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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 17 2016 22:00 GMT
#858
hah, palmer is amazing XD
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 17 2016 22:03 GMT
#861
I think I know what happened here, scum chose not to roll block super as he announced he was shooting palmer, so that means super is probs town vig / : or the actual vig shot the same target (more likely supers vig, seriously)
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 17 2016 22:05 GMT
#868
On April 18 2016 07:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 07:03 gumshoe wrote:
I think I know what happened here, scum chose not to roll block super as he announced he was shooting palmer, so that means super is probs town vig / : or the actual vig shot the same target (more likely supers vig, seriously)

I don't think that's likely at all. Why would mafia ever shoot fazers?!


oh yeah.... derp
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 17 2016 22:05 GMT
#869
On April 18 2016 07:04 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 07:03 gumshoe wrote:
I think I know what happened here, scum chose not to roll block super as he announced he was shooting palmer, so that means super is probs town vig / : or the actual vig shot the same target (more likely supers vig, seriously)


o.0 um...if scum shot fazers scum is retarded

we should start looking for the stupidest players in the game immediately


sooooooo yeah... im an idiot
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 17 2016 22:05 GMT
#870
##vote superbia
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 17 2016 22:10 GMT
#875
day is locked, gumshoe is derp.

unless scum just so happened to shoot palmer randomly (ignoring supers claim) they actively bolstered his vig claim (I assume thats the one he intended to make, because scum did actually bolster his claim which they wouldn't do unless hes scum too)

I also have a good idea who actual vig is.


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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 17 2016 22:10 GMT
#877
On April 18 2016 07:06 justanothertownie wrote:
This is why we do not lynch Palmar on a weekend btw. I seriously hope every townie who suggested that feels extremely silly right now.


T_T
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 17 2016 22:18 GMT
#886
On April 18 2016 07:14 Onegu wrote:
SL: Boring as fuck. Like wanted to Policy lynch me all of day one. Gives no reason for voting sub then bitches when GB flips and says should have done as I suggested... This all said most likely makes the asshole town because he is that messed up.

Obi: Backs SL up in wanting to policy lynch me then sheeps SL on to Sub? And as I have already said SL gave no reason to vote Sub that I can see... So why the fuck is he sheeping SL vote??? Then he goes and says SL is mafia??? He also made a post one point about GB doing the same thing before in a game and he voted him and he flipped town.

Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 14:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Gb is also more underwhelming than I remember.
The only reason I won't throw him high onto my list immediately is because I tunneled him for this kind of behavior once, and he was town.


He then goes on to vote GB for reasons... And GB flipped town.

Obi looks bad here. Could lynch obi I think.


Fazz: Why did you want me to look at this filter? Nothing there...

Palmar: Palmar is my boy. He is my boy blue. I like palmar and agree with most of his reads I think.


Gumshoe: Why ask me about the small filters? Why doesnt he want me to give my opinion on the meat and potatoes?


it was a trap, those were all the people voting super yesterday.

You thought super and fazzers were both scum even though they were on opposite sides of the bus. So I figured I could pull more contradictions out of you.

doesnt matter anymore though cause super is scum.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 17 2016 22:21 GMT
#889
On April 18 2016 07:10 gumshoe wrote:
day is locked, gumshoe is derp.

unless scum just so happened to shoot palmer randomly (ignoring supers claim) they actively bolstered his vig claim (I assume thats the one he intended to make, because scum did actually bolster his claim which they wouldn't do unless hes scum too)

I also have a good idea who actual vig is.




gonna repost this, as this is the priority.

It honestly does not matter whatever superbia says or claims.

What matters is that scum helped his postion

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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 18 2016 14:00 GMT
#933
On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote:
riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12


This lynch is effectively a sure hit as super really fucked up / : woulda been better of him to claim doc instead of get his scum team to put a pullet on palmer in order to contest the vig role (which is obviously what happened, as theres no way scum could have framed super in this fashion cause they had no idea what he would actually do if he was town)

Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread.

Whats more I really want to know what super flips, as if hes role blocker rsoul's theory gains some credibility (that of tumble and super both being scum) but if he flips goon or god, I'm inclined to town read tumble as I don't see super role claiming yesterday in order to get his scum buddy killed for no reason besides selfishness.

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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 18 2016 14:30 GMT
#937
On April 18 2016 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 23:00 gumshoe wrote:
On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote:
riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12

Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread.

There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants.


oks

it is 2 of 3 men.



Onegu jas, or... rels...

these reads assume that tumble is town though, so thats why I'm waiting on the super flip

I town read jat assuming that tumble is town, as you kind of wanted to lead the lynch away from him.

Sick lucker is town as he did straight up bus his teammate otherwise and hes post lynch bragging seems scuicidal coming from scum.

Rsoul is probs town cause effort and I dont see onegu just dropping off his vote on her if thier scum mates.


obi was also straight up bussing his mate from an early point if hes scum.

tumble is probs town if super is scum based off supers claim (unless super is rb)

Onegu's still at the top of mah list, my case before the day start hasn't changed at all, I especially hate how he supposedly "forgot" about the deadline to post his reads.

if onegu is town, he knows hes a vig target, so that kind of fuck up is huge as he honestly believes hes amazing. So he didn't care enough about his reads to get them in.

If hes scum, he was waiting to see if he got shot by vig before he wanted to offer an information whatsoever. So yeah, reaaaaaly scummy to my sight.

Jas and rels I got nothing really on, Jas's switch onto tumble instead of gj seemed to come out of nowhere but he was pushing super earlier so thats a bit odd.

It's also notable that he pushed into me and tumble early but backed off pretty fast.

rels... not sure, hes been gone a while now / : almost as if none of this matters to him.



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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 18 2016 14:38 GMT
#939
rels could just be busy though, but yeah, his day 1 convictions coupled with his subsequent apathy look spotty, but I would never lynch him before onegu, that dude is sure scum.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 18 2016 14:52 GMT
#941
On April 18 2016 23:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 23:30 gumshoe wrote:
On April 18 2016 23:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 18 2016 23:00 gumshoe wrote:
On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote:
riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12

Of course this has revamped alot of my reads but seeing as were already locked on I see no point to accusing someone before the flip just to fill thread.

There is a lot of point to it. We don't need to waste a whole day just because a lynch is decided. That's exactly what mafia wants.


oks

it is 2 of 3 men.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smJOkxVsbY0

Onegu jas, or... rels...

these reads assume that tumble is town though, so thats why I'm waiting on the super flip

I town read jat assuming that tumble is town, as you kind of wanted to lead the lynch away from him.

Sick lucker is town as he did straight up bus his teammate otherwise and hes post lynch bragging seems scuicidal coming from scum.

Rsoul is probs town cause effort and I dont see onegu just dropping off his vote on her if thier scum mates.


obi was also straight up bussing his mate from an early point if hes scum.

tumble is probs town if super is scum based off supers claim (unless super is rb)

Onegu's still at the top of mah list, my case before the day start hasn't changed at all, I especially hate how he supposedly "forgot" about the deadline to post his reads.

if onegu is town, he knows hes a vig target, so that kind of fuck up is huge as he honestly believes hes amazing. So he didn't care enough about his reads to get them in.

If hes scum, he was waiting to see if he got shot by vig before he wanted to offer an information whatsoever. So yeah, reaaaaaly scummy to my sight.

Jas and rels I got nothing really on, Jas's switch onto tumble instead of gj seemed to come out of nowhere but he was pushing super earlier so thats a bit odd.

It's also notable that he pushed into me and tumble early but backed off pretty fast.

rels... not sure, hes been gone a while now / : almost as if none of this matters to him.




I don't hate the Onegu argument. You shouldn't give SL a pass for this though. He bussed before and he didn't really do much to get Super lynched day1. Day2 doesn't count - noone gets credit for pushing super today.

And never ever should you townread rsoultin for effort. Some food for thought: rsoul likes killing people who want to lynch her or her scummates and who can't be reasoned with. Palmar died in the night.


fair enough / : I was 100 percent fucking wrong about super so yeah, I shouldn't really lock down a ton of reads. Still not willing to lynch anyone else until onegu and super are dead.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 18 2016 15:43 GMT
#966
On April 19 2016 00:32 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 00:31 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Hmmm, Out of curiously,

Who did you heal?


None of your business.


The problem super has already been stated, if your doc, we can never know, therefore yah gotta die / :

Whats more, scums shot on plamer makes no sense if they bilieve you at all. Ethier 1: they think your lying, in which case why bolster a townies position by killing the person that townie said theyd shoot. Or 2: They think your vig, in which case why shoot the same target as you. 3: they think your doc, in which case why would they not just rb ect.

It doesnt make sense unless your scum setting yourself up to contest the vig claim.

I also dont really like the way you've been testing the waters, going from

Meh. I'm VT too. =/

Should've lynched TW..


to this

If I'm the vigi I'm shooting Palmar.

If I'm the doctor I'm saving Gumshoe.


Yolo.
(which was just awful by the way)

to this

Just got home from work. I'm (probably) the doctor.


it really feels like your just testing the waters constantly to figure out what lie will be the most palatable for town.

sooooo yeah... you kinda have to die / : sorry.

and your not even worth an objection vid / :
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 18 2016 16:01 GMT
#971
On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims.


we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do

like, if the real doc (assuming he's not super) had actually successfully made a save last night and we could have three confirmed towns (vig claim + doc + save) and one confirmed mafia (super) then it would be worth claiming, but i honestly don't think the doc should cc here. i mean if he decides to i get it cause confirmed mafia is still good but i at least am lynching super anyway. if most of the rest of the town is, we don't need to give mafia that info


yeah I agree with this sentiment / : if the doc feels they need to claim here that would be kinda nice in that it would make things clear. But if they choose not to we still gotta lynch super as the scum shot onto palmer makes no sense unless he is scum and was intending to counter claim vig with that night kill.

it sucks if super actually is doc but if thats the case he can never prove it, so yeah, hes gotta die now.

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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 18 2016 16:14 GMT
#973
On April 19 2016 01:04 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.

The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.

This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim.


i personally find the doc NOT ccing here to prob be the better play, as long as he cc's before mylo/lylo. then there's still the chance of a save

i'm a little baffled as to why we haven't gotten a vig claim though. that is actually basic mafia, as opposed to being too pussy to evaluate a claim on its own merits instead of sitting on your hands and waiting for a cc that would neutralize the doc who still has the chance to stop night kp until he claims

super/tw/ows <- braglist

super is rb and they're desperate for a cc for when he gets lynched cause otherwise they have no way to prevent doc from making saves

lol i could totally be completely wrong but it would be so awesome to get the entire scum team before a single flip again...so so awesome \o/


well see / : if super doesnt flip rb, your double scum day 1 lynch theory falls apart : P
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 18 2016 17:50 GMT
#1000
On April 19 2016 02:35 Tumblewood wrote:
oh see
even as I was typing this
attacking superbia's shitty claim
there is no easier thing to object to



kk listen, I know you had a rough time day 1, everyone probs looks like your enemy, but jats not scum / : dude tried to protect you

Wtf where is this tumble vote from shaoe coming from?


and was pushing super before that before it was even that cool.

the games a bit vague, but there are some clear things here and there, especially from your point of view.

You are in the unique position of knowing for sure that your town (I only somewhat know for sure that your town) so use that vantage to actually find out who was shitty during yesterdays lynch and also look at the night kill correlation with supers vig shot claim while your at it. See if you can draw anyone else into that web.

I believe in you : D
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 18 2016 18:00 GMT
#1010
[QUOTE]On April 19 2016 02:56 Tumblewood wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 19 2016 02:50 gumshoe wrote:
[QUOTE]On April 19 2016 02:35 Tumblewood wrote:
oh see
even as I was typing this
attacking superbia's shitty claim
there is no easier thing to object to[/QUOTE]


kk listen, I know you had a rough time day 1, everyone probs looks like your enemy, but jats not scum / : dude tried to protect you

[quote]Wtf where is this tumble vote from shaoe coming from?[/quote]

and was pushing super before that before it was even that cool.

the games a bit vague, but there are some clear things here and there, especially from your point of view.

You are in the unique position of knowing for sure that your town (I only somewhat know for sure that your town) so use that vantage to actually find out who was shitty during yesterdays lynch and also look at the night kill correlation with supers vig shot claim while your at it. See if you can draw anyone else into that web.

I believe in you : D[/QUOTE]
See though I can't even mark people like Rels down for attacking me because if I were town and saw this I would say "TW made shit up" and tunnel me until the end of time[/QUOTE

rels might actually be scum though / : but jats actually frustrated and constantly active. His day 1 is objectively townie given what we now know and his overall play is involved and untrusting. Which usually means town.



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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 18 2016 18:00 GMT
#1011
woops?
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 18 2016 18:04 GMT
#1014
On April 19 2016 02:43 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 02:40 rsoultin wrote:
On April 19 2016 02:20 Tumblewood wrote:
gumshoe town if superbia scum
that WoT is counterproductive as scum because it indirectly shuts down a need for a CC


dude if you actually believe this about gumshoe but still are calling me scum i don't even know what to say

please don't be town here please don't be town please don't be town

i really don't want to call someone who is actually town stupid cause tbf when rayn does it to me it feels awful but this is just so terribly stupid >< like you've tunneled me blindly all game and you don't have the excuse of being a silly palmar to hide behind

but why that post about gumshoe to support this claim

I also kinda feel the same way about you; if I tunnel and you're scum it's justice, if I tunnel and you're town I'm an ass


hmm, that sounds kinda like an emotional reason to pursue a case...

I don't make emotional cases ever.


Knew that would come in handy : D

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