EPTyes I was like (lol ima vote this kid) but I obv read filters before I do that because im like obv town with 9x the filter of any scum game recently
TL Mafia LXXIV: Storm Mafia 3 - Page 32
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sicklucker
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yes I was like (lol ima vote this kid) but I obv read filters before I do that because im like obv town with 9x the filter of any scum game recently | ||
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sicklucker
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On March 24 2016 23:00 Kurumi wrote: Wasn't me. Dibs on Slam, he literally spammed the thread saying that he is going to kill someone. Also, bollocks. I really was wrong. I really was too harsh. I wanted to keep up with that and attack Koshi, but then he decided to play his Town game and break all the vows and rave around. So Koshi moved from a scum-leaning to town-leaning in my eyes. Play after gumshoe's death and his relentlessness about ritoky only proves that. Also, don't do the list only Koshi, because what I am doing right now is giving you a pass for now, not forever. As for ritoky: Holy shit dude, your plan... wasn't that... great. Yeah, you've done that and I believe you, but that brought a lot more harm than anything else. As a person who has hosted games and has played in fair share of them, not only hosts give the Vanilla Townie name (and sometimes more) they also offer fakeclaims for every role under the sun. Your argument that revealing VTs would create an impossible-to-combat Town Circle is also wrong, because, well, your assumption was that people who know the name will behave accordingly... which is people being VTs and Mafia. I think your play is more indicative of a naive townie than a scum. If you were scum, you'd be more blunt about the claim. Maybe claim the name in some disorted way, maybe hint it more strongly, I have no idea, but for sure you'd try to fish for someone disagreeing with you. Another slight-town read. Back to Slam. If he were Mafia and that was a Mafia shot, all I'd see now should be "LYNCH KURUMI" and it is not the case. So it means the shot was not used as a means to incriminate me or cast doubt, or leverage it in any way. While I was not the only one voting gumshoe, I was the person pushing the hardest since the very first post of mine. Is there a chance that Slam was bluffing/trolling/whatever and Mafia decided to use that to kill Shoe and let the responsibility for the kill just land on Slam? There's no one on Slam either, yet... So it seems that this kill went through without any group agenda, leading me to believe that it was Town KP, be it Slam or anyone else. It just lacks follow-up, both ways (against me and against Slam) have not been taken by anyone. I think Slam is town. So that's it for the current things. I will look up shoe's filter and wander around in thread as well, because I need another shot of Scumus Readus for both this shift and another or I'll goddamn die. good post | ||
Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
Kurmini and Gumshow, I am debating rather or not this is actually town v town or Scum v town atm. Kumini thing about fishing is a tad bit weird when you consider his response to Riks. fishing. Holy shit dude, your plan... wasn't that... great. Yeah, you've done that and I believe you, but that brought a lot more harm than anything else. As a person who has hosted games and has played in fair share of them, not only hosts give the Vanilla Townie name (and sometimes more) they also offer fakeclaims for every role under the sun. Your argument that revealing VTs would create an impossible-to-combat Town Circle is also wrong, because, well, your assumption was that people who know the name will behave accordingly... which is people being VTs and Mafia. I think your play is more indicative of a naive townie than a scum. If you were scum, you'd be more blunt about the claim. Maybe claim the name in some disorted way, maybe hint it more strongly, I have no idea, but for sure you'd try to fish for someone disagreeing with you. Another slight-town read. Vs this before the flip You have defended fishing as a townie thing to do. No, fishing (that is, trying to get a role read off someone) is not a townie thing to do. As a townie, you do not try to give information that mafia might act upon! What good can come from getting someone to claim VT or non-VT? None! None for a townie! I wonder if Gum flipping town made Kuminini change face due to the fact that he tunneled onto the gum. Which goes along with how he phrased his last post. About being apologetic and stuff. His anger, to be fair, was brought on by the fact that Gum either dodge some questions (see 1st response from Gum, point 2,) and from the confusion it seems about SL. Kumini tone is a bit aggressive here though. Which is prob. the reason why i hate to call it town on town here. Points sounded at times like a attack than a questioning. But it was dropped as he flipped (not just on gum, but on others.) I would like to see Kumini expand a bit also on his reads. So far he really on has focused on SL, Gum, and rik. With a meta read on Koshi. I have been questioned by him also, and await a follow up from him. Something feels off with their interaction. idk, maybe it is just my gut fucking up again. His last post also felt townie minus the bold. I also do like this from Kuminini though upon looking in his filter: On March 24 2016 08:53 Kurumi wrote: No role discussion, unless you are Scum and are benefiting from it, damn you! Ritoky, why bring VT thing in the thread?! Tumble: Eh it was there but didn't do much despite (i am guessing here) getting town vibes from Gumshow being lynch bait and focused a tad bit on the wagon. I feel though, that i want him to come back and answer the 2 hour gap in posting and his thought process (as iirc, this is not the first time he has done this) Annoyingly his timezone is pacific and so i rarely get to interact with him. Super: Super was the main starter on the wagon (obv.) He done some weird things, but, he literally admitted to frabcating (I am using fracbacted because he littlearly said he made it up to push Gum) the troll thing on Gum. Why would scum ever do this? Other things. like driving discussion and such makes me think he is town. He is even going the extra mile and looking into the flip townies filter. Some reads a bit weak/off though. Still like him | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On March 24 2016 23:07 Superbia wrote: Who wants to talk to me about the push on gumshoe/timeline? I'm too lazy to run through the whole thing myself atm. Someone give me some motivation. Starts like this: 1. Superbia starts push on gumshoe for bad opening post and some troll-bullshit. 2? Sicklucker joins push. 4? shapelog calls superbia out for troll-bullshit. - shapelog has gum as null - shapelog has superbia as lean-town I mean it makes you slightly more likely to be mafia because he was town..? maybe? But you were also willing to push early which is a town trait its not like as mafia you would expect gumdrop the be a wagon from 1 hour into the game untill the last. Your post about koshi was good im sure you pocketed me again see you at final 3 | ||
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Shapelog
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sicklucker
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Shapelog
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On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote: Good morning. Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky. Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending. I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked. As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean. Ritoky probably is in fact VT. Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation. Yeah the fishing thing is weird. some of his posts though rubbed me as town. (totaly did not quote this for just to use the blending song) | ||
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sicklucker
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
On March 25 2016 01:52 Rels wrote: can you shut the fuck up and wait for Slam to either claim his role or fake it Irony. + Show Spoiler + On March 25 2016 00:56 Rels wrote: Slam apparently knew when his shot was going to land: And posted 25 minutes before it happened: So him no staying up to see what the guy he shot flipped is super weird. On March 25 2016 01:01 Rels wrote: Yeah it was before. That post where he is like "mm I need to make up my mind" is the last thing he posted. On March 24 2016 22:21 Rels wrote: List of breadcrumbs: On March 24 2016 22:30 Rels wrote: His explanation doesn't make sense with his actions I think but I want to talk to him. I don't have any solid read on anyone, jumping on gumshoe wagon or not. Strongest town I have is Koshi and Vivax. ritoky and Slam's actions don't make sense so I want to see if they can explain it. On March 24 2016 22:37 Rels wrote: It was bad unless Slam HAD to shoot somebody today or something like that. On March 24 2016 22:57 Rels wrote: Slam might be town because of the way Palmar balances his games: Which is "regulate balance by giving guns to town". At the very least, he is very likely town if we find out later that there is no other town KP. | ||
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sicklucker
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On March 25 2016 00:15 justanothertownie wrote: I don't have a town circle at all (I also do not have a solid townread on Koshi yet - however your read on him is completely irrelevant for the argument that you are asking questions you shouldn't need to ask because those are about his general play and not his play in this game). So no, she is not super high in there. I am not stupid enough to townread rsoultin this early in the game. My point is that I do not see why anyone would scumread her for what she has posted so far. You aren't automatically scum for going after her. That depends on your reasoning. u mad? | ||
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LightningStrike
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Damdred
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Anyway not much interesting is happening so far shape looks a bit more town he had some ok thoughts at least. | ||
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Koshi
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Kurumi his post is indeed good. Both players get swapped in the list. | ||
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Vivax
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It will take me another day of facepalming at some posts (which is going to happen at night when I dream myself headbanging my keyboard) before spelling out all the wrong that has been happening since the gumshoe shot. The suspicion on Koshi Kurumu and LS remains unchanged but also unupdated in part. The tryhard mode will be back tomorrow, superbia is officially kicked out from my townreads into the something category (still no lyncherino on D1 tho). The gross picture is that a bunch of people base all their content around actions and roles which is something you never never should do as town, and do as much as possible as mafia cause it gives you an excuse for every read you need to have without having to think about making up something complex. Just pick the side you wanna be on and slam your fist onto the table yelling "this is how it is", and ready is the boshit cannon of shitty opinions everyone starts giving in reply. It has always been like this with dayvigs. Prplhz in personality 1,2 or something shooting Bugs impersonating Chezinu and I was sure he was mafia for the shot (ofc he was town), but no matter who was right the shitstorm was secured. Learn from your mistakes and just disregard anything that happens around actions as something alignment indicative. If anything consider anyone who takes advantage of it (like Koshi) to be particularly suspicious. Vivax news off. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
On March 25 2016 02:19 sicklucker wrote: I think Ls is scummy. I also think dandred is scummy. I also KNOW a scum dandred would hard defend a scum Ls and probably a town Ls too. SO lets start there since I have an oddly good town circle Yes lets start by you giving us reasons upon which you find them sus. other than they can defend one another as either aligment. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On March 25 2016 02:26 Koshi wrote: Rels is mafia, the shut the fuck up is completely out of place and I saw him do that in Star Wars mafia. Wrongly called him town for that behaviour. Kurumi his post is indeed good. Both players get swapped in the list. Ugh he was town in Star Wars. That was your last scum game you silly goof ball  | ||
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sicklucker
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On March 25 2016 02:25 Damdred wrote: SL bad at reading me as usual. Anyway not much interesting is happening so far shape looks a bit more town he had some ok thoughts at least. so much so much has happened and you still dont have a "read" on me | ||
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Vivax
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On March 24 2016 19:34 Koshi wrote: Ok. See I thought you didn't shoot him but after reading your post another time while my blood was boiling with pure hatred I might have jumped to conclusions. So you retract your shot. Ok Fine. Slam did you shoot gumshoe? ofc he will be afk for 12 hours so w.e I did. Thought about retracting it a few times but his three opening posts kept haunting me. Dammit. I need to read up. | ||
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sicklucker
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On March 25 2016 02:28 Shapelog wrote: Yes lets start by you giving us reasons upon which you find them sus. other than they can defend one another as either aligment. Ls saying its too early to vote his own scum read. Dandred having him at the top of his town list is something I know a mafia dandred would do regardless of Ls's role. ALso him not even mentioning me when me /ls.dandred were just mafia together and im so obviously different this game and town. | ||
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