hmmm that is true. But they can't fakeclaim.
I don't understand how Vivax didn't push rsoultin harder tbh. He knew the roles are double.

And he trusted me even when I was saying rsoultin was cofirmed town. lol.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

March 30 2016 13:43 GMT

#3422

On March 30 2016 22:40 Koshi wrote:

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3 vigis is just on the brink of possible.

I just find it really hard to believe that there was a mafia KP on SL or Stutters n1.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

March 30 2016 13:44 GMT

#3423

On March 30 2016 22:41 Damdred wrote:
Why is SL getting shot so low when he was pushing scum RS all night/day?

Did this happen? Tbf I don't really look at SL's actual post content that much. x:

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

March 30 2016 13:44 GMT

#3424

I'm assuming kurumi shot rsoul, since I didn't. That theory that all roles have counterparts is a very silly thing to cling on and derive reads from. 2 roles have counterparts, that's all we know. Palmar probably did to prove a point that role =/= alignment.
Enough about that nonsense and let's talk about how VA is scum.

Rels

France13467 Posts

March 30 2016 13:45 GMT

#3425

On March 30 2016 22:43 Koshi wrote:

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They do and they did. I'm pretty sure one of the night vig is scum.
Maybe day vig doesn't have a counterpart, but one of kuru and sandro is scum.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

March 30 2016 13:45 GMT

#3426

Kurumi has to claim the shot then.

I have no idea where this guy is. Doesn't he have any interest in the flip if he were actually town vigi.

I recall rso bringing up the same point, ironic.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

March 30 2016 13:46 GMT

#3427

On March 30 2016 22:43 Superbia wrote:

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I just find it really hard to believe that there was a mafia KP on SL or Stutters n1.

I think sl might have soaked up a shot. But I don't think he is town. 3p for sure.
medic, rb and multiple shot veteran? Kinda too much. Especially if they are all town. I wonder if rb can stop mafia kp... Probably not I guess. Would be really good. But then why is there a town rb? Maybe vs the engineer or the enemy rb.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

March 30 2016 13:46 GMT

#3428

VA definitely needs to come in and vomit town or be lynched though.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

March 30 2016 13:49 GMT

#3429

On March 30 2016 22:46 Koshi wrote:

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Nah, pretty sure SL is town. Shared my reads pretty much throughout the game and has been very... "fluid".

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

March 30 2016 13:50 GMT

#3430

Though to be fair, if it becomes clear there is a second mafia team or third party, lots of people need to be looked into anew.

Rels

France13467 Posts

March 30 2016 13:51 GMT

#3431

##Vote Kurumi
We'll see what he says.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

March 30 2016 13:52 GMT

#3432

On March 30 2016 22:51 Rels wrote:
##Vote Kurumi
We'll see what he says.

I will join this first.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

March 30 2016 13:57 GMT

#3433

bbl

Rels

France13467 Posts

March 30 2016 14:02 GMT

#3434

Glancing at filter size from the database sandroba is definitely on the town side of his meta. Can't comment on quality of posts, I played only in melee with him and I don't remember much from that game apart from the rage that VE endgamed it.

Rels

France13467 Posts

March 30 2016 14:04 GMT

#3435

With the same measure, Kurumi can be a low volume poster as town or as scum so it doesn't point to anything one way or the other.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

March 30 2016 14:08 GMT

#3436

pretty sure that if kurumi didn't shoot rsoultin, slam or va is 3rd party. Very maybe sicklucker.
sk with a vest and possibility to hold shots. Which is the most op SK ever. Or maybe SK that has to shoot once each cycle in case for slam.

Rels

France13467 Posts

March 30 2016 14:11 GMT

#3437

Slam shot during the day D1 so it doesn't match. SL could be SK with vest that held his shot N1.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

March 30 2016 14:12 GMT

#3438

forensic expert might have been a role that invests dead guys no? Might have been the guy who looked for the 3p as town.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

March 30 2016 14:12 GMT

#3439

On March 30 2016 23:11 Rels wrote:
Slam shot during the day D1 so it doesn't match. SL could be SK with vest that held his shot N1.

Yeah. Maybe sk that can dayshoot lol. Kinda extremely farfetched but hey...

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

March 30 2016 14:13 GMT

#3440

so as far as the voting analysis/timing of the votes this is what I got.

Tumblewood - Votes rsoultin when he could have voted koshi instead to fight his wagon. 90% town basically, would be a super weird play if he wasnt, so bad its good territory.

Kurumi - On the flip side, he looks terrible from this perspective. He drops his vote on koshi and pretty much peaces out. Doesn't have any interest in the rest of the wagons, 2 of which are confirmed scum. Would explain a lot where some of mafia's KP was day 1 too.

Shapelog - looks pretty good. Votes rsoultin during the tumble wagon gaining speed and then switches to tictock when it is not a throwaway/bus vote. 95% town

Sicklurker - Does the same thing as Kurumi pretty much, ignores all other wagons drops a vote on koshi and thats it. It's unlikely both sicklurker and kurumi is scum but one 100% is.

Damdred/Obi - Pretty much the same person in terms of day 2 voting. They both follow early on the tumble wagon and then vote tictock pretty super late when it would probably be rsoultin/tictock lynch anyway. Hard to know what to make of it. Probably one scum here as well although less confident.

LS/Rels - legit wait to the last second to vote tictock and waited to see how the wagons played out, pretty obvious who I think is more town here. I really wouldnt be surprised at LS being scum , is there any case on why he's town?

So mafia - Kurumi, damdred/obi, LS.

makes sense numbers wise as well.

Now going to look at who thought JAT was super townie, probably gonna take a while