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Fecalfeast
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Tumblewood
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On March 03 2016 13:39 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Until then, gonna read some filters and go find a scum. This was an hour ago... You found anything yet? | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On March 03 2016 15:08 Shapelog wrote: I was filter diving a mz. Dadmdred and i found a few posts talking about Koshi. What do you think about these? Right now I am investigating if FF and Damdred is the scum team (I do not think so) so I am a tad bit tied up. Honestly these look more like Damdred is spewing Koshi town imo... + Show Spoiler + Too easily calling Koshi town kus Damdred know's he's town | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
On March 03 2016 15:14 Fecalfeast wrote: I hate early busing and if damdred and I were on a team i would be heavily against such a bus, if that means anything I hate that I'm leaning town on you for REALLY SHITTY REASONS... | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
How many more filters to go buddy? | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
On March 01 2016 05:24 TheCow wrote: I do not understand the point of the philosophy being posted in this thread. It seems like filler discussion to me. Sential is sticking out to me. I am reading the slot as scum at this point. The current meta-ing occurring looks like a dead-end and I do not understand why it is still being pursued. How many games has Viscera played? On March 01 2016 05:44 TheCow wrote: #243-244 appears to be an attempt to discredit the attack against Sentinel -- his partner. Leveraging the style of qob as well as his newness to sidestep the read. Like I really would like to know. Because Cow went after Uon/FF basically from the gecko, even calling them lock scum. Anyways on to Damdreds filter: On February 29 2016 10:24 Damdred wrote: 100% it's always best to go 1 v 1 in this setup. So how do you think we should read teams sand? Do you think we should desperate and read people separate and just pick the slimmest person and do away with that group? Funny enough, this sort of reads more of QT slip after this whole fake claim jailer shit. Leik i cant support it, just feelz like that. On March 01 2016 11:50 Damdred wrote: Actually yes I was sort of waiting for FF to respond to me in serousness but hes not, and this is the reasoning behind why I asked FF his read on QOB. There are a couple of mindsets that you have as town in a game when someone comes after you, like qob is doing to FF. 1) This person is scum trying to discredit me or try to get a mislynch on me. 2) This person after careful consideration is town whos in a tunnel, but they are still town. Generally especially early in the game mindset one is really prominent especially when information isn't as readily available. Here is what FF said FF instead of trying to figure out QOB alignment or even divulge his read on him automatically takes mindset two. It is hinted at strongly by the sentence structure and how he says it, he sees QOB as being misguided and scum can't be misguided for going after a towny, only a town can be misguided. So FF townreads QOB for going after his team in Sent and FF. I wanted FF to explain his townread, becuase my initial feelings is that FF is scum who slipped because he knows he deserves the pressure. Big post that throws a lot of Dirt on FF, ox at least trieys to. On March 02 2016 05:42 Damdred wrote: Leaves me with tt, rels and ff. I think this is a good pie place to start with, honestly I think sent and ff should be the first lynch today. The activity and lack of anything I think shows to a scum mindset. I think rels group is the second, rels scum reads don't make a lot of sense to an extent and he's not being the prescrbse that I think he would generally be. Tt I likes several of his posts and his tone felt right to me early, Now any questions? Scum the Gay gait gaint and FF. This could explain why Damdred voted Relz over FF in the long run, and explains why Dmadred voted FF first. On March 02 2016 06:11 Damdred wrote: FF is a smart player generally who has good reads and besides the cell game he was out of early he rolled scum 3-4 times in a row I'm the cell game he was taken put of he said that he was super tires of rolling scum and happy he rolled tpwm. Just from a tone standpoint he 100% shows none of his joy/happiness that he rolled town. Instead it is more of a resignation it feels like. His dodging of my question and then saying I was stretching my thought on his scum slip. And since then basically hasn't done anything that says town ff. Sents vote on me also feels super opportunistic without any real thought behind it. I'll give more reasons for sent in a moment. More dirt thrown. Look I am just going to skizp some of the dirt throwing posts on FF/UON. On March 02 2016 08:34 Damdred wrote: I could just be terrible reading to much into ff. If he's actually playing tonight tommorow I could get a better read. I think Rels is scum to though. So I'm Ok with either. This strikes odd, he spent most of D1 explaining how FF was scum, but yet now does a 180. What is worse, is we know he is mafia. So lets demostrike: If both wagons are town, mafia does not gain a lot. It also make you look sus. for doing a 180 on your read progression. I guess it could be a move to throw sus. off of you (A WIFOM lynch, lol i thinkz i invented something.) If FF/UON is scum, you potentially fuck yourself over for switching your vote like that for very bad reasons. Damdred vote was second on the Rels wagon. It would be incredibly ballzwe for that scum team to jeopardize themselves like that. I want to say it makes FF look more town because it was a play that could get the whole scum team easily caught. But let me look further and see how much pressure he threw on the wagons. On March 02 2016 09:15 Damdred wrote: You have to put me under town now qob Boss is in and out, Rels is a gut reaction idk about ff another 24 hrs to figure then out if they played wouldn't be bad. Rels was just acting strangely with how he did things, quite differently then normal. And hi a vote not really caring about the lynch is meh for Rels even if drunk. On March 02 2016 09:51 Damdred wrote: I'm voting for Rels team because I expect more of him then going on an off wagon. He's not picking on the little things as much as I am used to either. While his filter looks good I think it's missing some of the things that Rels does as town. This is some hard pressuring for me to believe it was 2 townies. He basically just pushed a opportunistic piece of meat without caring about FF. And in experience, if the wagon was town V town, Damdred would just not czare as much... But..... Unless, ephyincal monment, he took a oppertunsic way to get rid of a strong town player like Rels! I could see that happening. Rels (No offense UON/FF) is seen as a much bigger threat and knocking them off would be a big score for mafia. On March 03 2016 07:46 Damdred wrote: I t hink I can't really say FF and Sent aren't scum here <<. Neither have really said anything worthwhile, sent has started to try to discredit my claim a bit or at least try to soften it which is kind of scummy in my mind. And FF hasn't really played and Sent hasn't either. I would lynch them next. I don't have a super good scum read outside of those two, and i'm hurrying this along at this point. I have strong townreads on Marv, Koshi I think they are town: Kush, VE This leaves me with poe list of FF and TT. I'm not sure I like the TT team being here or not. And right back to where we Were. With all the other posts, I feel that Damdred was setting up a ML on FF/UON. Which would of been widely support and prob. would not raise much sus. on Damdred. Basically a safe lynch. Most of the evdince here supports my hypothesus that they are not scum together. | ||
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Shapelog
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Shapelog
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On March 03 2016 15:22 Tictock wrote: I hate that I'm leaning town on you for REALLY SHITTY REASONS... I hatr that I habe to call you confirmEd town instead of lynching you for sprits.  | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
I kinda liked messing with your head as mafia better ^.^ | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
On March 03 2016 15:35 Tictock wrote: So shape, we got to play as town together for a change huh? I kinda liked messing with your head as mafia better ^.^ No! I goinz to get my RUM! and Traxk your ass to a NK you pizzA head. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
If you can't tell I'm enjoying being confirmed though! | ||
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Shapelog
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Shapelog
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On March 03 2016 15:37 Tictock wrote: Blues can be a bitch bro... If you can't tell I'm enjoying being confirmed though! No! OnWD# CazRRRRRRRRRRS!!!!? | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
YoU ScuMBags! | ||
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Tictock
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Shapelog
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WuiCh OnE og U do i o? | ||
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Shapelog
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Tictock
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sandroba/qob As Team Innoncent Are Scum ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ndu6KkQ.jpg) Damdred played for the CC, it's very clear from the get go that he intended to do this because he and Sandroba started off the game discussing how blues should claim... Notice Damdred often posted that Blues should def go 1v1 in this setup. He is intentionally trying to get everyone into the mindset of blues claiming and CCing in a certain way. So when he fake-claimed JK there is no way his partner was not trying to set themselves up to get as much cred as possible for pushing Damdred. On March 03 2016 05:02 sandroba wrote: But really damdred/cow were supposed to be mafia instead. Look at the way Sand handled EoD after Damdred claimed, he really had no strong feelings for any wagon. Kept saying Rels looked so towny so he wouldn't vote him, Kinda bounced between My team and FF's as an alternate. It's actually weird how he keeps referencing "better vote you then Rels!" it's like he knows Rels is going to flip town but doesn't care. There is also a lot of passing off blame to his junior. "Oh I don't really know who to lynch, lets let Qob see if he's right" This stuff is what cliches it for me On March 03 2016 12:48 sandroba wrote: Of course I was begging for someone to CC. I was like 95% sure dude was mafia and you came in with the phrase "I believe damdred claimed blue is that correct?". That was the response from Sand when I accuse him of baiting a CC with this post: On March 02 2016 09:56 sandroba wrote: It is correct. If you have something to say about that now is the time. I have a real hard time believing a town!Sandroba see's me come in right before EoD posting "Oh I see Damdred claimed blue?" and his first thought being "Is this guy blue?" This is also 4min! before EoD and is clearly a TERRIBLE time for a CC. At this point any town should have been pretty certain that Damdred was JK and assumed I was just asking because I was just sitting down. But lets assume for a moment that Sandroba was still thinking Damdred was scum at EoD, why then does he take such a defensive position of Damdred when I start to question his claim D2? On March 03 2016 10:07 sandroba wrote: Well I we have no other claims we have no choice but to believe him. Maybe mafia's plan is to entice a possible parity cop into coming foward and possibly lynching team cow? On March 03 2016 10:30 sandroba wrote: Damdred isn't up for consideration, dunno why TT wrote that theory. Like IF some parity cop ends up flipping we CAN think about damdred being mafia. Otherwise treat him as confirmed. The bolded is really interesting, first off a Cop claim never weakens Damdred's JK claim and if you think about mafia's perspective right now what is the role that is in the game? Cop. No town would be thinking that a cop claiming means anything about Damdred's JK claim and this is 2 instances right off of Sand trying to influence a cop to claim so that they somehow have grounds to lynch Damdred. But look at his reactions to my CC of Damdred. On March 03 2016 10:41 sandroba wrote: Honestly TT, as much as I want to be right about Team Cownadow day 1 my first instinct is that you are the liar here. On March 03 2016 10:44 sandroba wrote: That logic is retarded. If damdred is mafia and delivering the shot we would see the exact same result as if mafia shot him. And then you would say it's 2 "confirmed town". I find it hard to believe you put this little thought into your plan. Just a moment ago Sand was totally willing to consider a Cop claim and reconsider Damdred for it, but when I CC JK Sand goes on the defensive. This is such an odd change in stance and it really looks like Sand was SURE there had to be a cop out there which only makes sense if he knew Damdred was not a JK. + Show Spoiler + Just in case that's not clear. Cop is the only role that would not think a JK role is out of place because Cop/JK is the only 2 blue setup possible. So Mafia claim JK, get no CC. They can therefor assume the only blue in the game is a Cop. Look at the way Sand reacted to the sudden Night post, no reaction to Damdred's flip he didn't try to look for new info from that like Shape did. He goes, "Oh well, ok then guess it's easy PoE into these 2 teams" and after he does all this defending from my sudden push on him he throws this out like he's suddenly figured the game out. On March 03 2016 13:15 sandroba wrote: Yes, but that even fits tbh. I'm pretty sure when they claimed JK they thought there was a extremelly high chance they would get counter claimed and lynched. Now you ask: Why would a scummer employ such a high risk tactic when they had like 3 votes on them and 3 hours to argue themselves out of the hole? The easiest explanation and the only one I can find that fits the whole picture: Because their partner was the second wagon up for lynch. Using a suicide tactic in this situation would be win-win, because in the worst case scenario would be the status quo. Throwing their vote on their partner in this situation is the most sensible thing to do, for distancing and giving them the best chance of winning the game after they get lynched. After typing all this out I'm pretty certain Team ANAL is the last mafia. It also explains why I kept getting the feeling FF was gloating the whole time, it was because they had escape a double mafia lynch intact. It all makes sense. Who's your daddy? This is flailing at best, I mean he's agreeing with a post UN made, to conclude that UN is scum? This story also makes 0 sense, because Damdred's claim would MOST likely cause the wagon on Anal Prolapse to grow, and there is no way that Damdred would survive the game after fakeclaiming. This also TOTALLY ignores that Damdred suggested lynching FF in his EoN post. It makes 0 sense for FF and Damfred to be a team, but Sand is trying to scramble kus of my push. | ||
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Tictock
United States6052 Posts
Sandroba is scum! - Weird convo about blues right off the bat with Damdred - Said this during night: But really damdred/cow were supposed to be mafia instead. - He was waiting for a CC right at EoD - Assumed a Cop would be claiming D2 - Thought a Cop claim was valid reason to rethink Damdred, but not my CC - Claimed he thought Damdred was 95% scum at EoD | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
Anyway I've been thinking and I found another theory that explains the Rels lynch shenanigans, pehaps better than the other one. If VE/bum is cownadow's partner, then it would make sense that after damdy's gambit payed off he would leverage his "confirmed" status to get rid of Rels, because he was the main threat against VE at that point and it wasn't looking like he would ever let go. Also the fact that Rels was afk drunk made it an easy thing to do. Also that would also explain why marvelocity got killed, because even after arguing with VE for 2 pages he wouldn't let him off the hook. The only thing that this fails to explain is why damdred/cow gave up and went with the claim plan so early. One possible explanation is that cow was gone and damdred got flustered by the bad start and just decided to suicide with added value of unearthing a blue. That would kinda make sense because after he miraculously got away with his claim he didn't actually tried to abuse his position at all during the night, meaning he was ready to give up and stop playing the game. All of this coupled with the very weird reasoning and voting by VE eod 1 question by marv, the refusal to play the game by his partner bum, the busted meta case on TT on the begging of the game makes team OMGUS pehaps even a better inicial lynch than team ANAL. | ||
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