[M][Cap] Tortoise Mafia - Page 4

On April 26 2016 22:06 Half the Sky wrote:
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GB, can you also explain where you are getting this quote?



How are you using VCA to distinguish between Shape and Koshi versus gumshoe, Tictock and Fidei?



Look at how all the votes came in. Most if not all after DYH bailed from the thread. Why are you putting them in a separate category based on VCA?

How can you believe what you are saying there - if there was no need to bus and you are believing that no one on the DYH wagon bussed, your dropping your scumread against me makes no sense, your scumming of gumshoe makes even LESS sense.

I really believe you're just lurking the thread and trying to see what is sticking with the way this town is playing right now.

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I need to focus on work here on out....but I'll be back.

On April 27 2016 00:52 Tictock wrote:
Internet has been out at home so trying to skim and do stuff while. I have access at work. Hopefully things are fixed when I get home though.

I still think Fidei is probably mafia but it seems Koshi is the only one who sees what I see. Still not impressed with how he is pushing to lynch HtS with nothing more than a fear read though. I thought Koshi was more convincing in that one post about HtS than Fidei has been all game.

My PoE is pretty much Fidei and GB and given we have 2? Mislynches before LyLo I can't really be too concerned with the order thatwe lynch them in.

Besides with limited internet its gunna be hard to sway people regarding my read on Fidei past what I've already posted and. Koshi added.

On April 27 2016 02:16 gumshoe wrote:


1) you don't get to vote people just because they piss you off, remember when you were certain I was mafia in vanilla and I had to swear on my life to get you to back off? Isn't it kinda super fucking hypocritical of you to straight up lynch someone just because you can't see their side of things and don't want to bother understanding them? Your never gonna actually be good at this game if you cantlearn to look at things without overwhelming bias.

2) is this the first actual read you've offered in like days XD

3) yeah I acknowledged how terrible I look purely based off the votes so far. To be honest, though I joke, that actually makes me super fucking townie as if I was scum I could have easily not extended myself like that. You can't dodge traps your not aware of gb / :

On April 27 2016 02:21 gumshoe wrote:
Also I'm not contorting your words in any way, you said you'd sheep Damdred, you didn't, you said this was because Damdred town read sl but he did not, and I was also to put you within 20 minutes of Damdred voting sl as well(you know, when you said up to tell us how shitty the ff wagon was just like dyh without having said anything about ff before hand also like dyh)

Then you accosted Koshi for not voting me even though I was the clear wagon, implying you thought we were scum together, denied it, got proven wrong and yet continued to deny it saying I was twisting your words -_-

Your inability to see the validity of these points leads me to bilieve that you simply cannot do so, as that would effectively be a confession XD

I have nothing against you gb, but I don't think I'm wrong here.

On April 27 2016 02:58 gumshoe wrote:


I also cant be mad at you for being scum and simply deflecting my points XD thats exactly what I expect you to do.

But yeah, I wont accept "im pushing him cause hes a pain" as a viable answer given our history. You have no right to vote me purely out of annoyance, that should not even factor into any of your reads, let alone your read of me considering how many times I've had to town read you while you pushed me for asinine reasons.

If you vote me, you do it because you think im scum and you make a case accordingly that goes beyond "hes twisting my words" and I expect you to do this as ether town or scum.

also the concern was not your read of koshi, thats whateves, maybe you were wrong, the problem is you scum read koshi for not voting me.



you point this out as scummy, but you dont get to just do that gb, inconsistency must match agenda to prove scum.

The agenda here was clearly that koshi was avoiding voting me cause i was his scum mate. Which we know now to be bullshit, but was clearly what you were getting at the time.

then suddenly when I attacked you, you doubled the fuck back.



this uncertainty completley clashes with what you were getting at in terms of your prior reasons for pushing koshi on day 2 (ie he was reluctant to vote me)



I'm not misrepresenting you gb, your the one going back and editing your own actions / : if your town your memory and reading comprehension is painfully lacking, but lucky for both us thats not the case
methunks : P

On April 27 2016 03:04 gumshoe wrote:


scum only make themselves look inconsistent when they have an agenda gb -_- that and the fact that you were voting me as well CLEARLY fucking shows you were implying we were scum together. Also this



as for where you said that stuff about damdred.



day 1-

yesterdays explanation for sl read flying away


you posting within 20 min of damdred voting sl


(Ima get a bit sparkley with this one as im running out of versions)

On April 27 2016 03:16 gumshoe wrote:


you sir should get in mah pen.

I caught gb lying about 1) sheeping damdred 2) asociating me and koshi

also dyh defended the dude completley out of the blue is pretty big, interesting to note, dyh's only stake in yesterdays lynch was seeing gb not die, he didnt care who between koshi and me went down. Gb is the only reason he got involved.


( to me on koshi





(me on gb and fedie)

The dude didnt even have a read on gb before my case.



whats more, from when I attacked gb, to when the lynch happened (2 hour time period)his post count doubled overall,

something had him in a frenzy / : GB is the obvious cause peeps.

On April 27 2016 03:23 gumshoe wrote:


yeah i meant your sl read flew away (should probs answer that then )

I cant trust you on this afk point, as I have you in thread 20 min within damdred saying this.



you clearly thought ff was a bad lynch, so why did sl, one of your early reads never come up for the vote you were uncertain about?

obviusly whateves you say here I have to treat as a lie because you cant explain what youve done with an excuse, cause thats probally just a lie.

you said you would sheep damdred

you had a case on sl

you were in thread 20 min of damdred calling for a sl lynch

and you remarked how bad the eventual lynch was but voted ls instead(a read youve promptly discarded).

super duper wierd brah / :

On April 27 2016 03:31 gumshoe wrote:


Your not debunking them XD your saying "well x but could be y" and my response is "yeah but common sense and understanding of the game and minimal application of brain power makes x far more likely than y"

it's something townies do all the time, they assume that because there is a hole, the boat sinks, when in truth all theories and cases have holes that never get tried because theyre not threatening. The real skill is reconizing how debilitating those holes actually are (which in the case of my case they arent that bad at all)

Arguments that do get picked apart a ton are the ones you should pay heed too btw, because for whatever reason, theyre threatening. Dyh tried to take apart my argument against you, he was scum, no matter what you say that is a point of validity / : and you not seeing that is likely a product of necessity rather than sense.

On April 27 2016 03:34 gumshoe wrote:


also if you know anything about me you know I get tunneled as fuck once I have a bigger picture in place XD sometimes im wrong sometimes im right, usually its a bit of both. Honestly if you knew or remembered anything about me youd know its indicative of my town play : P

the bolded is kind of a lie. Thread sentiment is going in a million directions (fidei, tt, hts)

your not as persecuted as you think XD

On April 27 2016 03:41 GlowingBear wrote:


ROFL look at the time stamp where I've posted that the lynch was hitting town.

LMFAO dude. I don't even

On April 27 2016 03:41 gumshoe wrote:


yeah, cause you were town XD id didnt revaluate shit, i knew you were town all game and pushed it. I was certain gb, just as im certain now.

regardless of wether its poor play, its how I play. Its how I enjoy playing mafia as town and its how I want to win, and I dont think your such a pro that you have any right to judge how I choose to play : P

On April 27 2016 03:47 gumshoe wrote:


bro, theres no way we can know that you arrived then. Literally none. Youll just lie XD point is you showed up just in time to mock the lynch without having to do anything for it, kinda like dyh, this is not a point in your favour brah XD

(dyh one min of your post practically saying the exact same thing)


and you were there within 20 min, meaning you just as likely could have been there 30 min before and said nothing because what were you going to do, go down with your shitty scum mate? You were already voting a townie, what more could you do?