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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 24 2016 20:44 GMT
#761
On February 25 2016 05:37 ritoky wrote:
@darth why you ask about this if you not care to follow up btw?

Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 05:10 ritoky wrote:
On February 25 2016 05:05 darthfoley wrote:
Ritoky, what do you think of Rels read post?


my largest problem with his read post was that his weakest opinions were on the members of his own cell, which are the people he should be focusing on the most, since he "knows" 1 of the 2 are scum and that his cell is guaranteed to go before the game ends. it read slightly as if he wanted to leave his options open on his own cell and not committ.

that said i gave some slight town points to everyone who openly gave out decently extensive reads before the 50/50, cuz i think mafia members outside the current cell are more prone to not commit to reads and then look like an idiot an hour later when the person they shit on gets green'd.



Sorry i've been busy responding to like 4 people questioning me.

Are you suggesting that Rels's town reads were decently extensive before the 50/50 and mine weren't?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
February 24 2016 20:46 GMT
#762
On February 25 2016 05:15 VayneAuthority wrote:
its not coincidence that all the people i have as scum are voting me, its because they are scum lol


But..
SMITE
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
February 24 2016 20:47 GMT
#763
okay i'm out for a couple hours, will be back later. for those in doubt, read my filter
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 24 2016 20:49 GMT
#764
no i am suggesting that if mafia knows i am going to 50/50 that posting significant reads on a cell where some1 is about to be green checked is not exactly a thing to be doing cuz you can look real dumb real quick.

but mostly what i am suggesting is that rels having stronger opinions on everyone else except the people in his cell is suspect because as a town who knows his cell is guaranteed to go, those 2 players should be his strongest opinions or at least equally as strong.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 24 2016 20:49 GMT
#765
oh man this is gonna be an easy win for town i predict.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
February 24 2016 20:49 GMT
#766
On February 25 2016 05:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
it was 8 years ago dude, looked up the game just for you. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/67925-tl-mafia-2-gg

who would expect there to be 2 ppl named after bums


And you want me to believe you're using meta from 8 years ago in this game and think that it would be a legit method instead of simply realizing me and kush are probably town like the rest of the game?

vayne pls, no one, literally no one opened up a page of meta on bum to read him scum except you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
February 24 2016 20:51 GMT
#767
On February 25 2016 05:43 darthfoley wrote:
Okay;

in my cell, I know Rels or LS is mafia. I have already talked about why I didn't like Rels's analysis of cells D and C, which after a long period of AFK seems kinda like scum catching up. I didn't like his reasoning, but towns often see the game in different perspectives. Basically, while I disagree with Rels's methodology, our disagreement does not necessarily mean he is mafia.

If you're asking why I think Rels's VA read wasn't good, just look at my filter. He described his play as aggressive, implying he had been pushing leads and stuff. I think it's quite clear that it's either the wrong adjective to use, or a false description.

-------

I do however, find it odd that LS was kinda universally town read D1, and has been pretty hands off since, during the cell D discussion AND the arguments between me and Rels. After all, he knows one of us is mafia (if he's town) and would be much more invested in us. Look at my post above; I don't think that post comes from LS who's been following the game or particularly cares which one of us eventually ends up being scum read, because in this scenario, Rels and I are both town and mafia gets the +1 regardless.


Yea but we got here from your post saying that Vayne was the guy you suspected cause of Rels read on him, which isn't adressed at all still and impossible to understand, so the bollocks meter is slowly but steadily rising.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
February 24 2016 20:53 GMT
#768
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 24 2016 20:55 GMT
#769
thats a top quality gif. you have gif master ritoky's approval.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 24 2016 20:58 GMT
#770
On February 25 2016 05:43 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 05:42 bumatlarge wrote:
I'm happy....


you have any opinions of any cell other than the one currently up for vote?


I'd rather see where this cell lands and what people vote for before giving my read for the second cell.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
February 24 2016 20:58 GMT
#771
On February 25 2016 05:55 ritoky wrote:
thats a top quality gif. you have gif master ritoky's approval.


I knew you'd like it

I really want to try to get behind darth foleys maze of reasons, when someone says "I think x is mafia cause y guy him like this, but im not sure on y" then the bovine smell intensifies.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 24 2016 20:58 GMT
#772
i disagree with you though i think there's a very real chance darth is town. that post i quoted recently is pretty town. he basically says:

here are LS's reads -> oh wow they line up fairly close to mine -> wait a second, he thinks i am more mafia than rels -> shouldn't he think the opposite if he agrees with me and disagrees with rels? -> pressure him on this point.

that's a pretty town line of play.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 24 2016 20:58 GMT
#773
On February 25 2016 04:53 darthfoley wrote:
@Rels I still think your "VA is being aggressive" line is bullshit. Your explanation was basically just him throwing a few names out early. How is that aggressive when there's NO explanation? I guess Kush plays every game aggressive then because of his random scum list 1.1 1.2 lists. Aggressively implies that he's pushing his reads. He's done no pushing, and seems very happy with me being scum read, stating over and over how great it's going to be when "we go up 2-0" we = ???

Ritoky's read:
On February 25 2016 03:35 ritoky wrote:
4) VA did his town meta thing

5) VA sounds dickish/obstinate, which is how he sounds more often as town. as opposed to when he is all friendly and shit as mafia like here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503437-star-wars-the-mafia-awaken?user=VayneAuthority

is more or less the same as mine with different words, yet you are awarding town points while awarding me scum points. Either that VA read is good or it is not. You are applying different criterias for different players.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
February 24 2016 21:00 GMT
#774
On February 25 2016 05:58 ritoky wrote:
i disagree with you though i think there's a very real chance darth is town. that post i quoted recently is pretty town. he basically says:

here are LS's reads -> oh wow they line up fairly close to mine -> wait a second, he thinks i am more mafia than rels -> shouldn't he think the opposite if he agrees with me and disagrees with rels? -> pressure him on this point.

that's a pretty town line of play.


Tone wise I was thinking town too but if he's good you have to catch him selling lies
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 24 2016 21:03 GMT
#775
On February 25 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 04:53 darthfoley wrote:
@Rels I still think your "VA is being aggressive" line is bullshit. Your explanation was basically just him throwing a few names out early. How is that aggressive when there's NO explanation? I guess Kush plays every game aggressive then because of his random scum list 1.1 1.2 lists. Aggressively implies that he's pushing his reads. He's done no pushing, and seems very happy with me being scum read, stating over and over how great it's going to be when "we go up 2-0" we = ???

Ritoky's read:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 03:35 ritoky wrote:
4) VA did his town meta thing

5) VA sounds dickish/obstinate, which is how he sounds more often as town. as opposed to when he is all friendly and shit as mafia like here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503437-star-wars-the-mafia-awaken?user=VayneAuthority

is more or less the same as mine with different words, yet you are awarding town points while awarding me scum points. Either that VA read is good or it is not. You are applying different criterias for different players.


just in case you didn't know i coached darth pretty much the same way i coached you if that helps you read him at all.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 24 2016 21:03 GMT
#776
On February 25 2016 05:10 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 05:05 darthfoley wrote:
Ritoky, what do you think of Rels read post?


my largest problem with his read post was that his weakest opinions were on the members of his own cell, which are the people he should be focusing on the most, since he "knows" 1 of the 2 are scum and that his cell is guaranteed to go before the game ends. it read slightly as if he wanted to leave his options open on his own cell and not committ.

that said i gave some slight town points to everyone who openly gave out decently extensive reads before the 50/50, cuz i think mafia members outside the current cell are more prone to not commit to reads and then look like an idiot an hour later when the person they shit on gets green'd.

I have the reads I have, not going to invent them.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 24 2016 21:05 GMT
#777
On February 25 2016 06:03 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:
On February 25 2016 04:53 darthfoley wrote:
@Rels I still think your "VA is being aggressive" line is bullshit. Your explanation was basically just him throwing a few names out early. How is that aggressive when there's NO explanation? I guess Kush plays every game aggressive then because of his random scum list 1.1 1.2 lists. Aggressively implies that he's pushing his reads. He's done no pushing, and seems very happy with me being scum read, stating over and over how great it's going to be when "we go up 2-0" we = ???

Ritoky's read:
On February 25 2016 03:35 ritoky wrote:
4) VA did his town meta thing

5) VA sounds dickish/obstinate, which is how he sounds more often as town. as opposed to when he is all friendly and shit as mafia like here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503437-star-wars-the-mafia-awaken?user=VayneAuthority

is more or less the same as mine with different words, yet you are awarding town points while awarding me scum points. Either that VA read is good or it is not. You are applying different criterias for different players.


just in case you didn't know i coached darth pretty much the same way i coached you if that helps you read him at all.

So ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 24 2016 21:11 GMT
#778
On February 25 2016 05:29 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 05:25 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
^*their.

@Vivax, vayne's bum read looks tooscummytobescum honestly.
On February 25 2016 01:56 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 25 2016 01:51 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 25 2016 00:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
On February 25 2016 00:23 Rels wrote:
On February 25 2016 00:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
iim just waiting for ritoky to 50/50 this thing I dont feel like analyzing this shit if i have a 33% of being removed from the game immediately

Your gut reads on FF and Breshke ?


breshke scum

my updated list is

breshke, darthfoley, vivax, obi, SL


Why vivax over bum?


i have no idea why actually, seems cool to have one offmeta read



I disagree, I'm pretty positive most of mafia's on the bresh wagon.

I also want to add that my current bet would be on ritoky being the last mafia, and the guy who's going to carry them on top. The soft bus stuff he used against darth reminded me of that.

You meant "against kura" ?
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 24 2016 21:11 GMT
#779
On February 25 2016 06:05 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 06:03 ritoky wrote:
On February 25 2016 05:58 Rels wrote:
On February 25 2016 04:53 darthfoley wrote:
@Rels I still think your "VA is being aggressive" line is bullshit. Your explanation was basically just him throwing a few names out early. How is that aggressive when there's NO explanation? I guess Kush plays every game aggressive then because of his random scum list 1.1 1.2 lists. Aggressively implies that he's pushing his reads. He's done no pushing, and seems very happy with me being scum read, stating over and over how great it's going to be when "we go up 2-0" we = ???

Ritoky's read:
On February 25 2016 03:35 ritoky wrote:
4) VA did his town meta thing

5) VA sounds dickish/obstinate, which is how he sounds more often as town. as opposed to when he is all friendly and shit as mafia like here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/503437-star-wars-the-mafia-awaken?user=VayneAuthority

is more or less the same as mine with different words, yet you are awarding town points while awarding me scum points. Either that VA read is good or it is not. You are applying different criterias for different players.


just in case you didn't know i coached darth pretty much the same way i coached you if that helps you read him at all.

So ?


nebermind then
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 24 2016 21:14 GMT
#780
yo vivax, how much % of you actually thinks i am mafia, and how much % just wants to lynch me cuz i slandered you?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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