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On March 28 2016 11:46 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2016 11:24 Tictock wrote:On March 27 2016 04:20 Damdred wrote:
I think there are three options really to how the wagons happened.
1) town vs town mafia just did whatever and are spread out and aren't very active.
2) town vs mafia. Rs is only real active mafia the others are in the dnv list.
3) town v mafia all other mafia but rs are on tube saving her.
There's lots of different scenarios but just how the thread feels it feels more like one where mafia isn't trying to disrupt the thread and cause as much chaos over a mislynch.
I could be dead wrong and probably are but it's just a feeling atm.
Ows what do you think who are scum? I can agree that these 3 scenarios are most likely, I'm also wondering if Kuru were scum if his teammates might have been pushing his voters. Though, Day 1 Final Votecount
Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi , Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin Kinda looks to me like scum was piled on Tube to save Rsoul... your reads are kinda awful ^^ i mostly skimmed your post earlier, but you have rit and myself as scum together which is pretty tinfoily at best, i can forgive the ls read even if it's awful cause meh ls he's gonna get scumread whatever and kuru and i as scum together...so basically you've decided that your scum team is completely bussing one another from d1 for no good reason? explain this
I didn't say you two were on a team, you were both scum leans but I'm sure not on the same team given how your going at each other. Though since this setup could be multi-faction you could both be mafia (on opposing teams) or some kinda anti-town.
I'm not trying to build teams at all, just reading individuals.
Also why do you give me a pass on scum-reading LS but not Rit?
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On March 28 2016 11:59 rsoultin wrote:
or are you just interacting with yourself ^^ cause if so i'd appreciate you not spamming everything as you demonstrate that you can read
I read this.
Feels like slander...
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On March 28 2016 13:01 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2016 12:58 Tictock wrote:On March 27 2016 11:40 sandroba wrote:On March 27 2016 11:15 rsoultin wrote:
Ye. I get an item at night and then I can choose to try to make it work at any phase. Then it has a 50% chance of working, so if I were to try to make it work this phase I'd know what it did during the night phase How likely you guys think it is that palmar introduces this kind of variance to the game for no particular reason? I mean some person has to invent something give to the other who can use it the next phase and it has only 50% chance of working and you only know what it does after you use it, you don't even know if whoever invented it is town or not. Idk about palmar, but I played in a game recently where you got gifts, you had to unwrap at night, then could use the w/e it was the next night. Gifts were given randomly to town and mafia. So not unheard of. It's kinda a weird role, but then what SL is claiming is a bit unusual as well. It's also sounding like this game is loaded with blues (2 vigs, a flipped investi-type role, Vet-ish, 2 Engi's, +probably one other Protective), so some weakish off roles makes sense. Also Koshi has a solid point that the same role might be given to both town and mafia. So no I don't find her role too unreasonable, and I'm not sure why scum would make up such a weird and complex role either. So either way she is probably telling the truth about what her role is but I'm not sure if it makes more sense for there to be 2 town engi's to play off each other or a counterplay engi on opposing factions. To bad that you got caught because of you using that gift by Shape and later me 
Actually Shape caught me delivering Faction KP on accident when he thought he was watching who would visit his top town read... (he mixed up tracker and watcher), The gift was a Gunsmith ability and I gave the gun to Tube. Your check was the nail in my coffin
But we would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you damned meddling kids!
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On March 28 2016 13:08 rsoultin wrote:
>> so he's not a coward just literally posting at people not here...still
tiiiiiictooooock
i poked through your scumreads at least and they weren't as bad as i thought they'd be, but i find it pretty dumb that you agree with me on my scumreads but still call me scum ^^ not considering that you're claiming the scum team is basically all bussing each other is okay if you're just making reads, but retarded if you're then applying it to vote analysis
i'll look at the rest of your reads tomorrow but i'd still like to know what you think is actually going on here given your reads
also, regarding this point people keep bringing about engineers from multiple factions...
it's a bit stupid tbh to think that the host would have one alignment invent and the other "unwrap" even with a coinflip's chance of being able to use the item, which is why i assumed the other engineer had to be town or at least 3p and tried to search for him
i know y'all desperately want me to be scum and all cause it's easy to say ^^ but you're gonna have to push another point and commit to just not believing my claim rather than inventing bastard host roles plzthx
Don't whine kus I haven't read your crap yet.
You actually make a fair point about the Engi roles, assuming you are telling the truth. They sound fairly weak so I could see a pair belonging to town, could sorta act as balancing role if town is doing poorly.
Tbh I'm tempted to believe your claim and am more concerned with the 3 vig type roles, I feel like one of them is probably mafia. Torn between Slam and Kuru, Sand seems so towny and his claim was upfront and simple.
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On March 28 2016 13:56 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2016 13:47 Tictock wrote:On March 27 2016 20:40 Vivax wrote:
Today TickTock lynch is best lynch. He is sligthly being like me when I roll scum, plus he scumreads both other wagons from yesterday which is picking low hanging fruit at its finest.
Plus he townreads me so hard and Vayne and Tumble whom I both gave reasons to TR are null for him and he doesn't bother at least referencing to my posts where I do that. Just because I think you are town does not mean I agree with all your reads. Also ... the irony of wanting to lynch me for scum reading "low hanging fruit" >.< (how are Kuru and Rsoul low hanging fruit?) How are kuru and rsoul low hanging fruit? How are kuru and rsoul low hanging fruit? How are the two most pushed still-alive players low hanging fruit? I don't know, you tell me.
So because someone pushed on them before I should leave them alone?
Both are pretty active and experienced players, usually low hanging fruit is referring to low-volume posters, afk players, or people who are know to be bad at defending themselves.
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Wow, caught up with the game.
Only took me... 4 days? Not too shabby, gunna reward myself with a break.
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Just finished pg 98, not sure I like all of these responses from Rsoul, but they aren't terrible.
Heres the thing SL, her breadcrumbing looks legit. I definitly believe that she has the role she claims she does, the question is if Engi's would be opposing (of different alignments) or both town sided. Given the description of the role I'm inclined to believe that both Engi's would be town. Of course we only have Rsouls word about the nature of her role...
Besides her claim I'm not seeing much that really convinces me that Rsoul is town though.
Right now I'm thinking the lynch should be on one of Rsoul, Slam, or Kuru. Slam is kinda tempting simply because I fell like he's been getting some undeserved town reads that make no sense to me, plus the stuff I pointed out rgarding his shot.
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On March 29 2016 03:17 Palmar wrote:
Announcement:
Alakaslam has been replaced by scott31337 effective immediately
Welcome scott.
Though tbh I'm not thrilled about this replace, a lot of people are going to let the slot slide now simply because of it and Scott is usually a low volume poster so I'm not sure the replace is gunna help us read the slot better.
I'm more than happy to see scott prove me wrong though.
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Accidentally posted this in voting thread.
On March 29 2016 05:45 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2016 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 2 Votecount
Koshi (4): sicklucker, justanothertownie, Superbia, sandroba, Vivax
rsoultin (4): sicklucker, sandroba, Koshi, ritoky, Alakaslam, sicklucker, Vivax, Tumblewood
Tumblewood (4): VayneAuthority, ObiWanShinobi, Damdred, Koshi
Kurumi (1): rsoultin
sandroba (0): Alakaslam
Tictock (0): Vivax
Superbia (0): Koshi
Not Voting (5): Kurumi, Rels, Tictock, Shapelog, LightningStrike
Day 2 ends in .
Notification: Some countries are affected by the DST. The deadline will remain the same in UTC.
Still catching up, but if these are the lynch options I'm inclined to vote Rsoul. Koshi is a terrible lynch, but his wagon looks like it's probably pure... Actually the Tumble wagon could be pure as well, need to read why people are voting him though.
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On March 29 2016 04:59 Vivax wrote:When I see this I really start to doubt myself. I should probably just have kept pushing the TickTock lynch, he was clearly around a few hours ago and now he still didn't cast a goddamn vote after even posting his candidates.
Well yea, I want to wait till last min to vote Koshi. It would look weird if I vote my townread this early.
I'd actually preffer to lynch Slam and maybe Kuru, but neither of those are gunna happen. So I'm debating between Tumble and Rsoul.
Right now I'm not sure I see Tumble being scum, but I also gave him a pass way too easily last game so I want to get caught up and filter him before I vote.
I'm also not sure why you are so tunneled on me, you just think I'm trying to mimic your afk style of scum play?
Kus you know, I've seen that work WONDERS for you...
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On March 29 2016 05:08 Kurumi wrote:
Okay, so obviously I voted Koshi. I guess no additional comments are needed from me on this topic. I hated the sicklucker/rsoultin exchange and sicklucker spam, jesus christ, what was that?
I think JAT, Superbia, Dam, Shape, LS and sandroba are OK. Ticktock has said he believes rso on the basis of crumbs, but has for some reason not seen me crumbing Koshi as someone I want dead since the very first post (also, the rendez-vous part...) so I have no idea what the hell happened there.
I have no idea why VA pops in just to propose Tumble as a lynch without pushing him hard enough given the time we have left.
OBS is sceptic enough for me to believe he is on the town side.
Scum list:
Koshi
rsoultin
ritoky
VA/Ticktock
Ritoky is too apathetic and my old reasons still are here, as for his question: you'd like to know what happened to my bullet, friend. You'd like to.
I believe sandroba's claim, I believe that Slam is Town, rso could be a fifth party planar dragon for all I care.
Any questions?
You think town has 3 vigs? I find that really hard to believe.
I thought your claim was pretty bad, it looked like you were fishing for protective roles to claim or something. True idk why you would claim a shot on Koshi as scum when he didn't die as it just looks weird, but thats really just WIFOM.
I also still find it odd you think Rit and Rsoul are on a team and have been hard bussing each other most of the game.
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On March 29 2016 05:29 rsoultin wrote:
pues, i still want a kuru lynch
his tube read seemed ridic fake, and the fact that when i pointed that out people jumped down my throat makes me feel he's even more likely scum
not lynching koshi, btw ^^
Humm, this makes me thing Rsoul is town. Making an effort to start a new wagon (and on someone who I also think is scum) when she is in real danger of being lynched here. Much easier for scum!Rsoul to go, "Yea that koshi/tumble fellow sure is off, lets lynch him"
Fuck it, I think her claim is good and now I'm starting to consider her town for other reasons.
Koshi is still a terrible lynch, I'm gunna vote Tumble.
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Skimming Tumble's filter just in case:
Didn't see anything that made me think he's town. Some of his posts about the Gum wagon and how certain he was that Slam is town feels off to me. There was some other wierd stuff like in one post he basically says "I haven't read a lot of what's been posted, but want to see more posts so I can make better reads"
Feeling fine with this lynch.
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Oh fun, there might be shenannies on me.
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Do it guys, I'm prob not getting any better, and I'm not gunna fight it.
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On March 29 2016 06:54 Superbia wrote:
TT you've been lurking!?
I've been reading and posting for the last 2 hours?
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On March 29 2016 06:55 Damdred wrote:
Why shouldn't I lynch you though Tt if your town you are going against wincon
Nah, I've read the game and shared my thoughts.
Not like you guys even have a case on me or anything, just attacking me kus I'm underwhelming.
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Well played shape, was worried for ya going into this lylo but you played it off pretty well.
Sorry to my team for playing like shit.
Thought it was hilarious that everyone thought Koshi was scum kus I town read him too easily (I honestly just thought he was obv town). And then Jat and a few other people were convinced Kuri and I made some plan to play off a save on Koshi. Totally wrong premise, but you all reached the correct conclusion that Kuri was scum.
Tbh I kinda think SL and Super played better than Mafia did. If shape hadn't started killing them off 3p prob would have won, maybe.
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On April 16 2016 12:58 Alakaslam wrote:
Ach sss! This is my fault hijole
Not sure why you would say this because your slot got lynched in LyLo.
Scott made a small mistake in kinda ignoring Damdred (though I can kinda understand with the "modconfirmed" status Damdred had) in LyLo, and that lead to Damdred WIFOM'ing himself.
Shape also played fence-sitter fairly well.
Though I suppose your shot was pretty scum sided. Seemed like you let OMGUS convince you to yolo shoot right away when you would have been better off holding off, or even bringing your shot into a public discussion (something simple like "If you could shoot someone right now, who would it be?").
Other than that I thought both you and Scott played the slot just fine.
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