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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 17 2016 12:37 GMT
#766
On April 17 2016 21:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 12:57 rsoultin wrote:
reminder to self: verify the sl post

palmar's EoD actually looks pretty decent to me after a review of his filter

On April 17 2016 07:14 Fazers wrote:
On April 17 2016 07:07 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 17 2016 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Meh. I'm VT too. =/

Should've lynched TW..

Vig shoot this guy.

SECONDED.


^ this from the guy who doesn't know what to do yada yada is just meh. looks overdone to me tbh. fazers, we don't get hints. some sites might. we don't. if i'm around long enough + Show Spoiler +
and i urge those of you still in the game to do so if i'm not
i will push for your lynch before mylo/lylo if you continue to refuse to participate

it's not about being right. i've said this several times to you. it's about giving us something to read you by. i'd like your best guesses at alignments and why before the night is over

bueno...that's it for tonight i think. reads post later after some more digging

Yeah, the Fazer guy needs to put out content asap. He has his flip, now it is time to do work. Maybe he should die in the night otherwise. Onegu is also still a good shot though.
Depending on some things shape may be scum and
and I give super a chance of at least 50 % to be mafia aswell.


I pretty much agree with all of this.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 17 2016 16:30 GMT
#769
On April 18 2016 01:15 Fazers wrote:
why do you guys do this.


Probably because you have no reads and aren't doing anything.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 17 2016 21:19 GMT
#816
On April 18 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 05:56 rsoultin wrote:
yeah if it's not obvious i think super/tw scumteam is highly likely. not sure on the third

tw not voting for survival doesn't make any sense to me. i can get just feeling like there's no hope i really can but not when the alternative wagon is someone that you say you're scumreading

way more likely super is simply scum with tw and that's why tw didn't vote him but was fine voting gb

personally if i'm the vig i'm always shooting super here...if he's the doc he's useless and at least then we have the information

pretty confident that
gum
rels
jat
palmar

are all town

still need to check up on the thing about sl, but basically it amounts to the last time i played in a game where he was scum he told people not to talk at night, too, but i seem to remember him talking at night a lot as town. i could be misremembering though

not sure what it is about ows but i'm hesitant to put him in my town list. maybe it's the response to tumble or maybe it's him being more vocal or maybe it's just general paranoia after down under when i derped on him all the way up to lylo

who knows about oneg. his comment toward super makes me feel a little better about him though

shape and fazers (obv) not really sure...kinda liked shape early for a couple posts, but the "you always vote for survival" thing to tw does make me twitch a little so he doesn't get a firm townread either...just this thing where he's so damn buss happy and i'm having a hard time seeing a world where tw is town here


I 100 percent disagree with super being scum with tumble. Had they both been scum it would have likely been more of an outright bus / : Think about it, if super was bussing tumble, why would he claim? Then tumble dies and hes put in the spotlight and likely dies after if he cant substantiate his blue claim.

This all happened before the gb debacle, (which was total luck if tumble outside of any plan). It is a terrible terrible move, would've been far better to just let things take their course and have the living scummer take cred.

Seriously, super may be scum, but he is 100 percent not scum with tumble because of the heat that claim brings down on him.



I'm on board with this I think.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 17 2016 21:20 GMT
#818
My reads haven't really changed all that much from day phase aside from feeling less certain about TW.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 17 2016 21:30 GMT
#824
On April 18 2016 06:24 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 06:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 18 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote:
On April 18 2016 05:56 rsoultin wrote:
yeah if it's not obvious i think super/tw scumteam is highly likely. not sure on the third

tw not voting for survival doesn't make any sense to me. i can get just feeling like there's no hope i really can but not when the alternative wagon is someone that you say you're scumreading

way more likely super is simply scum with tw and that's why tw didn't vote him but was fine voting gb

personally if i'm the vig i'm always shooting super here...if he's the doc he's useless and at least then we have the information

pretty confident that
gum
rels
jat
palmar

are all town

still need to check up on the thing about sl, but basically it amounts to the last time i played in a game where he was scum he told people not to talk at night, too, but i seem to remember him talking at night a lot as town. i could be misremembering though

not sure what it is about ows but i'm hesitant to put him in my town list. maybe it's the response to tumble or maybe it's him being more vocal or maybe it's just general paranoia after down under when i derped on him all the way up to lylo

who knows about oneg. his comment toward super makes me feel a little better about him though

shape and fazers (obv) not really sure...kinda liked shape early for a couple posts, but the "you always vote for survival" thing to tw does make me twitch a little so he doesn't get a firm townread either...just this thing where he's so damn buss happy and i'm having a hard time seeing a world where tw is town here


I 100 percent disagree with super being scum with tumble. Had they both been scum it would have likely been more of an outright bus / : Think about it, if super was bussing tumble, why would he claim? Then tumble dies and hes put in the spotlight and likely dies after if he cant substantiate his blue claim.

This all happened before the gb debacle, (which was total luck if tumble outside of any plan). It is a terrible terrible move, would've been far better to just let things take their course and have the living scummer take cred.

Seriously, super may be scum, but he is 100 percent not scum with tumble because of the heat that claim brings down on him.



I'm on board with this I think.


yeah the reason you're both probably wrong here is simple:

tw's play makes no sense from town. two lynches and the opposite is your scumread you vote your scumread 100% every single time unless you're an idiot. hell even if you're townreading him you should probably do that, but if not at the very least be pushing an opposite lynch

what you guys are saying is that scum couldn't have made a mistake and instead it's more likely that either tumble is doing things that almost never come from town AS town and not voting a scumread OR that he's not voting on town AS scum

i think it's actually really simple and scum just made a mistake here. could i be wrong? sure. i admit it. i really don't think so though, and it makes way more sense then the other two scenarios i just laid out for you


I just agreed with the sentiment that tw and super aren't mafia together, I thought.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 17 2016 22:04 GMT
#864
Hrm.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 17 2016 22:26 GMT
#891
Cbf dealing with onegu again.
I'll just vote super unless his claim makes sense.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 17 2016 22:33 GMT
#894
On April 18 2016 07:28 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 07:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Cbf dealing with onegu again.
I'll just vote super unless his claim makes sense.



I kinda remember a post like this before. I think that game ended with me you and rsoul in lylo...


The game I recall was the game where you tunneled me all game despite me being town and being the only player actually playing.

But you can misremember whatever you want.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 18 2016 13:22 GMT
#931
On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote:
riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12


Not like there's much else to do while Super stalls as hard as he can.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 18 2016 15:23 GMT
#945
On April 18 2016 22:25 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 22:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 18 2016 18:40 sicklucker wrote:
riveting activity guys! I love when im the only one posting for the first 36 hours of the day but im the bad guy when shit comes up for the last 12


Not like there's much else to do while Super stalls as hard as he can.

Prob. is, I am using his time to read filters and crap.

What do you think so far OWS? besides super.


I think that you're probably mafia, for one.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 18 2016 15:32 GMT
#959
As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 18 2016 15:45 GMT
#967
On April 19 2016 00:42 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims.

While i am waiting,

Idk, Doc is like the only useful role in this game right now. Vig still hasn't claimed, yet he/she is still just a Named VT. Doc on the other hand can potentially rekt scum here, and it would make sense (IMO) for scum to try to make a play to call out a CC from real doc.

Idk the mechs. of FF's docs.


But he's an uncc'd doctor.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 18 2016 15:57 GMT
#969
On April 19 2016 00:51 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 00:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
As much as I'd love to lynch super despite everything, we can't lynch him unless someone counterclaims.


we 100% can and should because even if he is the doc he will be rb'd until the end of time. the only way i don't condone lynching him is if he busts his balls here and convinces me he's town the way all non-power roles have to do

like, if the real doc (assuming he's not super) had actually successfully made a save last night and we could have three confirmed towns (vig claim + doc + save) and one confirmed mafia (super) then it would be worth claiming, but i honestly don't think the doc should cc here. i mean if he decides to i get it cause confirmed mafia is still good but i at least am lynching super anyway. if most of the rest of the town is, we don't need to give mafia that info


But he's the uncc'd doctor.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 18 2016 15:58 GMT
#970
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.

The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.

This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 18 2016 16:28 GMT
#976
On April 19 2016 01:25 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 01:23 rsoultin wrote:
On April 19 2016 01:14 gumshoe wrote:
On April 19 2016 01:04 rsoultin wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.

The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.

This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim.


i personally find the doc NOT ccing here to prob be the better play, as long as he cc's before mylo/lylo. then there's still the chance of a save

i'm a little baffled as to why we haven't gotten a vig claim though. that is actually basic mafia, as opposed to being too pussy to evaluate a claim on its own merits instead of sitting on your hands and waiting for a cc that would neutralize the doc who still has the chance to stop night kp until he claims

super/tw/ows <- braglist

super is rb and they're desperate for a cc for when he gets lynched cause otherwise they have no way to prevent doc from making saves

lol i could totally be completely wrong but it would be so awesome to get the entire scum team before a single flip again...so so awesome \o/


well see / : if super doesnt flip rb, your double scum day 1 lynch theory falls apart : P


lol yeah i've only ever gotten the entire scumteam before a single mafia flip once, and that was later in the game, but a girl can dream ^^

super and tw (who btw has also gone awol lately) just seem scummy to me independently and it just fits in my head so so well...though i should prob check the voting and see if ows actually fits in that world or not tbh i don't remember where he was voting at eod


oh poo i'm probably wrong :/ ows was on super so that makes it less likely. oh well. i'm way ahead of myself as it is lol


Yeah, I was gonna say something about that.
Vig claiming here is bad simply because there's no point - what does town get out of that aside from one confirmed townie that's practically guaranteed to get shot?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 18 2016 16:44 GMT
#977
Like, do we even have any idea who else to lynch outside of the Doctor claim?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 18 2016 17:38 GMT
#985
On April 19 2016 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.

The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.

This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim.

As long as superbia doesn't put in a good effort to make me think he could be town I see no reason to out a potential doctor. A save would gain us a mislynch.


:/
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 18 2016 17:38 GMT
#987
On April 19 2016 02:36 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 01:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 19 2016 01:25 rsoultin wrote:
On April 19 2016 01:23 rsoultin wrote:
On April 19 2016 01:14 gumshoe wrote:
On April 19 2016 01:04 rsoultin wrote:
On April 19 2016 00:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
All of the arguments in the world won't mean anything if you're pushing the only Doctor claim in the game.

The lynch simply can't happen without a cc and, if there isn't one, super is essentially confirmed town.

This is a nonargument: this is basic mafia and I'm not going through with this lynch unless someone contests the claim.


i personally find the doc NOT ccing here to prob be the better play, as long as he cc's before mylo/lylo. then there's still the chance of a save

i'm a little baffled as to why we haven't gotten a vig claim though. that is actually basic mafia, as opposed to being too pussy to evaluate a claim on its own merits instead of sitting on your hands and waiting for a cc that would neutralize the doc who still has the chance to stop night kp until he claims

super/tw/ows <- braglist

super is rb and they're desperate for a cc for when he gets lynched cause otherwise they have no way to prevent doc from making saves

lol i could totally be completely wrong but it would be so awesome to get the entire scum team before a single flip again...so so awesome \o/


well see / : if super doesnt flip rb, your double scum day 1 lynch theory falls apart : P


lol yeah i've only ever gotten the entire scumteam before a single mafia flip once, and that was later in the game, but a girl can dream ^^

super and tw (who btw has also gone awol lately) just seem scummy to me independently and it just fits in my head so so well...though i should prob check the voting and see if ows actually fits in that world or not tbh i don't remember where he was voting at eod


oh poo i'm probably wrong :/ ows was on super so that makes it less likely. oh well. i'm way ahead of myself as it is lol


Yeah, I was gonna say something about that.
Vig claiming here is bad simply because there's no point - what does town get out of that aside from one confirmed townie that's practically guaranteed to get shot?


how about one confirmed townie? like are you serious?


Yep!
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 18 2016 17:39 GMT
#988
On April 19 2016 02:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2016 02:16 Tumblewood wrote:
It's mid-D2 and I have like 2 townreads what is this
rsoul why is ows scum


mostly cause he's being awful (and not low content kinda normalish ows awful but legit logic awful, and i have a better impression of him than that) maybe mixed with a little paranoia from the last time i played with him when he was scum and i townread him for shit reasons all the way to lylo


>:|
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 18 2016 17:52 GMT
#1004
On April 19 2016 02:41 Tumblewood wrote:
OWS what is the point of these emoticons
"oh no he felt angry face he must be town"


Go away.
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