EPTOkay, so that's a dumb reason to TR someone, but it just makes me even keener to lynch outside of those three.
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Fidei86
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Okay, so that's a dumb reason to TR someone, but it just makes me even keener to lynch outside of those three. | ||
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On April 25 2016 07:29 LightningStrike wrote: If DYH flips town I going to be pissed but at least we got some decent info for this lynch. WELL THIS FILLS ME WITH FUCKING CONFIDENCE | ||
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![[image loading]](http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/5s.gif) Also Dani, I notice that you aren't including me and LS in your little list. Don't think I'm not on to you. | ||
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LightningStrike, Fidei86, Koshi, Shapelog, Tumble LS never mafia here. Started lynch on DYH out of nowhere. I'm obviously not mafia here, for being second onto it. Koshi hammered. Not mafia. Shape not mafia for piling on, and also for the voting on D1. Tumble for the claim. So that means its between GB, HTS, TT, gumshoe. I think we got this boyz. | ||
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And also, I am basically universally townread (or at least, nobody seems to have me on their scum list apart from TT). In what universe do I as mafia enter the thread, call the two leading wagons (gum / Koshi) bad, then REFUSE to get onto the GB wagon WHEN IT WAS LEADING BY MILES and bus the GF. ARE YOU ACTUALLY F'ING SERIOUS WITH ME RIGHT NOW. The only reason you're IN ANY WAY thinking it could be be is to keep the lynch pool wider than it might be. Which I guess is a good reason not to move you off the top of my lynch list  | ||
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Firstly, TT. If you think I am mafia, you have to believe that: 1. I came into the thread seeing wagons on two townies (gum and Koshi), and then refused to get on either, when there were PLENTY of reasons I could have adopted. Gum had basically asked to be lynched. GB made a ton of posts against Koshi. Instead, I used reasoning that you yourself used later (why would scum thread enter and call other leading wagon bad?) to say I didn't want on either wagon. 2. Then, having thrown plenty of shade on GB in the past, I also didn't get on that wagon either. At one point it had three votes. A fourth would have likely been enough to secure the vote. 3. With only LS, who with all due respect to him, has very little thread pull, on DYH, I get on the wagon, with plenty of other townies (eg HTS) having been skeptical of DYH (making the risk of an accidental wagon pretty high). I would also have known that all three other wagons were town, with townies looking for another wagon to keep themselves alive. 4. I get onto DYH despite him being the GODFATHER, which would leave me at the mercy of a possible redcheck end game. Unless you think Artanis included a godfather but no cop .... Which could happen. He is Dutch after all. Yes, at the end I wanted to consolidate. Maybe if you'd been here the whole time you would have noted that at one point our vote was 3,2,2,2. That is horrible for town. We had to consolidate, and everyone else seemed pretty set on their votes - hell GB and DYH had announced they'd gone AFK. I wasn't sure on the DYH lynch, nobody really was. Not even LS. Fuck, if I WAS bussing wouldn't I have begged everyone to get onto the wagon? There is literally no way I am Mafia in this game. Not with a probable cop out there. I don't want to rub it in, but if you are town you should feel bad for even thinking it. Town have got two mislynches to play with. The good thing is that there are only four realistic candidates. -------- TOWN CIRCLE LS is never Mafia in this game. He pushed the DYH lynch first, when it was in no way necessary. Nobody really wanted this lynch and it would NOT have happened if he hadn't voted for it. A bus just makes much too little sense, especially for someone like LS who I feel would prioritise the team. Tumble has claimed vig when a Mafia was shot, with no CC and convincing breadcrumbing. He is basically confirmed town. Koshi hammered DYH and he didn't have to. He has to go to the bottom of the pile, and is most likely town. Also, if he's scum I don't understand why he didn't just waive through the gum lynch. That was a thing he could have done. I see no world in which Shape is Mafia. His voting EOD1 is totally at odds with a sensible Mafia strategy. He's worth reading again, but he'a very likely town. I'm like town Jesus. MAFIA There are four people outside the town circle. HTS, TT, gumshoe and GB. I don't think VCA helps much here. Getting on the wagon late or not at all says very little. In my view town should lynch in the following order: HTS -- TT -- GB -- gumshoe. Dani is a really good Mafia player. In games I've played with her has town, she has crushed it. In this game, she hasn't been right about anything. At EOD2 she kept saying she was considering DYH, but at the same time she ended up on GB - someone she didn't really ever develop a read on. Also for someone who has posted a lot of VCA, and who was here at EOD, it's bizarre she had me as a higher likelihood of Mafia over TT. There might be reasons why she's playing not so well this game. But my view is that the most likely reason is that she's Mafia. TT - I've not been impressed or unimpressed. He's made some okay points, but he's made some pretty critical fuck ups (leaving SL off his list of inactives was pretty damning). Also doing a super long filter dive of ME, when each of GB, gum and HTS are THOROUGHLY indicted by an objective view of EOD2 is bizarre. Like, that time could have been used to try and figure out which of the people who could actually be scum in this game are. Instead it just looks like scum trying to keep the lynch pool wider than it should be. GB - I really got the sense towards EOD2 that Gb was a bad lynch. I've seen him mislynched a ton, and the best I can say is that I've seen him lynched as Mafia once and he fake claimed. I think he does the same thing here as Mafia. Probably. But he needs a re-read as well. Gumshoe - don't ask town to kill you plz, if you are town. But I'm happy enough with my reasoning that scum gumshoe doesn't thread enter and call the Koshi mislynch wagon dumpster and try and get a third wagon going on another townie. Given that at least one townie (one of HTS/TT) is scumming me a little bit, I probably won't be the target this evening. But if I do die, lynch HTS--TT--GB in that order. If we have a cop, you should check into those as well. Don't over complicate it people. Peace. Shout out to my boy Rels in the obs thread. | ||
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If you do not understand that we lynched scum out of nowhere yesterday and that that confirms the people who made that happen (me, LS, most likely you), I cannot explain it. I shouldn't have to explain it. | ||
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On April 26 2016 16:37 Koshi wrote: You didn't lynch shit. You sat on your mafia buddy and yelled at town to lynch anybody but your buddy. And mafia needed to get some cred so sitting on buddy while yelling town should lynch somebody else is actually a really logical play for mafia to make. But w.e Let's say we ignore the fact you sat on mafia and yelled to lynch town. WHAT HAVE YOU DONE THIS GAME? You have the worst filter out of everybody. Show me somewhere you tried to actually remove people from your lynchlist by using actual ingame based reasoning and then sticked to it the next time you gave a list post. Show me that. And stop yelling "I lynched mafia so I am town" because I don't give a single fuck about it and I will get you lynched. Sure Mafia need town cred now. I don't see why I as Mafia with DYH would have needed town cred, when we just could have easily mislynched any of you, gum and GB. I'm not going to defend my filter because I freely admit that I haven't played amazingly this game. I've struggled to form reads and most of my thoughts have been pretty random. But all I can say to that is that nobody apart from Tumble was really on SL, and nobody apart from LS (and then me and you) was on DYH. Long filter dive posts don't make you right. Gut reactions based on how the game developments don't make you wrong. | ||
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That is not telling people to lynch town. That is telling people to consolidate to stop Mafia being able to manipulate the vote. You're like the anally retentive general who cares more about whether their soldiers have polished their belt buckles than whether they can aim a f***ing rifle. Okay, last post from me on this. I've wasted enough. I don't think you're Mafia. You've made your position on me quite clear. But can you please also read GB/TT/HTS again, just to humour me if nothing else. | ||
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On April 27 2016 00:52 Tictock wrote: Internet has been out at home so trying to skim and do stuff while. I have access at work. Hopefully things are fixed when I get home though. I still think Fidei is probably mafia but it seems Koshi is the only one who sees what I see. Still not impressed with how he is pushing to lynch HtS with nothing more than a fear read though. I thought Koshi was more convincing in that one post about HtS than Fidei has been all game. My PoE is pretty much Fidei and GB and given we have 2? Mislynches before LyLo I can't really be too concerned with the order thatwe lynch them in. Besides with limited internet its gunna be hard to sway people regarding my read on Fidei past what I've already posted and. Koshi added. TT do you see any way that it is HTS or gumshoe? I literally cannot understand why you and HTS continue to hard TR each other despite both of you being implicated by the EOD2 VCA. Maybe Artanis included Masons and didn't put it in the opening post?? | ||
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... Lol. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. I am heading home soon and I will post my thoughts on HTS / GB / Gumshoe / TT this evening. | ||
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