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Alright, so my most cold/anylytical self says we have to lynch onegu here
I missed the bit about him posting in the ban list, which means he may very we'll have just been funnelling his rage into this game. So it really is nai, and everything he's done before is pretty scummy (the wasted day 1 vote has scumgu written all over it)
I was honestly only giving him a pass because of the way the obi theory fit in my head T-T and with jas not claiming immediately that's dead.
Onegu is well worth our one mislynch if he is somehow town, as it is never a good idea to take a troll question mark into potential Lylo. He is the last person we want to have to keep in the back of our minds and he has a good chance of flipping red. So he's mah lynch of choice.
##vote onegu
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This is the problem with having onegu as scum, his team mates can just bus him all game and not care at all what happens to him. Onegu could very well be scum with sl jas rels or tumble because they never have to defend him, or rather they simply won't as doing so would be dumb.
Whereas we may or may not find ties between the other 4, we may very well never be able to prove a link to any of them with onegu.
He is a rabid dog who serves his team best by being incredulous and disposable. That coupled with his insane scum reads (me and rsoul for one) his wasted d1 vote and his delayed night reads (and more if you really want to hear about it ) make him a mandatory target for today.
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On April 22 2016 02:52 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 02:47 gumshoe wrote:
This is the problem with having onegu as scum, his team mates can just bus him all game and not care at all what happens to him. Onegu could very well be scum with sl jas rels or tumble because they never have to defend him, or rather they simply won't as doing so would be dumb.
Whereas we may or may not find ties between the other 4, we may very well never be able to prove a link to any of them with onegu.
He is a rabid dog who serves his team best by being incredulous and disposable. That coupled with his insane scum reads (me and rsoul for one) his wasted d1 vote and his delayed night reads (and more if you really want to hear about it ) make him a mandatory target for today.
This is all true. The problem is he is a total crapshoot. Regardless of what he flips we won't be any wiser tomorrow and sadly he is the kind of player who doesn't do anything, fucks off and let's his team down as town.
Do you wanna deal with the crap shoot now or at Lylo? We can never lynch him again if we mislynch today
The game will hinge on what coin the host flipped when he handed out Onegus alignment.
Obviously the counter argument is "don't mislynch today" but onegu doesn't have that bad a shot at flipping scum. The case I made eon 1 is still totally relevant.
We will never have a chance to cross him off again and sucks that were in this position after only one mislynch, but honestly, he has done some scummy shit and he could very well be scum with any of the 4 which don't hurt our odds with him.
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Did you know in vanilla bh lead a last second shenanie onto him when they were both scum? It almost worked too and I wrote off bh for the rest of the game because of it after onegu flipped red.
He just has to die, no connection, no case, no analysis is as pressing as the fact that we are currently playing with a total enigma. Anything less then confirmed mafia (like super was)does not take presidency over that.
Also as today is possibly the only day we can reliably pressure him we should do so. Who knows, problem might solve itself.
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On April 22 2016 03:07 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 03:03 gumshoe wrote:On April 22 2016 02:52 justanothertownie wrote:On April 22 2016 02:47 gumshoe wrote:
This is the problem with having onegu as scum, his team mates can just bus him all game and not care at all what happens to him. Onegu could very well be scum with sl jas rels or tumble because they never have to defend him, or rather they simply won't as doing so would be dumb.
Whereas we may or may not find ties between the other 4, we may very well never be able to prove a link to any of them with onegu.
He is a rabid dog who serves his team best by being incredulous and disposable. That coupled with his insane scum reads (me and rsoul for one) his wasted d1 vote and his delayed night reads (and more if you really want to hear about it ) make him a mandatory target for today.
This is all true. The problem is he is a total crapshoot. Regardless of what he flips we won't be any wiser tomorrow and sadly he is the kind of player who doesn't do anything, fucks off and let's his team down as town. Do you wanna deal with the crap shoot now or at Lylo? We can never lynch him again if we mislynch today The game will hinge on what coin the host flipped when he handed out Onegus alignment. Obviously the counter argument is "don't mislynch today" but onegu doesn't have that bad a shot at flipping scum. The case I made eon 1 is still totally relevant. We will never have a chance to cross him off again and sucks that were in this position after only one mislynch, but honestly, he has done some scummy shit and he could very well be scum with any of the 4 which don't hurt our odds with him. If he really ragequit he might actually get modkilled at some point though. I know that is a dangerous assumption but nevertheless.
If he gets mod killed ill sheep you on whoever, but onegu could very well be spiteful enough to skirt the line.
We lose nothing by at least pressuring him today.
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On April 22 2016 03:14 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 03:13 gumshoe wrote:On April 22 2016 03:07 justanothertownie wrote:On April 22 2016 03:03 gumshoe wrote:On April 22 2016 02:52 justanothertownie wrote:On April 22 2016 02:47 gumshoe wrote:
This is the problem with having onegu as scum, his team mates can just bus him all game and not care at all what happens to him. Onegu could very well be scum with sl jas rels or tumble because they never have to defend him, or rather they simply won't as doing so would be dumb.
Whereas we may or may not find ties between the other 4, we may very well never be able to prove a link to any of them with onegu.
He is a rabid dog who serves his team best by being incredulous and disposable. That coupled with his insane scum reads (me and rsoul for one) his wasted d1 vote and his delayed night reads (and more if you really want to hear about it ) make him a mandatory target for today.
This is all true. The problem is he is a total crapshoot. Regardless of what he flips we won't be any wiser tomorrow and sadly he is the kind of player who doesn't do anything, fucks off and let's his team down as town. Do you wanna deal with the crap shoot now or at Lylo? We can never lynch him again if we mislynch today The game will hinge on what coin the host flipped when he handed out Onegus alignment. Obviously the counter argument is "don't mislynch today" but onegu doesn't have that bad a shot at flipping scum. The case I made eon 1 is still totally relevant. We will never have a chance to cross him off again and sucks that were in this position after only one mislynch, but honestly, he has done some scummy shit and he could very well be scum with any of the 4 which don't hurt our odds with him. If he really ragequit he might actually get modkilled at some point though. I know that is a dangerous assumption but nevertheless. If he gets mod killed ill sheep you on whoever, but onegu could very well be spiteful enough to skirt the line. We lose nothing by at least pressuring him today. Try to pressure him all you want. Fine by me. But you can't really pressure someone who isn't around.
Well if he's scum he's lurking probs, you pressure dem with votes XD
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##vote jas
if were not killing onegu then I guess it's gotta be jas as I still have reservations about tumble and my sl theory is just flames now that obi is confirmed XD (god I hope hes not scum)
still sucks to leave him around but if thats a risk you guys wanna take then so be it / :
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Still though, parking his votes on clear townies is exactly how scumgu plays -_- he also uses tons of life excuses as scum as well.
He also just dropped his read on me and fucked off.
grrrrrrr hate bringing him into end game.
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On April 23 2016 03:18 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 03:08 gumshoe wrote:
Still though, parking his votes on clear townies is exactly how scumgu plays -_- he also uses tons of life excuses as scum as well.
He also just dropped his read on me and fucked off.
grrrrrrr hate bringing him into end game.
I use life excuses in town games, I am disabled and have a disabled son shit comes up. Like dont use meta, you are bad at it if you are town or you are just making up reads for the fun of it as scum. You have tried to make multiple meta reads on me this game going from town, to sucm to town to scum and it looks fake as hell to me that you actually believe these reads. I havent fucked off I am around and plan on reading shit before deadline. Also I have a very good track record as town of actually figuring the game out during lylo.
I don't know where your confidence comes from, but I just want to point out its a lot easier to solve Lylo when your are consistently the scummiest person there.
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On April 23 2016 04:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Gumshoe get your ass in this game.
What, it's one of 5 people, I still feel that tumble is town based off that day 1, though I do aknolodge that could be not true, rels feels pretty townie to me as he has all game but again, could be wrong.
That leaves jas, sl and onegu.
Sl is apparently playing his town meta and since there's no connection to obi he's def not today's lynch.
I want to kill onegu as I don't see a reason not to and the dude goes out of his way to intentionally make himself unreadable on top of everything else about him so may as well deal with him now while we can.
But everyone wants jas dead so whatever, someone once said that mafia is sometimes about knowing who to sheep. Welp, this is me sheeping.
I've made my points on onegu, if they are not compelling I'm not gonna keep arguing with him as it's just going to devolve into us both bieng really nasty to each other(or at least more so) you know exactly where I stand, this is your game jat, it even has your name on it. Make the call and I'll abide.
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On April 23 2016 05:06 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Gumshoe, outside of sheeping on meh, what is your current reasoning for wanting meh dead?
Just process of elimination, I don't find other candidates that scummy (rels, tumble, sl) for various reasons.
That just leaves you and gu and while I would rather kill him my suspect pool is so low I don't particularly mind killing you instead.
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On April 23 2016 05:26 JustAnotherScummer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 05:13 gumshoe wrote:On April 23 2016 05:06 JustAnotherScummer wrote:
Gumshoe, outside of sheeping on meh, what is your current reasoning for wanting meh dead? Just process of elimination, I don't find other candidates that scummy (rels, tumble, sl) for various reasons. That just leaves you and gu and while I would rather kill him my suspect pool is so low I don't particularly mind killing you instead. Hyperthical situation. I filp town, and lets for the hell of it say Onegu flips scum (it can be town w/e.) who is your thrid scum?
And now we get to the meat of it, why I hate playing with onegu, when your scum amongst equals, it hurts to betray. There are a few bastards like holy flare but generally as jat said, you don't do that to your team unless there's no other choice.
But onegu is often bussed from day 1, who his mate? Literally anyone. No one listens to him, so he can push as he pleases. That's why I'm not exactly happy with the situation / :
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Fuck it, strategically onegu is today's best lynch. Jas may very well be getting bussed now. But I doubt that was the case at the games start, that doesn't apply to onegu. We need to know what he is now while we can still afford the hit.
## unvote
##vote onegu
Y'all can vote what you want, im staying on this guy.
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I held off on saying this as well for a bit, but it bears notice that jas isn't really pushing onegu over tumble even though onegu is the easier target and he gets auto traction from me on 1gu.
There are two reasons I see for this
1: he's town and genuinely thinks tumble is the better lynch.
2: he's scum with 1gu and doesn't wanna drag him down with him.
Ether way, that makes 1gu the better lynch, as I feel that if the above cases aren't true there's no reason not to just be jamming his vote down 1gus throat
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On April 23 2016 06:12 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote:
I held off on saying this as well for a bit, but it bears notice that jas isn't really pushing onegu over tumble even though onegu is the easier target and he gets auto traction from me on 1gu.
There are two reasons I see for this
1: he's town and genuinely thinks tumble is the better lynch.
2: he's scum with 1gu and doesn't wanna drag him down with him.
Ether way, that makes 1gu the better lynch, as I feel that if the above cases aren't true there's no reason not to just be jamming his vote down 1gus throat Your reason for voting me is I am onegu... You made a bunch of shit meta reads that dont work and you are calling me scum for them and have waffled so damn hard on them. I want this guy to be scum so damn hard.
Feelings mutual, difference is im as easy to read as they come, your the total opposite / : and you take pride in that all while bieng totally wrong and useless.
You are playing vanilla mafia 2.0 and there is no reason not to lynch you for it besides your mythic level mystique of badness.
And you have the gall to be mad, hah.
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On April 23 2016 06:21 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 06:16 gumshoe wrote:On April 23 2016 06:12 Onegu wrote:On April 23 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote:
I held off on saying this as well for a bit, but it bears notice that jas isn't really pushing onegu over tumble even though onegu is the easier target and he gets auto traction from me on 1gu.
There are two reasons I see for this
1: he's town and genuinely thinks tumble is the better lynch.
2: he's scum with 1gu and doesn't wanna drag him down with him.
Ether way, that makes 1gu the better lynch, as I feel that if the above cases aren't true there's no reason not to just be jamming his vote down 1gus throat Your reason for voting me is I am onegu... You made a bunch of shit meta reads that dont work and you are calling me scum for them and have waffled so damn hard on them. I want this guy to be scum so damn hard. Feelings mutual, difference is im as easy to read as they come, your the total opposite / : and you take pride in that all while bieng totally wrong and useless. You are playing vanilla mafia 2.0 and there is no reason not to lynch you for it besides your mythic level mystique of badness. And you have the gall to be mad, hah. You try to meta read me all god damn game when you say yourself say it cant be done... And now instead of actually going into my filter and say oh look at this you dont even try to build a case. And now you call me bad but then say it is easy to read you? What does that say about you?
I've never claimed to be good at anything other than nk and sometimes vote analysis. I'm not even that good at that honestly, but at least I'm not delusional about it.
Also the meta case is meant to prove that when you play awful your not guaranteed to be town,
Your stupid reads on me and rsoul your day 1 vote waste, you not giving your eon reads until after shot, this is all scummy terrible play. The meta read is just to show that you bieng terrible is not beholden to your town alignment, therefore we should disregard your meta and kill you for bieng scummy as fuck.
It's funny , I.actually made the opposite of a meta case now that I think about XD
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!Onegu is only playing the game right now because he might die.
If he was town, he would at least have one more vote on him.
There's no fucking way jas flips scum here with the way this lynch is going.
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On April 23 2016 06:32 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 06:26 gumshoe wrote:On April 23 2016 06:21 Onegu wrote:On April 23 2016 06:16 gumshoe wrote:On April 23 2016 06:12 Onegu wrote:On April 23 2016 06:08 gumshoe wrote:
I held off on saying this as well for a bit, but it bears notice that jas isn't really pushing onegu over tumble even though onegu is the easier target and he gets auto traction from me on 1gu.
There are two reasons I see for this
1: he's town and genuinely thinks tumble is the better lynch.
2: he's scum with 1gu and doesn't wanna drag him down with him.
Ether way, that makes 1gu the better lynch, as I feel that if the above cases aren't true there's no reason not to just be jamming his vote down 1gus throat Your reason for voting me is I am onegu... You made a bunch of shit meta reads that dont work and you are calling me scum for them and have waffled so damn hard on them. I want this guy to be scum so damn hard. Feelings mutual, difference is im as easy to read as they come, your the total opposite / : and you take pride in that all while bieng totally wrong and useless. You are playing vanilla mafia 2.0 and there is no reason not to lynch you for it besides your mythic level mystique of badness. And you have the gall to be mad, hah. You try to meta read me all god damn game when you say yourself say it cant be done... And now instead of actually going into my filter and say oh look at this you dont even try to build a case. And now you call me bad but then say it is easy to read you? What does that say about you? I've never claimed to be good at anything other than nk and sometimes vote analysis. I'm not even that good at that honestly, but at least I'm not delusional about it. Also the meta case is meant to prove that when you play awful your not guaranteed to be town, Your stupid reads on me and rsoul your day 1 vote waste, you not giving your eon reads until after shot, this is all scummy terrible play. The meta read is just to show that you bieng terrible is not beholden to your town alignment, therefore we should disregard your meta and kill you for bieng scummy as fuck. It's funny , I.actually made the opposite of a meta case now that I think about XD How are my reads on you stupid. You are making shit up to fit your own narrative. Your read on me has waffled so damn much and then you want to lynch me in lylo -1. There were multiple people who wanted to lynch me day 1 for being me, why didnt you do it then? And really your only reason for scum reading me is my day one vote? I wasnt the only person scum reading her then or do you forget that Palmar wanted her lynched also and then I wasnt even around at deadline.
Other reasons listed as well, your read on me is awful, the fact you haven't abandoned it long ago means your forced to beat this dead horse.
Which is exactly how scum play.
Please can we dog pile this guy? I'll totes suck at least half (ok a quarter) of a dick to see him die.
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On April 23 2016 06:35 Onegu wrote:
Calling it right now Tumble, Gumshoe scum team
Onegu has been told that I'm basically confirmed town this game,he knows how much he gets mislynched, with these two facts in mind he continues to be brutally obtuse.
Dis guy scum peepels
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On April 23 2016 06:42 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 06:39 gumshoe wrote:On April 23 2016 06:35 Onegu wrote:
Calling it right now Tumble, Gumshoe scum team Onegu has been told that I'm basically confirmed town this game,he knows how much he gets mislynched, with these two facts in mind he continues to be brutally obtuse. Dis guy scum peepels Told by SL, and people can change their meta when it is a activity based meta read. That doesnt make you confirmed god damn town. And how can you keep saying it is bad when at least one other person has said they see what I see
He typed lol before that -_- and he might be scum.
Here's some stuff,
Jas is probs not scum with tumble, given the effort put I to his tumble case currently
Rels isn't scum with tumble, given how he convinced jat why he wasn't confirmed town
Sl isn't getting lynched today it seems,
So that leves onegu..... Whose already a great lynch cause he's scummy and he could be scum with anyone
Damn you jat "gumshoe get the fuck back"= ignore gumshoe.
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