Pinged my interest right off with this:
On February 29 2016 10:14 sandroba wrote:
yo damdred. How do you think we should deal with people that claim blue right before they get lynched?
This is such an odd question right off the bat. It looks like sand saw Damdred post, decided to ask him a question, and then thought up a good question to ask. I see no reason for a towny to be worried about how a blue should claim in the first 5 min of the game.
The followups from this suggest no actual opinions or thoughts about the game from sand. It's pretty telling that Sand wanted to ask about blues claiming (something mafia cares about more than town should) with Damdred, but had no thoughts on how best to approach reading pairs of people (something town SHOULD care about a lot)
On February 29 2016 10:30 sandroba wrote:
Had not put much thought into that, but I believe it's optimal to lynch the person we believe the most is mafia should be lynched regarless of how the teamate is behaving.
This is also a pretty scummy answer imo, and it's exactly what his partner had been doing, focusing one person.
I think we have to consider each team as a slot, and town needs to win by lynching the 2 scum slots. There is no reason to discount half of the info we have on on a slot because one person seems like an easier read than the other.
This post is an example of something I tried to call Kita out for in the PyP game, I'm gunna call it "The Red Perspective" or thinking with a mafia mindset. This was in response to Kush asking "why not consider both players"
On February 29 2016 11:02 sandroba wrote:
Because mafia is trying to pretend they are town, while town isn't trying to pretend they are mafia. Oversimplified pehaps, but still should be a good guideline.
Ofc, both alignments know that Scum want to look like town, but look at the bold. This is not a town mindset at all, this is sand just reversing his scum mindset, but it doesn't actually mean anything. Why? Kus mafia want to look like town, but town want to Solve the Game! So this reasoning is not only flawed but it's flawed because Sand is not looking at the game from a townmindset.
This also stuck out as odd to me.
On March 01 2016 05:29 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 05:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
And at this point, I don't care! Someone present a better alternative or shut the fuck up! I'll be back later on to see what's happening. BYE!!!
Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 05:24 TheCow wrote:
I do not understand the point of the philosophy being posted in this thread. It seems like filler discussion to me.
Sential is sticking out to me. I am reading the slot as scum at this point.
The current meta-ing occurring looks like a dead-end and I do not understand why it is still being pursued.
How many games has Viscera played?
Ask and you shall recieve. Cow just made it to my number one suspect based on this post alone.
On March 01 2016 05:39 sandroba wrote:
His post sounds fake as shit. Says he can't understand the "philosophy" of the thread (w/e that means) and it's mostly filler discussion right when the game is starting to pick up, and his post itselft is filler with no reasoning for anything or any new ideas. The comentary on the meta ignores the fact we are questioning the player who made said meta and dismisses it for no reason. Pretty much as generic filler fake post as you can get. Doesn't sound like a townie interested in people's alignments at all.
This completly ignores that Cow is pretty clearly a newbie player and personally I find this explanation pumped up unneccesarily. Was Cow's post filled with tons of reads and great reasoning? No, but it was commenting on the important stuff going on with his opinion and thoughts.
I find the bolded line especially forced here, this doesn't look like a read to me at all. It looks like a hastily made and forced read. Sand isn't trying to think about Cow being scum or Town here, he's jumping at something going "look at this scummy thing! lets kill it!"
On March 01 2016 06:13 sandroba wrote:
Quite an arduous job to read without the filter function, but from the town game I read from him his tone is more inquisitive / tentative / hedging his bets as opposed to more assertive in his mafia game.
I gather that Cow and qop played together a bit so Cow sheeping qop's sentinel read does not look as fake as I had thoght. Still, his overall tone looks more in line with his mafia game.
Lol points for the big word to make us feel the pain of reading a game without a filter. Also what is this trying to use meta based on 1 post?
This was after discussing how VE's use of meta was questionable...
He also "gathers" that his partner has played with Cow before, but hasn't spoken to him about their reads? Didn't qod suggest there was nothing scummy about cow based on his own esperience? I just find this whole read really weird.
On March 01 2016 11:43 sandroba wrote:
Damdy all your post did nothing at all to the game, just took up space =/. And your partner is scummy as shit. Can you provide some amazing insight?
On March 01 2016 11:54 sandroba wrote:
Damdy, I might be biased here, but the qob town read I believe is pretty obvious. Not saying FF is town, but is that your best hint at a mafia this game?
Idk this feels weird to me, like he's accusing Damdred of being scummy kus he thinks Cow is scummy.
Worst of all he ignored my question to him.
On March 01 2016 08:04 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2016 06:13 sandroba wrote:
Quite an arduous job to read without the filter function, but from the town game I read from him his tone is more inquisitive / tentative / hedging his bets as opposed to more assertive in his mafia game.
I gather that Cow and qop played together a bit so Cow sheeping qop's sentinel read does not look as fake as I had thoght. Still, his overall tone looks more in line with his mafia game.
Since you seem fairly convinced Cow is scum. What do you think of Damdred's posting?
What did you get from your questions to him at the start of the game?
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