Newbie Student Mafia XX

On April 04 2016 08:05 Trfel wrote:
:/

On April 05 2016 08:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Yay I rolled town which I really wanted so I can change my play style. Let's find scum!

On April 05 2016 08:54 DoYouHas wrote:

Change your playstyle from what to what?

On April 05 2016 10:53 GlowingBear wrote:


It's always fun to vote artanis.

+ that joke was awkward

On April 05 2016 17:18 Spikasaur wrote:
Morning all

On April 06 2016 05:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

What exactly are you referring to when you say I'm throwing people under the bus?

We're discussing whether it sparked discussion or not.

Speaking of discussion, you seem to be throwing out a bunch of people you call good lynches but don't substantiate it with anything. Why don't you start?

On April 05 2016 09:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Through objective analysis I've deduced that Tumblewood, Spikasaur and Race Bannon are our 3 scum players. You may ask me why in the morning.

On April 06 2016 22:25 Race Bannon wrote:
Bulletpointing how town CHodge is if he is town is what I expect scum to do at this point.

On April 06 2016 23:33 Race Bannon wrote:

I know my alignment.
Who are your scumspects?

On April 07 2016 05:17 Damdred wrote:
Obvious discrediting by gb is a go.

Anyway art I've mentioned several other people in the thread at different points I could lynch besides yourself so nah.

Like ls could lynch him to sadly.

On April 07 2016 06:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Can people tell me what they think of Boxerfred?

On April 08 2016 12:42 GlowingBear wrote:
@LS
Why is it important to you to be read as town for your content instead of for your emotions?

On April 07 2016 09:25 Race Bannon wrote:

Determinism? What's your point?

On April 08 2016 12:42 GlowingBear wrote:
@LS
Why is it important to you to be read as town for your content instead of for your emotions?

On April 08 2016 22:08 LightningStrike wrote:

I thought CHodge was town but I didn't tell people to sheep me on that read -_- I guess you need to reread my filter on that part.

On April 06 2016 22:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up and I think CHodge is Town for a few reasons.
1. His approach to the game is quite different than a normal newbie regarding Vet players like myself and Artanis.
2. He been more thinking critically than me and everyone else up to this point.

On April 09 2016 07:13 GlowingBear wrote:


Did you have any reason to scumread fidei?

On April 09 2016 08:28 GlowingBear wrote:


You've said you wanted to lunch him but didn't give a single reason to why he is mafia. That's why I'm asking.

On April 09 2016 09:11 Gossemerr wrote:
EBWOP:
in favor of*

On April 10 2016 02:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Okay guys, you know who we're not lynching today? Me. I'm going to make a long-ass post right the fuck now and you're all going to read it and realize how bad you were for ever even considering me as scum, after which I will slam dunk scumbear some more. If for whatever reason you don't want to lynch him we can also lynch scum bannon. To keep your interest in this post and read it all the way through, I have uploaded several entertaining images depicting emotions I expect these two fellows to have as they go through this post.

This post will contain narrative and self-meta. Deal with it.

You're mafia because you wanted people to shenanny to Fidei when you were scumreading both GB and RB!
First off, I have never* shenannied as mafia, whereas I have shenannied many times as town. I keep things simple as mafia, going for the safe plays over the fancy plays. I like to have control, not cause even more chaos like what happened. No one could've predicted what would happen at EoD and if any of the lead wagons were scum and Fidei is town, I could end up looking really bad and/or scum ends up getting lynched instead.


But GB brought up this point about how you could push him the day after if you're scum!
That is technically correct. However, it is also narrative. Another explanation is that I simply thought Fidei was the most likely to flip mafia given the fact that Fidei generally tryhards, finds out he's playing a game 2 hours before deadline and doesn't put in any effort to do anything and just starts playing dota. I found that very unlikely to come from town. Since then I have changed my opinion on him given what he's posted during the night.

Regardless, there is clear town motivation for my actions. I tried getting the person I felt was most likely to flip scum lynched. I no longer think he's the most likely person to flip scum, so I'm persuing GRB.



But why did you instantly go after GB and RB again? Clearly you're confident enough that they're scum, so why?
GB's return to the thread has been less than impressive. He's tunneling me much like he usually tunnels HF. None of his posts have followup. He said he played along with me in the start, but never followed up on it. He commented on a bunch of things people have been posting, but none of those had followups either. Calls me scum but doesn't actually substantiate it until I call him out on it and doesn't push the issue until he sees that it's gaining some momentum.

So how certain are you that GB is going to flip scum?
Roughly.. 80%? Probably around 60% for RB.

Okay, so say the EoD shenannies don't make you scum. You still did nothing on the first part of D1 leading up to deadline.
I have said in the pregame that I intend to spend less time on this game than before. I still pinged plenty of people and as many have put it, sparked discussion. Reads on DYH, Tumblewood, GB and Spikasaur that weren't posted as prolifically yet as I had as well as poking Damdred and RB. I say that given the amount of time I've put in the game I've done my fair share.

Regardless you misremembered things about EoD!
Shit was hectic and I have bad memory. I don't believe having poor memory is alignment indicative, especially when it's about things that can easily be checked. No reason to lie as either alignment.

So there's basically no good reason to scumread you whatsoever?
Yup, that's kinda what it comes down to. Y'all are jubjubs.



Can you tell us why GB and RB are scum again now?
GlowingBear, I've already mentioned a lot of reasons why he's scum. No followup on anything he's done, and lack of caring in general. He created a narrative in which the actions at EoD make sense for him as town and me as scum, when actually the scenario that would make the most sense is for me to be town as I led a lynch off of him onto someone else whom could be scum. The only townie with the information that that isn't true is Fidei himself, and the fact that GB created this narrative before considering any others suggests an agenda.

Race Bannon has contradicted himself time and time again. Firstly what Gossemerr pointed out about him believing that it was a mafia trait to hard townread CHodge only to do it himself, and his push on LS feels feigned. He doesn't dare to commit on GB because he doesn't want to scumread his scumbuddy. There are no good arguments not to vote on GB especially for him as he was on the table himself and he KNOWS he's town. The fact that he seems so disengaged on all the people that were up for lynch yesterday is concerning.

So who are we lynching?
Glowingbear today. Race Bannon tomorrow. Could be convinced of the other order as well.



*Exception being Imperial where I shenannied onto Palmar, but if I hadn't scum Marv would've likely gotten lynched. No such risk this game as proven by BF's flip.

On April 10 2016 07:21 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, do you have a scum read at least? Or you're just voting between the two leading wagons because it's comfortsble to you?

On April 10 2016 07:25 GlowingBear wrote:


Why am I scum?

On April 10 2016 07:39 Fidei86 wrote:

You being up for it makes me not up for it.

On April 11 2016 05:33 Race Bannon wrote:

Too scummy to be scum. I think he's town and I'll be taking the piss out of him a lot reminding him of this game.

My scumreads are LS Damdred and a lurker.

On April 11 2016 05:37 Gossemerr wrote:


Can you elaborate on what too scummy to be scum means?

On April 11 2016 05:45 Race Bannon wrote:

His cred for once? Everything GB said seems to be true. I know I'm town. He's townreading who I think is probscum and largely ignoring the lurkers. He's done everything wrong, I don't think scum would go full derp like that.

And the thing about townreading CH it's ridiculous how he insists on slicing it up and viewing the pieces independently and out of context. Defending LS with meta that he dphimself denounced and now this naive assertion of LS's attempt to get me lynched being genuine and town.

My last second vote was due to me being overwhelmed and my tablet clumsiness. I was stuxk with the notion of having to choose between RB and him, didn't evwn register the push on TW until after I pseudo-voted

On April 11 2016 07:02 Gossemerr wrote:


Now couldn't it just be that 1: ART is town, in a t v t situation. Can you elaborate on everything he has done wrong in a case? He has been reading you as scummy for a while now. Even since day one. Cases against your top scum suspects will really help us as a town. Kind of important since you are being implicated as scum from a few of us and haven't really offered anything of value to the table.

On April 11 2016 07:41 Race Bannon wrote:

Am I supposed to go around a ask people what they think about you or my case like a beggar? That kind of lobbying seems kind of silly assuming everyone is reading the thread which I assume is a prerequisite to play. Also what are you doing, let me have a conversation with the man ffs, everyone heard you the first time you said that shit

On April 12 2016 21:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

So you're saying you don't think RB is scum anymore?

Also sorry to hear that.

On April 13 2016 07:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I leave you with my reads:
Confirmed Town:
Artanis[Xp]

Confirmed Scum:
Gossemer

You're welcome.

On April 13 2016 08:14 LightningStrike wrote:
Well I know I not scum so that would 3 on that lynch that I could choose from but also kuru voted for you goss.

On April 16 2016 00:06 DoYouHas wrote:


Can you explain this further? Why does Kura flipping scum make you unable to be the gf?