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On February 25 2016 05:23 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Darth, I don't think it makes you scum, but I find your reasoning for voting vayne very weak.
So what if he disagrees with me on cell order. I don't think scum ever try to push for a certain mechanical decision beceause to benefit the scumteam. They're first priority is to look town so they will push stuff that they think is pro town.
Much of my suspicion of VA comes from Rels really bad VA town read, which I've already gone over. I know either Rels or LS is mafia, and it is especially concerning when someone I know is good town has illogical reads. As I mentioned earlier, I think VA could be town for something along the line's of ritoky's reasoning, but not Rels.
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On February 25 2016 04:53 darthfoley wrote:
Everyone scum reading the same person, especially in a game with 5!!!! scum, makes me suuuuper uneasy.
Exactly.
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On February 25 2016 05:26 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 05:22 bumatlarge wrote:
@darth, people not explaining the "why" to their opinions seems to be the theme of this game. well i think i've explained why I think things relatively thoroughly so far. Do you want clarification on something? Also @VA, people weren't really scum reading me in a serious way until I started to defend Breshke. From a mafia POV, what's the point of sticking your neck out for a cell that is almost certainly going to get 50/50'd if your scum partner is the heavily scum read person in it? Does this game remind you at all of my scum play in Unoriginal? I'd say it's about as different as you could be.
By proxy you are calling me scum when the only other option is breshke which is ludacris. So yea it fits with your very scummy to be scum playstyle so far. you would have to convince me rels is scum but again it doesn even matter as i wont be voting for your cell.
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On February 25 2016 05:29 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 05:23 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Darth, I don't think it makes you scum, but I find your reasoning for voting vayne very weak.
So what if he disagrees with me on cell order. I don't think scum ever try to push for a certain mechanical decision beceause to benefit the scumteam. They're first priority is to look town so they will push stuff that they think is pro town. Much of my suspicion of VA comes from Rels really bad VA town read, which I've already gone over. I know either Rels or LS is mafia, and it is especially concerning when someone I know is good town has illogical reads. As I mentioned earlier, I think VA could be town for something along the line's of ritoky's reasoning, but not Rels.
Why would Rels TR a town VA then, cause that would mean that he's bussing Bresh this very moment.
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On February 25 2016 04:55 Vivax wrote:
In a no flip game?
This is the only cell in which all 3 players flip. FF confirmed inno. Whoever gets lynched flips (right?). And the last is whichever the lynch wasn't.
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VA I've never said that i'm set in my scum read of you. But when 8/15 people have already voted for Breshke, and there are 5/15 mafia in the game, I don't like the optics.
To switch gears a bit, your post implies that you can't be convinced that LS is mafia, why?
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On February 25 2016 05:32 Kuragari42 wrote:This is the only cell in which all 3 players flip. FF confirmed inno. Whoever gets lynched flips (right?). And the last is whichever the lynch wasn't.
Oh excuse me then, should read the op more carefully.
I guess the no bus stuff doesnt apply to today then
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On February 25 2016 05:33 darthfoley wrote:
VA I've never said that i'm set in my scum read of you. But when 8/15 people have already voted for Breshke, and there are 5/15 mafia in the game, I don't like the optics.
To switch gears a bit, your post implies that you can't be convinced that LS is mafia, why?
because reading his posts give me a migraine similar to alakaslam so i just ignore them
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On February 25 2016 05:31 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 05:29 darthfoley wrote:On February 25 2016 05:23 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Darth, I don't think it makes you scum, but I find your reasoning for voting vayne very weak.
So what if he disagrees with me on cell order. I don't think scum ever try to push for a certain mechanical decision beceause to benefit the scumteam. They're first priority is to look town so they will push stuff that they think is pro town. Much of my suspicion of VA comes from Rels really bad VA town read, which I've already gone over. I know either Rels or LS is mafia, and it is especially concerning when someone I know is good town has illogical reads. As I mentioned earlier, I think VA could be town for something along the line's of ritoky's reasoning, but not Rels. Why would Rels TR a town VA then, cause that would mean that he's bussing Bresh this very moment.
Because if Rels is town and we just disagree on what "aggressive" play is, and LS is mafia, it makes more sense. My cell has a third person people seem to be forgetting
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On February 25 2016 05:18 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 03:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I haven't posted much I had to do a exam online and couldn't spend time at all on other sites during the time. Darth is going after Rels. I liking Rels more than Darth even more from their interactions with each other. Once VA, FF, and Breshke are around I can try to talk to them so I can get some better formed reads on their Cells(I got Breshke null leaning town but not by much, FF prob town, VA null). I actually wanna quote this again because I really don't like it darth is going after rels --> rels went after me first, but either way, it makes sense that I am going after him considering I know that either you or rels is mafia. I like rels more than darth "even more" from their interactions with each other --> why? but okay, fair enough reads: breshke null leaning town, ff town, VA null (at time of post) rels reads: VA town, ff null, breshke scum darth reads: breshke null leaning town, (before flip) ff kinda scum, VA nullish scum Idk why he's liking Rels more when my reads line up more with his reads; also, don't know why he makes it sound like it's a bad thing that cell mates are after each other.
i kinda like this post. LS should respond to it.
if your reads were significantly more closely aligned with darths than rels' then why are your reading darth mafia and rels town?
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On February 25 2016 05:22 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 05:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
its not coincidence that all the people i have as scum are voting me, its because they are scum lol How in the world do you expect to have any credibility whatsoever if you're the only soul in this game who apparently doesn't have a scumread on bumatlarge for reasons? I thought everyone was past that on D1 already. The only reason youd derp so hard and have such an unnatural read on ppl in my cell is cause you aren't town and don't see things the way town does (and cause you probably didn't think about the consequences of your read).
I mixed up randombum and bumatlarge, an easy mitake tbh. Bumatlarge was actually super over the top happy as town so its true my read was wrong. Again though, i have very little interest in the other cells as i wont be playing.
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On February 25 2016 05:34 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 05:31 Vivax wrote:On February 25 2016 05:29 darthfoley wrote:On February 25 2016 05:23 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Darth, I don't think it makes you scum, but I find your reasoning for voting vayne very weak.
So what if he disagrees with me on cell order. I don't think scum ever try to push for a certain mechanical decision beceause to benefit the scumteam. They're first priority is to look town so they will push stuff that they think is pro town. Much of my suspicion of VA comes from Rels really bad VA town read, which I've already gone over. I know either Rels or LS is mafia, and it is especially concerning when someone I know is good town has illogical reads. As I mentioned earlier, I think VA could be town for something along the line's of ritoky's reasoning, but not Rels. Why would Rels TR a town VA then, cause that would mean that he's bussing Bresh this very moment. Because if Rels is town and we just disagree on what "aggressive" play is, and LS is mafia, it makes more sense. My cell has a third person people seem to be forgetting
I try to follow your logic but it's a dead end.
Let me recap:
Rels is mafia cause of his read on VA?
-> I ask why
If Rels is town and LS is mafia it makes more sense.
Can you please explain it like im 5 year old cause either you have trouble articulating your thoughts or this is bollocks
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Or im being an idiot which is in the realm of the possible
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@darth why you ask about this if you not care to follow up btw?
On February 25 2016 05:10 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 05:05 darthfoley wrote:
Ritoky, what do you think of Rels read post? my largest problem with his read post was that his weakest opinions were on the members of his own cell, which are the people he should be focusing on the most, since he "knows" 1 of the 2 are scum and that his cell is guaranteed to go before the game ends. it read slightly as if he wanted to leave his options open on his own cell and not committ. that said i gave some slight town points to everyone who openly gave out decently extensive reads before the 50/50, cuz i think mafia members outside the current cell are more prone to not commit to reads and then look like an idiot an hour later when the person they shit on gets green'd.
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On February 25 2016 05:36 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2016 05:22 Vivax wrote:On February 25 2016 05:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
its not coincidence that all the people i have as scum are voting me, its because they are scum lol How in the world do you expect to have any credibility whatsoever if you're the only soul in this game who apparently doesn't have a scumread on bumatlarge for reasons? I thought everyone was past that on D1 already. The only reason youd derp so hard and have such an unnatural read on ppl in my cell is cause you aren't town and don't see things the way town does (and cause you probably didn't think about the consequences of your read). I mixed up randombum and bumatlarge, an easy mitake tbh. Bumatlarge was actually super over the top happy as town so its true my read was wrong. Again though, i have very little interest in the other cells as i wont be playing.
lol seriously? Ill have a hard time believing this even if I try
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Is VA mafia or severely dyslexic? hmmm
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I'm happy.... 
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Okay;
in my cell, I know Rels or LS is mafia. I have already talked about why I didn't like Rels's analysis of cells D and C, which after a long period of AFK seems kinda like scum catching up. I didn't like his reasoning, but towns often see the game in different perspectives. Basically, while I disagree with Rels's methodology, our disagreement does not necessarily mean he is mafia.
If you're asking why I think Rels's VA read wasn't good, just look at my filter. He described his play as aggressive, implying he had been pushing leads and stuff. I think it's quite clear that it's either the wrong adjective to use, or a false description.
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I do however, find it odd that LS was kinda universally town read D1, and has been pretty hands off since, during the cell D discussion AND the arguments between me and Rels. After all, he knows one of us is mafia (if he's town) and would be much more invested in us. Look at my post above; I don't think that post comes from LS who's been following the game or particularly cares which one of us eventually ends up being scum read, because in this scenario, Rels and I are both town and mafia gets the +1 regardless.
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On February 25 2016 05:42 bumatlarge wrote:I'm happy....
you have any opinions of any cell other than the one currently up for vote?
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