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sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 25 2016 20:14 GMT
#1201
oh you def a crazy payaso
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 25 2016 20:21 GMT
#1202
Guys who should I vote and why?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 25 2016 20:22 GMT
#1203
I'll be back in an hour probably
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 25 2016 20:31 GMT
#1204
On March 26 2016 05:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys who should I vote and why?

You should vote Rsoul for the reasons i stated. the bigger question is, Who do you think you should lynch? Which player is the most scummist in your eyes and why?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 25 2016 20:31 GMT
#1205
That should be the person you vote for.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 25 2016 20:44 GMT
#1206
On March 26 2016 05:31 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 05:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys who should I vote and why?

You should vote Rsoul for the reasons i stated. the bigger question is, Who do you think you should lynch? Which player is the most scummist in your eyes and why?

I don't think Tina is scum tone says town. Idk who to lynch hence why I asked.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 25 2016 20:53 GMT
#1207
On March 26 2016 05:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 05:31 Shapelog wrote:
On March 26 2016 05:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys who should I vote and why?

You should vote Rsoul for the reasons i stated. the bigger question is, Who do you think you should lynch? Which player is the most scummist in your eyes and why?

I don't think Tina is scum tone says town. Idk who to lynch hence why I asked.

Well do you find anyones play so far scummy? anybody you don't mind lynching?
Anything other than nulls or townreads?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 25 2016 20:55 GMT
#1208
On March 26 2016 04:53 Damdred wrote:
No mod kills in this game.

I liked his thoughts and back and forth jat not exactly the reasoning. Anyone can post a case.

I don't know if I like a RS wagon today though.

This is way more smoother than your previous stance about her. What changed ?
On March 25 2016 00:15 Damdred wrote:
I'm not giving a RS read yet because lynching her d1 isn't a good thing probably plus mafia will get tired of her spamming and shoot her anyway.

Lots of town reads so far its sort of surreal though super being bad towards me without any real reasoning is concerning to say the least.

LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 25 2016 20:57 GMT
#1209
On March 26 2016 05:53 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 05:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2016 05:31 Shapelog wrote:
On March 26 2016 05:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys who should I vote and why?

You should vote Rsoul for the reasons i stated. the bigger question is, Who do you think you should lynch? Which player is the most scummist in your eyes and why?

I don't think Tina is scum tone says town. Idk who to lynch hence why I asked.

Well do you find anyones play so far scummy? anybody you don't mind lynching?
Anything other than nulls or townreads?

Maybe Tubesock? Idk man I don't want to lynch Tina atm >.< To many inactives in the game some might be scum some might be town just wish they would post more for us to figure out their alignment
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 25 2016 20:57 GMT
#1210
On March 26 2016 05:10 sandroba wrote:
I'll keep my vote on rsoul. I'm going out now so I hope you guys lynch her.
The shapelog read which I questioned I don't think was ever explained properly. The ritoky read is apparently even stronger than I thought and it looks fake to me. Again she only believes he is mafia because his "plan was bad" and "ritoky should know better" "he is balsy enough to do it as mafia" which none of it actually means someone is mafia. She is actually ignoring very good posts by ritoky which should at least make you unsure about him being mafia :
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 04:56 ritoky wrote:
firstly LS, you need to stop taking and start giving if you ever want to even consider getting a town read from me.

it's pretty simple about rsoul though:

1) i find her game so far lacks real depth and any teeth. she has pretty much 2 reads: a) ritoky is mafia cuz he typed b) LS is town cuz he typed; the amount of players she is not evaluating or attempting to evaluate is too large. she isn't caring to look at 75% of the game and consider their alignments or push to learn anything about their alignments, her scope is too narrow.

2) she is not listening to her own read on me, which is to flip her read.

3) forcing a narrative instead of looking at a whole. primary example being that her primary scum read posted a giant post of reads which from what small indications i see in her filter, she actually agrees with quite a few of; but rather than elect to comment and evaluate the entirety of information before her, she pushes the same tired and false narrative.

4) reading LS town for old reasons. a player says "i am going to try to mess with my standard of play" and you meta read him town; i can't even. but beyond that LS has done nothing to warrant a TR from anyone. almost all he has done is ask continuation questions that aren't particularly pointed and take information without giving opinions of his own. she shouldn't ever be making that read based on his play thus far and shouldn't be making a meta read based on LS's pregame comments; so i think the read is a pile, which means both her reads are piles.

Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 05:18 ritoky wrote:
you see this is my problem with you right here and why there's a decent chance you're mafia. you're asking continuation questions but then not making definitive conclusions and you're sitting here trying to take as much information as possible without giving any. townies are givers at heart because it is all we got.

"explain pls" -> "irrelevant comment" -> "well it's okay, let me wait and get back to you later"; you concluded nothing about my or rsouls alignment from that question. this is not an isolated incident either, this is much of your filter. why ask the question if you're going nowhere with it? and shape makes a giant read post and your only thought is "explain SL" who he says pretty much "i can't properly explain this, it is meta"....that's all you cared about from that and you made no determinations about his alignment from it? really?


Now her new read is kurumi is scum which is a cop out. Kurumi is very unlikely scum in this spot, and besides his posting size nothing he actually wrote is bad if you cared to read it. It's kind of unprecedented levels of effort by kurumi and I get where he is comming from when he gets angry about people attacking him for putting an effort. I don't think rsoul has even bothered to filter her own scum read, as she accused shapelog of doing.
My vote stays.

You quoted a post explaining how rsoul is scum and another one explaining why LS, who rsoul townreads, might be scum. Why should rsoul read these posts and be like "I was wrong rit could be town" ?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 25 2016 20:58 GMT
#1211
On March 26 2016 05:55 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 04:53 Damdred wrote:
No mod kills in this game.

I liked his thoughts and back and forth jat not exactly the reasoning. Anyone can post a case.

I don't know if I like a RS wagon today though.

This is way more smoother than your previous stance about her. What changed ?
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 00:15 Damdred wrote:
I'm not giving a RS read yet because lynching her d1 isn't a good thing probably plus mafia will get tired of her spamming and shoot her anyway.

Lots of town reads so far its sort of surreal though super being bad towards me without any real reasoning is concerning to say the least.


People were talking about her more?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 25 2016 21:03 GMT
#1212
The lynch is in less than an hour, yes?

Where the fuck is everyone? Especially the two main wagons?
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 25 2016 21:04 GMT
#1213
On March 26 2016 05:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 05:53 Shapelog wrote:
On March 26 2016 05:44 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 26 2016 05:31 Shapelog wrote:
On March 26 2016 05:21 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys who should I vote and why?

You should vote Rsoul for the reasons i stated. the bigger question is, Who do you think you should lynch? Which player is the most scummist in your eyes and why?

I don't think Tina is scum tone says town. Idk who to lynch hence why I asked.

Well do you find anyones play so far scummy? anybody you don't mind lynching?
Anything other than nulls or townreads?

Maybe Tubesock? Idk man I don't want to lynch Tina atm >.< To many inactives in the game some might be scum some might be town just wish they would post more for us to figure out their alignment

On March 26 2016 00:49 LightningStrike wrote:
List of Town that I got from my filter:
Gumshoe: Flipped plus I was startign to get town vibes from him after some interactions with him.
Superbia: Despite falling off he still was pretty tryhard trying to solve the game.
JAT: Meta he pointing smart things and dumb things and exlpains why they are dumb or smart.
Koshi: Angry Koshi is Town Koshi from experience with him.
Damdred: Seems okay content wise not lynching him Day 1 just hope he would produce even townier rainbows.
Tina(rsoultin if people need her TL name): Guts and feeling says town on her tone.
Shape: Little spammy town maybe idk he kinda weird now that he played as scum but it feels innocent?
Slam: If I wrong on any of my townreads it's slam and he would probably be 3rd Party due to his role.
List of Null:
Lurkers: Duh although stutters had 1 post and not returned after that post.
sicklucker: Rip ability to read him.

roughly 6 of your town reads are "active people" Math states that at least 1 to 2 people. But lets ignore that.
LS what from Tubesock do you read as scummy. And if you feel like it, what are your thoughts on tumble/Kuru?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 25 2016 21:05 GMT
#1214
On March 26 2016 06:03 justanothertownie wrote:
The lynch is in less than an hour, yes?

Where the fuck is everyone? Especially the two main wagons?

Well Tube apperently has not interent serive at work, no clue when work ends for him.
Rsoul i am guessing is MIA.

As for the rest, idk.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
March 25 2016 21:06 GMT
#1215
*math states the at least 1 to 2 people might be scum when using 4 player mafia team.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 25 2016 21:07 GMT
#1216
On March 26 2016 05:57 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 05:10 sandroba wrote:
I'll keep my vote on rsoul. I'm going out now so I hope you guys lynch her.
The shapelog read which I questioned I don't think was ever explained properly. The ritoky read is apparently even stronger than I thought and it looks fake to me. Again she only believes he is mafia because his "plan was bad" and "ritoky should know better" "he is balsy enough to do it as mafia" which none of it actually means someone is mafia. She is actually ignoring very good posts by ritoky which should at least make you unsure about him being mafia :
On March 25 2016 04:56 ritoky wrote:
firstly LS, you need to stop taking and start giving if you ever want to even consider getting a town read from me.

it's pretty simple about rsoul though:

1) i find her game so far lacks real depth and any teeth. she has pretty much 2 reads: a) ritoky is mafia cuz he typed b) LS is town cuz he typed; the amount of players she is not evaluating or attempting to evaluate is too large. she isn't caring to look at 75% of the game and consider their alignments or push to learn anything about their alignments, her scope is too narrow.

2) she is not listening to her own read on me, which is to flip her read.

3) forcing a narrative instead of looking at a whole. primary example being that her primary scum read posted a giant post of reads which from what small indications i see in her filter, she actually agrees with quite a few of; but rather than elect to comment and evaluate the entirety of information before her, she pushes the same tired and false narrative.

4) reading LS town for old reasons. a player says "i am going to try to mess with my standard of play" and you meta read him town; i can't even. but beyond that LS has done nothing to warrant a TR from anyone. almost all he has done is ask continuation questions that aren't particularly pointed and take information without giving opinions of his own. she shouldn't ever be making that read based on his play thus far and shouldn't be making a meta read based on LS's pregame comments; so i think the read is a pile, which means both her reads are piles.

On March 25 2016 05:18 ritoky wrote:
you see this is my problem with you right here and why there's a decent chance you're mafia. you're asking continuation questions but then not making definitive conclusions and you're sitting here trying to take as much information as possible without giving any. townies are givers at heart because it is all we got.

"explain pls" -> "irrelevant comment" -> "well it's okay, let me wait and get back to you later"; you concluded nothing about my or rsouls alignment from that question. this is not an isolated incident either, this is much of your filter. why ask the question if you're going nowhere with it? and shape makes a giant read post and your only thought is "explain SL" who he says pretty much "i can't properly explain this, it is meta"....that's all you cared about from that and you made no determinations about his alignment from it? really?


Now her new read is kurumi is scum which is a cop out. Kurumi is very unlikely scum in this spot, and besides his posting size nothing he actually wrote is bad if you cared to read it. It's kind of unprecedented levels of effort by kurumi and I get where he is comming from when he gets angry about people attacking him for putting an effort. I don't think rsoul has even bothered to filter her own scum read, as she accused shapelog of doing.
My vote stays.

You quoted a post explaining how rsoul is scum and another one explaining why LS, who rsoul townreads, might be scum. Why should rsoul read these posts and be like "I was wrong rit could be town" ?

The main problem I have with this is that all sandro ever says about why rsoul is scum is that he disagrees with her scumreads. Which I find pretty unconvincing alone. Especially since ritoky has completely disappeared since his ridiculous fit about his stupid plan yesterday.
I think rsouls play is lacking severely by now and it's not a bad thing that she is a wagon at all but I would expect sandro to present more convincing arguments than this.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 25 2016 21:08 GMT
#1217
Caught up.
I don't want to lynch rsoultin.She's kinda underwhelming but she was also there talking about reads for a long time.
Tube on the other hand is a good lynch I think, I liked JAT and Kurumi's posts about him. Gonna filter him after that post to see if that changes my mind or not.
Still want to lynch ritoky too. For all the old reasons + he didn't do anything since. Like, it's really different from the town!ritoky I remember from two past games: I want to be a millionaire and ... nutcracker I think ? The one before outlaw. In those games, ritoky was challenging the thread with questions, and in nutcracker guiding the lynch towards someone scummy BUT while at the same time keeping the people he could read alive even if they were scummy. Like it showed a will to solve the game which is not there in this game; he did the plan and that is it.

Who I thnk is town in random order: Vivax, OWS, Kurumi, SL, Slam, JAT, Shape, Koshi, Tumble.
Who I'm OK lyncihng: tube, ritoky, Stutters, VA.
People I didn't list or I forgot are either null or slight lean one way or the other.

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 25 2016 21:08 GMT
#1218
On March 26 2016 06:06 Shapelog wrote:
*math states the at least 1 to 2 people might be scum when using 4 player mafia team.

I am guessing you are pulling that right out of your ass superbia style, yes? What's with people just assuming things for no reason recently? It's retarded.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 25 2016 21:10 GMT
#1219
On March 26 2016 06:08 Rels wrote:
Caught up.
I don't want to lynch rsoultin.She's kinda underwhelming but she was also there talking about reads for a long time.
Tube on the other hand is a good lynch I think, I liked JAT and Kurumi's posts about him. Gonna filter him after that post to see if that changes my mind or not.
Still want to lynch ritoky too. For all the old reasons + he didn't do anything since. Like, it's really different from the town!ritoky I remember from two past games: I want to be a millionaire and ... nutcracker I think ? The one before outlaw. In those games, ritoky was challenging the thread with questions, and in nutcracker guiding the lynch towards someone scummy BUT while at the same time keeping the people he could read alive even if they were scummy. Like it showed a will to solve the game which is not there in this game; he did the plan and that is it.

Who I thnk is town in random order: Vivax, OWS, Kurumi, SL, Slam, JAT, Shape, Koshi, Tumble.
Who I'm OK lyncihng: tube, ritoky, Stutters, VA.
People I didn't list or I forgot are either null or slight lean one way or the other.


We are not lynching VA. Stutters is pure policy and maybe we have a vig for him or something.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 25 2016 21:12 GMT
#1220
On March 26 2016 06:10 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 06:08 Rels wrote:
Caught up.
I don't want to lynch rsoultin.She's kinda underwhelming but she was also there talking about reads for a long time.
Tube on the other hand is a good lynch I think, I liked JAT and Kurumi's posts about him. Gonna filter him after that post to see if that changes my mind or not.
Still want to lynch ritoky too. For all the old reasons + he didn't do anything since. Like, it's really different from the town!ritoky I remember from two past games: I want to be a millionaire and ... nutcracker I think ? The one before outlaw. In those games, ritoky was challenging the thread with questions, and in nutcracker guiding the lynch towards someone scummy BUT while at the same time keeping the people he could read alive even if they were scummy. Like it showed a will to solve the game which is not there in this game; he did the plan and that is it.

Who I thnk is town in random order: Vivax, OWS, Kurumi, SL, Slam, JAT, Shape, Koshi, Tumble.
Who I'm OK lyncihng: tube, ritoky, Stutters, VA.
People I didn't list or I forgot are either null or slight lean one way or the other.


We are not lynching VA. Stutters is pure policy and maybe we have a vig for him or something.

Stutters is actually the ideal person for a Slam shot. Hopefully he's dealt with by a vig.
You towread VA ?
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