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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 28 2016 21:14 GMT
#2321
Good thing I went to reread Koshi, I'm reasonably sure he's actually town now. His early behaviour is much better (=in line with his town play) if I overlook his thread entrance which looked scummy initially.

Sooooooo, time to find the replacement lynch.

##Unvote

I know you probably want to know what exactly and why but I don't have time to explain, I need to decide the better lynch.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 28 2016 21:14 GMT
#2322
I just got home and I see Tina,Koshi ,and Tumble are up for lynch. Ugh I don't Tina to be lynched that for sure. Idk about Koshi and Tumble lynches. This is hard to think who would be scum ebtween tumble and koshi....
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 28 2016 21:15 GMT
#2323
On March 29 2016 06:06 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 04:59 Vivax wrote:
Not Voting (5): Kurumi, Rels, Tictock, Shapelog, LightningStrike


When I see this I really start to doubt myself. I should probably just have kept pushing the TickTock lynch, he was clearly around a few hours ago and now he still didn't cast a goddamn vote after even posting his candidates.


Well yea, I want to wait till last min to vote Koshi. It would look weird if I vote my townread this early.

I'd actually preffer to lynch Slam and maybe Kuru, but neither of those are gunna happen. So I'm debating between Tumble and Rsoul.

Right now I'm not sure I see Tumble being scum, but I also gave him a pass way too easily last game so I want to get caught up and filter him before I vote.

I'm also not sure why you are so tunneled on me, you just think I'm trying to mimic your afk style of scum play?

Kus you know, I've seen that work WONDERS for you...


you'd prefer to lynch two people scumreading me but you actually have to debate between me and tumble? when i'm pushing one of the lynches you want? yeah this makes sense
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 28 2016 21:17 GMT
#2324
On March 29 2016 06:14 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 06:06 rsoultin wrote:
On March 29 2016 06:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe I am annoyed that in a game with a very very hard playerlist from a town pov even the few usually reliably towny players are either not willing to play or mafia? I might also be annoyed by the fact that this is clearly a themed game that was sold to me as normal and that we don't even get to read the role pms of the dead people which is a huge boost for mafia.


yeah take a breather

and look at my kuru points please. least you can do if i'm plumbing the entire fucking database here -_-

What Kuru points are you talking about?
The fact that he wasn't around after the flip? Doesn't convince me.


okay let me find it...basically both his scumreads read super strained, first with gum which after tube pointed that out he went all postal on tube
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 28 2016 21:17 GMT
#2325
On March 29 2016 06:02 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky wutu think bout these wagons?


i think my opinion on rsoul has been pretty clear. it has softened a bit....not sure if to the point where she's anywhere near my town, but to the point where i am willing to consider seeing what she does/claims to do with the item and re-assess again after.

koshi i said was my yolo lynch, but that's like 30% omgus, 70% when he started yelling at me it didn't feel like full fledged town koshi rage. but i think those are pretty bad reasons tbh.

tumblewood....does anyone think he is town? i don't. he is kinda LHF, but i don't think there's particularly anything in his filter that makes me think he is town.

i think looking at the votes currently, i am vastly more comfortable with the people on tumble and koshi than on rsoul...i only think me and sl are town on rsoul which is pretty sketch....i also am not enthralled by the non-voters. i might move my vote, not exactly sure where yet......

as a side note, rels having a case against him and being afk the entire phase but getting 0 lynch traction reinforces my belief that there is a strong likelihood he is mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 28 2016 21:17 GMT
#2326
On March 29 2016 06:14 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got home and I see Tina,Koshi ,and Tumble are up for lynch. Ugh I don't Tina to be lynched that for sure. Idk about Koshi and Tumble lynches. This is hard to think who would be scum ebtween tumble and koshi....

Ok, this is your last chance to explain to me why you write stuff like the bolded before I call bullshit on you. Why are you so sure that she is town?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 28 2016 21:17 GMT
#2327
On March 29 2016 06:17 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 06:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2016 06:06 rsoultin wrote:
On March 29 2016 06:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe I am annoyed that in a game with a very very hard playerlist from a town pov even the few usually reliably towny players are either not willing to play or mafia? I might also be annoyed by the fact that this is clearly a themed game that was sold to me as normal and that we don't even get to read the role pms of the dead people which is a huge boost for mafia.


yeah take a breather

and look at my kuru points please. least you can do if i'm plumbing the entire fucking database here -_-

What Kuru points are you talking about?
The fact that he wasn't around after the flip? Doesn't convince me.


okay let me find it...basically both his scumreads read super strained, first with gum which after tube pointed that out he went all postal on tube

You saying kuru could be scum for the way he scumread gum and tube?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 28 2016 21:19 GMT
#2328
On March 29 2016 06:05 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 06:04 Koshi wrote:
On March 29 2016 05:53 Vivax wrote:
Koshi if I spare you will you revert to your normal town self or are there circumstances that make it impossible, like you being mafia or rl issues?

This is my normal town self. So if you can't handle this in the future pls lynch me now.


What happened to the "idc I'm going to play diablo" thing?

Still playing. Dnu why it is bad that I am actually here though. Easier I guess to misslynch me when I am away.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 28 2016 21:20 GMT
#2329
On March 29 2016 06:07 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 06:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe I am annoyed that in a game with a very very hard playerlist from a town pov even the few usually reliably towny players are either not willing to play or mafia? I might also be annoyed by the fact that this is clearly a themed game that was sold to me as normal and that we don't even get to read the role pms of the dead people which is a huge boost for mafia.


I feel the same way tbh. Like I can't ever think you're mafia in this game because if you are I have no fucking idea who the town are or what they're doing.

The buddying is real. As if you are "annoyed". You havn't don't shit yet to try to actually solve this game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 28 2016 21:20 GMT
#2330
On March 29 2016 06:17 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 06:02 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky wutu think bout these wagons?


i think my opinion on rsoul has been pretty clear. it has softened a bit....not sure if to the point where she's anywhere near my town, but to the point where i am willing to consider seeing what she does/claims to do with the item and re-assess again after.

koshi i said was my yolo lynch, but that's like 30% omgus, 70% when he started yelling at me it didn't feel like full fledged town koshi rage. but i think those are pretty bad reasons tbh.

tumblewood....does anyone think he is town? i don't. he is kinda LHF, but i don't think there's particularly anything in his filter that makes me think he is town.

i think looking at the votes currently, i am vastly more comfortable with the people on tumble and koshi than on rsoul...i only think me and sl are town on rsoul which is pretty sketch....i also am not enthralled by the non-voters. i might move my vote, not exactly sure where yet......

as a side note, rels having a case against him and being afk the entire phase but getting 0 lynch traction reinforces my belief that there is a strong likelihood he is mafia.


I think rels is likely never VT. But I'm not entirely sure, usually his mafia game is pretty strong.

The fact that the tumblewood wagon formed so quickly despite the fact that multiple people soft defended him d1 makes me meh. I'd rather lynch koshi and see where his flip leads us.
Minimal effort.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 28 2016 21:20 GMT
#2331
On March 29 2016 06:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 06:14 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got home and I see Tina,Koshi ,and Tumble are up for lynch. Ugh I don't Tina to be lynched that for sure. Idk about Koshi and Tumble lynches. This is hard to think who would be scum ebtween tumble and koshi....

Ok, this is your last chance to explain to me why you write stuff like the bolded before I call bullshit on you. Why are you so sure that she is town?

First her tone this game seemed happy at first and when peopel pissed her off she went into her normal kinda bitchy tone at people. Second she did hardcore breadcrumbed her role which I kinda overlooked at the time I thought she was having some fun with slam I mean why would she breadcrumbed so fucking hard if she was scum? #rd she going after targets no one would go for which reminds me of Carol where me and her tried to stop the Holyflare(scum) lynch and lynch the people we wanted to lynch.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
March 28 2016 21:20 GMT
#2332
On March 29 2016 06:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 06:14 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got home and I see Tina,Koshi ,and Tumble are up for lynch. Ugh I don't Tina to be lynched that for sure. Idk about Koshi and Tumble lynches. This is hard to think who would be scum ebtween tumble and koshi....

Ok, this is your last chance to explain to me why you write stuff like the bolded before I call bullshit on you. Why are you so sure that she is town?


^
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21978 Posts
March 28 2016 21:20 GMT
#2333
So I think the purest wagon of the two between rso and Koshi is the wagon on Tumble, and since I really don't have a read on the guy besides my early maybe shitty guess when he posted his read on slam, but I have a townread on basically everyone on his wagon at this point and will vote accordingly, following the fellow town flock .

But I still think TT is more likely mafia. If you can't see it now I hope you will later.. For now I have to be the sheeplet since I'm not a shepherd.

##Vote TW
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
March 28 2016 21:21 GMT
#2334
On March 29 2016 05:29 rsoultin wrote:
pues, i still want a kuru lynch

his tube read seemed ridic fake, and the fact that when i pointed that out people jumped down my throat makes me feel he's even more likely scum

not lynching koshi, btw ^^


Humm, this makes me thing Rsoul is town. Making an effort to start a new wagon (and on someone who I also think is scum) when she is in real danger of being lynched here. Much easier for scum!Rsoul to go, "Yea that koshi/tumble fellow sure is off, lets lynch him"

Fuck it, I think her claim is good and now I'm starting to consider her town for other reasons.

Koshi is still a terrible lynch, I'm gunna vote Tumble.
I can take that responsibility.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
March 28 2016 21:22 GMT
#2335
On March 29 2016 06:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 06:07 Superbia wrote:
On March 29 2016 06:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe I am annoyed that in a game with a very very hard playerlist from a town pov even the few usually reliably towny players are either not willing to play or mafia? I might also be annoyed by the fact that this is clearly a themed game that was sold to me as normal and that we don't even get to read the role pms of the dead people which is a huge boost for mafia.


I feel the same way tbh. Like I can't ever think you're mafia in this game because if you are I have no fucking idea who the town are or what they're doing.

The buddying is real. As if you are "annoyed". You havn't don't shit yet to try to actually solve this game.


I am for sure buddying. JAT is like my hardest town at this point. There is also a decent reason why my d2 is vastly different from my d1. I also have done plenty. Way more than most.
Minimal effort.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
March 28 2016 21:22 GMT
#2336
Everyone piles onto my lynch again...
Now I'm paranoid. D:
Retired.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 28 2016 21:23 GMT
#2337
On March 29 2016 01:45 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2016 15:00 sicklucker wrote:
but if koshis like a third party that cant be killed by kp only lynched or needs to be hit with more then one kp to die. He would claim medic save because thats his only option.

So thats one way to explain the second medic theory

Pretty sure I have never claimed medic save.
I am also not 3rd party. But I guess that is where your mind goes when you know I am not mafia and I am not playing my town meta :D

I don't understand what's happening there. Someone claimed to have shot Koshi right ? Who ? And you're claiming there you got saved because you're a vet I think ?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 28 2016 21:23 GMT
#2338
Honestly I don't give a fuck if I get lynched over my Tina read but I think she is town.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 28 2016 21:23 GMT
#2339
On March 29 2016 06:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Everyone piles onto my lynch again...
Now I'm paranoid. D:

Nononono. People piling onto your half assed push are town. Remember? Nothing to worry.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 28 2016 21:23 GMT
#2340
On March 24 2016 08:52 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 07:13 Koshi wrote:
Confirmed Town
+ Show Spoiler +

Likely Town
+ Show Spoiler +

Maybe town
+ Show Spoiler +

Not going to lynch Town
+ Show Spoiler +

Null
+ Show Spoiler +
VayneAuthority
Kurumi
Stutters695
Damdred
sandroba
ObiWanShinobi
Rels
justanothertownie
Tictock
ritoky
sicklucker
Alakaslam
Tumblewood
Shapelog
Vivax
rsoultin
LightningStrike
Superbia
Tubesock
gumshoe

Won't lynch right now Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +

Maybe Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +

Likely Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +

Confirmed Mafia
+ Show Spoiler +


What was the meaning of this post? What the hell is "Won't lynch right now Mafia" - is there any case where you don't lynch a Mafia I am missing? Why do you need the "Confirmed" spoiler if the confirmation comes from the host through flips and the updated player list? Is the reason you made that list is that Mafia has a cheatsheet for shots? Nothing good can come from this. I highly dislike this type of lists, especially that you have not commented on what is going to happen with it.

Show nested quote +
On March 24 2016 07:53 gumshoe wrote:
Maybe I've missed an evolution somewhere along the line but slam seems to be actually trying as opposed to just flaunting his usual semi troll trot. Which isn't a point I'm going to level against him cause wow that would just be bad, but is of note for better or worse. Damdred is of course fishing as one would expect of ether side, words like interesting are rather neutral. A call to arms is also fairly vague, clearly he has notions of how peeps react to something like that, or mabs he's willing to play it by ear. His post feels cautious and calculated few words as it may be. Which could be scummy depending on his meta ( never played with him ) seems intelligent regardless. Parabola sounds like he just doesn't wanna get anyone on his tail but still wants to appear to be a present and beloved member of town. Could be scums, could just be excited to play, maybe he's bieng light to try to attract heat for said lightness thereby kick starting stuff. Multiple personalities can be envisioned from the posts so far, but there is no real leaning towards good or evil. As one would expect a page in to a game.

TLDR As of yet, nothing worth acting on outside of concert with more proof. TLDR for TLDR stuff is stuff



This post gave me so many rubs in such bad ways that I just can't let it go.
a) The comment on Slam: Not only it's absolutely unnecessary, it ends with "Well, I shouldn't bring it up because it's bad" - so why bother? You know it is bad and you still do it. I mean, I guess you want people to focus on that for some reason, but I'd rather focus on you. Also, if Chezinu Rule is to be trusted, we may have another testament to this.
b) Damdred's fishing. Not only I have not seen anything of that nature till that post, but also we are met with a statement that "fishing is to be expected of either side". Oh boy, no, not at all. Fishing for roles is not something you expect from either side. Fishing is Mafia's job. I highly dislike the attempt to paint it as ambiguous. I also do not understand why would you bring attention to any odd words in a person's post. If that's a crumb, you don't want Mafia to see it. Odd wording - go ahead, it might be a slip. But random, seemingly non-related words? No way.
c) Read on Superbia. Another read straight outta fortune teller. Why would you, gumshoe, try to paint Superbia as suspicious? At the point of posting that, the only thing Superbia has said about himself was that "you should care about him", which pretty much goes contrary to your point about him not wanting anyone on his tail.
d) You end your post saying that it is not really worth much, but you managed to paint Superbia scum, excuse Damdred non-existant fishing and point out that pointing out Slam's behaviour at this stage of the game does more harm than good. You note that people might be excited about something, that they look for something, but you seem not to look for anything. You created a mid-sized post detailing less than a page of a game for nothing, what you admit, but you would not have done that if it really was nothing, so what is your agenda behind that post?


On March 26 2016 00:25 Kurumi wrote:
I am voting Tubesock for scum agenda and taking a break, like this guy has been pushing me from his very first post because I dared to make a case and that's his reasoning. Then he proposed policy lynching sandroba out of every lurker for no reason, townreads Vivax without giving any reason - the only reason I see is that they both have been pushing me since their very first post.


ye actually i misremembered @.@ it was his reaction when i pointed out that tube's scumread was because the case was super unnecessary and over the top at the time, which i agreed with, not just because he "made" a case

then he reacts like a loon

+ Show Spoiler +
On March 26 2016 00:30 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
On March 26 2016 00:25 Kurumi wrote:
I am voting Tubesock for scum agenda and taking a break, like this guy has been pushing me from his very first post because I dared to make a case and that's his reasoning. Then he proposed policy lynching sandroba out of every lurker for no reason, townreads Vivax without giving any reason - the only reason I see is that they both have been pushing me since their very first post.


this is not what tube said at all and i'm pretty sure you know that -_-


He said my post was too big for the time of the game
and that only scum would push gumshoe, because he was so obviously scummy that it was obvious that he was town
PRETTY EASY TO SAY THAT WE HAS TOWNIE AFTER HE ALREADY FLIPPED, HUH?


On March 26 2016 00:38 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 00:32 rsoultin wrote:
On March 26 2016 00:30 Kurumi wrote:
On March 26 2016 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
On March 26 2016 00:25 Kurumi wrote:
I am voting Tubesock for scum agenda and taking a break, like this guy has been pushing me from his very first post because I dared to make a case and that's his reasoning. Then he proposed policy lynching sandroba out of every lurker for no reason, townreads Vivax without giving any reason - the only reason I see is that they both have been pushing me since their very first post.


this is not what tube said at all and i'm pretty sure you know that -_-


He said my post was too big for the time of the game
and that only scum would push gumshoe, because he was so obviously scummy that it was obvious that he was town
PRETTY EASY TO SAY THAT WE HAS TOWNIE AFTER HE ALREADY FLIPPED, HUH?


hyperbole much?

like, you're right, these reads came later cause he entered the thread later, which is why i questioned him on gum to begin with since gum was doing the same thing he's accusing you of doing, yet you're completely misrepresenting what he's scumreading you for which just makes me twitch ><

That's what he said. He said I made an ultra big post (lol no read maybe games from 2012 or so) that I nitpicked (lol no) and ME PUSHING GUM MADE HIM THINK GUM IS INNOCENT, like his reasoning for gum being town while he was reading the thread is because someone scumread him (just like Tube himself!) and began pushing him. I wonder what Tube would've done on my spot, probably pat gumshoe on the back and tell him "oh man you are such a townie looking like obvious scum hahahahaha" and then proceed to wait for someone to put effort in the game and call them scum, because town-meta is that the first person to put effort is scum, because effort is not needed to win games when it's Romantic era, FEELINGS AND PRAYERS ARE THE WAY


On March 26 2016 00:41 Kurumi wrote:
like I can imagine sandroba making a case on me and Tubesock voting sandroba BECAUSE I AM SO OBVIOUSLY SCUM THAT A CASE ON ME MUST COME FROM SCUM



On March 26 2016 00:44 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2016 00:43 rsoultin wrote:
On March 26 2016 00:38 Kurumi wrote:
On March 26 2016 00:32 rsoultin wrote:
On March 26 2016 00:30 Kurumi wrote:
On March 26 2016 00:28 rsoultin wrote:
On March 26 2016 00:25 Kurumi wrote:
I am voting Tubesock for scum agenda and taking a break, like this guy has been pushing me from his very first post because I dared to make a case and that's his reasoning. Then he proposed policy lynching sandroba out of every lurker for no reason, townreads Vivax without giving any reason - the only reason I see is that they both have been pushing me since their very first post.


this is not what tube said at all and i'm pretty sure you know that -_-


He said my post was too big for the time of the game
and that only scum would push gumshoe, because he was so obviously scummy that it was obvious that he was town
PRETTY EASY TO SAY THAT WE HAS TOWNIE AFTER HE ALREADY FLIPPED, HUH?


hyperbole much?

like, you're right, these reads came later cause he entered the thread later, which is why i questioned him on gum to begin with since gum was doing the same thing he's accusing you of doing, yet you're completely misrepresenting what he's scumreading you for which just makes me twitch ><

That's what he said. He said I made an ultra big post (lol no read maybe games from 2012 or so) that I nitpicked (lol no) and ME PUSHING GUM MADE HIM THINK GUM IS INNOCENT, like his reasoning for gum being town while he was reading the thread is because someone scumread him (just like Tube himself!) and began pushing him. I wonder what Tube would've done on my spot, probably pat gumshoe on the back and tell him "oh man you are such a townie looking like obvious scum hahahahaha" and then proceed to wait for someone to put effort in the game and call them scum, because town-meta is that the first person to put effort is scum, because effort is not needed to win games when it's Romantic era, FEELINGS AND PRAYERS ARE THE WAY


@.@

the irony here is actually kinda delicious lol >>

too much effort to case a player already being lynched, he said, and frankly it's a good point. also, it's not crazy to go hey, scummy guy...wait, scummier guy biting his head off maybe the scummy guy is town after all...the only caveat here is of course we can't know cause he wasn't in thread when it was actually going down

the story itself is fine just unverifiable. who do you think is scum other than tube?

HE HAD LIKE THREE VOTES ON HIM AND ONE FROM SICKLUCKER WHO SAID IT WAS A PRESSURE VOTE HIMSELF

HE WAS NOWHERE BEING LYNCHED

AM I THE ONLY PERSON LITERATE ENOUGH TO READ WHAT PEOPLE WRITE IN THIS GAME



^ even though i thought this was over the top, it wasn't even this that clinched it in my mind. it was the fact that i kept asking him for other scumreads but all he did was all caps here in what looked pretty fake ragey fit shit to me then fucked off until his post right before the day post...so not here at deadline, not willing to discuss anything, not here all night

seemed a lot like he was reaching and just trying to justify an afk vote and my probing caught him flatfooted
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