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Fidei86
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March 30 2016 08:48 GMT
#115
/replace
Fidei86
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March 30 2016 08:48 GMT
#116
[or /in if space opens up for non-n00bs]
Fidei86
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April 06 2016 20:42 GMT
#317
I'm actually here. I didn't think I would be in this game because I didn't confirm or anything, but apparently confirming is for chumps!

I'll catch up. Please no policy lyncherino.
Fidei86
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April 06 2016 20:44 GMT
#319
I'm totally town btw. And you know I'm town because if I was mafia I would totally have made some big long entrance with thoughts and things.
Fidei86
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April 06 2016 20:48 GMT
#322
Okay, so the good news is that there isn't much game to read. The bad news is that I have two hours to work out who is mafia. To the thread!
Fidei86
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April 06 2016 21:01 GMT
#326
On April 07 2016 05:50 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2016 05:44 Fidei86 wrote:
I'm totally town btw. And you know I'm town because if I was mafia I would totally have made some big long entrance with thoughts and things.

I would have totally townread you for this if I had thought of it and not you.

Eh. That was more a reference that only people I've played with before would get.

So far I'm pretty sure that GB and LS are town. I think CHodge and TW are town. I think boxerfred is null lean mafia. I think GOssemer is mafia.

I really don't have time to read the thread fully before the deadline, I have been roped into a dota game. But those are my reads. I'll check in the thread in between deaths.
Fidei86
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April 06 2016 21:04 GMT
#329
I thought boxer's opening was atrocious, but I liked the way he came back on a point. Gossemer's opening, by contrast, was unredeemed by his later posts.

Those reads are garbage, but honestly I'm just giving you first impressions in the tiny amount of time I have to redeem myself.
Fidei86
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April 06 2016 21:52 GMT
#340
@LS can you give me the tl;dr case on BF?
Fidei86
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April 06 2016 22:54 GMT
#394
okay I'm town
Fidei86
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April 06 2016 22:55 GMT
#397
but my death doesn't look like it will give much info.
Fidei86
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April 06 2016 22:56 GMT
#399
I'm consolidating onto boxer because town things
Fidei86
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April 06 2016 22:56 GMT
#402
damdred remember that time we were mafia together, how shit I was?

I'm being shit this game, but differently. It's because I didn't know the game was on and when I checked I had to spend the evening doing things. No lyncherino plz.
Fidei86
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April 06 2016 22:57 GMT
#403
On April 07 2016 07:56 Spikasaur wrote:
This game took sooooo long to get started I forgot about it, now it's sorta come at an awkward time, but it's Thursday tomorrow, aside from the cinema, I'm not doing much.

Had enough time to vote me though didn't you!
Fidei86
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April 06 2016 22:58 GMT
#405
I'm liking Artanis and Kugari and Tumblewood from these latest interactions.
Fidei86
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April 06 2016 22:58 GMT
#406
Artanis is your only reason for voting me because I played dota?
Fidei86
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April 06 2016 22:59 GMT
#408
because that's kind of annoying. my first ml :'(
Fidei86
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April 06 2016 22:59 GMT
#411
Please switch
Fidei86
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April 06 2016 23:13 GMT
#420
Merde
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 12:19 GMT
#435
On April 07 2016 10:55 Gossemerr wrote:
OK so that last minute flip fest was interesting. Going to read and post my thoughts in a bit. I think we need to look at who flipped and why.

It's honestly posts like this which make me thinks Goss is Mafia. Like, saying we need to look at who flipped is possibly the most banal statement possible. It is basically just saying "we need to keep playing Mafia". The appearance of activity without actually doing anything.

Okay, okay, I'll re-read the thread and give some updated reads. I'm at lunch so can get away with it.

Also I don't know if anyone has looked at the time stamps of my pre-flip posts v Damdred's vote change. I haven't, but all I can say is that I didn't check the voting thread until after the EOD. I genuinely thought I was being lynched (and that made me sad because I have never been ML'ed in TL mafia).
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 12:20 GMT
#436
Also RIP boxerfred. Once in my life I want to play in a game where I'm not on the wrong side of a mislynch vote on you :-(
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 12:27 GMT
#437
On April 05 2016 10:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2016 10:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 05 2016 08:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hello friends! I'm Town and absolutely not Mafia. Let's hunt those evil doers down!


##Vote: Artanis

Ugh why the vote? I know he got his color mixed and all that but he probably was just looking for a reaction.

Reading through. I just wanted to say ... this post *facepalm*.
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 12:37 GMT
#438
On April 06 2016 14:16 CHodge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2016 08:59 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 05 2016 08:54 DoYouHas wrote:
On April 05 2016 08:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Yay I rolled town which I really wanted so I can change my play style. Let's find scum!

Change your playstyle from what to what?

From being a person who was town read for emotions to actually be town read for content. Ask Lexus for why

It's interesting to me that LightningStrike trying for this goal while actually producing quite little content. He/She has many posts finding an excuse to not call someone scum and even goes so far to post:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2016 22:56 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 05 2016 17:18 Spikasaur wrote:
Morning all

Morning any thoughts so far?

Besides not making him/herself an easy townread based on emotions, he/she hasn't actually made any attempt to push content or force through content. I'd surmise that he/she is rather passive as scum. Not a bad lynch.

Short break to say that my two regrets in our last game were #1 not shooting Half the Sky (who was mafia) n1 as vigilante, and #2 not shooting LS (who was town). Seriously. Trying to read LS is like trying to make sense of the weather. Some days it just rains and it doesn't make sense why. You sense logic there, but it is concealed behind layers of nonsense.
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 12:44 GMT
#439
Another break to say I literally can't believe we lynched boxerfred. I'm reading through his posts and agreeing with each of them.

I recognise that this is mostly my fault. But still. Seriously. Duuuuuudes.
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 12:48 GMT
#440
On April 07 2016 01:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Stop pretending to be marv, hf.

Shit is CHodge Holyflare????
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 12:51 GMT
#441
I'm at page 15 and I have my scum team already. Just need to double check with reference to the last seven pages.
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 13:09 GMT
#442
Okay, it took my whole lunch break, but I have read through the thread. I'll post my entire notes at the bottom, as I don't have time to fully post before I have to start working again.

The short is that I'm pretty sure Tumbleweed and Gossemerr are mafia.

MAFIA

Gossemerr's posts are pretty mediocre. I hate his read on Race at #287 and his last post at #390 was classic "let's see what happens". As far as I can see, he hasn't done anything useful.

Tumbleweed's entire filter can be summarised as follows: "this person might be mafia, but I'm not sure...". This is classic mafia play. It's so tentative, it's like me every time I try and kiss a girl on a third date.

My guess for third mafia is Artanis. I agree with everything Damdred said about Artanis being vocal and yet pointless at the same time. HOWEVER, I'm less sure on this because I'm not sure I see the value in a mafia Artanis leading a shennany on to me so late.

NULL BECAUSE TERRIBLE - WOULD LYNCH

2) Kuragari42
3) Spikasaur

TOWN PILE

Race Bannon is town. Ride or die. His post at #208 was spot on viz boxer. His comment at #265 on Artanis was spot on. He's been active and I've agreed with most of what he's said.

DYH is town. He pressured newbies to post early [#180], and I loved his early read on Tumblewood.

I think CHODGE is probably also town as well.

I'm leaning town on Damdred and GB, but I'm much more certain about Damdred than GB. GB has pretty much just shit-posted / over-thought things. But a lot of people have been pushing him. Damdred mod-confirmed me (accurately!) plus I feel the townie vibes generally.

LIGHTNING STRIKE PILE

At this point I have demonstrated that I can't even read LS when I'm scum. He and I speak totally different mafia languages. I would definitely vote to lynch him, but I say that every game and I always think I'm right on it.

====================================================

The Newblood
1) Race Bannon
#208 early town read on boxer from a newbie, when lots of other people posting, this guy is 100% town
#265 comments on Artanis' activity *pops champagne cork*
#294 this is so close to the bone, it has to be townie

2) Kuragari42
Is this guy playing?
#398 doesn't like lynches

3) Spikasaur
#204-#205 "hello"
#214 All filler no killer.
#390 switches to me for literally zero reason

4) Gossemerr
#287 read on Race Bannon. Hmmmm. reasoning is okay but something not quite right about it.
#350 okay prevarication read
#433 this is garbage "let's see what happens"

5) Fidei86 hehe

6) DoYouHas
I like him pressuring Newbies to post. [#180]
I like his read on Tumblewood (which I apparently missed in my first read through)

The Slightly old Blood

7) LightningStrike
#211 Lots of pressuring.
#264 town on CHodge, and I think this is townie

8) Artanis[xp]
This guy is mafia with Tumblewood [#260]
And his early vote on GB is garbage.
Starts shennanies on me. Why? I'm confused.

9) Damdred
#284 I think this is town Damdred. Also I think he switched off me because he knew my obvious town tells.
#298 pings artanis, likes racer, pings GB. Town.

10) boxerfred
RIP

11) CHodge
#217-#219 wtf. LS and RaceBannon lynches? And Tumblewood?
#242 this town read on Goss is garbage but also towny.
Tons of reads early.
#251 This scum read on GB makes a ton of sense.

12) Tumblewood
#193 Gathering reactions a good thing?
#197 AHHHHH over analysis, leading into a dead-end of nothingness without conclusions.
#253 Town points to CH for reads, but no reads himself
#291 more null reads *yawn*
#349 okay town points for this not being sure, reads more genuine

13) GlowingBear
#313 anyone scum reading BF gets mafia points, but I think this is more just GB overthinking things.
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 13:11 GMT
#443
I reserve the right to change these mostly terrible town reads at any time. Except my Race read. That one I'm like 99% on.
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 13:45 GMT
#444
I really want to hear from everyone who wasn't on either me, boxerfred or GB at the end though. Town was way too fractured.
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 13:49 GMT
#445
That's Goss, Ch and Racer.

Damn you racer, this is the only black mark against your otherwise impeccable town credentials.
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 13:57 GMT
#446
One more thing. I'm not "mod confirmed". My last post after the EOD post was literally a few fractions of a second late. I wouldn't have been mod-killed either way.
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 14:42 GMT
#448
On April 07 2016 23:37 Tumblewood wrote:
@Goss: You said at the start of the night phase that we needed to look at the flips and that you would post something in an hour or so... Why didn't you post anything?

Hey!
Rather than prodding a semi-inactive, why not give your thoughts on the WOTs I just posted. I call you out for being Mafia. I'd expect you to have at least something to say on it!
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 15:21 GMT
#450
Re Artanis, yeah my very first read was basically as a result of his EOD actions. Which were townie. But I thought his pre-EOD stuff, when I read it, was highly suspect.

Glad to hear I'm wrong on you though.
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 15:22 GMT
#451
Also you can totally pressure whoever you like whenever. It's just weird that you would scroll past literally an entire page worth of posting from me to randomly pick on someone who posted one unfulfilled promise ages ago. I find it weird anyway.
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 15:29 GMT
#452
Please now give us your reads btw. If I see one more "oh I'm not sure" post from you then I'm voting you and never moving.
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 18:18 GMT
#461
Fourth date this evening. I'll let y'all know how it goes.
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 18:28 GMT
#463
Tumble - re it being townie for reconsidering, the context is key. All through D1 you're like "lol, maybe?" On everyone. That's scummy. But reconsidering / ruling people out late is typically more townie than scummy. Which is what confuses me about you and Art.

Also this world where Goss has me and you as town, you have him and me as scum and I have you as scum and him as town is weird.
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 18:28 GMT
#464
On April 08 2016 03:18 Gossemerr wrote:
Hey Tumble why do you have such a strong read on Fidei? - I agree that he is not cleared, but it seems like you are reading him strongly scum through only disagreeing with his analysis?

This especially since you agreed with at least some of my reads.
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 18:33 GMT
#467
LS trying to rationalise posting all one liners.
Dani and Tina are laughing their asses of at us, somewhere.
Fidei86
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April 07 2016 18:39 GMT
#469
Laughing at me because I'm pretty sure your alignment is mega obvious, I just can't read you for shit.
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 07:34 GMT
#502
Hey GB, I'm on the Artanis wagon just as much as you are, but I'm struggling to see why he would lead shennanys onto me at the last minute. That urge to change something up is something I always get as town and that I never get as Mafia.
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 07:45 GMT
#503
Especially since he led the vote OFF you..
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 08:39 GMT
#505
Yeah my reasons for town reading GB are seriously "eh".

I was sort of just hoping that there would be one scum between you, Damdred and GB and that you'd figure it out and tell me.
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 12:14 GMT
#522
Look. Lightning Strike is not good at playing town. I don't know how much clearer I can make this - NOTHING HE EVER DOES MAKES ANY SENSE. HE NEVER SCUM HUNTS. HE ALWAYS LOOKS SCUMMY. I think the secret to catching him is finding him in a lie. I don't want to have to look through his filter, but I will if I must.

But I'm sort of getting Artanis fever re GB. Gonna read GB's filter now.
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 12:30 GMT
#523
Yeah okay, sign me up for the GB lynch wagon.

He posted this re his vote for BF:

"But way more important than that, he pushes Damdred but drop that push to go against tumblewood. I don't think that progression makes much sense."

BF never really had a strong Damdred read. He called out Damdred a few times, but that was it. At the same time, he started focussing more on TW. He then voted on TW, noting that he was still onto Damdred and would lynch either.

There is nothing inconsistent in that. At the same time, you had a bunch of people who were MUCH better targets (me, for starters!).

HOWEVER

I still think that town's best play is to lynch the AFK lurkers, Kuragari42 and Spikasaur. I abhor AFKers (recognise the irony, but I was unintentionally AFK). Basically, we're never going to figure out their alignment because they don't play. We're best off getting rid of them now (which might, at least, force them to reveal their true colours).

Also I hate the idea of losing to an AFK mafia player.

A mafia team of TW, GB +1 of the AFKers makes sense to me. I think Goss' reactions to my last post were decent enough, and lynching Artanis when he's one of the only people actually playing is dumb. If Artanis is mafia, we basically fuckin' lost.
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 12:33 GMT
#524
ALSO, I really really hope we have a cop rather than a vig. But if you are the vigilante, I really believe that it's better for you to hold your shot unless you are really sure of a read AND you can't get that read lynched. If the vig mis-shoots, we go to a 5-3 LYLO (or 4-2, or whatever) which is much much harder for town. Don't listen to anyone who tries to call you out for not shooting - it's a perfectly acceptable play.
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 12:33 GMT
#525
Artanis can you give me the juice on Racer? I'll read his filter now.
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 12:36 GMT
#526
[[NK WIFOM ALERT]] CHodge also really wanted to kill GB.
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 12:41 GMT
#527
The only thing I get from RB's filter is that Artanis and LS look like they're aligned. Checking LS's 'filter' now, for further clues.
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 12:46 GMT
#528
I hope you are happy, thread, because you FORCED ME to read LS's filter, and now I think he's scum again.

I TOLD YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN.

I honestly think we should lynch LS just for his bullshit boxerfred vote. Everything else is too meh to even recount.

But if LS is mafia, I think he could be with Artanis. There's just too much deflecting off each other in their threads. But obviously TW, GB, Artanis and LS can't all be mafia, especially not with two AFK newbs.

AHHHHHHHHH. DYH I NEED YOUR HELP PLEASE.
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 15:05 GMT
#543
On April 08 2016 23:30 Race Bannon wrote:
I can see LS as manipulative scum, encouraging CH because he's on the wrong path. If you don't that's fine but stop trying to steer me away and on to GB unless you can muster something better than what you have already.


??? Can you explain what you mean by this, because I keep reading it and I'm no closer to understanding your point.
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 15:06 GMT
#544
Welp ignore me, I thought you were going back to LS, but you were actually going back to Art.
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 16:35 GMT
#547
Rip
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 17:50 GMT
#554
@Goss I'll re-read your filter this evening. Off the top of my head, I'm not sure I like you piling on to GB. It's exactly what I did as Mafia - piling on to a mislynch with rehashed reasons. But that's without really considering your case fully.

Also off the top of my head, I'm thinking we should lynch one of the two newbie lurkers for now.
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 17:51 GMT
#555
Just realised that my reason for going after GB was stolen from Artanis. But it's okay when I do it because I'm town.

...

Consistency!
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 17:58 GMT
#556
Also I just realised that your new GB case is actually not re-hashed at all. Hmmmmmmmmm.
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 18:33 GMT
#558
Okay, now *that* is a rehash.
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 20:59 GMT
#579
On April 09 2016 05:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2016 05:21 DoYouHas wrote:
On April 09 2016 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Art, is pretty simple why you're scum.

You're scum because you had a clear scumread on me that you keep pushing without reconsidering it or without actually caring that much for other people (kinda like a tunnel)

But then, while your target IS getting lynched, you propose a shenannie. And it's not a case of not knowing who to lynched. I didn't found a single post where you consider I'm town ONCE. You just kept straight calling me mafia.

The part where you say neither me and race were here to defend ourselves is bullshit. Fidei wasn't either and it doesn't matter whether he wasn't becshse he was playing Dota or because he was busy saving a whale from Eskimos.

To those wondering what is the mafia morivation behind that: mislynching a townie and keep people discussing the lynch on another townie he was already easily pushing


+1. You just wrote most of my case.

I'll add that if Art was genuinely uncertain enough on your lynch that he would lead the shenanigans off of it, he would not have been so quick to jump right back on you. It seems to me that Art was trying to stay ahead of the curve, propose shenanigans before someone else could. Tie up votes on candidates he knew to be town.

Narrative. I switched to GB last minute when Fidei wasn't happening because I much preferred his lynch over BF.

??? I had the most votes until the last moment???
????
Fidei86
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April 08 2016 21:10 GMT
#581
I mean that's just not true. Everyone moved onto me and nobody spoke against it. Damdred only moved off me at the last minute, without posting in the thread (has he even explained that yet??)
Fidei86
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April 09 2016 16:55 GMT
#605
Guys. we are switching to Spika. He has enough posts to know he isn't lurking, but not enough to have contributed anything. Artanis might be mafia, but Spika is dead weight.

##Vote: Spikasaur
Fidei86
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April 09 2016 21:06 GMT
#624
I'm out with a friend at the moment, can someone remind me whether the deadline is 11 or midnight UK time?
Fidei86
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April 09 2016 21:50 GMT
#631
Artanis - what do you think of LightningStrike?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 21:51 GMT
#632
I'm curious because I can't see a reasonable defence of him, other than "well he's quite often like this" (putting it neutrally).
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 21:56 GMT
#636
I'm not against it, I'm just trying to see if there's a world in which GB and Art are both town. I was highly suspect of Artanis' day 1 up until EOD, but his points against GB have been good and Gb's response has basically been "lol w/e".

I need to sit down and think about things but I'm leaning GB over Art. It doesn't look like we'll need to lynch Spika anyway, since he (along with the rest of town it seems) is all gonna get modkilled anyway.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 22:00 GMT
#639
Like we're in a game where everyone is AFK, but maybe half the town aren't really even trying. Art and GB are both making some posts (GB's are worse, by a long way, but still). It's just weird that two of our more experienced players have set themselves up like this.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 22:02 GMT
#640
When I saw Artanis as Mafia in resistance he kept his options open and played the field a lot more. GB I've only seen as town, apart from once where he was nailed by rayn. This does seem more like his scum meta (indifferent but not that thoughtful).
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 22:07 GMT
#643
I had him as hardcore town early on. I need to re-read his filter. The bigger problem I see is that him, TW and Goss all have basically hard aligned with either you or GB (maybe less for TW, since he has been so wishy washy). There are a lot of people parroting each other and not really thinking independently. Or that's how it looks. You can't all be Mafia though ...
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 22:09 GMT
#644
Artanis I don't understand your read on LS.

Can you please point me to one towns thing he is done that is beyond cursory.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 22:11 GMT
#646
I said from the start that I'm shit at reading LS because I always think he's scum. But if I was looking at his filter objectively, and without my previous history with him and his numerous insane throws, I'd be voting on him and would never move.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 22:12 GMT
#647
On April 10 2016 07:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok so Tumblewood just guaranteed I am lynched before Artanis. I'm taking a bath and explain in details why Artanis is Mafia so you people can start thinking at least once.

If I die, after my flip, you guys lynch Artanis and Tumblewood. They are pretty hard aligned.

Tumblewood doesn't have a single reason to call me Mafia. As far as I remember, he leaned town on me for most of the game. And now is inexplicably voting me.

Use your brains.

I've been on the TW wagon from the start, but isn't there a world where he's Mafia and Art isn't?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 22:18 GMT
#651
Right, I'm home. First, Racer's filter.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 22:34 GMT
#671
Okay, so RB's whole game appears to be "LS called CH town and was right, and his reasons were bad, so he's mafia".

???

LS is ALWAYS BAD in most people's eyes. I don't know why I have to explain this to people still. I've said this like ten times.

The thing I really don't get about RB's push on LS, however, is how he hasn't interacted really with anyone else on it - especially not me. If I was *that* sure someone was mafia, and there was another playing posting incessantly negative things about my target, I'd be hitting them up for support.

That was tortured, but yeah ... I'm starting to dig the Race mafia case. My early read on him was based mostly on his picking out bf early as town, from a crowded field, for reasons that looked good after the fact. But since the middle of day 1 ish, his weird LS tunnel has me concerned.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 22:39 GMT
#679
Damdred care to weigh in on the lynch?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 22:39 GMT
#681
On April 10 2016 07:38 LightningStrike wrote:
I up for a RB lynch if we got the people for it.

You being up for it makes me not up for it.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 22:40 GMT
#686
On April 10 2016 07:40 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2016 07:39 Fidei86 wrote:
On April 10 2016 07:38 LightningStrike wrote:
I up for a RB lynch if we got the people for it.

You being up for it makes me not up for it.

Why?

Because your only reason to vote for him, according to your filter and his, is because he is voting you.

Or is there something I've missed?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 22:44 GMT
#690
GB I have to say, I think that's a bad case. I get cold feet as town all the time. I led a terrible shennany in our last Student game (onto town, FML).

And honestly, Artanis' meta read on me was 100% accurate. I get horrible stage-fright as mafia. As town I'm usually pretty try-hard (or, at least, you should be able to see I care quite a lot about getting it right).

The truth is, I was playing in a five stack with people I don't play with very often but like to, when the other option was being dumped into a mafia game I'd only just found out I was in, two hours before deadline. And mafia is hard work and dota is easy. But I don't think Artanis would have known that - certainly it wasn't clear from my posts.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 22:46 GMT
#696
I want to say that I think in a perfect world we would lynch one of the many lurkers or LS (because LS is a coin-flip and I hate coin-flips late in game). But I can see the sense in choosing between GB and Artanis, not least because LS pushing Racer has me all sorts of concerned. So, yeah. Sorry GB.

##Vote: GlowingBear
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 22:47 GMT
#698
Also for the record yes, I'm now voting with my two top mafia picks against someone I had in my town pile (and who is aligned with someone else I had in my SUPER TOWN pile).

:-\
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 22:48 GMT
#704
I promise nothing.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 22:51 GMT
#710
On April 10 2016 07:49 GlowingBear wrote:
GG, fuck this

Artanis, Tumblewood, LS - maybe Spikasaur if I am wrong in one of these.

Race Bannon is town.

To be fair I'm more certain that Tumble is mafia over Artanis. But now it's too late.

Why is Bannon town?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 22:53 GMT
#718
okay so now I have to read TW with like five minutes to go

arrhhhh I can't take the pressure
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 09 2016 22:58 GMT
#735
On April 10 2016 07:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Lynch rb.

Are you actually fucking kidding me with this right now LS. JESUS. FUCK.

FUCK. FUuuuuuck. I wish I was the fucking vigi this game so I could shoot you.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 10 2016 00:04 GMT
#751
yeah i'm voting LS and never moving
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 10 2016 00:04 GMT
#752
well, although I want a DYH explanation
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 10 2016 01:53 GMT
#754
yeah you're mafia
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 10 2016 01:54 GMT
#755
LS you'd better kill me tonight because I can see no plausible scenario in which I do not vote you
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 10 2016 09:11 GMT
#759
Too much weirdness in that last vote. DYH and Damdred both showing up late and voting TW was curious as well.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 10 2016 09:11 GMT
#760
Also .. posting gifs of someone punching someone else? Stay fucking classy mate.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 11 2016 09:18 GMT
#799
GG
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
April 17 2016 08:51 GMT
#1131
The important thing is that my no-ml streak is now up to 7.
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