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Onegu you really have no right to be upset / : no one forces you to sign up for games on a site where most see you as a fairly trolly player. you know your own reputation, you built it after all. What comes of it is entirely on you.
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On April 21 2016 08:55 sicklucker wrote:
so gumdrop is voting me because we came to the same conclusion on supers plans. Great great its one of those games. Well i dont think he will ever get a chance to throw this game anyway.
##unvote
illl wait till everyone responds to obi before I push anything else / :
obviously I have to reevaluate in response to obi as it would be silly not to T_T
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On April 21 2016 09:06 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 09:04 gumshoe wrote:On April 21 2016 08:55 sicklucker wrote:
so gumdrop is voting me because we came to the same conclusion on supers plans. Great great its one of those games. Well i dont think he will ever get a chance to throw this game anyway.
##unvote illl wait till everyone responds to obi before I push anything else / : obviously I have to reevaluate in response to obi as it would be silly not to T_T respond to what? most of us already knew obi was town. This changes nothing other then crashing your horrible theory , which I must say im sort of enjoying =]
I havent given up yet : P
tumble and rels could still cc.
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Welp, just skimmed over the game under the assumption that obis town, jat is town based off his day 1 interactions with super. ( defending Palmer from super ) the whole not lynching Palmer on a weekday is such a wierd reason for two scum to conflict so yeah, jats town
Tumb is town, don't wanna argue why again
Obi is evidently town.
Dick move analysis says onegu is town (can't see him getting that upset as scum, he was way calmer in vanilla)
That leaves jas sl and rels, so yes, there is a world where sl is town XD (the one where rels and jas are scum together)
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On April 21 2016 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 09:51 gumshoe wrote:
Welp, just skimmed over the game under the assumption that obis town, jat is town based off his day 1 interactions with super. ( defending Palmer from super ) the whole not lynching Palmer on a weekday is such a wierd reason for two scum to conflict so yeah, jats town
Tumb is town, don't wanna argue why again
Obi is evidently town.
Dick move analysis says onegu is town (can't see him getting that upset as scum, he was way calmer in vanilla)
That leaves jas sl and rels, so yes, there is a world where sl is town XD (the one where rels and jas are scum together)
The problem with your onegu logic is that he can do that as any alignment. There is 0 reason to assume he would only say this stuff as town. And he is the kind of player who does shit like this to brag how much of a genius he is afterwards if it works.
quotes or it didnt happen. Find me games were onegu knowingly incured warnings as scum to make it look like he was genuine.
I think the guys delusional, terrible at mafia and has an undeserved persecution complex, but your asserting that he just outright cheated / : (breaking rules to earn confidence he cant be bothered to actually earn through play)
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On April 21 2016 10:01 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 09:59 gumshoe wrote:On April 21 2016 09:54 justanothertownie wrote:On April 21 2016 09:51 gumshoe wrote:
Welp, just skimmed over the game under the assumption that obis town, jat is town based off his day 1 interactions with super. ( defending Palmer from super ) the whole not lynching Palmer on a weekday is such a wierd reason for two scum to conflict so yeah, jats town
Tumb is town, don't wanna argue why again
Obi is evidently town.
Dick move analysis says onegu is town (can't see him getting that upset as scum, he was way calmer in vanilla)
That leaves jas sl and rels, so yes, there is a world where sl is town XD (the one where rels and jas are scum together)
The problem with your onegu logic is that he can do that as any alignment. There is 0 reason to assume he would only say this stuff as town. And he is the kind of player who does shit like this to brag how much of a genius he is afterwards if it works. quotes or it didnt happen. Find me games were onegu knowingly incured warnings as scum to make it look like he was genuine. I think the guys delusional, terrible at mafia and has an undeserved persecution complex, but your asserting that he just outright cheated / : (breaking rules to earn confidence he cant be bothered to actually earn through play) It doesn't even have to be deliberate. He can genuinely rage like that as town or mafia. His alignment has nothing to do with it.
I just dont buy that / : it's another case where it's like, could Onegu be funneling the rage he feels to make himself look townie? Maybe.
But judging from what I have seen of him as scum, he doesn't get nearly as mad.
Also the key point I am making is that if Onegu is scum, he just knowingly cheated, his reference to my modkill comment shows he knew what he was doing, so unless onegu is a total piece of shit, hes not scum.
using a mod warning to make yourself look like a rageful townie is one of the most abusive moves possible. I would lose all respect for someone who did that.
Show me proof he can do that as scum and I'll concede the point and what little faith I have in him. Till then he gets the benefit of the douche/doubt / :
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On April 21 2016 10:15 justanothertownie wrote:
I mean he knowingly cheated regardless of his alignment by doing that. It makes no difference what alignment he is.
It makes a huge difference.
If he's town in his mind he is righteous.
If he's scum he's just slime.
It's easy to just say it makes no difference but it really does as it's the difference between being right and wrong outside the game. (He's moved things off the board)
And that's what onegu has done, he's made this about his morality and his sense of being wronged instead of being about the game itself.
Regardless of wether he was right to do that(he really wasn't)That does means a lot to me jat, I hope you don't think too less of me for that / :
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On April 21 2016 10:28 sicklucker wrote:
Just ignore all emotions that can be real or fake. thats not why I started playing this game. Like its not even video mafia where you can commend someone for faking it. Its words and they mean nothing
If there's anything I consider reliable, it's my dick move analysis. Fun fact, I have never been wrong with it. Not once, my theory based reads are the ones that get me in trouble XD
If that changes this game I'll accept that, but it is hands down my most reliable method of reading people. ( though I'm happy it doesn't come into play too often) Even if extreme emotions on a page should not be considered reliable, my experiences have all indicated the opposite.
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I just went over 3 games were onegu was lynched, he never came close to anything like this outburst.
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Also I've seen this specific "x player is ruining mafia" tirade before, almost never comes from scum. Especially not the ones that are actually really virulent like this.
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##vote jas
Super may have started distancing himself from jas day 2.
As things stand, can't see who else could be scum.
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On April 21 2016 23:55 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 23:41 Tumblewood wrote:
Really, the scummiest thing Rels has done wasn't voting me D1 but dropping/ignoring the case later. No worries I haven't drop it, we were busy killing Superbia yesterday and I want some time to reread a lot of stuff before deciding who to vote today.
Are you caught up to the thread ATM?
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On April 22 2016 00:00 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 23:59 gumshoe wrote:On April 21 2016 23:55 Rels wrote:On April 21 2016 23:41 Tumblewood wrote:
Really, the scummiest thing Rels has done wasn't voting me D1 but dropping/ignoring the case later. No worries I haven't drop it, we were busy killing Superbia yesterday and I want some time to reread a lot of stuff before deciding who to vote today. Are you caught up to the thread ATM? Not at all, catching up.
Don't post anymore till you are please
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On April 22 2016 00:30 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 09:55 sicklucker wrote:
gonna go read rels filter. im so sure hes mafia but outside of votes I have no real reason to think hes mafia. BUT HIS VOTE IS SO FUCKING MAFIA. your just gonna have to trust me on this one. im voting him today because I dont trust yall to do it torm even with a shape flip Tumble is pretty likely scum so my vote is actually "so fucking town".
tumble isnt scum / :
first big case e.o.n, read it.
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On April 22 2016 00:56 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 00:54 Rels wrote:Leaving work soon, will be on my phone all evening so no big post but I'll be around to react. I'm OK with Tumble / Onegu / JAS. Tumble is waaaay more likely to be scum though. The thing gumshoe bought up about Superbia & him being suicidal D1 doesn't apply for a few reasons: 1. Superbia was RB. Scum's #1 priority is to let him live. Superbia claiming to live over Tumble makes sense. 2. Tumble NEVER voted Superbia, even though he was "scumreading" him, to save his life; but he voted GB, who he had no real opinion on. 3. Reason 1 is true, but it's not even what happened. Here is the sequence of events: On April 17 2016 06:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Might just vote GB on principle though. On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote:
jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything. On April 17 2016 06:50 justanothertownie wrote:On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote:
jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything. Not really. Too many people who are just not invested in this game. On April 17 2016 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
I am sick and tired of having to decide day1 lynches. Voted GB, do what you want. On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
fuck it, I'm staying course on superbia. His rsoultin/gb read post was completely non-sensical, he's taking a lot of weird stances based on literal things without trying to diagnose what may be behind it (look at his thing about fazer. Unless fazer is a good/experienced player it's unlikely he'd admit to just sheeping people as mafia).
I think it's a good lynch. On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
his case on me was also terrible.
I encourage people to sheep me on superbia. On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote:
I can't make it any clearer than this right now. DO NOT LYNCH ME. On April 17 2016 06:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm down for yolo'ing onto GB. On April 17 2016 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
his case on me was also terrible.
I encourage people to sheep me on superbia. Maybe I will. On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote:
I'm a PR you dipshits. During the minutes before Superbia's fakeclaim, it was quite evident that the fight evolved into Superbia vs GB, not Superbia vs Tumble. So he didn't killed Tumble by claiming, like gumshoe said. Actually it is the opposite. He didn't fakeclaim as long it was a "Tumble vs Superbia" fight, but as soon as it was "GB vs Superbia", he fakeclaimed. Ah, so I remembered correctly. Good job little minion. Shape+Tumble still makes a lot of sense to me and it also makes sense that they would kill rsoultin.
yeah except rels is wrong -_-
so yeah jat, when super claimed, there was one vote on gb and gb had LITERALLY just voted(wish time stamp gave the second XD).
also this post to palmer (in response to plamer saying he would stay on super)
Nope. Fuck you.
which happened just before gb voted and implies he was about to claim.
I can't make it any clearer than this right now. DO NOT LYNCH ME.
the actual claim seems to support this chain of events as the "make it clearer" warning implies his earlier post was a claim, or at least a preamble to one.
Super claimed knowing full well that if tumble was his scum part he just killed them both, it is not reasonable to consider a shenanie onto gb in that spot as a likely outcome as gb may very well have been about to get modkilled instead.
point is, with only one vote from jat onto gb WHO AT THE TIME WAS ABOUT TO GET MODKILLED AS HE WAS NOT VOTING(or something, not sure how the rules work XD)
Super made a move that would kill them both on the off chance that gb voted.
also jat is just not scum with super, hes just not. Read their interactions over palmer and the day 1 lynch. I can go into it, but its just not scum on scum / :
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I don't think it's reasonable to expect town to vote onto someone whose not voting.
Also if the vote did backfire it would have been disastrous.
And this all happened in the course of minutes. To assume mafia could internalize all that and risk utter disaster is silly / :
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It's like this, if gb had not come back ( which scum could not have known he would) the lynch would have defaulted onto tumble most likely. Thereby triggering the disaster scenario.
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On April 22 2016 01:15 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 01:07 gumshoe wrote:On April 22 2016 00:56 justanothertownie wrote:On April 22 2016 00:54 Rels wrote:Leaving work soon, will be on my phone all evening so no big post but I'll be around to react. I'm OK with Tumble / Onegu / JAS. Tumble is waaaay more likely to be scum though. The thing gumshoe bought up about Superbia & him being suicidal D1 doesn't apply for a few reasons: 1. Superbia was RB. Scum's #1 priority is to let him live. Superbia claiming to live over Tumble makes sense. 2. Tumble NEVER voted Superbia, even though he was "scumreading" him, to save his life; but he voted GB, who he had no real opinion on. 3. Reason 1 is true, but it's not even what happened. Here is the sequence of events: On April 17 2016 06:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Might just vote GB on principle though. On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote:
jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything. On April 17 2016 06:50 justanothertownie wrote:On April 17 2016 06:48 Palmar wrote:
jat who is mafia? I'll sheep you if you're at all confident in anything. Not really. Too many people who are just not invested in this game. On April 17 2016 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
I am sick and tired of having to decide day1 lynches. Voted GB, do what you want. On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
fuck it, I'm staying course on superbia. His rsoultin/gb read post was completely non-sensical, he's taking a lot of weird stances based on literal things without trying to diagnose what may be behind it (look at his thing about fazer. Unless fazer is a good/experienced player it's unlikely he'd admit to just sheeping people as mafia).
I think it's a good lynch. On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
his case on me was also terrible.
I encourage people to sheep me on superbia. On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote:
I can't make it any clearer than this right now. DO NOT LYNCH ME. On April 17 2016 06:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm down for yolo'ing onto GB. On April 17 2016 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:On April 17 2016 06:54 Palmar wrote:
his case on me was also terrible.
I encourage people to sheep me on superbia. Maybe I will. On April 17 2016 06:55 Superbia wrote:
I'm a PR you dipshits. During the minutes before Superbia's fakeclaim, it was quite evident that the fight evolved into Superbia vs GB, not Superbia vs Tumble. So he didn't killed Tumble by claiming, like gumshoe said. Actually it is the opposite. He didn't fakeclaim as long it was a "Tumble vs Superbia" fight, but as soon as it was "GB vs Superbia", he fakeclaimed. Ah, so I remembered correctly. Good job little minion. Shape+Tumble still makes a lot of sense to me and it also makes sense that they would kill rsoultin. yeah except rels is wrong -_- so yeah jat, when super claimed, there was one vote on gb and gb had LITERALLY just voted(wish time stamp gave the second XD). also this post to palmer (in response to plamer saying he would stay on super) Nope. Fuck you. which happened just before gb voted and implies he was about to claim. I can't make it any clearer than this right now. DO NOT LYNCH ME. the actual claim seems to support this chain of events as the "make it clearer" warning implies his earlier post was a claim, or at least a preamble to one. Super claimed knowing full well that if tumble was his scum part he just killed them both, it is not reasonable to consider a shenanie onto gb in that spot as a likely outcome as gb may very well have been about to get modkilled instead. point is, with only one vote from jat onto gb WHO AT THE TIME WAS ABOUT TO GET MODKILLED AS HE WAS NOT VOTING(or something, not sure how the rules work XD) Super made a move that would kill them both on the off chance that gb voted. also jat is just not scum with super, hes just not. Read their interactions over palmer and the day 1 lynch. I can go into it, but its just not scum on scum / : It is you who is wrong. 1) GB wouldn't be modkilled for not voting and I assume mafia knew this. 2) GBs vote therefore is not important for this whole matter. 3) It was clear that people would follow me (Palmar said he would sheep me and also said he wouldn't lynch tumble etc. etc.) once super was not happening and I wasn't likely to lynch tumble.
1: expecting town to jump onto a total lurker is a prayer, not a guarantee
2: gbs vote is important as that and his shit post are what really prompted the feeding frenzy
3 this points fair / :
Also just like to emphasize that rb means nothing here if tumble and super are scum. Seriously, getting a scum mate killed to preserve rb with claim is awful and should not be apart of the argument.
My problem with 3 is that it requires scum to be really good at rapidly internalizing the state of the thread, there had been six minutes between your willingness to kill gb and the rumblings of supers claim, it seems a little to quick of a span to write tumble off as safe / :
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But ok, I'll admit it is possible T-T
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Sigh, welp that means that unless onegu is the vig and he's massacring us as punishment, obi is telling the truth T-T
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