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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 19:59 GMT
#4533
On April 04 2016 04:57 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2016 04:48 Shapelog wrote:
Hmmm.
On April 02 2016 07:10 Superbia wrote:
2 kp through medic save means roleblock or double stack. Which indicates 2nd mafia team. But that can't be possible.

Why can't that be possible....

Unless...

I solve the game. Super is mafia, and there is a second mafia team. The above was a slip, it SHOULD be possible, with 3 kp, and 2 on the medic target, that a second mafia team exists. In fact he lists the reasons on how it could of happen but yet turns around and says it is not possible.

Therefore,

Super is mafia on a second team.


i don't agree with this at all....like wat? the kp suggests 3kp or 2kp + prot bypass. i can understand the case for 2 mafia if you believe 2kp + prot bypass, but 3kp -> 2 mafia? no comprendo.

i don't think superbia is an awful lynch though, i haven't touched his filter, but he has been around and not doing a whole lot recently.

On April 02 2016 07:10 Superbia wrote:
2 kp through medic save means roleblock or double stack. Which indicates 2nd mafia team. But that can't be possible.

Ik, and he said that RB was a possiblity. Therefore, he should beleive that second mafia could be possible, even in his mind if it is like .00001%
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 20:07 GMT
#4541
On April 04 2016 05:01 Superbia wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Look at night actions n1 to see why 2nd mafia team is impossible


I don't even know why I came back.

Becuz you love us.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 20:23 GMT
#4559
Yeah i feel more confident now super.
Know why.

+ Show Spoiler +
Your freaking out.


I mean you can sit there, yell into the thread. It will not help anyone if you are town or scum for that matter. Instead maybe, maybe, stop calling people dumb, blah blah blah, and relax.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 20:26 GMT
#4565
I got 1 and a half hours,
you got 1 and a half hours,
Convince me why i shouldn't vote you and do so in a manner that I can take you serious. Not this stupid "shit players" thing either.

Like your happy and free when no one is going after you, yet the moment someone wants to vote you fly off the handle.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 21:05 GMT
#4590
On April 04 2016 05:25 Superbia wrote:
Then tell me why I am scum

+ Show Spoiler +
Cuz i am a cop and i checked your ass last night.
...
April foolz

No there is mutiple things i find wrong with you.

First:

I find that after D1 and 2 your not so much trying to get town to figure out the major stuff. Sure you have speculated about KP, roles, what you have done, but it really is WIFOM. It is what i would think a mafia member would do to look like they are contributing.

I mean the way you were on D1 feels very very different than now. You went from trying to get info, making traps etc. to, well this.

You dropped and basically been coasting IMO.

Second:

I kinda refreshed the page so
On April 04 2016 05:28 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2016 05:23 Shapelog wrote:
Yeah i feel more confident now super.
Know why.

+ Show Spoiler +
Your freaking out.


I mean you can sit there, yell into the thread. It will not help anyone if you are town or scum for that matter. Instead maybe, maybe, stop calling people dumb, blah blah blah, and relax.


I am not relaxed. I have not been relaxed since EoD1. I feel like town has been made out of donkeys. I am actually extremely annoyed. From the way I see it, I should be on one of the very last spots in the lynch list. Primarily from the fact that when I was active, I have been mainly pressuring and voting mafia.

O Rly?
Tell me than, if you are so concern about the town being made of "Donkeys" then why the fuck have you spent time talking about MTG (good game) and other shit? Shouldn't you be trying to be a savior of the town?

And if you are annoyied, since EoD1 then why have you been shitting jokes like nagging falls?

I mean this ties into number one, you see a problem, but instead of fixing it or trying to convert people(?) you just have been sitting back and joking around till someone pokes you.

On March 31 2016 20:53 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2016 20:45 sandroba wrote:
On March 31 2016 20:37 ritoky wrote:
sandroba who are your top 2 non-kurumi mafia reads? you can explain if you want, more interested in the names though.

erm
Not considering setup, teams or anything I think VA and tumble are both suspicious.
I'm interested also in what superbia is eventually going to claim and the resolution of the damdred thing.
prob just need to wait for kurumi to flip and see if he is indeed part of rsoul/tt team which I kinda doubt tbh. If he is their strat was bus each other since d1 when there are 2 teams and that seems very silly.


I'm claiming mystery role 'x'.

I am claiming mystery role 'y'.

Third
Your not actually solving the game since Rsoul flipped. And if you are counting your KP discussion, then you should remember that your buddy talking to you about it was IIRC Kuru. The guy who claimed scum.

On April 04 2016 01:20 Superbia wrote:
I'm gonna go off a bit of a rant here. Mostly because I want to chill with my gf tonight so I won't be around to play.



It's pretty simple: Anyone who wants to lynch me is a fucking idiot.

I have fucked confirmed mafia in the ass throughout the game. And possibly fucked a town (Koshi), who has been mafia-siding throughout the game.

So you have to believe I am 3rd party. Yet I openly discuss 3rd party KP previous day and was the one who brought it up. Actively promoting the fact that rso was shot by third party to deny kurumi his claim. Which is pretty much the dumbest play ever as 3rd party. Like what would be my plan there? Put me on the map to take down a mafia? Who just got fucked in the ass the previous day/night? nice_play.exe

I played a lazy town game. I'm continuing to playing an even lazier towngame. That's it.

I want to lynch:
- Tumblewood (everyone seems to want to lynch this guy but no one actually seems to want to lynch this guy).
- Obi (tunneled on me for no good reason)
- VA (meh).

- One between:
--- Ritoky (maybe 3rd party)
--- Koshi (if Ritoky ends up being town/more town, for mafia siding so hard/being so wrong throughout the game)

- Maybe lightningstrike (but probably can't).


So, you know. Probably follow my reads if you want to win the game as town.

Ok so page 21, a list of reads. the 1st few paragraphs are defense from you.
2 out of the 3 are omnithought of as lynch targets, minus a person or so that might think different. the one that is not super popular is one based on OMGUS located in the post the next page over.

Not only that, but your reasoning to wanting to vote VA in tis post was "meh" to say the least.

Your last page of content not revoving around KP discussion or popular thread ideas are this from page 20:
On March 31 2016 06:12 Superbia wrote:
I have overlapped my current townreads with the votes (underlined = flipped, italics = read):

Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1 Final Votecount

Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred
rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker
Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin
Tumblewood: (0): Koshi
ritoky (0): Koshi, rsoultin, Koshi
Alakaslam (0): Koshi, Rels
Damdred (0): sicklucker
sandroba (0): Tubesock, Koshi

Not Voting (4): Stutters695, TicTock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood


Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 2 Final Votecount

TicTock (9): Vivax, LightningStrike, Shapelog, Rels, Damdred, ObiWanShinobi, Koshi, rsoultin, Tumblewood
Koshi (5): sicklucker, justanothertownie, Superbia, sandroba, Vivax, Kurumi, Tumblewood, sicklucker
rsoultin (2): sicklucker, sandroba, Koshi, ritoky, Alakaslam, sicklucker, Vivax. Shapelog, Tumblewood, Vivax
Tumblewood (2): VayneAuthority, ObiWanShinobi, Damdred, Koshi, Vivax, TicTock, rsoultin
Kurumi (0): rsoultin
sandroba (0): Alakaslam
TicTock (0): Vivax
Superbia (0): Koshi

Not Voting (0):



Which leaves me with the following lynches:
- VayneAuthority
- ObiWanShinobi
- LightningStrike
- Tumblewood
- Kurumi

Of these, I do not want to lynch Kurumi today.

Some notes:
- Sicklucker's vote timing on rso makes it so he's pretty much never with rso.
- I had no initial read on shapelog, but his interactions on the rso train d2 are pretty damn town (was adamant on rso, then switched to TT quite naturally).
- Koshi's wagon on d2 actually looks almost completely town. Especially if Kurumi (and to an extend TW) ends up being town. This definitely needs some looking into when more flips are known. KEEP THIS IN MIND. I am likely wrong on either someone voting on Koshi or on Koshi.
- VA has been voting superearly on scummy people (one confirmed in RSO), but I generally cannot remember the explanation. Could be some soft distance. Would like to know from people who usually play with VA.
- I don't think TumbleWood is in the rso/TT team. But I do think he could be independently mafia (3rd party/whatever).
- Obi was teaming up with Koshi and Vivax during n2 to pressure me. While Koshi's read has progressed naturally, Obi's pressure is nowhere to be seen.
- LS is mainly POE. I don't actually have a good read on him this game.
- Sleeper mafia/third party would likely be either Rels or Ritoky. But this is tinfoil for later.

Whats actually funny here is that you seemed to forgot the reason why obi looked sus to you in favor for a OMGUS read. Like you could of gone, "ok i find this sus, let me check his filter. Check filter. Here are X, Y, And Z posts that support A"

But you didn't you have just degrade into this:
- Obi (tunneled on me for no good reason)

On April 04 2016 01:44 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2016 01:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Super, who exactly is mafia and why?
Come up with cases and stuff because this ranting isn't going to do anything for me.


Oh I don't care. You're probably one of them. Your presence has involved siding with a PR on a town (me). Then afking through yesterday (don't even recall what you were doing). Then continuing the push today. Tumblewood is nowhere to be found which indicates he's not interested in the game anymore. Which is pretty shit play if you're one of the last left. Either way he's playing a losing game. But you know, he has to be flipped at some point.


like who goes "I think you are scum, but I ain't going to case you." Like you can't even stay on that topic of OWS being scum in that post, you redirect it into tumble.

You even frenking contricit yourself by saying tumble's activity would make for a shit mafia play. And that hes got to be flipped. Its not like Rik's or anyone elses who actually have a nice text body on the guy.

You basically, again, coasting.

[b]Third and a half[b]
You slipped sson.
On April 02 2016 07:10 Superbia wrote:
2 kp through medic save means roleblock or double stack. Which indicates 2nd mafia team. But that can't be possible.

Even if you take into account the N1 actions (which really do not matter in the end here)


Damdred supposedly stopped a shot on JAT?
Sl supposedly stopped a mafia KP?
Sand Shot.
Kuru carried Kp that got stoped.

Even if you did not believe the claim from SL, that is still 2 KP. If you beleive all claims, then it is actually 3.
N2, Jat and Vivax died, rsoul died.
2 kp, with something happening with Rsoul dieing either by invention or kp or whatever,
Last night.
3 Kp or 2 kp and RB.

IT LINES UP unless Jat was not shot by mafia and saved by damdred.

So that is a moot defense.

But really, you go "Hmmm, here are possible things that could happen that could happen" -> "would mean we have 2 teams" -> "impossible for 2 teams" in one post. Only POV that works in is as a second mafia team.

Which means.
[spoiler=off topic but important]
which means, if you are actually 2nd team, then where in the hell did that shot/rb come from. Obv it was not from your team (yes i am making that assumption.) so somewhere a person rbed or shot at Rels.
hmm.
[/spoiler]


I think your scum because of this.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 21:10 GMT
#4594
On April 04 2016 06:09 Superbia wrote:
I don't even know what you wrote shape, but it annoys me. =/

Da fuq?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 21:13 GMT
#4599
On April 04 2016 06:10 Superbia wrote:
I understand that you may be coming off on a high on your kurumi case. But you just gave mafia a reason to vote. =/

Wait wait wait,
you haven't read it, annoyied with it. and are going to turn around and say it is wrong and that mafia is going to sheep me.
ok,.
wait, let me bus this out.
[image loading]
oops wrong one
Eh i find it later.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 21:14 GMT
#4601
On April 04 2016 06:10 Damdred wrote:
I will say it's possible only two kp happened n2. I don't think it's worth talking about yet and only conjection but possible

Yeah ik, but something had to happen to kill Rsoul.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 21:15 GMT
#4603
On April 04 2016 06:12 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2016 06:10 Shapelog wrote:
On April 04 2016 06:09 Superbia wrote:
I don't even know what you wrote shape, but it annoys me. =/

Da fuq?


It's wrong. =/

Are you going to read it and comment on it and tell why instead of saying nope it is wrong?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 21:17 GMT
#4605
On April 04 2016 06:14 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2016 06:10 Shapelog wrote:
On April 04 2016 06:09 Superbia wrote:
I don't even know what you wrote shape, but it annoys me. =/

Da fuq?


Sorry. I understand you expect some great rebutal or some victory for nailing scum, but I poured all my thoughts/energy into my "wall" already.

I'm not going to be able to fully respond to your case nor do I really want to. I wanted to go to sleep 15m ago.

Dank prank making me explain my sus on you just for you to leave me like that.
How could you bae?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 21:22 GMT
#4606
On April 04 2016 05:25 Superbia wrote:
Then tell me why I am scum

On April 04 2016 05:25 Superbia wrote:
^ to shape.

On April 04 2016 06:14 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2016 06:10 Shapelog wrote:
On April 04 2016 06:09 Superbia wrote:
I don't even know what you wrote shape, but it annoys me. =/

Da fuq?


Sorry. I understand you expect some great rebutal or some victory for nailing scum, but I poured all my thoughts/energy into my "wall" already.

I'm not going to be able to fully respond to your case nor do I really want to. I wanted to go to sleep 15m ago.

[image loading]
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 21:28 GMT
#4613
I actually do not like his (tumble) knee jerk vote here.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 21:30 GMT
#4616
Like as soon as i said something about it, he jumped onto it...
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 21:41 GMT
#4631
On April 04 2016 06:23 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2016 06:15 Shapelog wrote:
On April 04 2016 06:12 Superbia wrote:
On April 04 2016 06:10 Shapelog wrote:
On April 04 2016 06:09 Superbia wrote:
I don't even know what you wrote shape, but it annoys me. =/

Da fuq?


It's wrong. =/

Are you going to read it and comment on it and tell why instead of saying nope it is wrong?


I think I covered a fair amount in your case in my "wall".

I just read it over and here are some general points of rebuttal from what I recall:
- n1 wouldn't have been 1 town KP (now confirmed town KP) if there are 2 mafia teams. Ever.
- Trailing off is not alignment indicative of me.
- I loathe filters and huge posts. I have said this before and will continue saying this. I started off my mafia career checking all filters all the time but have grown more lazy over time. This is mostly due to the fact that my gut-reads are almost always correct. What ends up happening is the following:
- I usually recall things from the top of my head, and I don't end up double checking them in thread. The inconsistencies you point out on my read on obi are minor and due to this- The mindset behind it stays the same, but the textual explanation is a little different.
- I always have to reverse-logic together why that person is scum to convince town. Usually this is not that hard to do when I have the energy, but when I'm lazy/tired, I just prefer to call them scum. Sometimes with a shitty/lazy reason. Sometimes with none.

points 1, 3, 4, 5 were not covered or did not meet shapelog standards. And those are low standards.
anyways,

Yes ever, theoretically if both SL and Damdred and vivax did their jobs, Kuru carried to koshi and was rbed by vivax, Sl taking a shot, damdred healing Jat who got hit. If all those are true (or even 2/3s), then it IS possible for that senerio to do that.

Sadly lost the ability to argue that meta does not matter this game b/c tumble. And your point is fair here.

following what? anyways, i do not understand how reading has to do with providing content. If you do have gut reads, you should be like a koshisus and shoved it down peoples throats. It might explain a bit, but you should IMO have more.

So it is minor that you went from "Obi is sus. due to this voting thing i found." -> "obi is sus. because he tunneled onto me" -> "Obi is sus. due to OMGUS reasons?" Maybe this is a playstyle choice though so i let it slide.

I mean, i also have crazy wackworld convincing methods. And i do not mind it. What i do mind however is if your lazy/tired for multiple cycles and pages of filter.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 21:42 GMT
#4637
On April 04 2016 06:34 Superbia wrote:
Where the hell is Obi? Where the fuck did he go after "that wall wasn't too bad".

He was tired and wanted to go to bed.
Nah,
IIRC it was something to do with your read on him or he was sus. of it or something.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 21:44 GMT
#4639
On April 04 2016 06:41 scott31337 wrote:
I'm consolidating, sheeping my bud Shapelog. At page 224 had a lot of drinky fun last night

CTS here, also since when was i your buddy? and if i am, Why did you not invite me to to drinky fun!
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 21:46 GMT
#4646
On April 04 2016 06:44 Damdred wrote:
Shape your wrong about super I think

Well you better change my faith in the next 15 mins buddy because apparently i have 2 votes due to scott.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 21:48 GMT
#4651
Like i am hard on super here.

This wallowing is extectly what i did in XIX lylo to avoid scott sus. he is doing a poor pitful me.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 21:51 GMT
#4656
On April 04 2016 06:49 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2016 06:48 Shapelog wrote:
Like i am hard on super here.

This wallowing is extectly what i did in XIX lylo to avoid scott sus. he is doing a poor pitful me.


You're too tunneled in.

It is because i am right.
Caught you fucking slipping sson.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
April 03 2016 21:52 GMT
#4658
Your pulling a poor pitifully me here super. I know it.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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