On April 28 2016 05:43 gumshoe wrote: Lynching hts before gb seems rash. The effort and problem solving seems clear in her play.
Lynching her feels like an unnecessary mErasure when we still have as many mislynches as we do and far more suspicious targets (myself included in that bunch) I don't know how gb came to be town read so hard by so many, but dyh was insistent on clearing him and fedie, with fedie effectively confirmed as of right now, are we to assume that dyh extended himself to protect 2 townies?
It could have been a way of buddying/disassociation. I think people on this site are inclined to not look as hard at people who are townreading them, but that's just my opinion. Personally I'm more inclined to scumread someone either softpushing someone or not following through on a read, as opposed to townreading or scumreading them. Like look at the non-reads/deferral of read he had on sicklucker.
That's what I'm talking about.
Sometimes scum do hard defend someone to make it look like they are invested in the game, but I think the manner in which it's done isn't alignment indicative.
Didn't you tell me to lose the paranoia of looking into town reads from peeps after rik in nut?
On April 28 2016 05:45 Fidei86 wrote: Mafia kills are factional. So I cannot block them. I'm basically a nerfed medic (targets are RBed as well).
There could absolutely be another blue.
Oh bloody hell, so you are definitely not an inv in that sense. So you are straight up prot then.
2 invs does happen but it's extremely rare, because vig/dt can confirm the entire scumteam in 2 nights, and that is considered by most hosts here unbalanced.
And the way DT is listed in the role list I am assuming straight alignment and not a parity one. Parity takes two to confirm. Parity/vig/medic (more or less) is balanced, but disclaimer here, Artanis has done all sorts of shit with his setups so I don't really want to waste more time than I already have here.
I think if DT is straight alignment there's only two. I know BH says that DT in m13 is too town favoured, but w/e.
On April 28 2016 05:45 Fidei86 wrote: Mafia kills are factional. So I cannot block them. I'm basically a nerfed medic (targets are RBed as well).
There could absolutely be another blue.
Nope.
Idk I'm not terribly convinced by this claim, and it bugs me that Fidei suggests that another blue should wait to claim in LyLo when that's like the worst time to have a claim war.
Tictock, Fidei is rubbish at setup speculation, that I know from his gameplay in NSM18, so him not factoring in claim wars/claim analysis well here is not alignment indicative.
He's not the lynch regardless. Did you have thoughts on GB?
Tictock, Fidei is rubbish at setup speculation, that I know from his gameplay in NSM18, so him not factoring in claim wars/claim analysis well here is not alignment indicative.
He's not the lynch regardless. Did you have thoughts on GB?
I thought he looked pretty towny in that argument vs Gum.
Idk I'm kinda tempted to Yolo vote Shape, main reason why he seems to be town in my mind is because both of the other scum voted for him but that's pretty weak.
Then again GB giving up on his gum read and posting this doesn't inspire confidence in my TR on him
On April 28 2016 04:21 GlowingBear wrote: 29
I must say, although as weird as it sounds, that I'm starting to believe TT is the last Mafia.
Does anyone understand why?
I assume the why is because I've been pushing Fidei so hard who I guess has to be blue (I think everyone posted since his claim?)
Still reading, but I'm getting constantly interrupted, I might have to make my vote on mobile at this rate :/
On April 28 2016 05:38 Fidei86 wrote: FWIW, one of the reasons I've been nervous about HTS (and also sometimes not nervous) was that I am fairly sure at least someone on the scum team is familiar enough with my meta to know when something is different with me. I was SHOCKED to be roleblocked.
This is a fair point and explains your paranoia on me fine....but surely you must have realised that DYH played as town with you in Dark Tournament and he coached you in NSM18 when you were scum.
It's not as robust a familiarity as I would have had, but it's enough to sense you were playing low-profile, intentionally or not.
I've hosted enough games now that I've seen in mafia QTs how scum try and ferret out blues, they usually go for someone who they see playing low-profile in general.
Just saying.
With respect to the lynch I think it needs to be Tictock/Shape.
I have reasoning to feel that both gumshoe and GlowingBear, however haphazard/crazy/suboptimal/whatever word you want to use their town game has been, I think are both town.
Bah idk, on the one hand GB is a good lynch for suddenly going "Hey I think TT is scum, do you know why?" and I'd also be pretty happy to mess up his record as scum.
On the other hand I really can't say with and confidence that I believe Shape to be town.
...
So I guess I'll vote GB.
If you all lynch me we should still have plenty of time to work this out so no worries.
I must say, although as weird as it sounds, that I'm starting to believe TT is the last Mafia.
Does anyone understand why?
Why don't you tell us?
I think his reads are kinda disconnected. I remember him calling me town for pushing SL and I thought it was weird because I'd expect the opposite reaction but it didn't get my attention atm
But him making a huge case on fidei and not pushing it further, and not having a clear opinion on me and gumshoe... Makes me wonder
On April 28 2016 06:07 Tictock wrote: Bah idk, on the one hand GB is a good lynch for suddenly going "Hey I think TT is scum, do you know why?" and I'd also be pretty happy to mess up his record as scum.
On the other hand I really can't say with and confidence that I believe Shape to be town.
...
So I guess I'll vote GB.
If you all lynch me we should still have plenty of time to work this out so no worries.
All for me, I'm out till well after deadline.
You really shouldnt be todays lynch / :
shape is town clearly going by the day 1 lynch, the last second jump onto ff was crazy and totally unececairy for scum.
Why leap to get onto a mislynch?
Gb may look townie, but you all know he plays a good scum game.
The lynch should be between me and gb, me for my shady as fuck day and day 2 vote patterns and gb for all the stuff ive mentioned.
What has he done in the last two cycles besides defend himself? Trust me, that comes naturally to scum.
The more I think about it, the less I think that Shape's actions justify a total absolution. I'm playing DOTA at the minute to calm down from the claim, but I'll come back after.
On April 28 2016 06:07 Tictock wrote: Bah idk, on the one hand GB is a good lynch for suddenly going "Hey I think TT is scum, do you know why?" and I'd also be pretty happy to mess up his record as scum.
On the other hand I really can't say with and confidence that I believe Shape to be town.
...
So I guess I'll vote GB.
If you all lynch me we should still have plenty of time to work this out so no worries.
All for me, I'm out till well after deadline.
Rofl
You've called ME town the whole game and now that I called you Mafia you dropped your case on fidei and is gladly voting me
On April 28 2016 06:20 Koshi wrote: Shape. Why are you town this game? Can you tell me?
Because some dutch guy name artanis either use a program or a deck of cards to determine alignments, and I got the VT pulled once, thus explaining the reason, upon which I got a green pm in the inbox?
A course, I do not think this is what you meant.
Meh, as scum, my tone is this:
As town it is this:
Also, I prob. would of capsulize today based off the town reads I''ve gotten (which is kinda meh tbh IMO) to propel myself into a game winning situation.
EPT
