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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 22 2016 22:12 GMT
#2047
On April 23 2016 07:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2016 07:08 gumshoe wrote:
I hate you all, the feel of that lynch was all wrong. You wasted our 1 extra lynch on jas who wasn't even that bad, and tommorow your going to ignore me again and lynch tumble, can't wait.

You could have voted tumble instead if you thought jas was such a bad lynch. Then he would still be alive.



Dude is scum and wanted a mislynch.

JAT I will make a actual case for you so you can read it with quotes and everything. You told me you would actually read it. May be in a day or 2 because weekend but I will have it in time to be talked about before deadline.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 16:11 GMT
#2181
On April 24 2016 01:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 00:46 gumshoe wrote:
We've both analyzed the events of that lynch, we've both put together complex cases on it, you have jats vouch but that doesnt count for much as sl has been far more on point this game then him. This isnt a case of your right im wrong.

Both our views our valid, they simply differ, possibly because they must.

Which is all irrelevant for tomorrows lynch. Onegu is dying, do you have a problem with that?

Where the fuck has SL been more on point? Because he voted super day1? The only reason he stayed there is that he wasn't around for the flip.
Besides that he called shape confirmed mafia which I never did. So I call bullshit on that.
Your shit about me is really getting old.



Dude is mafia, and only obi is starting to see it... Case will be out at some point, real case just for you because you promised me you would read it.

Like just a bit ago he keeps saying he has provided multiple reasons for me to be mafia, and then 2 posts later he says there isnt much. So which is it. He doesnt know because he is posting so much bullshit making things up he cant even keep his story straight.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 17:57 GMT
#2221
On April 24 2016 02:56 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 02:15 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 24 2016 02:11 sicklucker wrote:
Jat might be town but I dont think him telling super were not voting palmar on a weekend makes him town. Thats just sucking up to and being afraid of palmar if hes scum. I know they have played quite a few games and the metas there. I mean its town points but its not an absolute.

If a scum jat saw the playerlist he would probably go I need to be get palmar on my side. Not saying this makes him scum what so ever but it is a feasible scenerio. Him saying that to super could also be his frustration of super pushing someone he shouldnt be pushing.

So ... much ... bullshit.

If I was scum mislynching Palmar day1 would be the greatest thing ever. I just let super try it and see how it goes. I don't even have to implicate myself.

And I CERTAINLY do not need to get Palmar on my side since I alread was his biggest townread at that point. Which is a very strong argument for me to be town btw. I may play a decent scumgame but I don't think I can fool Palmar this hard. I was the biggest townread of both nightkills. You KNOW that I shoot people who want to lynch me. Don't forget that.


ya im sure it was really hard to fool palmar for the 15 minutes he played the game. god syndrome much?



Its JAT... why are you surprised about this...
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 18:05 GMT
#2223
On April 24 2016 03:02 Tumblewood wrote:
Oh hi onegu
Are you still stuck on gumshoe and me?



Not you, Could be SL or rels also and will need to be looked into further but I am taking one thing at a time.

The fact that gumshoe is pushing the vote off of you so hard is really damning to you. So I would say like 60% you and then some other percent SL/Rels
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 18:21 GMT
#2228
On April 24 2016 03:13 sicklucker wrote:
ok we can stop fighting about who is more confirmed town now. but you of all people can understand my nit picking when all game you put doubt on me afking voting the mafia power role when he was in danger when everyone who voted him at any point in the game flipped town (aka no bus). In the very very unlikely chance were in final 3 trying to lynch each other we can get back at it.

Onegu if your scum you need to stop pushing this pathetic gumdrop world so the games challenging and fun



Dude posting more as scum is one of the easier metas to break and he is only making shit up. Like I am not the only one to see this Shape saw it right before he died. Obi is starting to see it.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 19:06 GMT
#2243
On April 24 2016 03:56 sicklucker wrote:
but rly is scum not gonna kill the claimed medic for the third night inarow? ROFL come on im so dead


lol
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 20:17 GMT
#2248
On April 24 2016 04:43 gumshoe wrote:
Onegu scumsies.

Exhibit a) Onegu is a terrible sheep

Knowing now what we do, we can put together a convincing portrait of how scum felt about super

There are two factors to supers day 1. One: Hes rb, so if he can be saved, he should be. Two: He wont be able to play really, so if it comes down to it its gotta be a bus, standard really but theres a bit more impetus to keep him alive.

Onegu fits this archetype pretty perfectly.

Show nested quote +
Why are we killing subpurbia? But I think I can sheep you today. Yeah going to sheep palmar.


He just sort of jumps on him at the tale end of the day (13:07, we see him post last around 13:54, roughly 1 hour before lynch), but didnt even wind up voting for super then, he stayed on rsoul even though he claimed he would sheep palmer… he never even acknowledged supers claim or adressed why he blatantly lied about sheeping.

Then after the gb flip, once it’s clear to scum that there's little chance to save super(for reasons that should be obvius), they start distancing themselves as far as fuck.

Show nested quote +
But this is a genuine scumslip. He tries to correct himself in the next post when he realized what he did but yeah scumslip.


(onegu day after lynch)

So yeah, day 1 onegu straight up said he would vote super and then… didnt… and never addresed why he changed his mind.

Exhibit b) not even onegu is this bads.

Onegus scum reads included -rsoul(town) fazzers(town) Obi (town) and me, oh and of course super doesnt count because as weve shown, his scum read of him arrives past the point of relevancy.

It’s not that his reads are wrong thats scummy (+ Show Spoiler +
heavens knows jats hella town
) its that he never doubts himself, at all. Notice after obi is proven town, I get really quite and sheepish for a while? Thats me recalibrating, thats what happens when townies realize they were totally wrong. Onegu doesnt have that, hes not trying to solve the game, hes just pushing the same reads hes had since day 1 because he knows thats exactly what people expect of him.




Dude, I posted I was sick and taking medicine or I would have sheeped palmar. He wanted to lynch Rsoul and I did too so we voted her, I wasnt around to change it. Second I never doubt myself. And I what you are saying doesnt make me scum at all. And how the hell does my sub read arrive after the point of relevancy it arrived night 1. And I never wavered on him I stayed on him the entire time because he scumslipped. And I dont fucking understand how you can blame me for my day one vote when you werent voting him either and even town reading him and put your vote on tumble.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 20:19 GMT
#2250
Your sub read arrived after mine so I dont understand how you can say this with a straight face.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 20:20 GMT
#2252
On April 24 2016 05:18 gumshoe wrote:
Rels is scum

As we said, scum did want to save super day 1, but they had to balance that against the fact that super didnt really wanna save super day 1.

I’m going to compare the lines that rels had concerning super, vs the ones he had vs tumble

Show nested quote +
I don't understand your thinking there, 1st post is scummy and NAI at the same time ?


At the time of this post, sl, obi and rsoul are all already voting super, so him pressuring him around now is the sweet spot for a buss honestly.

Show nested quote +
Superbia's spamming spree is awful. The 1-line posts with random reads and no reasonning. Very different from what I expect from town!Superbia.


Show nested quote +
Jumping on the easy wagon too. Superbia might be scum


Show nested quote +
What do you make of the fact that Palmar was lynched D1 as town recently for playing like that ?


Show nested quote +
Superbia for being so his spree of posting reads with no explanation and not pushing anything. I think town!Superbia is more focused than that, like he was in his Palmar post actually, but the reasonning in his Palmar post is bad.


Show nested quote +
What changed with Superbia ?


Show nested quote +
Superbia is also likely to be scum, I don't believe in that "too scummy to be scum" thing rsoul and gumshoe has bought up. He made only 1 post that was more than 1 line, and that post was bad.


Comparitively this is what he had on tumble

Show nested quote +
gumshoe 90% of your big post on tumble is narrative that doesn't prove anything. The last bit is good though. If Tumble is scum, it is because he focused all his energy on rsoultin and almost none on anyone else, after Palmar started to push her.


For this first post he doesnt even agree with most of what I’ve been saying / :

Show nested quote +
Tumble for entering the thread late with a non believable excuse and being obsessed with rsoul, which would be the perfect lynch for mafia.


The excuse bit is nothing that doesn't pertain to super as well.

Show nested quote +
Almost every post of Tumble is focused on rsoul. It is after Palmar started his "lynch rsoul" thing, so there is the possibility that Tumble is scum jumping on that lynch. He also has a lot of reasons to scumread her.
Noted above, "rsoul townreads Rels even though she disagrees with him".


Of course alot of his reasons are focused on 1 person and of course they aren't that good. That kinda happens day 1 as theres not that much info out there so you tend to focus on your best bet which usually isnt that great because again, theres not much info out there.

Show nested quote +
So the post in bold doesn't actually exist. So Tumble is claiming a reason that cannot be true. It's impossible for a townie to make up a reason for what he has done things.


Blatantly wrong, townies can 100 percent make shit up and be wrong, I do that all the time. Mistakes are a symptom of the players skill, not his alignment.

In general I think it’s kind of clear that his arguments about super seemed to indicate scum (shitty posting, not really pushing anything)

Whereas his arguments against tumble indicated derp (shit excuse, dumb mistakes)

At the very least I don't think ether case is better than the other, yet hes certain which one he wants to pursue, never once voting super even when he was his only real scum read (before tumble).



right after the flip, he distanced himself almost immediately.

Show nested quote +
Scum”


Rels, like Onegu, had compelling reasons to vote super, but never did.

Also like Onegu he immediately distances himself from super for the rest of the game because scum know he's dead for sure, which is something I have missed till now, supers scum mates know for sure hes dead cause they already know how everything will play out, so right immediately after day 1 its buss buss city.

As for association between onegu and rels, obviously nothing rels says about onegu means anything because hes onegu, but heres some jems from onegu to rels

Show nested quote +
also rels is in this game? Dont remember anything from him…


Show nested quote +
Really need to look into obi and rels also. Guess tumble also since rsoul thought he was scum. JAS also since he is the lead wagon.


Das it.

Even though rels has also been calling for his head all game, even though rels also meta read him like me (which according to onegu means hes scum)-

Show nested quote +
Also people saying they can meta read me are scum. Gumshoe. Rels, Rsoultin.


-Onegu still cant be assed to push him.

alright thats all I got for now, gotta go bais.


So by this measure you are scum also got you. Wanted to save super didnt vote him day 1 and then changed the read on him after it was obvious he was being lynched. Gumshoe check and check.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 20:21 GMT
#2253
On April 24 2016 05:19 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 05:17 Onegu wrote:
On April 24 2016 04:43 gumshoe wrote:
Onegu scumsies.

Exhibit a) Onegu is a terrible sheep

Knowing now what we do, we can put together a convincing portrait of how scum felt about super

There are two factors to supers day 1. One: Hes rb, so if he can be saved, he should be. Two: He wont be able to play really, so if it comes down to it its gotta be a bus, standard really but theres a bit more impetus to keep him alive.

Onegu fits this archetype pretty perfectly.

Why are we killing subpurbia? But I think I can sheep you today. Yeah going to sheep palmar.


He just sort of jumps on him at the tale end of the day (13:07, we see him post last around 13:54, roughly 1 hour before lynch), but didnt even wind up voting for super then, he stayed on rsoul even though he claimed he would sheep palmer… he never even acknowledged supers claim or adressed why he blatantly lied about sheeping.

Then after the gb flip, once it’s clear to scum that there's little chance to save super(for reasons that should be obvius), they start distancing themselves as far as fuck.

But this is a genuine scumslip. He tries to correct himself in the next post when he realized what he did but yeah scumslip.


(onegu day after lynch)

So yeah, day 1 onegu straight up said he would vote super and then… didnt… and never addresed why he changed his mind.

Exhibit b) not even onegu is this bads.

Onegus scum reads included -rsoul(town) fazzers(town) Obi (town) and me, oh and of course super doesnt count because as weve shown, his scum read of him arrives past the point of relevancy.

It’s not that his reads are wrong thats scummy (+ Show Spoiler +
heavens knows jats hella town
) its that he never doubts himself, at all. Notice after obi is proven town, I get really quite and sheepish for a while? Thats me recalibrating, thats what happens when townies realize they were totally wrong. Onegu doesnt have that, hes not trying to solve the game, hes just pushing the same reads hes had since day 1 because he knows thats exactly what people expect of him.




Dude, I posted I was sick and taking medicine or I would have sheeped palmar. He wanted to lynch Rsoul and I did too so we voted her, I wasnt around to change it. Second I never doubt myself. And I what you are saying doesnt make me scum at all. And how the hell does my sub read arrive after the point of relevancy it arrived night 1. And I never wavered on him I stayed on him the entire time because he scumslipped. And I dont fucking understand how you can blame me for my day one vote when you werent voting him either and even town reading him and put your vote on tumble.



I was wrong XD but I didnt know that : P you did.



I knew what?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 20:29 GMT
#2257
On April 24 2016 05:22 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 05:19 Onegu wrote:
Your sub read arrived after mine so I dont understand how you can say this with a straight face.


of course I can, I was wrong 100 percent day 1. Thats what townies do, make mistakes, learn from thier mistakes evolve and improve.

Thats not what your doing, your stagnating, waddling in the muck, pursuing reads that have made no sense since day 1 and you haven't been given any reason to buy into.

If your town, you literally just made some random scum reads at the start of the game, saw them flip green one by one, yet kept pushing them. So yeah, I can easily accuse you with a straight face. Doing that right now.



You just made shit up all game. And changed reads when it fits into your agenda. I follow my gut and stay with it. You just want to look good after flips. You try to figure out who is going to be lynched then put yourself in the position that makes you look best after they flip. Even going so far as to waste your vote on me. This is kinda why I am not sure on tumble, one hand looks like you tried to save him, the other really seemed like you didnt care about who was being lynched.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 20:30 GMT
#2258
On April 24 2016 05:24 sicklucker wrote:
ya but hes so town it hurts your not onegu



Are you his scummate?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 21:02 GMT
#2265
You mean the people, other than maybe tumble day 1 and that wasnt likely, that were never having a chance to be lynched?
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 21:33 GMT
#2269
On April 24 2016 06:23 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2016 06:02 Onegu wrote:
You mean the people, other than maybe tumble day 1 and that wasnt likely, that were never having a chance to be lynched?


No reasons to start pushing them a million posts then.

Face it, your floundering, I dont fit any scum team because I'm not scum.

The end.



No you could be scum with any of them and I will look into all of them. And thats how you play mafia. As either alignment you make cases on people and try to win. So yeah pushing people who arent being lynched is out of the mafia playbook. You post alot and pushing people doesnt make you town. You making shit up to fit your reads that makes you scum.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 21:37 GMT
#2270
Also I just checked I came back right before deadline you ask for my reads 8 min before deadline on 4 people. I respond to you at 5 min to deadline wait I just got my son to sleep then started working on my reads. So you gave me 8 min to give you my reads once I came back I saw it and said ok at 5 min til deadline then when I dont realize it is deadline time and still give you the reads you wanted now it is scummy as hell.

Again making up shit to fit your agenda
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 21:50 GMT
#2273
On April 18 2016 06:55 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 06:52 gumshoe wrote:
On April 18 2016 06:50 Onegu wrote:
Just got my son to sleep for his nap.

Why arent we talking more about the scumslip I found?


reads plox

Onegu,

can I get your reads on the following players

licker

obi

fazzers

palmer.



Working on it geez... What part of just got son down for his nap did you not understand?

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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 21:52 GMT
#2276
5 min until deadline

Nice try
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 21:54 GMT
#2278
Not sure wtf you are talking about SL
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 22:00 GMT
#2284
April 17 2016 17:55 EDT

my post

April 17 2016 18:00 EDT

flip
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 23 2016 22:01 GMT
#2287
Well ok then...

Onegu out...
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