TL Mafia LXXIV: Storm Mafia 3

On March 22 2016 09:31 rsoultin wrote:


<3s rels

claim your playstyle change or i will lynch you d1!

On March 22 2016 10:16 rsoultin wrote:


lol i mean what are you changing your playstyle to? it doesn't count if you tell us after the game starts

On March 22 2016 10:23 rsoultin wrote:


> I was possibly distracted lol

good luck!

On March 24 2016 04:27 Damdred wrote:
Glhf I've already decided who I'm lynching today

On March 24 2016 07:53 gumshoe wrote:
Maybe I've missed an evolution somewhere along the line but slam seems to be actually trying as opposed to just flaunting his usual semi troll trot. Which isn't a point I'm going to level against him cause wow that would just be bad, but is of note for better or worse. Damdred is of course fishing as one would expect of ether side, words like interesting are rather neutral. A call to arms is also fairly vague, clearly he has notions of how peeps react to something like that, or mabs he's willing to play it by ear. His post feels cautious and calculated few words as it may be. Which could be scummy depending on his meta ( never played with him ) seems intelligent regardless. Parabola sounds like he just doesn't wanna get anyone on his tail but still wants to appear to be a present and beloved member of town. Could be scums, could just be excited to play, maybe he's bieng light to try to attract heat for said lightness thereby kick starting stuff. Multiple personalities can be envisioned from the posts so far, but there is no real leaning towards good or evil. As one would expect a page in to a game.

TLDR As of yet, nothing worth acting on outside of concert with more proof. TLDR for TLDR stuff is stuff

On March 24 2016 08:27 LightningStrike wrote:
So Damdred what you think of gun's opening post?

On March 24 2016 08:30 gumshoe wrote:


I have played with Slam 0_0 just not in a long time. The slam I know is kind of a derpy fellow, here he is being helpful. Hence noteworthy. If you wanna see that as malevolent crumbing then I feel your projecting a smidge / :

On March 24 2016 08:36 Shapelog wrote:
Sure. I do like reasons though so :C

Superbia: slightly town
Slam: Slightly town
Damdred: Null
Koshi:Nullz
Gumshow: Null

On March 24 2016 08:40 Shapelog wrote:

Shouldn't have been late. MAYBE I WOULD OF THOUGHT OF THINGS ABOUT YOU. ASDASDADASD

Nullz

Disregard the fact i was late by a hour ^^

On March 24 2016 08:38 Shapelog wrote:

Really do not care for self meta or meta in general. I look at database thou.
LS didn't help my likeness for meta.

3 sounds semi-attackish based off tone.

On March 24 2016 08:45 ritoky wrote:


damdred is probably not VT, burgeoning on almost certainly not. you might be VT.

On March 24 2016 08:47 Superbia wrote:


I am not VT.

On March 24 2016 08:51 Superbia wrote:


Might still be VT. But I'm claiming I'm not.

On March 24 2016 08:54 ritoky wrote:


re LS: assuming a conclusion before asking for clarification, bad mindset. potentially mafia mindset.

re damdred: his reaction to my role claim makes him unlikely VT. i don't usually post pictures without a point or for a laugh.

no further thoughts.

On March 24 2016 08:54 sicklucker wrote:


and what did this teach you?

On March 24 2016 08:55 sicklucker wrote:


ROFL the irony

On March 24 2016 08:54 Superbia wrote:


It's a dumb question. Here is my answer:

On March 24 2016 09:01 Kurumi wrote:

People should slow the hell down, I am astonished with the role talking and people manage to create another page of it.
I see nothing wrong with Superbia's early vote on gumshoe.
When did sicklucker say anything about gumshoe? He has vote on him and no posts to back it up.

On March 24 2016 08:07 sicklucker wrote:
I also agree that talking about slam is very scummy. I have never really tried to read him esp this early!

On March 24 2016 09:11 gumshoe wrote:


and of course the fishy bit of assuming why someone was making an acusation and passing off that assumption as fact / :
perhaps fishing for the actual reasoning or trying to come off as a kindred mind. It's quite peculiar to me.

50 50 scum for sure.

On March 24 2016 09:15 gumshoe wrote:


I know, I was refrencing sicklucker.

I think it's bizzare that your defending me with us having never played together before 0_0 a rare ocaison indeed. I would award townie points but hard to be objective about potential pocket monsters.

On March 24 2016 09:16 Kurumi wrote:


1. Then why did you try to make it look like there is any substance to your post?
2. Okay, but how is that a reply to my point about fishing being mafia-sided? Or that you are accusing Damdred of it, while he has not done that?
3. It does seem more of a process of incriminating others than your thought process. I see more accusations in this post than analysis.
4. Fine. There are many ways to enter a game. Making a post like this is not a town-way of entering the game. One this is to be pressured to post, another is to be pressured to post something of substance. Mafia is more prone to feel the second pressure, which I think your post has shown - it might look like it has substance, but under a second of thought it turns out to only look like it.


Thanks. Still, out of gumshoe's terrible post he decides that talking about Slam is the biggest indicator of gumshoe being scum? Where's the explanation sicklucker?! I disagree that talking about Slam is an indicator of being scum (in this case) - the way gumshoe has talked about Slam is an indicator of being scum. Huge difference.

On March 24 2016 09:51 Vivax wrote:


After agreeing with super on gum for the slamtalk SL already strikes bridges to LS alignment in a way I find myself agreeing with. LS is being timid and for some reason thinks it's too early for voting and looks up something irrelevant on gumshoe.

Reminder: This isn't IML , no reason to think any vote could be too early.

Scumlean LS and townlean SL.

On March 24 2016 10:01 Vivax wrote:


Kinda leaning town for this post cause of the first sentence. It has a bit to do with association, but it's the fact that it's a pretty dickish thing to say to someone I think is town. It's a weak read however, Damdy is far from a firm spot in the readbook.



The bolded is a bit suspicious to me cause it's like gummy is trying to tell us how much work he has done to reach his conclusion, which is something he would do to reach a favourable impression. There's also the possibility he wants to give it some sort of statistical reliability which is what he will claim when confronted with this but I believe it's not a townie thing to say, combined with his previous post.



LS said it was too early for a vote on gum before even reading his first post? Not cool.

On March 24 2016 10:22 ritoky wrote:


usage of "weird" and "odd"

assume a conclusion before asking for clarification

having no stated response or conclusion to the clarification

not thinking vivax noticing small details is townie

over defensive response to vivax pressure -> immediately to "you're like hf trying to ml me"

questions that don't lead to fruitful places

On March 24 2016 10:23 Tumblewood wrote:

Hi
You, SL, gum, and Superb have been yelling about stuff and I've glossed over nearly all of it, though there's probably something to be extracted from it. Damdred, Shapelog, Kurumi and ritoky were technically in the thread, but they've done very little. The only point I can kinda dig is Vivax's concerning gumshoe, which I think is valid to bring up, but gumshoe's claim isn't provably true or false. I want to see more (people and posts) before I make a judgment with any weight behind it, because any read in the first ten pages is usually wrong and I don't think my reads are starting any useful discussion. TL;DR not yet

On March 24 2016 10:28 LightningStrike wrote:
PS: I don't think Super and Gun are town but null on everyone else atm.

On March 24 2016 10:31 Tumblewood wrote:


All there is behind your [plural] reads is meta and straw-grasping, so I don't find it important. You saw gumshoe's first entry post where he rambled for several paragraphs and came to no conclusions? That's what it would look like if I tried to read those four players.

On March 24 2016 10:39 Tumblewood wrote:

Idk why you felt the need to justify your actions there; that wasn't an attack, nor was it directed at you specifically.

On March 24 2016 11:16 Kurumi wrote:


You are clearly trying to twist your errors so they fit your narrative. I've never called sicklucker scum. I only have said that his reason for voting you is:
a) nonexistent as in, he never gave his own reason for that
b) the one we can dig up from his one-liner is that he feels that talking about Slam early is scum-indicative, which I disagree.
As I said before, the way you talk about Slam is scummy, not the fact you have talked about him at all.
As you can see, I have my vote casted on nobody. Not you, not sicklucker. The reason? I believed that you might really be a Townie with a really weird approach, so I pushed you to give me an explanation for your actions. Your explanation so far was that you've done those things to do anything at all for the sake of not being accused of doing nothing. That is not a Townie perspective.

As for sicklucker, I still await his response. Can you be both scum? Sure, you can be. His vote has weight of zero, being so fast and based on a such dubious reasoning. There's nothing contradictory in a story where sicklucker votes for you because he sees you dun goofed and then he "changes his mind" based on your explanations. He voted in such a way it is very easy to unvote you. There was no case or explanation given. But that's not the story I believe in. I believe that sicklucker has laid down a weak vote because he could. Really, it doesn't require much to vote, I could vote anyone right now, especially a person who has not shown up yet and what happens? Nothing. Everyone knows that my vote is a weak one. I could pick a one line off someone's post this early, which is not strongly indicative and decide that's my reason for voting. It's a weak vote - everyone will see that. If he were to unvote you it would not say much to me, yet. But I believe he will be more dead-set on you after your follow-up play.

And I am not "setting up a lynch". You are doing it yourself. Setting up a lynch is enraging Kavdragon and pushing your agenda so Town agrees that his anger and his play is not Town-oriented. I want to lynch you based on what you have said and what you have done, not what explanations I give to people. I am not trying to create a narrative surrounding your actions: I am openly questioning them and your explanations, your own words, condemn you. After the initial "well I am a weak player, I make mistakes, oh well, but they were good mistakes! Ones to be done!" you go after me as if your previous actions did not take place. I called your behaviour into question, you have defended it, never explaining how are they not scum-indicative, but saying over and over that it's just you being bad. When I called you on your iffy reasoning for thinking people are scummy - you have not commented on that.

You have defended fishing as a townie thing to do. No, fishing (that is, trying to get a role read off someone) is not a townie thing to do. As a townie, you do not try to give information that mafia might act upon! What good can come from getting someone to claim VT or non-VT? None! None for a townie!

All in all, all you have done this game is post the way a scared scum feels like, admit to it, defend a scum agenda and try to paint me in a bad light. That won't pass. I am now voting you, because I am sure that you are Mafia.



It's Kurumi and I am a he. I have no idea what a bomb pop is and why it should matter. Yes, I do. I am very vary of ritoky, I like Superbia, LightningStorm. No idea what your sonic post was meant to bring to the thread. You seem to like the idea of gumshoe being town, but you have so far not done much to defend him or anything else. Why are you so careless about your town-read being the main topic so far?

On March 24 2016 11:44 Kurumi wrote:

Show me what I am unable to see. I might be tunneled, I don't really believe that, but maybe I am missing something. I mean, he is defending himself through attacking me - which doesn't rub me any townie way.

On March 24 2016 11:53 Kurumi wrote:


But that talking was for the sake of talking. That's why I am pushing him. Not being afraid is a natural thing here - he's now the topic, if he buries underground it will be even worse for him.

On March 24 2016 12:21 sicklucker wrote:


I have been scum with Ls like 2 or three times. I think this is his scum game so far. But its a very small sample size im only on page like 12. I Can read this kid better then anyone I think

On March 24 2016 12:36 sicklucker wrote:


ya screw that game

On March 24 2016 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
badumdum!

ise the bedrock on which you're built, the cog in the machine, the...awful rsoul who has only skimmed lol ><

prelim thoughts

- foil and ls = town <- dude, breaking meta? xP
- damdred <-> personality...i sees parallels! (pick me, pick me! unless you're a nasty personality :/ are you a nasty?)
- slam poss policy lynch viz a viz aperture or whatever the fuck that game was...no tricky this time @.@ guess we'll see at the 12hr tick...but if this is end the day early again dropkick time!
- rit...bleh me no likey, though tbh you suck at reading ls anyway so maybe that doesn't mean anything
- kuru holy wot batman o.0 that normal for this dude? don't think i've played with him before
- gum...seen posts like that from him before but i forget alignment...gut says nai

hnnnn

ye i can't remember anything else catching my eye...at least slam might be interesting when i wake up! \o/

On March 24 2016 12:43 rsoultin wrote:


-squints at-

well then i don't remember at all lol so prob JOAT...JOAT treated me like scum jat and shot me in the face :/

no one's foil ^^ i was referencing a post of yours, obscurely, cause that's how i roll

On March 24 2016 12:43 rsoultin wrote:


town points to anyone who sees what i see!

On March 24 2016 12:46 sicklucker wrote:


rolecop! =]

On March 24 2016 12:45 justanothertownie wrote:

Why? Don't you see what he is talking about? It is kinda obvious.
Even though this approach is silly since I can't imagine mafia doesn't have this information.

On March 24 2016 12:48 rsoultin wrote:


lol given i wasn't in that game, you can't say that i would have been duped that easily by awkward fake!rage ^^ nice try though

and you deserve to be slandered after your obstinance in carnival. just saying

On March 24 2016 12:47 sicklucker wrote:
ok ok ritokys confirmed town j/k you know why

On March 24 2016 12:55 sicklucker wrote:


Secret

On March 24 2016 12:58 rsoultin wrote:


you're my town friend ^^ -curls up with- but prob not my buddy

On March 24 2016 12:58 justanothertownie wrote:

Supposedly because of the car and the whole investigation around that. It doesn't actually confirm him though.

On March 24 2016 13:06 sicklucker wrote:


he took a line from your playbook

On March 24 2016 13:03 rsoultin wrote:


well then maybe you should get on that lol ><

anywhooo...have class tomorrow and don't need to spam this thread up more than i already have

word to the wise, rit...get useful ^^ my itch to lynch you isn't going away

On March 24 2016 13:16 sicklucker wrote:
Dandred is an expert at defending Ls when there scum partners. Truth

On March 24 2016 22:21 Rels wrote:
List of breadcrumbs:

On March 24 2016 22:28 rsoultin wrote:


@.@

really? cause i can buy doing this just to be a dick to palmar but i don't buy in a million years that rit of all people thought that his play was good or that he was achieving anything with it

like seriously >< i can look up which post was like duh duh duh obv what he was doing before he even claimed what he was doing when half the game hadn't even posted yet, but it definitely caught my eye

like, i've seen vivax do this sort of play with...oneg maybe?...i think in assassination, and it still wasn't terribly solid but he at least was being subtle enough about it and then using it to inform his reads that it was obvious that he at least was town making a play, even if the reads he was getting were unreliable

but the way rit did it absolutely never ever achieves anything here. like literally scum wouldn't even need the vt role name or whatever to see it if they had two brain cells to rub together, and the fact that rit has reversed his story now to say that no he was seriously trying to form a town circle with that? i call bs -_-

so seriously, what the fuck are you seeing that i'm not, damdy?

(tbf i agree on koshi though lol >< him stumbling all over himself was hilarious <3)

also obv it was slam and there's another obv that i'm not going to feed him ^^

-pokes at rels- hihi

oh, i think koshi asked about the ls read? it's basically the haha you high? type attitude when ls first gets scumread lol >< and no just cause someone says they're gonna change their play doesn't mean that you just throw out everything you know about them @.@ how many times have i said i'm gonna try to stop spamming?

On March 24 2016 22:32 Rels wrote:

no

On March 24 2016 23:10 Superbia wrote:
I think I recall lightningstrike being kind of waffly and not willing to commit his vote but still kind of scum-leaning gum? Am I correct in this?

On March 24 2016 23:13 Superbia wrote:


Oh hey, you show up when I call you possibly mafia.

I don't like that.

On March 24 2016 23:22 Superbia wrote:


All right. Still doesn't change the fact that I don't like it. ;p

On March 24 2016 23:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
ill be voting for rsoultin at any rate, half policy half read

On March 24 2016 23:50 justanothertownie wrote:

I don't have strong scumreads yet. There are a few people (ritoky and slam) who did blatantly antitown things which should mean they are mafia but sadly I can't rule the possibility of bad townplay out entirely.
Still slam needs to justify his shot.

You for example seem engaged and proactive which is usually a good sign but I have a problem with a some of your posts.

On March 24 2016 23:54 Rels wrote:

This seems like you opportunisticly posted that after JAT attacked this read.

On March 24 2016 23:55 Shapelog wrote:

idk, why are you so defensive all a suddenly when you have stated that you are usually misread day 1?

On March 24 2016 23:55 justanothertownie wrote:

This one:

The only thing I disagree with here is the LS part because he definitely did that haha you high thing as mafia before. The ritoky part is entirely true.

Also this one:

I was about to write something similar until I saw this post. You played with Koshi before. Everyone who played with town Koshi knows how he plays. It is very odd that you feel the need to ask questions like this.

On March 24 2016 23:55 Superbia wrote:
... Why are you defending me LS? x:

On March 25 2016 02:26 Koshi wrote:
Rels is mafia, the shut the fuck up is completely out of place and I saw him do that in Star Wars mafia. Wrongly called him town for that behaviour.

Kurumi his post is indeed good.

Both players get swapped in the list.

On March 25 2016 03:15 Tumblewood wrote:
Trying to catch up from my phone, but you're making a new post for every two I read.
I think one of Kurumi and LS is scum, because they were the gumshoe wagon starters (I don't feel comfortable scumreading either of the other two) and he was the target for a mislynch.
Also, all of you scumreading Slam for that shot are idiots. He was wrong, but he's obvious town because of it.

On March 25 2016 02:33 Koshi wrote:

Ohyeah. It was the game with the 2 scumteams

On March 25 2016 04:17 justanothertownie wrote:

Nope, sorry.

On March 25 2016 04:19 Shapelog wrote:

Sure LS! Give me a min.

On March 25 2016 04:16 Koshi wrote:
No I just said that

On March 25 2016 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:

Because 1) I will start traveling to my parents in about 15 minutes/will be on my phone only and 2) I don't feel like it. The things I wanted to say are all in the thread. That's where I am at so far. If I think someone should be lynched I will push that person and you will therefore know it.

On March 25 2016 04:32 ritoky wrote:
rsoul is mafia.

On March 25 2016 04:55 Shapelog wrote:

It is early in the game, so nothing really is solid solid other than a few people. Moved some people up and down on this list.

---

Slam -> I believe his claim. Also a day 1 shot only vig for scum kinda seems dumb. Even if he is lying about the day 1 thing, day vig for scum is weird. Plus i like bread.
Rik -> most likely town, i felt that the plan wasn't great and the hunting a bit weird. But I still find him townie.

SL -> Town lean because he feels more like SL from Devil than from Cell. TBH i haven't really dive him so it really is pure meta. I get around to it one of these days.
Vivax -> Town lean

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Some Nulls/unsure:
Super: Kinda move down because i need to read his filter passed the gum lynch points. I remember something about weird reads from him. I still like the points i made b4 about him quite possible being town. Just a dive would make me feel more confident.
Kumuni, i kinda want to put him the town section, because i find good things in him. But i like to wait for him to come back and post some more. Honorable town lean i guess? Nah Town lean, i feel like even with some lingering sus. on him i can give him a town lean. No, Making up my mind that i do want him to post more and flesh out other reads.
Koshi: I just don't feel sure on him. idk why tbh. Techically, everything he has done so far makes me want to town read him. But i don't. His Slam thing is a bit weird. But for sure, wouldn't lynch today.
LS:I do not think LS is scum, but i really cannot remember much of him. I know about the scum read -> town lean on gum but i forgot what he has done.

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Sus. people IMO

Rsoul: I can't understand her, and noone explained anything to me. i do not see how people town read 3 nulls, a p lynch, and 2 town reads. She did than go on and scum read tumble and rik(?) Now, i might be just scum reading her because her posts wants my brain cells to jump into a woodchip grinder and let the blood flow free.
She kinda also subtracted it seems from tumble since she perfered a slam/rik lynch. Kinda a bit opportunistic.
Tumble: Mostly because he was here and just defended himself instead of doing anything. Currectly still waiting for answers about the 2 hour gap and stuff. He seems a bit fluster too. Thought, he is prob. the weakest one here.

Doubt these 2 are scum together tbh.

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Sub division, people who i do not mind lynching.
VA: Posted something after the last post about the house of chuz. idk, he is pretty mellow. None of his posts have made me go "this guy is town"

OWS: Understand this guy might actually be busy, but posted 3 posts of value. 1 scum reading Rik for blue hunting (fair because i did so early on too) 1 town reading SL, and one supporting a Plynch. Prob. should move him into the sub division but i kinda expect more from him. Except from the Plynch though, he did come to the same conclusion i did about SL and Rik early on. Fuck it i move this guy to the sub division till he actually posts more.

Mr.Stutter: Here because i want him to post things to get a read on him.

Rels: I suck at reading Rels, All i ever want to do is scum read the living jesus out of him. half his filter was talk about slam, but when sl talked about slam, gloves were off. Like to flesh this read out and prob. dive a bit

Anyone who does not post and steal from the post jar.

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People i am currently investigating

Tubesock: was diving filter when you called. Ranked Rels and JAT higher than Vivax. Kinda odd to me since Rels really has done nothing IMO to be higher up on the town list than Vivax. No offense to Rels (or JAT for that matter) but Vivax is tryharding and actually trying to solve this game. idk, maybe i am just being bias because i think vivax is town.

JAT: Haven't dive him at all. Interacts i saw in thread were semi-aggressive, but i remember him being a aggressive person from outlaw QT.

Damdred haven't dive yet. interactions with him feel promising though.

On March 25 2016 04:56 ritoky wrote:
firstly LS, you need to stop taking and start giving if you ever want to even consider getting a town read from me.

it's pretty simple about rsoul though:

1) i find her game so far lacks real depth and any teeth. she has pretty much 2 reads: a) ritoky is mafia cuz he typed b) LS is town cuz he typed; the amount of players she is not evaluating or attempting to evaluate is too large. she isn't caring to look at 75% of the game and consider their alignments or push to learn anything about their alignments, her scope is too narrow.

2) she is not listening to her own read on me, which is to flip her read.

3) forcing a narrative instead of looking at a whole. primary example being that her primary scum read posted a giant post of reads which from what small indications i see in her filter, she actually agrees with quite a few of; but rather than elect to comment and evaluate the entirety of information before her, she pushes the same tired and false narrative.

4) reading LS town for old reasons. a player says "i am going to try to mess with my standard of play" and you meta read him town; i can't even. but beyond that LS has done nothing to warrant a TR from anyone. almost all he has done is ask continuation questions that aren't particularly pointed and take information without giving opinions of his own. she shouldn't ever be making that read based on his play thus far and shouldn't be making a meta read based on LS's pregame comments; so i think the read is a pile, which means both her reads are piles.

On March 25 2016 05:09 ritoky wrote:


okay? what does that have to do with my read at all?

On March 25 2016 05:18 ritoky wrote:
you see this is my problem with you right here and why there's a decent chance you're mafia. you're asking continuation questions but then not making definitive conclusions and you're sitting here trying to take as much information as possible without giving any. townies are givers at heart because it is all we got.

"explain pls" -> "irrelevant comment" -> "well it's okay, let me wait and get back to you later"; you concluded nothing about my or rsouls alignment from that question. this is not an isolated incident either, this is much of your filter. why ask the question if you're going nowhere with it? and shape makes a giant read post and your only thought is "explain SL" who he says pretty much "i can't properly explain this, it is meta"....that's all you cared about from that and you made no determinations about his alignment from it? really?

On March 25 2016 05:12 Shapelog wrote:

Mostly that read comes from him being more like devil than Cell. SaltShaker in cell seemed to achieve (getting Damdred to be mayor etc.) something than here
Idk, it not really one thing that sticks out, its more his generaliness fits what i know of him as town. Like i said i didn't dive him, but he feels townie.

Now, this is the part where you question me on why i am using a meta read.

On March 25 2016 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:

Oh I not going to question why you using a meta read I was just wondering because I honestly can't read him for shit because Linux didn't do nice things to me regarding sicklucker :\

On March 25 2016 05:30 Shapelog wrote:

Oh yeah, i remember that. That is what you also said last game as scum with him

I am actually quite surprise that you didn't catch it though.

On March 25 2016 05:37 Shapelog wrote:

Jeez man, i joking. I can't read Rels for shit either (well sometimes, depends of if he is being hateful or not)
Still didn't catch it thou.... Thought you knew me.

On March 25 2016 05:49 sicklucker wrote:


holy shit you have a read on me for the first time in after 30 games played together?

On March 25 2016 05:52 sicklucker wrote:
Man I want to lynch so many people I cant decide

On March 25 2016 05:54 sicklucker wrote:
no I understand but he came out and basicly said "why is sl a town read for you?"

Like why would he do this if he cant read me? It makes no sense. He would go sure ok i Have no idea thats what a town ls would do

On March 25 2016 05:54 Koshi wrote:
Pretty sure I should make it to D4 or D5. Afk till then.

On March 25 2016 05:56 LightningStrike wrote:

Koshi why you want to be so lazy? And besides you probably be lynched before that point if you just do nothing.

On March 25 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:
So Slam didn't have any stupid "you must shoot D1" rule apparently, or he would have claimed it.
So he's scum. There is NO reason to shoot someone hours into D1. Especially with the number of lurkers.
##Vote Alakaslam

On March 25 2016 06:30 Rels wrote:

This does NOT matter. What matters is there was no town motivation to day KP so early. But since he had to shoot D1 it could make sense maybe. Still weird he didn't shoot an inactive IMO but not confirmed scum.

On March 25 2016 08:05 Superbia wrote:
Yeah. Picture someone pretty damn tired sitting behind a computer going to sleep in the next x0 minutes. That's me. I really don't want to read through posts so I'm going to play from the top of my head (that's what I generally like to do either way).

Now let's revisit the gumshoe thing, all right? I had like this nice timeline but it's whatever.

Do you think there was scum pushing on gumshoe in hindsight? Before slam shot?

On March 25 2016 08:08 Superbia wrote:
All right, now that I have both your attention I want to continue the train of thought.

Everyone kind of agrees that gumshoe's post was somewhat scummy, and that it was an easy scum-push regardless of alignment. So I'm inclined to believe that -a- scum would pile on the push. Agreed?

On March 25 2016 21:38 Kurumi wrote:


Just woke up and read the thread. If my old meta read is still to be applied to sandroba, he seems to be town for the sole reason of posting chaotically and even carelessly today. I think mafia sandroba is a lot more calculated. But even without meta, I think that the way he approached being late to the thread looks very townie - he dynamically posted as he read the thread, giving his thought process and evolution of views on the way. As scum I think you'd rather come with a big post and solidified reads, so it's easier to twist them instead of procedurally create them. I want to have more of Slam as well, especially because it seems I was the one to convince him that shooting gumshoe is the shot to be made.
I need to get into rsoul and tumble better, did not pay the most attention to them.

On March 25 2016 22:17 Superbia wrote:
Everyone sticks around to see their role PM if you're around at that point, and if you roll town I expect you to make a witty remark after your pre-game scum claim.

On March 25 2016 22:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't know. Maybe.
It seems sorta tinfoil-y to me. I'll keep an eye on him I suppose.

On March 26 2016 00:17 rsoultin wrote:


if you're not third party you're extremely underwhelming, even for you on a d1 @.@

are you townreading shape?

also @ koshi...let me try to explain this in a way that makes sense, but tumble's town list is weird for scum in the sense that it doesn't really follow thread...shit...i forgot the word i hate this >< atmosphere? opinion? something like that, and it also doesn't just single out the really active players

like i don't really agree with a good portion of it, but it's still making me hesitate to lynch him

On March 26 2016 00:24 rsoultin wrote:


i'm not sick lol ><

i'm just back in school. tues and thurs are my heavy days and i'm not sure why you're making excuses for me anyway, tbh -_-

damdy just is very sideline which isn't completely outside his town wheelhouse, tbh, but i'm just not getting the clicks i usually do when we're both reading the same game...with a few exceptions here and there like our read on you

like it's an itch that he's too disinterested that could also be because he's been sick or it's just a large game, but that's why i thought maybe 3rd party...i'm not actually seeing anything that goes counter to his usual mindset in a game (which would have me riding him like rit) so def not lynching him today

On March 26 2016 00:26 rsoultin wrote:


do you really? should i give you a quiz?

there are several things that have been wrong in your posts about me ^^ maybe you should save yourself the humiliation of my pointing it out to you by actually giving enough of a fuck to read the posts of your own scumreads, and go point out your mistakes

i'm waaaaiiiiting ^^

On March 26 2016 00:30 rsoultin wrote:


o.0 i was a week ago? thank god illnesses don't last that long normally? -flicks-

who do you want to lynch, ls?

On March 26 2016 00:30 rsoultin wrote:


... lol you amuse me >>

On March 26 2016 00:32 sicklucker wrote:


let the record show sandroba is the only person on TL net ever to get me mislynched ever.... And it was a really stupid spot where he shouldnt have gotten away with it in some cell game

On March 26 2016 00:34 rsoultin wrote:


lol honestly everyone should lynch rit but i'm not terribly hopeful that this town can see past the pretty blinking lights d1 so i don't know how realistic a rit lynch is

i want to know where you are on your reads

On March 26 2016 00:59 sicklucker wrote:


ahhh..? did you just call me town? im shocked

On March 26 2016 01:42 Vivax wrote:


This might just be the reason for me not to just sheep someone today and lynch you.
I still will have to someday, to satisfy the need to punish your brother for the secret hitler game.

On March 26 2016 01:38 rsoultin wrote:


i think you're being duped by all caps ^^ you really shouldn't be given your play in cell >>

On March 26 2016 01:44 rsoultin wrote:


this i will accept...though tbf given how everyone kept calling me confirmed scum for scumreading my brother and refusing to vote him in, then shooting me in the face, i think we both suffered equally >>

On March 26 2016 04:43 sicklucker wrote:


you listeed towns and then put me at the bottom of a town list

On March 26 2016 04:49 justanothertownie wrote:

He won't be modkilled for inactivity in this game.

On March 26 2016 04:53 Damdred wrote:
No mod kills in this game.

I liked his thoughts and back and forth jat not exactly the reasoning. Anyone can post a case.

I don't know if I like a RS wagon today though.

On March 26 2016 05:31 Shapelog wrote:

You should vote Rsoul for the reasons i stated. the bigger question is, Who do you think you should lynch? Which player is the most scummist in your eyes and why?

On March 26 2016 05:53 Shapelog wrote:

Well do you find anyones play so far scummy? anybody you don't mind lynching?
Anything other than nulls or townreads?

On March 26 2016 05:55 Rels wrote:

This is way more smoother than your previous stance about her. What changed ?

On March 26 2016 06:04 Shapelog wrote:


roughly 6 of your town reads are "active people" Math states that at least 1 to 2 people. But lets ignore that.
LS what from Tubesock do you read as scummy. And if you feel like it, what are your thoughts on tumble/Kuru?

On March 26 2016 06:27 Shapelog wrote:

How many games have i played? 7 i think? W/e it is tumble has played 1 minus my total games played (I also have played with him in all his games) so 6 for tumble IIRC. Meta says he town.
Kuru i can understand.
Eh i can understand your tube reasoning. Though overall your read is kinda lackluster on him.
What do you think of him with his interaction with Kuru?

On March 26 2016 06:38 LightningStrike wrote:

Let me check his interactions with Kuru again.

On March 25 2016 06:38 Tubesock wrote:


I didn't skim your posts. I did not bring up your lack or reads so why the defensiveness? What I think your reads were is basically Superbia and Lightninstrike are town and ritoky and Gum were mafia. ALthough you didn't talk much about ritoky. Not nearly as much as Gum anyway. What do you currently think of Ritoky?

On March 26 2016 06:54 justanothertownie wrote:

Then you will be very disappointed.

On March 26 2016 06:55 Shapelog wrote:

What?
Kuru acussed Tube for skimming, you got it backwords i think?

On March 26 2016 08:00 Damdred wrote:
Hmmmm why am I in parenthesis jat you can be insulting if need be

On March 26 2016 08:08 Damdred wrote:
Ls who are your strongest town reads?

On March 26 2016 08:28 Damdred wrote:


Why kuru? And why so big a tr on koshi?

On March 26 2016 08:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
God damn it.

On March 26 2016 14:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Huh?

On March 26 2016 21:35 Shapelog wrote:

What makes you think we are going to come at you LS with pitchforks and torches just because Rsoul flips scum? Sure, people are prob. going to be lazy and go "Top level associative read, LS is scum with Rsoul." But i feel people like JAT (def), Damdred (he prob. look into it), Me (take this as you want), and a few others will look and not just mob lynch you.

Don't know why you are really worrying about it.

On March 27 2016 02:11 justanothertownie wrote:
We might have to lynch Koshi tomorrow. How sad.

On March 27 2016 02:38 Damdred wrote:
He's being so underwhelming ls do you disagree?

I still have a light tr on koshi but he's not his normal self at this point either.

On March 27 2016 03:20 Damdred wrote:
LS tell me something smart

On March 27 2016 03:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Tbh I'm kind of shocked that tube was actually lynched considering how horribly inactive I was. I think that tells us something about the scumteam in that they probably didn't care very much about either lynch, I.E. it's unlikely scum was up for lynch.

On March 27 2016 07:28 Damdred wrote:
Well life is easier don't you think ls?

On March 27 2016 07:30 sandroba wrote:
Because I pussied out. Also because there are no activity requirements and people are not going to get modkilled, so I figured spending the day lynching rsoul would be more productive than lynching one random inactive.

On March 27 2016 07:38 sicklucker wrote:
since there was no kps and me and jat (or both) were saves im off to afk lynch rstoulin and koshi

On March 27 2016 07:39 Damdred wrote:
They have two. Go on and say though SL I'm curious now.

On March 27 2016 07:52 LightningStrike wrote:
If the case is on me I will fight it and if the case is on Tina I will fight the lynch.

On March 27 2016 07:59 sicklucker wrote:


what if I told you I was protected last night and there was no kp. would you still think tina was o so innocent?