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nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 27 2016 01:57 GMT
#1401
yo ritoky we gotta use our ask the girls power. why aren't you using it?
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5186 Posts
February 27 2016 01:59 GMT
#1402
We should ask art. to change it to the ask the girls power instead of poll the Obs.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5186 Posts
February 27 2016 02:01 GMT
#1403
Maybe I am just being a idiot, and it is really darth.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 27 2016 02:06 GMT
#1404
It's not fucking me. For people with more experience with town!Rels, I know this is not gonna hold completely true because of the theme to this game, but is he known for tunneling and clearing people based off of the type of stuff he's cleared LS? I'm gonna look into the way LS played in Star Wars once he replaced Onegu, but if I recall he was much more involved in clearing himself/finding scum. Will read his filter for that game
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 27 2016 02:12 GMT
#1405
On February 27 2016 11:06 darthfoley wrote:
It's not fucking me. For people with more experience with town!Rels, I know this is not gonna hold completely true because of the theme to this game, but is he known for tunneling and clearing people based off of the type of stuff he's cleared LS? I'm gonna look into the way LS played in Star Wars once he replaced Onegu, but if I recall he was much more involved in clearing himself/finding scum. Will read his filter for that game


Are we reading the same thread?? Rels has been the most vocal, protown person this game. You may think he's wrong or even scum, but he's still been the most vocal protown person in the game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
February 27 2016 02:14 GMT
#1406
On February 27 2016 11:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2016 11:06 darthfoley wrote:
It's not fucking me. For people with more experience with town!Rels, I know this is not gonna hold completely true because of the theme to this game, but is he known for tunneling and clearing people based off of the type of stuff he's cleared LS? I'm gonna look into the way LS played in Star Wars once he replaced Onegu, but if I recall he was much more involved in clearing himself/finding scum. Will read his filter for that game


Are we reading the same thread?? Rels has been the most vocal, protown person this game. You may think he's wrong or even scum, but he's still been the most vocal protown person in the game.


Go away you tool, from being contributive at the start you got to just being mocking background noise now. Doesnt matter if Rels sounds protown or active, hes one able to easily fabricate that as mafia.

I'm actually unvoting cause the more darth posts the more im convinced hes town.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 27 2016 02:21 GMT
#1407
On February 27 2016 11:14 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2016 11:12 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 27 2016 11:06 darthfoley wrote:
It's not fucking me. For people with more experience with town!Rels, I know this is not gonna hold completely true because of the theme to this game, but is he known for tunneling and clearing people based off of the type of stuff he's cleared LS? I'm gonna look into the way LS played in Star Wars once he replaced Onegu, but if I recall he was much more involved in clearing himself/finding scum. Will read his filter for that game


Are we reading the same thread?? Rels has been the most vocal, protown person this game. You may think he's wrong or even scum, but he's still been the most vocal protown person in the game.


Go away you tool, from being contributive at the start you got to just being mocking background noise now. Doesnt matter if Rels sounds protown or active, hes one able to easily fabricate that as mafia.

I'm actually unvoting cause the more darth posts the more im convinced hes town.


bruh, why you gotta insult like that..
i'm just saying what darth is saying is not making sense to me.
Do you get what angle I'm shooting at?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 27 2016 02:23 GMT
#1408
ohhh sry i misunderstood darth. i thought he was talking about rels when he was actually talking about ls lol.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 27 2016 02:24 GMT
#1409
What particularly is town from darth, vivax? Help me see the light.
Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
February 27 2016 02:26 GMT
#1410
The Last Readbender's Sick Opinion on Cell Block C! Darthfoley!

Darth - Post 145: Starts off with his opinion on each cell, claims VA is an easy read.
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I think A is a hard cell; Kuragari was low activity lynchbait in the only game I played with him; you're good and you've coached me so i'm wary of you for that reason, and I haven't played with SL before, but spec'd a game or two of his (no read on him).

Cell B: I've played one game with scum!Shapelog and he was quite spammy; only game i've played with Damdred he was killed N1 because he was almost universally town read. Never played with OWS.

Cell C: Played with Rels in Star Wars now that I think about it, I correctly town read him for most of the game until he was NK'd. LS replaced into that game and successfully made people correctly read him town pretty quickly, though people were reading AFK Onegu scum. In my one scum game I was trash, and I think I've been not lynch bait and halfway decent in my other games as town; i'm a pretty solid read for some people in this game. I don't agree with Damdred's analysis of cell C-- I don't think i'm lynch bait.

Cell D: I've played a couple games with VA and I think I have a basic read on his play. He's one of the few people I feel "comfortable" reading (see Unoriginal + Star Wars games). Never played with FF or Breshke, so i'll keep an eye on them but meh for right now. I would rate this a harder cell.

Cell E: Rather comfortable playing with Kush (3 games now I think, as scum team + both town). All I know about Vivax is that he got early scum read in PYP and from what you guys said, he's more afk as mafia(?). Don't know bum at all.

I'm not really sure what strategy we use to determine cell order. I'm most wary of cells D and E in terms of people I don't know.
NAI because it is merely listing what he knows about each player.

Post 254: He doesn't want powers used on his cell.
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I've read over the thread again and read through you and ritoky's filter.

I have a pretty strong TR on you right now. I like that you got down to business pretty early and explained your reasoning behind your cell order. I don't actually agree with it though-- after I've thought about the game format, I think cell C should be 2nd or 3rd, for reasons ritoky has already mentioned. (my order is below)

I also am currently town reading ritoky, but as I've mentioned i'm always kinda hesitant with him because he coached me very well in my last game as town and I feel like i'm an easy pocket for him. Part of the reason why I TR him is because I think his progression on me so far comes from town!ritoky-- the one longish post I made wasn't particularly great in any way. It actually makes me think he's more town for raising questions about my play. (Not trying to buddy or pocket me).

Personally i'm fine with either of you being mayor so far. Will probably hold my vote for a bit, but I like ritoky's cell order better than yours currently... so I am leaning to vote him.

Right now my cell order would be D/E C A B. I'm more comfortable with D going first because I think I have a decent grasp of Kush's play, and others have a good grasp of Vivax. In terms of powers, I would consider using one on group D but I don't think it's wise to use either on my cell. I think using the other one on cell A, or perhaps E is also good.

Why do you want your cell 4th and cell A 5th?
Not sure what to think here. I can see town and scum reasons behind this.

Post 255: Buddies Bresh for an easy imitation of town. + Show Spoiler +
On February 23 2016 16:05 darthfoley wrote:
I know Breshke hasn't posted much but I liked this post of his

Show nested quote +
On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote:
On February 23 2016 08:16 nooniansoong wrote:
Of course order needs to be reevaluated closer to EoD depending on how people look so far.
I am kind of in agreement with ritoky's order, but more active people should be put first. D might be better to save just because those are all low content players, so deciding early on them might be hard.


im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party.

I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier


Why would mafia not want an AFK party near the end? Also, didn't particularly like Kush's response

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On February 23 2016 08:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Inactive people in early cells is bad because there's not a lot of content to go off of


While that's true, you're kinda just kicking the can down the road if you want to keep AFK people in longer. Wouldn't town benefit longer from having many active players left in longer?
I see this coming more from scum than town.


Post 575 calls out FF townreaders. Buddies Breshke for (imo) NAI things, surprisingly weak read on VA. + Show Spoiler +
On February 24 2016 10:39 darthfoley wrote:
Meh I've gone through VA/FF/Breshke's filters and I don't really have strong vibes from any of them.

I'm not sure why people are town reading FF. Most of his posts about other games or kinda useless. I found it kinda weird when he called Breshke out for talking actively about cell order pros/cons.

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On February 23 2016 09:24 Fecalfeast wrote:
Oh so I'm in a cell with breshke.

All his posts are pretty benign questions that don't talk about anyone, just about cell order. If he's so interested in cell order why is he so disinterested in mayor?

Mostly setup talk so far actually so it's not enough to call him scum but I don't particularly like anything he's posted so far


Posts he was referencing:
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On February 23 2016 07:25 Breshke wrote:
Should all would be mayors post what their cell order would be since that is really the only thing that would differentiate them?

Just at a quick glance ritoky like say without reading anyone's posts what would you make the order?


On February 23 2016 07:35 Breshke wrote:
Rit is the assumption right that you want to put the "strong" players in the final cells and the weaker players in the early cells?

Or is cell 4 more important than cell 5 because cell 5 you have like all the information to go off?


On February 23 2016 08:24 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2016 08:16 nooniansoong wrote:
Of course order needs to be reevaluated closer to EoD depending on how people look so far.
I am kind of in agreement with ritoky's order, but more active people should be put first. D might be better to save just because those are all low content players, so deciding early on them might be hard.


im kind of confused here though. If all the active people are put in the earlier phases won't that mean the later phases are just an afk party.

I thought you would do it the other way around and put cells with the less active people earlier



I don't think any of these posts are bad, and they give me a towny vibe from Breshke. You don't have to be running for mayor to care about cell order. This sounds like someone trying to work through the strategy of cell order from town perspective.

VA I am slightly scum reading right now... I liked Kush's reasoning behind his cell order and where to put easy/hard cells more than VA's argument, but I am not sure if that's alignment indicative yet. Seems like a mafia thing to want: planting the hard cells early so they just win a quick 3-0 or 3-1. VA's only real contribution so far is that on the off chance we get to cell 5 and the game is going, town will have a better chance of winning. I think Kush's approach of win now rather than later is much more town oriented.

Think we should think about 50/50 here if the play doesn't pick up
I'd think that scum would want to throw suspicion on town, except that in this game (as I believe someone already said) it makes you look bad if the person gets 50/50'd. Same goes for TR'ing Breshke since the 50/50 makes it much easier to find the scum. I found the VA read very weak considering how confident DF said he could read him.

Post 640: I believe this post has some good points. + Show Spoiler +
On February 25 2016 01:52 darthfoley wrote:
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Rels:
FF => kinda useless, don't know. Hope he's chosen by 50/50 if he's town.



Can you please explain how he's been "kinda useless" when i've been super scum read by you as "useless"? His filter is absolute ass.

Also, please explain how the hell you concluded that VA has been "aggressively" posting his thoughts and reads? You mean his one page filter, or his scummy ideas about cell order? Or maybe THESE "aggressive" reads l0l

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On February 24 2016 04:53 VayneAuthority wrote:
potential tinfoil is that one of damdred/ritoky is scum because surely at least one tried to obtain scum mayor? But I mean its not really THAT powerful to be mayor so meh. not really important


Good to know that this stupid tin foil post is not really important, thanks! He also says early Damdred is posting 100% town but then includes him in a potential scum mayor tinfoil with ritoky. He should only be implying that ritoky would be scum!mayor because Damdred is town in his eyes. Also, he didn't even vote for the mayor candidate that he said was 100% town. How the hell do you town read this?

Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 00:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 25 2016 00:23 Rels wrote:
On February 25 2016 00:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
iim just waiting for ritoky to 50/50 this thing I dont feel like analyzing this shit if i have a 33% of being removed from the game immediately

Your gut reads on FF and Breshke ?


breshke scum

my updated list is

breshke, darthfoley, vivax, obi, SL


Wow, what aggressive reads: he's scum reading two people in the first two cells that everyone seems to be scum reading (Breshke, now me apparently). How original. It'd be great for mafia to go up 2-0


These are shitty reads from town rels imo





Posts 643-693 feel townie to me (odd since darth usually reads as scum to me).

Post 746: False. There were only 6/15 people on Breshke.
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VA I've never said that i'm set in my scum read of you. But when 8/15 people have already voted for Breshke, and there are 5/15 mafia in the game, I don't like the optics.

To switch gears a bit, your post implies that you can't be convinced that LS is mafia, why?
NAI. He could have easily typed the wrong number.

Post 1029: Approves of using audience on his cell. + Show Spoiler +
On February 26 2016 04:40 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2016 02:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 26 2016 01:38 darthfoley wrote:
Yup at this point I think it's pretty clear that Breshke got marching orders from the other mafia to just lie down and take it after the 50/50 was used so as not to incriminate anyone. Over a day of inactivity with your cell on the line is just too much. Ugh

##Unvote
##Vote:Breshke

The ugh at the end indicates frustration right?
Why are you frustrated over an easy scum lynch?


Yea i'm frustrated. Because I spent half of my cycle wasting my breath defending someone who has turned out to be mega obvious mafia, while getting almost universally wrongly scum read for it. It's great if we successfully used our 50/50 and go up 1:0, but town would be in an amazing decision if we go up 2:0 after my cell and if I can't change people's minds, that won't happen. Can't remember who said it, but I endorse using the audience power for my group too unless there's some obvious reason i'm missing. Going up 2:0 should basically ensure a town win.
Complete 180 from his previous opinion. I can understand him getting frustrated with being falsely(?) scum read and wanting it used to get more people’s opinions.



Post 1106: True? Or serious wifom?
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 26 2016 06:56 darthfoley wrote:
Just wanna say that the theory that i'm scum is:

Breshke is read scum by people
Everyone knows Ritoky will likely use 50/50 on the cell
I decide to go super out of my way to reverse buss Breshke while my three other mafia teammates buss him
I put a huge target on my back
Breshke goes AFK
Everyone scum reads me
Breshke gets killed, town up 1:0
I get killed, town up 2:0

like this is really unlikely and super super dumb mafia play

SMITE
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 27 2016 02:28 GMT
#1411
so kura can i get a tldr conclusion?
Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
February 27 2016 02:29 GMT
#1412
I've got a massive headache from breathing in cleaning fumes so I'm posting this now.

Darth was the only one I wrote up an assessment of, the others are just filter dives. They should be up tomorrow we'll before the lynch with an update on DF.
SMITE
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 27 2016 02:30 GMT
#1413
On February 27 2016 11:29 Kuragari42 wrote:
I've got a massive headache from breathing in cleaning fumes so I'm posting this now.

Darth was the only one I wrote up an assessment of, the others are just filter dives. They should be up tomorrow we'll before the lynch with an update on DF.

so that's no, i can't get a conclusion on darth?
Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
February 27 2016 02:37 GMT
#1414
On February 27 2016 11:28 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
so kura can i get a tldr conclusion?


Darth has done nothing that screams major "SCUM" at me and some of his posts seem like they are coming from a town perspective. Unfortunately, I am pretty bad at reading him (see last game where I got scum read for my read). All in all, I would put him as a town lean for me.

Alas, from what I've got down, neither Rels or LS has blown me away as scum or town either so it is hard for me to decide where to place my vote. Hopefully I will get a better picture by the lynch date tomorrow.

PS: I didn't read like the last 4 pages so if something big happened that I didn't mention, I will add it tomorrow.

SMITE
Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
February 27 2016 02:38 GMT
#1415
And with that, I'm off.

Peace.
SMITE
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 27 2016 03:08 GMT
#1416
Does anyone object to using the audience power on this cell? If so, why?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22166 Posts
February 27 2016 03:20 GMT
#1417
On February 27 2016 11:24 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
What particularly is town from darth, vivax? Help me see the light.


Tone of confidence and pissed offness, I just see him sounding like myself when people scumread me and are wrong, and I think he sounds different in the mafia game of his.

Overall just genuine with his efforts.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 27 2016 03:24 GMT
#1418
On February 27 2016 10:57 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
yo ritoky we gotta use our ask the girls power. why aren't you using it?


cuz if i do use it i have to use it in the first 24 hrs, hence why i was asking yesterday if i should. i made the choice not to use it this cell cuz i am a pussy and listened to other ppl.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
February 27 2016 03:27 GMT
#1419
I'll be home in like an hour or two.
Retired.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 27 2016 03:28 GMT
#1420
On February 27 2016 12:08 darthfoley wrote:
Does anyone object to using the audience power on this cell? If so, why?


irrelevant now
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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