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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 20 2016 22:37 GMT
#201
11/40

On April 21 2016 07:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:
It irks me the wrong way because you did not comment on the post from HTS that I found extremely townie. And even though you know I really liked that post and am willing to townread her.

You still scumread her without hesitation and use my name to legitimize your scumread on HTS. Which is really odd to do.

She can put up effort as scum even when she was sick in Void mafia and in Newbie LX. I seen her do that kind of stuff as scum so that why I didn't comment on it. I also trying to trust my reads more than other people's regarding my scumreads so seeing people thinking the same way makes me more confident about my read. Like talk to Tina and Lex after this game or hell check post game of Newbie Student XX about me needing to trust my reads more.


There's effort and quality of effort. I'll bring up LX since you are, and you should remember it well as I got you mislynched. That game, I had an agenda, I was squarely on you and Binks, the mislynches we needed to win the game. I ignored my scumbuddies, especially my roleblocker. Here, I'm not leaving any stone unturned, and I believe this is why Koshi saw townieness in that post (presumably) at least bringing attention to those under the radar.

Here's another question for you LS - let's say I lose the plot tonight and get modkilled. I will flip town.
Whom would you vote for then? I asked you about your only other scumread Tictock, and now you are townreading him (190).

So I flip town, where do you go from here?

(Damdred, same question for you since I'm your most likely vote, please.)
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
April 20 2016 22:42 GMT
#202
On April 21 2016 07:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:
It irks me the wrong way because you did not comment on the post from HTS that I found extremely townie. And even though you know I really liked that post and am willing to townread her.

You still scumread her without hesitation and use my name to legitimize your scumread on HTS. Which is really odd to do.

She can put up effort as scum even when she was sick in Void mafia and in Newbie LX. I seen her do that kind of stuff as scum so that why I didn't comment on it. I also trying to trust my reads more than other people's regarding my scumreads so seeing people thinking the same way makes me more confident about my read. Like talk to Tina and Lex after this game or hell check post game of Newbie Student XX about me needing to trust my reads more.

The bolded comes over like a story you just made up to narrate my suspicion on you. I can understand why you meta wise still scumread HTS after she made that post, but I don't understand why you don't tell me that HTS could still be mafia after I made it clear I townread her for it.

And the fact you made the post about HTS being mafia was triggered by FF saying you discredit a lot of people and are not looking for mafia. And you scumreading HTS still doesn't explain why you used my name to legitimize your scumread on HTS. It also feel like you kinda spewed both Damdred and Koshi town by saying. "I had the same read as Koshi and Damdred, so fuck off" Which is not exactly what you said but it felt like that.


I am also somewhat puzzled by the fact you are not trying to save your posts. You are just blatantly spamming and I don't think that is very townie of you. You must understand that your posts become more valuable the closer to the deadline.



Anyway LS, I will probably follow Damdred his read on you. Please try to keep good track of your posts and don't let me baffle you too much.

Also, if you really believe HTS is mafia. Make sure you have good long and solid posts left near deadline on why she is mafia. Because we will need solid posts to lynch her.


I just read HTS her posts and she brings up a really good point that I also wanted to bring up but didn't. You close your eyes to the quality of that post.
I had a good night of sleep.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 20 2016 22:43 GMT
#203
12/40

On April 21 2016 07:37 Shapelog wrote:
gumshoe called me a cunt :/ A little one at that

Anyways, I've done my rounds in my other game. I skimmed tbh to this point right now (about to cook/eat dinner) and this is just some things I noted.

* LS has fucking used almost 25 posts. And roughly about the time I wrote this statement, it is 24 hours in. I wouldn't usually mind LS spam, but he is chewing through them like hot cakes. like for him to try to condense it down.

*GB has posted about SL. And that is still it. I want him to expand a little bit. He also seems to ignore Tumble/someone's post responding about if SL was serious or not. I feel like with the focus he is giving to SL, he should of responded to those (at least IMO)

YH and SL are silent

Other than that, nothing strikes me off the bat. After Dinner I look at things more closely.

[10? idk, I just say 10]


I was going to make a post about you possibly being scum and then I lost it in all the tabs I have open here - I'm reading your filter and you don't have concrete reads on ANYONE. I mean you investigated Tictock and you deferred on Tumble, but some of the others? I would have expected you by at least post 135 to have at LEAST scumread me based on my interactions with you, but you didn't even do that, Koshi's first scumread on me came about an hour after you hedged (yes I checked timestamps).

You've made these observations but I don't feel they are adding anything of value to the discussion alignment wise. I've also been the elephant in the room, so to speak....and you've said jack all on me.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 20 2016 23:04 GMT
#204
On April 21 2016 07:43 Half the Sky wrote:
12/40

Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 07:37 Shapelog wrote:
gumshoe called me a cunt :/ A little one at that

Anyways, I've done my rounds in my other game. I skimmed tbh to this point right now (about to cook/eat dinner) and this is just some things I noted.

* LS has fucking used almost 25 posts. And roughly about the time I wrote this statement, it is 24 hours in. I wouldn't usually mind LS spam, but he is chewing through them like hot cakes. like for him to try to condense it down.

*GB has posted about SL. And that is still it. I want him to expand a little bit. He also seems to ignore Tumble/someone's post responding about if SL was serious or not. I feel like with the focus he is giving to SL, he should of responded to those (at least IMO)

YH and SL are silent

Other than that, nothing strikes me off the bat. After Dinner I look at things more closely.

[10? idk, I just say 10]


I was going to make a post about you possibly being scum and then I lost it in all the tabs I have open here - I'm reading your filter and you don't have concrete reads on ANYONE. I mean you investigated Tictock and you deferred on Tumble, but some of the others? I would have expected you by at least post 135 to have at LEAST scumread me based on my interactions with you, but you didn't even do that, Koshi's first scumread on me came about an hour after you hedged (yes I checked timestamps).

You've made these observations but I don't feel they are adding anything of value to the discussion alignment wise. I've also been the elephant in the room, so to speak....and you've said jack all on me.


It because I don't really have a solid read so far (mainly because I am noticing when I play town, most of my reads are impersonaive and flip flopy if I do not have a list of sorts.) Maybe Koshi, (town) but that is about it. I have scumleans/sus. and vis veria, but that is about it.

I had sus. on you (due to the contradiction) at the time of the post. I also had 1 min from the time you posted it to get the fuck out of the computer lab at my college so I wouldn't be late for class. So, I posted why I was sus. of you (I.E. the contradiction) and would follow up later. There also was a * I left off as well, because I need to look back more closely that directly related to you. It was about how quickly/ok the thread felt was that you were getting lynch, which made me think you are town (I called it a little spike or something)
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 20 2016 23:04 GMT
#205
On April 21 2016 02:37 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 01:48 Koshi wrote:
Pure on guts I am inclined to believe LS over HTS. Rereading HTS her posts I somehow can see it coming from scum because it is pretty emotionless and at points over explained.

I also have a feeling that she can't or won't commit on a read on FF and hides after a lot of words and "lazy meta can go both ways"


I am also thinking I like Tumble his last post. That actually sounds like townie reasoning.


So I actually am more inclined to lynch HtS over FF atm but I am going to stick on FF.


I could comment on more things I think but I don't want to be the driving force behind any conversation.

Like this post but mostly because it affirms what I was already saying. Why don't you want to be the driving force behind conversation?
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 02:11 GlowingBear wrote:
4
Ok since SL never answered me, I must say I don't like his posts

He has an opening calling Damdred "null" (the only thing I can understabd from bolding a name) because damdred was wasting posts. This is bad because:

1) It is impossible to have contentful posts in the beginning of the game
2) Calling someone null is saying something someone did is not alignment indicative, which means (I) he is wasting a post because he is saying nothing contributive, and (ii) he is trying to look contributive while saying nothing at all.

Wanting to lynch LS in the beginning of the game for wasting posts just reinforces this perspective

Also like this post, GB gets to be a townlean for now. Solid, original insight.



Sorry, people don't simply bold to vote. They put double hashtags.
I didn't see that post from SL.

Yes I have some weak townreads on Damdred and DYH. I was writing a post on it but I'll do it later in a big catch-up post. I am currently busy. Wednesdays aren't really the best days to play mafia
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 20 2016 23:08 GMT
#206
6

Oops, wrong quotation. It was supposed to be the post where HTS is putting a finger of suspicion on me.

Shapelog also said something about ignoring Tumblewood. I ignored because I simply don't trust he can possibly know what SL was thinking. It is simple as that.
I'm adorable.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 20 2016 23:27 GMT
#207
On April 21 2016 08:08 GlowingBear wrote:
6

Oops, wrong quotation. It was supposed to be the post where HTS is putting a finger of suspicion on me.

Shapelog also said something about ignoring Tumblewood. I ignored because I simply don't trust he can possibly know what SL was thinking. It is simple as that.

What? "Shape said something about ignoring tumblewood, I ignored b/c he can't know what SL was thinking?"
I don't understand GB...

I said that it's easier for me to read Tumble as the game progresses. Idk where SL comes in here.


Slightly sus. after a dive on damdred. Mostly for a small contradiction lol.
On April 20 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote:
It's not easy ring posts if I am putting reads into the game or was entering the game.

While it's true that scum like wasting posts so they do not have to post later in the phase I am probably doing half in the first then do 10 and saving 15 near eod. A post restrictive game doesn't have to be a dead game.

SL is obviously null

Town on gumshoe and on dyh (tentative on both for halfway meh reasons)

LS is sort of in the bottom half of null bordering on a scum lean. He entered the game bringing nothing new but rehashed something someone else said and making it look worse than it was. He could be scum.

On April 21 2016 07:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
LS you're using so many posts just trying to discredit what people say about you rather than trying to find scum.

On April 21 2016 07:06 Damdred wrote:
And this is different than every other game how?

Anyway I'm going to hedge on hts now until tommorow.

It is bothering me sl is getting so little attention especially with his lack of try hard as s um lately.

I don't understand the process of: "Scum likes wasting posts" -> "Ls, your overusing posts [...] (FF)" -> "this is different than every other game how?" Kinda nickpicky though I admit.


Also, I will be back (posting wise) later tonight.

[11 prob.]
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 20 2016 23:30 GMT
#208
13/40

Going through more filters - here are some more interesting observations

On April 21 2016 05:09 Tictock wrote:
Right now I wouldn't be opposed to lynching any of these people for varying reasons.

4. Shapelog
6. Fidei86
7. DoYouHas
8. Tumblewood
9. GlowingBear
11. LightningStrike


Why was sicklucker left off this list?




Also I looked into Damdred...

I was getting leery of Damdred for a bit given his position on me, and his reaction given the way LS was already responding to pressure in the context of the conversation (note FF's post quoted by Damdred, the same one others have commented on)

Additionally, he was still willing to lynch me over LS at the time Koshi changed votes (nb: Koshi, your vote isn't in the vote thread, but I digress) - see page 10. So that is a bit curious.

On April 21 2016 06:24 Damdred wrote:

[...]

As for ls I had a scum read in one of my posts about his opening and him rehashing earlier posts.

Now I think he's been ok, he's been helpful and has tried to eliminate people based off meta. I'm not 100% it makes him lock town but it's enough to give him time see how he handles lynch without pressure on him and what he does with his time.


On April 21 2016 07:06 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 07:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
LS you're using so many posts just trying to discredit what people say about you rather than trying to find scum.


And this is different than every other game how?

Anyway I'm going to hedge on hts now until tommorow.


It is bothering me sl is getting so little attention especially with his lack of try hard as s um lately.


...but then I saw this post by Damdred which I actually thought was pretty damn good.

On April 21 2016 06:04 Damdred wrote:
TT why do you ignore everything posted on hts which isn't bad even if it's in early stages, only look at tumble to scum read but ignore ff who you were unhappy with his answer to you but didn't put him in your lynch list when he semi dodged you?


And looking at Tumbleweed's filter, the last three posts he was scumread for? The final two in post where he voted Tumbleweed was correcting himself. The point was very valid one to make on GB.

So I'm actually conflicted on Damdred here - Koshi given your input on LS, I'm curious to hear your viewpoint on Damdred since his behaviour parallels LS's in this fashion (again, read bottom of page 9 through 10 where you change your vote).

But I'd also now like to see updated reads from Tictock. Leaving sicklucker off is quite interesting...




So here's where I stand:

Will lynch
LightningStrike (voting currently)

Needs justification/updated reads - most likely at least one scum in here:
sicklucker
Shapelog
Tictock
DYH
GlowingBear

Seemed okay to me prior to leaving - updated reads would help
gumshoe

Tinfoil mafia (see above breakdown for why, or read pages 9 and 10)
Damdred

Townlean
Tumbleweed - could be copying town meta as scum, but was fine with his latest point on GB. Last post was 5h ago though but updated reads will help.

Town
Fecalfeast - points on Fidei/LS
Koshi - led the push on me and then reconsidered his read on LS
Fidei - points as pointed out by Koshi, town meta also recognisable to me

I'm stopping here, since I'm knackered.

Good night.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 21 2016 00:22 GMT
#209
On April 21 2016 08:27 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 08:08 GlowingBear wrote:
6

Oops, wrong quotation. It was supposed to be the post where HTS is putting a finger of suspicion on me.

Shapelog also said something about ignoring Tumblewood. I ignored because I simply don't trust he can possibly know what SL was thinking. It is simple as that.

What? "Shape said something about ignoring tumblewood, I ignored b/c he can't know what SL was thinking?"
I don't understand GB...

I said that it's easier for me to read Tumble as the game progresses. Idk where SL comes in here.


Slightly sus. after a dive on damdred. Mostly for a small contradiction lol.
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote:
It's not easy ring posts if I am putting reads into the game or was entering the game.

While it's true that scum like wasting posts so they do not have to post later in the phase I am probably doing half in the first then do 10 and saving 15 near eod. A post restrictive game doesn't have to be a dead game.

SL is obviously null

Town on gumshoe and on dyh (tentative on both for halfway meh reasons)

LS is sort of in the bottom half of null bordering on a scum lean. He entered the game bringing nothing new but rehashed something someone else said and making it look worse than it was. He could be scum.

Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 07:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
LS you're using so many posts just trying to discredit what people say about you rather than trying to find scum.

Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 07:06 Damdred wrote:
And this is different than every other game how?

Anyway I'm going to hedge on hts now until tommorow.

It is bothering me sl is getting so little attention especially with his lack of try hard as s um lately.

I don't understand the process of: "Scum likes wasting posts" -> "Ls, your overusing posts [...] (FF)" -> "this is different than every other game how?" Kinda nickpicky though I admit.


Also, I will be back (posting wise) later tonight.

[11 prob.]


7

I am probably mistaking posts, I have to play when I have time only l
I'm adorable.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 21 2016 00:30 GMT
#210
Dont want to lynch Ls hes so cute and trying hard
Ticktock is looking really strong
I do want to lynch koshi but hes probably town. Not sure I can do another koshi game
Gum probably town from what I know about him
FF was not even in the top 3 people for wasting posts early so im not sure why hes being attacked.
Hts seems over defensive but maybe thats just the koshi factor
wish I could read shapelogs posts but luckily he does not have one
I want to lynch gb a lil for this posts
4
Ok since SL never answered me, I must say I don't like his posts

He has an opening calling Damdred "null" (the only thing I can understabd from bolding a name) because damdred was wasting posts. This is bad because:

1) It is impossible to have contentful posts in the beginning of the game
2) Calling someone null is saying something someone did is not alignment indicative, which means (I) he is wasting a post because he is saying nothing contributive, and (ii) he is trying to look contributive while saying nothing at all.

Wanting to lynch LS in the beginning of the game for wasting posts just reinforces this perspective

He clearly missed the many posts by me and my comrades that my post ment nothing.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 21 2016 00:31 GMT
#211
Gb do you or do you not just always push me everytime you get a red pm in the inbox?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 21 2016 02:33 GMT
#212
Home now with 11 posts left after this post before getting 5 EoD:
On April 21 2016 07:37 Half the Sky wrote:
11/40

Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 07:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 21 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:
It irks me the wrong way because you did not comment on the post from HTS that I found extremely townie. And even though you know I really liked that post and am willing to townread her.

You still scumread her without hesitation and use my name to legitimize your scumread on HTS. Which is really odd to do.

She can put up effort as scum even when she was sick in Void mafia and in Newbie LX. I seen her do that kind of stuff as scum so that why I didn't comment on it. I also trying to trust my reads more than other people's regarding my scumreads so seeing people thinking the same way makes me more confident about my read. Like talk to Tina and Lex after this game or hell check post game of Newbie Student XX about me needing to trust my reads more.


There's effort and quality of effort. I'll bring up LX since you are, and you should remember it well as I got you mislynched. That game, I had an agenda, I was squarely on you and Binks, the mislynches we needed to win the game. I ignored my scumbuddies, especially my roleblocker. Here, I'm not leaving any stone unturned, and I believe this is why Koshi saw townieness in that post (presumably) at least bringing attention to those under the radar.

Here's another question for you LS - let's say I lose the plot tonight and get modkilled. I will flip town.
Whom would you vote for then? I asked you about your only other scumread Tictock, and now you are townreading him (190).

So I flip town, where do you go from here?

(Damdred, same question for you since I'm your most likely vote, please.)


Yes that why I mentions Newbie LX. You did put a read to celestial here:
On January 06 2015 00:48 Half the Sky wrote:
Thought I said it in the post before my reads...Celestial is reading town to me although based on meta, I feel he is off target on Rasputin.

If you flip town I will case the case the host under the guidance that he gave you the wrong role pm.+ Show Spoiler +
Joking ofc but if I wrong on you idk honestly will recheck filters tomorrow closer to lynch time

On April 21 2016 07:42 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 07:24 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 21 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:
It irks me the wrong way because you did not comment on the post from HTS that I found extremely townie. And even though you know I really liked that post and am willing to townread her.

You still scumread her without hesitation and use my name to legitimize your scumread on HTS. Which is really odd to do.

She can put up effort as scum even when she was sick in Void mafia and in Newbie LX. I seen her do that kind of stuff as scum so that why I didn't comment on it. I also trying to trust my reads more than other people's regarding my scumreads so seeing people thinking the same way makes me more confident about my read. Like talk to Tina and Lex after this game or hell check post game of Newbie Student XX about me needing to trust my reads more.

The bolded comes over like a story you just made up to narrate my suspicion on you. I can understand why you meta wise still scumread HTS after she made that post, but I don't understand why you don't tell me that HTS could still be mafia after I made it clear I townread her for it.

And the fact you made the post about HTS being mafia was triggered by FF saying you discredit a lot of people and are not looking for mafia. And you scumreading HTS still doesn't explain why you used my name to legitimize your scumread on HTS. It also feel like you kinda spewed both Damdred and Koshi town by saying. "I had the same read as Koshi and Damdred, so fuck off" Which is not exactly what you said but it felt like that.


I am also somewhat puzzled by the fact you are not trying to save your posts. You are just blatantly spamming and I don't think that is very townie of you. You must understand that your posts become more valuable the closer to the deadline.



Anyway LS, I will probably follow Damdred his read on you. Please try to keep good track of your posts and don't let me baffle you too much.

Also, if you really believe HTS is mafia. Make sure you have good long and solid posts left near deadline on why she is mafia. Because we will need solid posts to lynch her.


I just read HTS her posts and she brings up a really good point that I also wanted to bring up but didn't. You close your eyes to the quality of that post.

Here is a example post that actually got her townread a little bit in Newbie LX where she was scum:
On January 05 2015 22:14 Half the Sky wrote:
JarJarBinks, you had said on the previous page that you "would read and stuff". You post again now, saying "reading is hard."

I'll be honest, even if you were sarcastic there, you don't look good to me right now either because you don't give me the impression you want to scumhunt. Even with your computer broken, as you say, you still put in a few sentences on how you feel.

Your response to ExO indicates you are otherwise caught up on the thread, so aside from your question to him, why not a few lines on what you think of the 2 1/2 pages since beginning?

That shouldn't be too difficult from mobile.

and another post from there too:
On January 06 2015 10:34 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2015 09:44 -Celestial- wrote:
Out of interest what are your current scumreads in addition to Shining? And what about the recent read on LS?


JJB was another one now, based on his lack of interest in scumhunting, even though he had appeared to read the thread on mobile. My sentiment ironically is only further supported by his latest post.

Tubesock was one individual that I want to see step it up, because based on the Carol mafia game, I am aware of what he's capable of. I do not like how he used the D1 excuse, however, at the time he originally said that it was still fairly early in D1, I did not scumread him at that time because it was early. Now we are about halfway through D1 and there's a load of content to answer to and for.

Regarding the recent read on LS, I see where ExO is coming from with all the town reads, though I am not sure I agree with some aspects of his argument. For example, I'm not sure I entirely agree with LS not scum hunting, since he is asking questions (some of which are going unanswered). However, in his thoughts on Shining I am trying to follow the logic on his read:

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On January 05 2015 23:50 LightningStrike wrote:
The Shining: Town for now since she asking some questions and looks like she trying to figure this game out but again I need more posts from him to confirm my thoughts of him being town.


To this:

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On January 06 2015 06:10 LightningStrike wrote:
Also the drive by posting by Shining I think if Shining doesn't follow up on that then I could definitely see Shining as Scum but for now null I guess.


And then after Shining posts on his return, LS posts this:

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On January 06 2015 08:35 LightningStrike wrote:
As I said I needed more posts on some people to figure out their alignment and I had a null read on Shining on the stuff earlier but now it changed to town after his last post on this page.


To me, the progression in LS's reads isn't entirely clear. He has a lot of town reads, yes, but even more important, how he gets to them, especially when others may have contrasting views, is what needs some explanation.

Proves she can put some good effort posts as scum.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2016 02:46 GMT
#213
For people who claim to read my filter and try to nitpick posts you guys sure do miss context even when posts I'm quoted are right there.

If you read ff post he's mainly talking about the amount of times is spending defending himself. How you guys can say damdred says its not scummy L's wasting posts is beyond me.

Also hts saying I'm still basically going to vote her is just dead wrong when I've clearly said I'm not going to lynch her today based on her largish post.

Why Hts and shape both attack MW over the same obvious misrepresentation I'm not sure and it could possibly be scum trying to discredit me. I'll de ide on that soon.

GB does bother me to not involved in early enough so far but still have a few hours left to de idea on him.

SL also made some sense so dangerous game
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 21 2016 04:20 GMT
#214
Caught up. I'll filter dive tomorrow to really start sorting people before the deadline.

HtS is my top town read. I really liked how she pursued her scumleans on LS and TW. She kept talking to them. She wasn't trying to convince them that they were scum, but she was trying to get more information out of them. Implies to me that she cares more about solving than displaying her stances.

Shape is the person I'm most suspicious of, doesn't seem to be doing much and his posts are overly self-conscious, especially for someone that hasn't been seriously pressured yet.

I'm a little worried about Damdred. He was very quick to help Koshi against HtS and seemed like he dropped the pressure as soon as Koshi(who I'm leaning town on) wasn't leading the charge anymore.
Guts? Determination? $5?
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 21 2016 04:27 GMT
#215
Actually, I want to revise what I said about Shape. It isn't so much that he is self-conscious. It is more that he is just talking about himself a lot, even after the beginning posts.

Filtering LS to see if I want to sheep HtS.
Guts? Determination? $5?
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 21 2016 04:40 GMT
#216
I can see the scumminess in his reaction to HtS and in his opening. However,

@LS - What is your read on TT? You went out of your way to defend TW after TT's voting post. Do you have a better reason to scum HtS other than she is pushing you and is capable of a high-effort scum game?
Guts? Determination? $5?
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 05:25 GMT
#217
Phoneposting so no filter-diving for now but everyone is asking the inactives (that's me!) to at least tell where they stand so whatever.

town
Koshi for Koshi-ness
LS for defending me in a way that resonated with me (but oh no am I really the new LS)

town lean
Damdred for feeeels
TT for actually having a stance and trying, unlike the two scum games I played with him
I liked something from GB earlier and didn't dislike anything else does that count

scum lean
HtS feels unnatural to me but I don't know her meta... sources say it is just her meta but sources also scumread her so
SL for being useless but eh I'm not so into this one

null
Most people
I feel like I should have an opinion on FF but I don't
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 05:26 GMT
#218
HtS, why did you switch to toenleaning me? I didn't really post anything between scumlean and town lean so I don't see where that came from.
good times for all
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 21 2016 13:05 GMT
#219
On April 21 2016 13:40 DoYouHas wrote:
I can see the scumminess in his reaction to HtS and in his opening. However,

@LS - What is your read on TT? You went out of your way to defend TW after TT's voting post. Do you have a better reason to scum HtS other than she is pushing you and is capable of a high-effort scum game?

I do got a town lean on TT for actually trying case someone but I think he's wrong on TW.
For my reasons for scumreading HTS:
On April 20 2016 23:49 LightningStrike wrote:
I also starting to think HTS is scum because she picking a easy target history wise in me and she just saw me play in cell as scum so if she is mafia she got a perfect opportunity to do it here.

On April 20 2016 23:52 LightningStrike wrote:
I voting HTS for now as she is likely mafia looking for a easy target even considering our history together she knows I normally am lynchbait as town.

Other than I know she put high effort as scum and even post townie posts as scum and yes me and HTS had played maybe 10 games together. Other than that she also soft defended FF without actually dropping a read on him.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 21 2016 13:28 GMT
#220
[8/40]

Sorry for my inactivity guys. RL excuses. I have some time now for a little while, but chances are I won't be around at EOD / or at least I'll get home just around then.

@LS are you really saying that the only reason you're scum reading HTS is because she's pushing you and because you consider yourself an easy target? What about the other people who are pushing you (Koshi, for example)?
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