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On March 08 2016 06:00 Shapelog wrote: Mafia KP is fractional. . Could someone awesome explain this to me? :D | ||
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On April 05 2016 09:12 DoYouHas wrote: Personally, I would like to hear from the newbies. What is their experience with mafia, why they are town, just generally being active. If we can get the newbies active they won't be easy scapegoats for scum and we should have a more productive d1. Are you implying we would be easy scapegoats based solely on #/length of posts? Maybe you want newbies to post a lot to clutter up the thread and muddle pro-town progress | ||
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On April 06 2016 05:01 Damdred wrote: LS might be a good lynch I remembered this game is a thing. Could you explain why you think so? | ||
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1. Early posts are fluff, no real added value. 2. This post: He says CHodge is voting a townie (Himself), but CHodge made a clear post about why he was voting him - which is a town characteristic. Doesn't really offer a counter argument - instead responds by dodging the question. He then votes LS seemingly out of nowhere - I guess because his townie read on CHodge. On April 06 2016 22:42 Race Bannon wrote: I meant the townvibe coming off of CHodge is obvious but he happens to be voting a townie, so I expect scum to encourage people to sheep him. ##LightingStrike 3. Then he does try to explain, which lacks confidence IMO. And on top of that he goes against his own advice of sheeping as a mafia trait and explains his LS vote as a good lynch based on others and not his own opinions. On April 07 2016 00:04 Race Bannon wrote: It could be anyone. Probably a lurker but I think others expressed issues with LS as well so it's a good lynch. So I think RB is a possible mafia which is best read I have thus far. ##Vote: Race Bannon | ||
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Also, CHodge why the flip? | ||
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Thoughts on the last minute flips: we basically had two wagons set up there at the end which ended with boxer lynched. I think it’s fair to assume that 1-2 mafia ended up on boxer (highly doubtful all three would be on it.) So those 4 are: GlowingBear, LightnightStrike, Fidei86, and Damdred. First Fidei: I’m inclined to believe his near death post as truth, had no reason to lie when it look like he was dead. Only case would be if Damdred and him were scheming together with the combo of that (almost town confirming post) and Dam’s super late flip. Cannot read too much into that at this time but it will be good for us to keep in mind moving forward by keeping an eye on both of their actions both independently and when analyzed together. For now I read Fidei86 as town with the above coupled with his great analysis post today. Now GB: I feel his case against Boxer was pretty weak and then he just stopped posting in the thread after he *maybe* thought he would be lynched. Leaning scum to me currently. Would love his thoughts after the ML. GlowingBear maybe mafia LS: Ok right off the bat I liked his anlysis on early analysis on CHodge: + Show Spoiler + On April 06 2016 22:13 LightningStrike wrote: Just woke up and I think CHodge is Town for a few reasons. 1. His approach to the game is quite different than a normal newbie regarding Vet players like myself and Artanis. 2. He been more thinking critically than me and everyone else up to this point. But if you take a look at his filter after that it is literally filled with 1 liners. Asks questions mainly that seem very very uninspired. He is tip-toeing around and not offering any analysis on whom he thinks could be mafia and why. He votes Boxer out of nowhere without analysis. Very scummy IMO. LightningStrike currently lacks inspiring confident posting – my read is likely mafia Finally Damdred: My read is poor on Dam right now. Most of posts do not offer significant analysis. Very wishy-washy at the end of the day with stating multiple lynch candidates. Decides to stay on boxer for unknown reason. Damdred neutral to maybe scum right now Now the peeps on Fidei86: Art, DYH, and Spike: Start with Art whom started this whole wagon shen: On April 07 2016 07:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Do we have the people to switch to Fidei? I really actually believe in him being far more likely to start playing dota 2h before deadline and not check in before as scum than as town. So he says this and then stays on Fidei even when Fidei comes back which would be a town trait according to him. Before all of this mess he is pushing GB super hard @ post #260, then suddenly drops it to start the wagon. On April 07 2016 07:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm also taking full credit when GB flips scum. So maybe I’m reading to much into this because the mixed up did create a lot of activity for later analysis which could have been his plan all along, but I’m currently reading it as a scummy. Artanis is maybe mafia Now DYH: I have no idea. I had scummy vibes coming from early on but that is purely gut. DYH is neutral Spika: pretty absent, maybe anti-town behaviors initially. Spikasaur is maybe mafia based purely on anti-town comments Others: Kuragari42: Like his dislike of the wagons and of the Boxer case by BG On April 07 2016 07:04 Kuragari42 wrote: I'm going to vote GB bc he was who I was leaning scum on earlier today and now he is pushing a BF lynch that I don't see reason behind. Other than that not much to go by, leaning town on Kura Tumblewood: I like his reads and analysis thus far. Seems not afraid to make a case, like with GB, and is willing to put is nickel down. Seems very pro-town to me right now. Tumblewood maybe town CHodge: Pro-town with posts and analysis. Town vibes CHodge maybe town Race still likely mafia based on my before post coupled with lack of activity since. Summary of my reads: Likely Mafia: Race Bannon, LightningStrike Maybe Mafia: Artanis[xp], GlowingBear, Damdred, Spikasaur No Clue: Kuragari42, DoYouHas Maybe Town: CHodge, Tumblewood Likely Town: Fidei86 | ||
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On April 06 2016 23:12 GlowingBear wrote: Yesterday I was auditioning all day long. Here I am today On April 07 2016 04:26 GlowingBear wrote: Whoopsie I was here but I forgot to do stuff On April 07 2016 05:16 GlowingBear wrote: Deadline is today, right? I am kinda busy, was going to put some effiort at midnight. Oh, well. On April 07 2016 05:23 GlowingBear wrote: I would if I played yesterday. But I didn't. On April 07 2016 05:26 GlowingBear wrote: Still, I need to read the 5 pages as a whole On April 07 2016 06:35 GlowingBear wrote: I'm heading to my classes, I won't be here on deadline I believe, so I'm placing my vote on boxerfred. I'll try to come back to see how the vote thread is going. I'm town. I'll put effort tonight, I promise. On April 08 2016 13:37 GlowingBear wrote: Ok I've read almost everything, kinda got bored at the last 3 pages. Artanis how does it feel to be mafia? So many posts about nothing - overly apologetic. If GB had town interest at heart GB would actually follow up. The last comment about being bored is completely useless. No real reads on anyone? Besides a few small one liners on me and some others. But GB pretty much ignores my longer analysis post. On April 08 2016 13:05 GlowingBear wrote: I dislike this. Goss hardly react to stuff, and the only thing he does is to write a case after a townie is already pushing the guy I would be ok with a GB lynch at this point. Would still like to see more thought content and process from LS who was another of my scum reads. @GB Anyways mentioned in my analysis earlier I'd like to hear about your thoughts and if you have any strong reads. Also @ Fidei, you were reading me top scum before, what are your thoughts now? | ||
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Also some input from Spika would help. We should consolidate our thoughts on GB and move forward as a unified town. | ||
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On April 08 2016 23:27 Kuragari42 wrote: Sorry about the lurking, I've been pretty busy irl. I am however half way through a post-by-post analysis of the game. This post struck me as something I should point out. By vote analysis you can determine that Me/GB/TW are most likely not your scum team. Kur what are your thoughts on anyone else in the game? Particularity on RB and TW | ||
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On April 09 2016 08:34 LightningStrike wrote: James decided to play Dota instead of playing the game at EoD hence the gif of the guy disappearing. What I still don't understand is why Artanis stayed with the Fidie vote even after he came back. And then didn't jump back on GB or switch to boxer. Too many other mafia on boxer maybe? On April 07 2016 07:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Do we have the people to switch to Fidei? I really actually believe in him being far more likely to start playing dota 2h before deadline and not check in before as scum than as town. Agreeing with others on the Art case; from my offline notes-- 1. D1 pushes GB very hard. 2. drops it and causes ML in the chaos 3. N1 doesnt seem to care about the ML 4. D2 brings back his push on GB, which if GB flips town he can just refer back to his earlier thoughts and have an explanation. I feel like we have strong cases on GB and Art collectively -- should consolidate and agree on one to lynch. I don't want to have a weird wagon like D1. Much more likely to lynch a scum with more than 4 votes on a single player-- less chance for wagon and flipping. | ||
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On April 09 2016 08:50 LightningStrike wrote: Idk either regarding the first part of the post but EoD was very weird though >.< Second part of the post if GB flips town Lex would look a bit worse but if GB flips scum he earns a ton of towncred. Agreed. Whom would you be in favor or lynching then? | ||
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WTF is this RB? Capitalization means what exactly? On April 10 2016 02:48 Race Bannon wrote: LS is scum. Day 1 lead the lynch on a townie who predictably could't make the deadline (Germany). Day 2 no scumspect. CH would've been glad to lynch him so perhaps that's why he got offed. In the post which I got my scumread from, there may be a vet crumb to render an eventual fake claim more persuasive. notice the capitalization. In case you haven't heard already I'm fairly certain that the timing of this post and it's content is indicative of scum parading CH as the most proficient townie in the field and thus making my lynch more attractive because CH was voting me. @ Fidei On April 10 2016 01:55 Fidei86 wrote: Guys. we are switching to Spika. He has enough posts to know he isn't lurking, but not enough to have contributed anything. Artanis might be mafia, but Spika is dead weight. ##Vote: Spikasaur I don't want to lynch a lurker over a probable mafia. We learn absoultely nothing from a lurker lynch that nobody has even been talking about / has any vested interest in. For being "town firmed" as you and others think you are not being pro-town in my mind with this. It just causes more confusion for a town that is trying to get unified behind an either Art or GB lynch today. Finally, lol: On April 09 2016 16:54 GlowingBear wrote: IIIIII AM DRUUUUUUNK I like the cases and my own read @ GB = mafia. ##Vote GlowingBear | ||
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On April 10 2016 07:33 Damdred wrote: Can we lunch tw first before gb though? How is this better? We will be stuck with more Art vs. GB for the D3 then. | ||
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On April 10 2016 07:40 GlowingBear wrote: Why Artanis is Mafia It's really simple. You have to think through mindsets. Town mindset is "I have to lynch scum" Artanis was scumreading me the entire day1. I've asked him if there was any time he considered if I could be town and he said it was when I started developing discussion using his post + Show Spoiler + On April 09 2016 05:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Early Day1 I thought you were aware of my intentions of getting the game started and played along, but then you having absolutely no followups whatsoever changed that. The few reads you threw out there in the last page were meh and this omgus narrative is, as you would put it, kinda boring. So, basically, he was certain I was scum when I had no follow-up, and there was no other reason to townread me. I was the leading vote on EOD. Artanis had his main scumread going to die. He PROPOSES A SHENANNIE ON A GUY THAT HE NEVER THOUGHT WAS MAFIA. THIS DOESN'T FIT TOWN PERSPECTIVE, because townies want to lynch scum and they won't risk mislynching a townie over a guy that could be town. IT IS SIMPLE AS THIS. I've asked repeated questions to Artanis so he could explain what made him think FIdei could be mafia. He used the excuse that Fidei could be here but decided to play DOTA. Everyone knows that THAT ISN'T ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE. It's the only excuse he could provide to lynching someone else. He said it was also because we weren't here do defend ourselves. From what, I ask? From not having follow ups? He accused me of that 36 hours straight, pratically. So this is the reason: Artanis is Mafia because he tried a shenannie on a guy who didn't display a clear mafia trait instead of killing his main scumread, and this will never fit town mindset. It's not a "narrative", it's pure syllogism: "Town acts like X Artanis didn't act like X Artanis isn't town" SIMPLE AS THAT Why would Art push you so hard if you are town and he is mafia? You flip town basically makes Art look super scum and leads to next day lynch on himself. 1 town for 1 mafia is not a trade the scum team would be willing to take. | ||
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On April 10 2016 07:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I'm going to laugh pretty hard if all scum are in the inactive non-voters btw. lmao | ||
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On April 10 2016 07:57 LightningStrike wrote: Lynch rb. ..not helping lol | ||
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On April 11 2016 04:13 Tumblewood wrote: I think this game could actually be really easy if my predictions are correct. After the NK, we have 6v3. On D3, we lynch Art, and Kura and Spike get MK'd for inactivity (obviously no given, but if they don't it probably involves them also giving us an idea of their alignment). I think that one of Kura and Spike is mafia, not because they're acting scummy, but because I feel confident in my 6-person town circle. That leaves us at 5v1, hopefully. On D4, we lynch RB, who I think is also scum, so we win. Yay woohoo it's over. Of course, this relies on me being correct. I cannot reasonably see any of DYH, Damdred, Fidei, Goss, or LS as scum at this point. I am confident in all of those TRs and recommend you all sheep me to victory thank you. What are your thoughts on the random RB late vote on Art? | ||
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On April 11 2016 00:37 Race Bannon wrote: ##Vote: Shapelog For not updating the players list and important posts info. Have you caught up yet? What are your thoughts on Art since you voted him last second. | ||
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On April 10 2016 07:34 Fidei86 wrote: Okay, so RB's whole game appears to be "LS called CH town and was right, and his reasons were bad, so he's mafia". ??? LS is ALWAYS BAD in most people's eyes. I don't know why I have to explain this to people still. I've said this like ten times. The thing I really don't get about RB's push on LS, however, is how he hasn't interacted really with anyone else on it - especially not me. If I was *that* sure someone was mafia, and there was another playing posting incessantly negative things about my target, I'd be hitting them up for support. That was tortured, but yeah ... I'm starting to dig the Race mafia case. My early read on him was based mostly on his picking out bf early as town, from a crowded field, for reasons that looked good after the fact. But since the middle of day 1 ish, his weird LS tunnel has me concerned. Can you share more about this. On specifically LS v. RB. Placing your vote only on LS now? LS seems to be pretty tuned out at the moment like you have commented on before. Too many close wagons from these past two lynches. Off the top of my head it feels like we have a few vocal players: Art, Fidei, myself, - LS sorta. One liners. What kind of scares me is that nobody really is saying anything about me being wrong on GB. Now I pushed GB super hard and was totally wrong, which I could imagine probably looks scummy to some in this game? from my N1 analysis post I still think that one of LS, GB, Fidei, or Dam is scum. I wish Fidei was more consistent around the EoD instead of bringing up new lynch candidates, RE: spika, as he is the most vocal *likely town* right now. @ Fidei what are your thoughts on Art now that GB flipped town? | ||
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On April 11 2016 05:33 Race Bannon wrote: Too scummy to be scum. I think he's town and I'll be taking the piss out of him a lot reminding him of this game. My scumreads are LS Damdred and a lurker. Can you elaborate on what too scummy to be scum means? | ||
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On April 11 2016 05:45 Race Bannon wrote: His cred for once? Everything GB said seems to be true. I know I'm town. He's townreading who I think is probscum and largely ignoring the lurkers. He's done everything wrong, I don't think scum would go full derp like that. And the thing about townreading CH it's ridiculous how he insists on slicing it up and viewing the pieces independently and out of context. Defending LS with meta that he dphimself denounced and now this naive assertion of LS's attempt to get me lynched being genuine and town. My last second vote was due to me being overwhelmed and my tablet clumsiness. I was stuxk with the notion of having to choose between RB and him, didn't evwn register the push on TW until after I pseudo-voted Now couldn't it just be that 1: ART is town, in a t v t situation. Can you elaborate on everything he has done wrong in a case? He has been reading you as scummy for a while now. Even since day one. Cases against your top scum suspects will really help us as a town. Kind of important since you are being implicated as scum from a few of us and haven't really offered anything of value to the table. | ||
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guys/gals we are not going to lose today -- The case against Artanis. On April 07 2016 08:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote: With the people that ended up on the boxerfred lynch I'm not very surprised he flipped town. Race Bannon, please answer this post when you get back: Fidei, please shit townie rainbows if you're actually town. GlowingBear, please explain your BF read and thought process. 1. Now this is fucking nitpicking but if you follow his filter you’ll see this; notice how in the above he says With the people not “with how many.” Implying he knows something more than a town would = who is town and who are his SCUM buddies. He doesn’t give a flying fuck that he just caused a ML after tunneling in on a townie that he was so confident was scum (read his filter from D1 if you have any doubts on his thought process that day.) Why would it matter if GB was not there to defend himself, which would be best case scenario to lynch a mafia member when they can’t even talk their way out of it. Read GB’s case again on the matter: On April 09 2016 05:15 GlowingBear wrote: Art, is pretty simple why you're scum. You're scum because you had a clear scumread on me that you keep pushing without reconsidering it or without actually caring that much for other people (kinda like a tunnel) But then, while your target IS getting lynched, you propose a shenannie. And it's not a case of not knowing who to lynched. I didn't found a single post where you consider I'm town ONCE. You just kept straight calling me mafia. The part where you say neither me and race were here to defend ourselves is bullshit. Fidei wasn't either and it doesn't matter whether he wasn't becshse he was playing Dota or because he was busy saving a whale from Eskimos. To those wondering what is the mafia morivation behind that: mislynching a townie and keep people discussing the lynch on another townie he was already easily pushing 2. This follows that Artanis had a clear intention to set up his lynch targets from the very beginning. Race gets set up and has been poked by Artanis throughout most of this game: On April 05 2016 09:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Through objective analysis I've deduced that Tumblewood, Spikasaur and Race Bannon are our 3 scum players. You may ask me why in the morning. Obviously D1 early callout means nothing, but it is like that movie with Will Smith where they set the gambler guy to pick a certain number by placing that number in plain sight for the whole week before hand. In this case Art has done it with GB and Race. 3.Read his response to GB’s case – spoilers because its long, well planned, and trys to counter every single point: + Show Spoiler + On April 10 2016 02:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Okay guys, you know who we're not lynching today? Me. I'm going to make a long-ass post right the fuck now and you're all going to read it and realize how bad you were for ever even considering me as scum, after which I will slam dunk scumbear some more. If for whatever reason you don't want to lynch him we can also lynch scum bannon. To keep your interest in this post and read it all the way through, I have uploaded several entertaining images depicting emotions I expect these two fellows to have as they go through this post. This post will contain narrative and self-meta. Deal with it. You're mafia because you wanted people to shenanny to Fidei when you were scumreading both GB and RB! First off, I have never* shenannied as mafia, whereas I have shenannied many times as town. I keep things simple as mafia, going for the safe plays over the fancy plays. I like to have control, not cause even more chaos like what happened. No one could've predicted what would happen at EoD and if any of the lead wagons were scum and Fidei is town, I could end up looking really bad and/or scum ends up getting lynched instead. GB casually escaping the thread after realizing he's fucked But GB brought up this point about how you could push him the day after if you're scum! That is technically correct. However, it is also narrative. Another explanation is that I simply thought Fidei was the most likely to flip mafia given the fact that Fidei generally tryhards, finds out he's playing a game 2 hours before deadline and doesn't put in any effort to do anything and just starts playing dota. I found that very unlikely to come from town. Since then I have changed my opinion on him given what he's posted during the night. Regardless, there is clear town motivation for my actions. I tried getting the person I felt was most likely to flip scum lynched. I no longer think he's the most likely person to flip scum, so I'm persuing GRB. Race Bannon realizing the gig is up But why did you instantly go after GB and RB again? Clearly you're confident enough that they're scum, so why? GB's return to the thread has been less than impressive. He's tunneling me much like he usually tunnels HF. None of his posts have followup. He said he played along with me in the start, but never followed up on it. He commented on a bunch of things people have been posting, but none of those had followups either. Calls me scum but doesn't actually substantiate it until I call him out on it and doesn't push the issue until he sees that it's gaining some momentum. So how certain are you that GB is going to flip scum? Roughly.. 80%? Probably around 60% for RB. Okay, so say the EoD shenannies don't make you scum. You still did nothing on the first part of D1 leading up to deadline. I have said in the pregame that I intend to spend less time on this game than before. I still pinged plenty of people and as many have put it, sparked discussion. Reads on DYH, Tumblewood, GB and Spikasaur that weren't posted as prolifically yet as I had as well as poking Damdred and RB. I say that given the amount of time I've put in the game I've done my fair share. Regardless you misremembered things about EoD! Shit was hectic and I have bad memory. I don't believe having poor memory is alignment indicative, especially when it's about things that can easily be checked. No reason to lie as either alignment. So there's basically no good reason to scumread you whatsoever? Yup, that's kinda what it comes down to. Y'all are jubjubs. Scumbear being chased by the man of the hour Can you tell us why GB and RB are scum again now? GlowingBear, I've already mentioned a lot of reasons why he's scum. No followup on anything he's done, and lack of caring in general. He created a narrative in which the actions at EoD make sense for him as town and me as scum, when actually the scenario that would make the most sense is for me to be town as I led a lynch off of him onto someone else whom could be scum. The only townie with the information that that isn't true is Fidei himself, and the fact that GB created this narrative before considering any others suggests an agenda. Race Bannon has contradicted himself time and time again. Firstly what Gossemerr pointed out about him believing that it was a mafia trait to hard townread CHodge only to do it himself, and his push on LS feels feigned. He doesn't dare to commit on GB because he doesn't want to scumread his scumbuddy. There are no good arguments not to vote on GB especially for him as he was on the table himself and he KNOWS he's town. The fact that he seems so disengaged on all the people that were up for lynch yesterday is concerning. So who are we lynching? Glowingbear today. Race Bannon tomorrow. Could be convinced of the other order as well. *Exception being Imperial where I shenannied onto Palmar, but if I hadn't scum Marv would've likely gotten lynched. No such risk this game as proven by BF's flip. Going to just pull out one part: So who are we lynching? Glowingbear today. Race Bannon tomorrow. Could be convinced of the other order as well. Everything about his process is methodical, planned, and leading us to misslynch our town. So many posts about RB. On April 10 2016 07:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Fidei what's your current read on RB? 4. Everyone read this post: On April 10 2016 07:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Bleh, you're right. Me or GB today guys. This is so NOT something a townie would do. Why would a town basically say its ok to misslynch them. He should be pushing GB super hard right now to make sure his top scum suspect gets the noose. But he doesn't have to here because I ended up doing that for him through my own bad reads and wanting the town to consolidate for once. 5. Backpeddling to fall back on when GB flips town: On April 10 2016 07:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I must say that GB's reasonableness is making me itchy too though blsfkjsdf 5. After the ML: On April 10 2016 08:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Off for the night now. Will make more sense of it tomorrow. Doesn't followup because he doesn't need to make sense of it for us. It DOESN'T as a town. Period. On April 11 2016 07:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Don't have time for elaborated reads unfortunately. Scum leans on RB and I really dunno who else, so I'd default to the inactives. Townleans on Damdred/Fidei/TW/DYH/Gosse/LS roughly in that order. Need to look into Kura and Spike more. 6. Back on RB. No other analysis on anyone else. Has barely talked about DYH or Dam, and only slightly on TW and LS because he was forced too. In Summary A. Picks out GB and RB D1 B. Eod1 shenns, doesn’t lynch his top scum C. Calm after ML, perfect response to criticisms D. Back to focusing on GB D2 E. Backpedals near lynch deadline F. N2 Doesn't care about ML, at least in terms of trying to make sense of it and content -- keeping the town muddled and in the dark. G. N2/D3 back to RB push that he set up from the beginning Artanis is mafia. lynch today and we can move forward. Artanis is not demonstrating any sort of read progressions or deviations from his thoughts since the beginning of the game. IT IS FOLLOWING A PLAN. He is scum and needs to die. P.S: also read TW's case against him: + Show Spoiler + On April 11 2016 04:01 Tumblewood wrote: Incoming "wtf is TW saying": There's a reason I thought that Art was scum if GB was town: the case was too perfect. What I mean by that is that for every response GB had to the case, Art had a refutation. Perhaps what I'm trying to say is that the case felt very calculated and not organic (there was also virtually no emotion behind Art's words). If that happens, either town really caught scum, or scum is pushing hard for a ML. 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On April 12 2016 01:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote: We had to put my dog to sleep today. Don't count on me doing much. Fuck man. I'm so so sorry. | ||
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On April 12 2016 11:03 LightningStrike wrote: I tried to get people off GB and Lex 10 mins before EoD but no one fucking listened to me -_- Right, we all kind of tunneled in on him. Art made a pretty persuasive case. | ||
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Guys Art is scum, RB probably town given this scenario. | ||
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He has been from the beginning. Get you misslynched and win. | ||
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On April 13 2016 01:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Well yeah, I've never been mislynched before and the potential of getting mislynched gets me going, especially if it's not for very good reasons. You're not going to lynch me this game, for I am not mafia. I've detailed plenty of reasons throughout the thread. Also, townreading RB from an unflipped association that is also wrong is awful. Don't worry you are not going to be misslynched now This is a game of associations. Mine on RB will be fine when you flip red. | ||
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On April 13 2016 03:52 Race Bannon wrote: I'm not seeing how a more stealthy approach would've been less incriminating. @Art Do you think Kura's recent ahoy in activity is scummy? Right, I'm asking: do you agree that Art is our lynch today? | ||
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We need to lynch mafia or we lose. Art is def scum. | ||
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You are too good of a player to be leading us this poorly. And everything in my case. +GB's case +TW's little case | ||
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On April 11 2016 05:36 Gossemerr wrote: Can you share more about this. On specifically LS v. RB. Placing your vote only on LS now? LSseems to be pretty tuned out at the moment like you have commented on before. Too many close wagons from these past two lynches. Off the top of my head it feels like we have a few vocal players: Art, Fidei, myself, - LS sorta. One liners. What kind of scares me is that nobody really is saying anything about me being wrong on GB. Now I pushed GB super hard and was totally wrong, which I could imagine probably looks scummy to some in this game? from my N1 analysis post I still think that one of LS, GB, Fidei, or Dam is scum. I wish Fidei was more consistent around the EoD instead of bringing up new lynch candidates, RE: spika, as he is the most vocal *likely town* right now. @ Fidei what are your thoughts on Art now that GB flipped town? C O P LS T O O W N N1 On April 11 2016 07:02 Gossemerr wrote: Now couldn't it just be that 1: ART is town, in a t v t situation. Can you elaborate on everything he has done wrong in a case? He has been reading you as scummy for a while now. Even since day one. Cases against your top scum suspects will really help us as a town. Kind of important since you are being implicated as scum from a few of us and haven't really offered anything of value to the table. N 1 ART C H E C K (yeah fucked up it was N2) On April 12 2016 02:11 Gossemerr wrote: Now that kill seems like a set up for getting ls killed, way 2 obvious since fidei was riding him so hard. Clearly fid was an easy scum kill given that he was one of the few actually contributing. Our best move will be to lynch artanis. Putting us all up to that eod1 shit. After tunneling so hard on gb. Really? Then he moves perfectly back into the gb case and gets him ml’d. (which I certainly fell for as well). artanis = MAFIA, and we need to lynch him. N 2 C O P A R T MAFIA | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:11 Kuragari42 wrote: Oh wow. I was betting that Damdy was the blue.. I must rethink my life. hes not, just claiming to try and save himself. w.e. just lynch and try to figure out the last two | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Wow, you're good at capitalizing random letters in your posts. lol look at the time points, and the speed at which i just did that after you posted. fuck off | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Obviously you had all the time in the world to prepare for it since you knew it was LYLO today for ~46 hours already and your plan was to mislynch me to win the game today at all costs. REMEMBER SCUM ONLY NEEDS ONE MISLYNCH TO WIN THE GAME k. lmao. also i posted the first art check post during n2, and the second with the return mafia response just after N2 ended / during d3 | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Obviously you prepared for the situation in which I turned out to be blue since you only need one mislynch. That's not an argument. On the same token, why would I claim to check CHodge N1 when I could've claimed a check on just about anyone? there is absolutely no reason for me to counter claim as mafia. blue claiming would help the scum team. could easily role block every night or just kill the blue then. | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Of course there's reason to counterclaim: You win outright with a mislynch. What more would you need? Yeah alright true. Safer bet would be what I said though. | ||
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then suddenly after N2 im tunneling art hard. and i mean only art. | ||
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yes there are 4 other towns here. art is basically trying to bully his way out of this. | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:30 Kuragari42 wrote: Wtf, I'm finally here and you just ignore me. i mean look at the two cop claims and you tell me when one you think is mafia, art is clearly faking it. one of us has to be mafia obviously lynching TW is dumb at this point | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Opportunistic. I shut down the LS lynch. TW gave you an entrance into lynching me and the momentum was going against me after the GB flip. you have a claim against everything rofl other people please read for yourselves. | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Well if you could name the other two I'd be much obliged. once you are gone, finding out the other two is gonna be a bitch considering nobody talks much in this game lol | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: We have to decide today. This situation will never be resolved and he'll just invent new cop checks, or won't even bother if we don't end up lynching the rber since he could just claim rbed. Lynch Gossemer. Lynch mafia. OK OK OK LMAO NOW THERE IS A REAL SCUM SLIP [bhe'll just invent new cop checks][/b] I couldn't invent new scum slips because: 1. the game would be over if you were actually town and we ML you 2. you would be blue cop in that scenario so i couldnt even claim checks - if the game didnt end as in 1 anyways 3. pretty much you just implicated that TW is mafia with you since in this scenario lynching him wouldnt end the fucking game.. so town -- we lynch art today and TW tomorrow | ||
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On April 13 2016 06:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: We have to decide today. This situation will never be resolved and he'll just invent new cop checks, or won't even bother if we don't end up lynching the rber since he could just claim rbed. Lynch Gossemer. Lynch mafia. OK OK OK LMAO NOW THERE IS A REAL SCUM SLIP he'll just invent new cop checks I couldn't invent new scum slips because: 1. the game would be over if you were actually town and we ML you 2. you would be blue cop in that scenario so i couldnt even claim checks - if the game didnt end as in 1 anyways 3. pretty much you just implicated that TW is mafia with you since in this scenario lynching him wouldnt end the fucking game.. so town -- we lynch art today and TW tomorrow[/QUOTE] | ||
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On April 13 2016 07:09 Tumblewood wrote: Goss, why did you wait so long to crumb your LS check? Cuz I'm new and didn't think of it until then haha. I didn't think of this situation until then. | ||
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On April 13 2016 07:35 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Well played scum. You got me mislynched for the first time. you get to ride off into the sunset with your streak still in hand sir! (well as a ghost) | ||
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On April 13 2016 07:42 Kuragari42 wrote: After reading his filter (and most of Art[xp]'s) I believe Gossemer is the mafian. Though if I had it my way, I'd lynch ye both. And tumble. And myself. how the fuck did you come to that conclusion lol. when art flips red will i still be scum? | ||
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On April 13 2016 07:39 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Presuming that's true, this would be how I would feel about that. Unfortunately it's not because I'm town you do feel like dat | ||
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well in 12 mins you feel dat | ||
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On April 13 2016 07:52 Kuragari42 wrote: In the words of the great Race Bannon "You fucking lack reading comprehension". Like I feel that town would try harder to actually understand what people are saying. IF Art flips red, you of course will not be scum.... I can't read your mind friend. You just said that I'm the mafian but don't explain. | ||
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On April 13 2016 07:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I leave you with my reads: Confirmed Town: Artanis[Xp] Confirmed Scum: Gossemer You're welcome. pls confirm other scum | ||
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On April 13 2016 07:54 DoYouHas wrote: RB ended up on Art last time. I would be surprised if he voted you. All that is left is the long-feeling, short wait for the flip. It is silly how much this stresses me out every time, regardless of my level of certainty. Agreed. | ||
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bye bye | ||
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Well im roll blocked or killed tonight so ill try and post something good by then | ||
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Kur prob town mafia team is on the lynch: (2) of LS, TW, Dam, DYH | ||
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On April 13 2016 08:14 LightningStrike wrote: Well I know I not scum so that would 3 on that lynch that I could choose from but also kuru voted for you goss. you could be the GF Kur voting for me as mafia just seems to obvious. also the whole i don't know who to lynch lets do TW seems like a townie mistake. mafia team would be more composed and pulled together probably. i dunno for sure. need to read | ||
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One of RB or Kur is mafia. On April 13 2016 07:55 Shapelog wrote: Ye Ole Vote Count! Artanis[Xp] (4): Gossemerr, DoYouHas, Tumblewood, Damdred, LightningStike Race Bannon (0): Gossmerr (2):: Aranis[Xp}, Kuragari42 Not-Voting (1): Race Bannon, Currently, Artanis[Xp] is set to be lynched. The deadline is in . Make sure all voting is done in the voting thread here. Only votes in the voting thread will be counted. Not voting will result in a warning. And a repeated offense will result in a Modkill If they were both town, the two mafia on Art could just switch to me and end the game with me getting lynched. SO guys/gals: 1. One of RB / Kur is scum 2. One of DYH / LS / Dam / TW is scum let's do this | ||
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On April 13 2016 08:42 Damdred wrote: Wait that's wrong I misremembered the vote yesterday he could still be scum,carry on. But that's correct one in the non voters/on you (or maybe both). And only one on the lynch. LS can't be up for consideration and tommorow should lol,focus,between race and kur correct! | ||
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I try before I die tonight. | ||
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On April 14 2016 02:14 LightningStrike wrote: Since no one seems to be around to spill my thoughts on to I think kura out him and RB is scum due to the fact that I don't recall lex (Artanis) being a heavy busser as scum so RB is most likely town. I agree just considering the fact that Art set RB from the get go. And no reason to push a mafia lynch on a day where its LYOL | ||
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On April 12 2016 14:24 Tumblewood wrote: official scum team: art, rb, kura if you have any objections to these three lynches please object or else I'm assuming this is our plan for the rest of the game TW what are your thoughts? | ||
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RB Town -pushed hard by artanis -fidei thought was obvious town -posts like a town Kur Scum -50/50 shot right off the bat -been pretty non-contributory all game -last minute vote on me with no explanation - BUT, he also read RB as town and TW as hard scum, obviously changed his mind on RB For D5: LS likely Town -town cop check so less likely scum -was set up by night kill to be scum (RE: Fid was going to vote him) -but also worrisome now that he/she is talking a lot more wanting to start controlling the town Dam likely Town -town posts -last min switch D1 doesn’t make sense for a mafia move -read GB as town -read TW scum DYH likely town. -read TW as scum -supports LS as scum TW likely scum. -CH/GB/Fidei all had scum reads on TW and were all killed. On April 08 2016 02:40 Tumblewood wrote: top scum reads Fidei, Goss scum leans RB, GB top town reads CHodge, Damdred town lean on LS null on art and DYH no read on Kura and Spike because they've done nothing yet -now reading kur as scum | ||
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