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Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 17 2016 08:52 GMT
#25
/in

Looking forward to lynching HTS for realz.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 19 2016 14:45 GMT
#61
On April 19 2016 22:42 Half the Sky wrote:
I have little tolerance for spam, but Fidei is even less tolerant of it than I am. Tread carefully is all I'll say.

In the last newbie game I played, I did a fair bit of spam. But that was mostly because nobody else was posting anything else.

Also, pre-game excuse, I now have a streak of not having been lynched in seven straight games as town. In fact, I've never been lynched in any game, but that doesn't count because I got carried by Rels and Alex/Mage in my two scum games.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 19 2016 16:58 GMT
#63
Okay maybe it's more like pre-game TRASH TALK.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 19 2016 17:44 GMT
#66
Scott noooooooo
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 20 2016 19:04 GMT
#152
1/40
Yay, another game without a 'confirm' window. Is this a thing now? Anyway, was busy at work this afternoon and am then planning to go for a swim when I get back, but I'll be on later. If you all could work out who the Mafia are me before then, that'd be great.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 20 2016 20:14 GMT
#159
2/40

@TT do you 'kind of' agree with it or do you actually agree wh it. My opening wasn't long and FF's point wasn't complicated. Not sure I see much middle ground. It seems kind of a lame agreement-but-not-really from you. But I shall read the rest of your posts / the game before deciding for sure.

I got to p7 before my swim. But all I really noticed was LS was making points. So I should re-read from the start. Which I will.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 20 2016 20:54 GMT
#165
On April 21 2016 05:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
are we still mad at me koshi? What do you think of LS?


Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 05:14 Fidei86 wrote:
2/40

@TT do you 'kind of' agree with it or do you actually agree wh it. My opening wasn't long and FF's point wasn't complicated. Not sure I see much middle ground. It seems kind of a lame agreement-but-not-really from you. But I shall read the rest of your posts / the game before deciding for sure.

I got to p7 before my swim. But all I really noticed was LS was making points. So I should re-read from the start. Which I will.

Have you done the reading, Fiddy?

No I was eating dinner. I've sat down now and got my notepad out and everything.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 20 2016 21:15 GMT
#169
On April 21 2016 00:50 Half the Sky wrote:
6/40

Shapelog, I'll rephrase the question.

Tumbleweed, on the basis you townread LS (and I argued why it was poor), why couldn't that same critieria also come from mafia?

That is mainly what I was trying to get at. I feel the bases for all his reads are pretty weak and I just don't know if that's his style (which you are contending) or whether he's actually mafia, the posts seem scummy to me.

Also regarding post 134, the inset is part of the reason I scumread LS, double standard. Also just because I vote someone doesn't mean it's final. If I have reason to second guess my thinking or I find a better lynch I can always unvote.

[5/40]
HTS, when was the last time you played with LS? Because the concerning thing for me in this game is that he is actually giving reads with some explanation. In the last two games I played with him as town, that NEVER happened.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 20 2016 21:24 GMT
#172
On April 21 2016 05:09 Tictock wrote:
Right now I wouldn't be opposed to lynching any of these people for varying reasons.

4. Shapelog
6. Fidei86
7. DoYouHas
8. Tumblewood
9. GlowingBear
11. LightningStrike

So whoever is town in this list if you could pick it up a little...
[image loading]


The reason why I really really don't like this post is that it seems to be something of a "here is who isn't saying much" list, except that it doesn't include SL, who has said one thing so far? (Maybe two?)

Unless there are good reasons for all these names that aren't to do with inactivity, and which will be explained later I guess.

[6/40]
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 20 2016 21:54 GMT
#183
[7/40]

So I read the entire thread and genuinely, almost nothing stuck out to me (other than the things I commented on as I was going through.) Yes, I know, that's super unhelpful and super scummy. I might take a quick break and then re-read it.

Since Koshi asked, I thought I'd take a look at gumshoe's filter to try and get myself going. The whole vote-retract on Damdred was bizarre. Damdred's posts were obviously not meant to be taken seriously. Damdred and HTS know each other, and they shit talk each other early on. But to make a case and then retract it when it receives the most cursory of push-back FROM DAMDRED suggests he just didn't believe it at all. His point on HTS was basically "she writes clearly" -- she always does that. His point on LS was confusing (scum don't try and get better in their games?). And his last two posts actually say nothing of substance, and seem to be written only with a view towards revving up Koshi.

I could vote gumshoe at this stage. I'm getting the scum-feels from TT as well. And I am very suspicious of LS for actually playing the game (I've played with this man as town a number of times, and I've seen more thought put into his last few posts than I've seen pretty much before that point).

I don't want to vote HTS this early. My reasoning is that (1) she's a good town player, I'd much rather D1 someone who isn't trying to contribute (2) she's always dispassionate (3) as scum she tends to ask more pointless questions and diverge from the sentiment of the thread. Here, she is making reasonable points that were on point as well.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 21 2016 13:28 GMT
#220
[8/40]

Sorry for my inactivity guys. RL excuses. I have some time now for a little while, but chances are I won't be around at EOD / or at least I'll get home just around then.

@LS are you really saying that the only reason you're scum reading HTS is because she's pushing you and because you consider yourself an easy target? What about the other people who are pushing you (Koshi, for example)?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 21 2016 13:37 GMT
#221
[9/40]

One person I thought it was worth looking into a bit more is GB.

GB's case (if you can call it that) against SL is that SL called out Damdred for 'wasting posts'. His reasoning is okay, but it just feels like trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. I haven't played with SL, but I get the sense he often says/does stupid shit. In the same way, I'm not going to pick apart one thing LS says on day 1 and dissect it to the nth degree. I know he says stuff that sometimes doesn't make sense - he does it as both alignments.

The rest of his posts don't even seem to have a point. He says he has weak townreads on Damdred and DYH, but that's only vaguely interesting because he sort of defended Damdred earlier.

He said he doesn't have time to play (and I know I've been kind of AFK), but I could definitely vote GB here.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 21 2016 13:42 GMT
#223
[10/40]

@HTS I was a bit concerned to see you town read me for standard town meta. As far as I can see, my usual town meta is big long list post on D1 followed up with lots of messages IN ALL CAPS. In our last game where I was scum you were like "oh it's pretty suspicious that he isn't talking very much" - and in this game I've been pretty quiet.

If there's one person in the game I'd trust to soul read me, it's you. But I'm suspicious that you just basically echoed Koshi's read on me without even putting any real gloss on it.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 21 2016 13:48 GMT
#226
On April 21 2016 22:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 22:28 Fidei86 wrote:
[8/40]

Sorry for my inactivity guys. RL excuses. I have some time now for a little while, but chances are I won't be around at EOD / or at least I'll get home just around then.

@LS are you really saying that the only reason you're scum reading HTS is because she's pushing you and because you consider yourself an easy target? What about the other people who are pushing you (Koshi, for example)?

Koshi isn't really pushing me as hard as HTS, HTS knows I a easy target to pick on if she's scum(which I think she is) she also didn't really give much of a read on FF when she defended him vs Koshi(I don't think she really gave a read still to this point unless I missing it).


[11/40]

Buddy, I'm starting to think that the universe is playing a cruel joke on me. Every game we play together we're both town (pretty much). Every game I am utterly convinced that you are scum, and you never are.

But this is so bad. I have argued in previous games that people were pushing you questionably because you are an easy lynch. But in this game you've actually made points and arguments and generally playing a lot better than you have before. Nobody else (other than me) has accused you of being an easy lynch. And HTS' read on FF? Yeah, Koshi's point was fine. HTS elaborated a lot on a null read. But lots of people don't have reads on lots of people. Fuck, I barely have reads on anyone (and I'm town), but you haven't called me out on it.

Are you saying there's an association between FF and HTS?

The thing is, I don't think you're dumb enough as mafia to get into a shitfight with HTS this early on. You *know* she's probably a top 5 player on the site, and she always catches you. Unless you're being smart and trying to throw her radar off by going on the offensive.

Ugh.

Can people start saying who they plan to vote for? Right now I could lynch SL (inactivity), gumshoe or GB. I don't have the town feels about anyone in particular, but I can't see myself voting for either Koshi or HTS, if only because they've been active and coherent, and voting particularly active people off when my reads are as weak as they are seems dumb.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 21 2016 13:50 GMT
#227
[12/40]

I'm going to read TT's filter again now though.

@Dani - answer my questioning of you!
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 21 2016 14:01 GMT
#231
[13/40]

Does anyone else get the sense that TT really doesn't believe his push on Tumble? I mean, it's not like Tumble has said anything particularly egregious. The whole thing made me feel like TT wanted to find a target and so just pulled things out of every post Tumble made and span them negatively.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 21 2016 17:17 GMT
#250
[14/40]

That awkward feeling when the two most town read people in the game are you and Koshi ...

Seriously, people are TRing me for bad reasons left right and centre. Dani's explanation was basically "I don't use OGI in giving reads". TT didn't even give one. Shape's was "Lol he was scum last time".

Only Koshi's felt genuine.

On D1 I usually use an activity proxy pretty heavily for my vote, or at least for my initial votes (will consolidate if needed, obviously), and I'm still on gumshoe / GB. I'm only going easy on TT because I understand he has a bit of burn-out - previously he was definitely a tier 1 player.

My town circle right now is basically myself. I'm concerned.

I have only skimmed the last few pages. I have a client dinner this evening which could either finish early or blast past the deadline. I'm placing my vote on gumshoe in case my phone dies and I end up having to stay out till 3am.

##vote: gumshoe
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 22 2016 00:19 GMT
#419
am walking home drunk. Sorry I wasn't on for EOD I wanted to be.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 22 2016 00:29 GMT
#420
On April 22 2016 07:27 Damdred wrote:
And Tt doesn't want to consolidate anywhere just waste his vote so anti town

This
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 22 2016 00:30 GMT
#421
On April 22 2016 07:37 gumshoe wrote:
Welp that sucks.


Can we give this guy a fucking medal for least convincing flip contrition? Jesus
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