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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
February 24 2016 19:15 GMT
#701
Kush I been meaning to ask. Nooniansong is after the star trek character Dr. Noonian Song who built Data and Lore right?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
February 24 2016 19:17 GMT
#702
On February 25 2016 04:09 nooniansoong wrote:
BRESHKE POST COUNTS SCUM VS TOWN

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The January 1st game was from the game where I vig shit him in New Years Eve Party. The other games link them? I will check the links after I get home.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
February 24 2016 19:32 GMT
#703
I must be a damn inept mafia player.. I don't understand why VA is essentially beyond suspicion.. like, at all..
SMITE
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 24 2016 19:32 GMT
#704
okay i'm around for the next hour and a half so i'll try to answer people's questions and post my thoughts
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
February 24 2016 19:32 GMT
#705
On February 25 2016 03:51 darthfoley wrote:
In class but i'll respond in full later.

It's not that I am dead set on VA scum or Bresh town. I was mainly pointing out what I found to be poorly explained reads with bad reasoning by Rels. Ritoky's read of the cell is a lot more thought out than Rels imo

1. Updated reads on VA and Breshke then or you're not "dead set" ? You seemed pretty "dead set" on that post where you ridiculed my "VA is aggressive" sentence.
2.
On February 25 2016 02:48 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 02:22 darthfoley wrote:
It was quite clear that I was referring to the reads I talked about as the shitty ones. This is really dumb

Obviously I didn't understand that. So now that I provides examples of va being aggressive, explained the ff read and explained why your townread on breshke is shit, why are they shitty ?

ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 24 2016 19:33 GMT
#706
On February 25 2016 04:32 Kuragari42 wrote:
I must be a damn inept mafia player.. I don't understand why VA is essentially beyond suspicion.. like, at all..


if breshke is town, this guy is mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
February 24 2016 19:35 GMT
#707
(Wiki)
On February 25 2016 04:33 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 04:32 Kuragari42 wrote:
I must be a damn inept mafia player.. I don't understand why VA is essentially beyond suspicion.. like, at all..


if breshke is town, this guy is mafia.


Why is that?
SMITE
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 24 2016 19:38 GMT
#708
On February 25 2016 04:15 Shapelog wrote:
Kush I been meaning to ask. Nooniansong is after the star trek character Dr. Noonian Song who built Data and Lore right?


no it's a different Noonian Soong.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 24 2016 19:42 GMT
#709
On February 25 2016 04:35 Kuragari42 wrote:
(Wiki)
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 04:33 ritoky wrote:
On February 25 2016 04:32 Kuragari42 wrote:
I must be a damn inept mafia player.. I don't understand why VA is essentially beyond suspicion.. like, at all..


if breshke is town, this guy is mafia.


Why is that?


thats the kinda soft-bus for credit later kinda posts i make when i am scum.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Kuragari42
Profile Joined January 2016
United States346 Posts
February 24 2016 19:46 GMT
#710
On February 25 2016 04:42 ritoky wrote:
thats the kinda soft-bus for credit later kinda posts i make when i am scum.


Pretty sure if town hasn't won by our cell, it will be insta-loss.
SMITE
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 24 2016 19:51 GMT
#711
On February 25 2016 04:46 Kuragari42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 04:42 ritoky wrote:
thats the kinda soft-bus for credit later kinda posts i make when i am scum.


Pretty sure if town hasn't won by our cell, it will be insta-loss.


why?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 24 2016 19:53 GMT
#712
On February 25 2016 03:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
I work in an ENT office so i have very random internet access/downtime, so yea.

but anyways darthfoley looks even worse now, might be able to go 2-0 here.


Why do I look worse for saying, "I don't know why people are town reading FF after looking at his filter"

I found and still find his filter super underwhelming. It was at max null for me. I also don't know why this doesn't make Rels look worse for you, considering he basically drew the same conclusion as me regarding FF--> kinda useless, null or scum lean.

@Shapelog... Not sure what i'm supposed to say to you having a "weird" vibe from my #640 post.

@Rels I still think your "VA is being aggressive" line is bullshit. Your explanation was basically just him throwing a few names out early. How is that aggressive when there's NO explanation? I guess Kush plays every game aggressive then because of his random scum list 1.1 1.2 lists. Aggressively implies that he's pushing his reads. He's done no pushing, and seems very happy with me being scum read, stating over and over how great it's going to be when "we go up 2-0" we = ???

The VA town I've played with in Unoriginal didn't do much D1 and came out with a blockbuster read post that completely read my scum play, with reasoning and all. He just seems more willing to go with the flow in this game, which isn't how he played last time. His play reminds me more of the Star Wars scum game I played with him.

I find it ironic that i'm playing pretty much EXACTLY how I played Star Wars D1 last game and was universally (correctly) town read for it, but here all of a sudden everyone scum reads me. I was sort of a devil's advocate in Star Wars because I really didn't like the way the Palmar wagon was shaping up. It was basically one wagon with no alternative and everyone was jumping on; I feel similarly regarding Breshke and VA right now. Everyone scum reading the same person, especially in a game with 5!!!! scum, makes me suuuuper uneasy.

@Shapelog Meta reading me in Newbie vs. this game is completely different. This is themed, and I'm playing with much better and more experienced players. I am playing a similar game compared to Star Wars: I am willing to sheep people who are better at the game and I have read town, but I am also willing to point out logical inconsistencies and uneasy wagons when I see them.

Maybe Breshke is scum who has just gone AFK or whatever and people are trying to jump on him and get town cred, but it makes no sense for scum!darthfoley to be the only one willing to defend/challenge conventional wisdom.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22079 Posts
February 24 2016 19:55 GMT
#713
On February 25 2016 04:42 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 04:35 Kuragari42 wrote:
(Wiki)
On February 25 2016 04:33 ritoky wrote:
On February 25 2016 04:32 Kuragari42 wrote:
I must be a damn inept mafia player.. I don't understand why VA is essentially beyond suspicion.. like, at all..


if breshke is town, this guy is mafia.


Why is that?


thats the kinda soft-bus for credit later kinda posts i make when i am scum.


In a no flip game?
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 24 2016 19:55 GMT
#714
I don't see a huge difference between VA and Breshke, other then VA has posted this:

On February 25 2016 00:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 00:23 Rels wrote:
On February 25 2016 00:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
iim just waiting for ritoky to 50/50 this thing I dont feel like analyzing this shit if i have a 33% of being removed from the game immediately

Your gut reads on FF and Breshke ?


breshke scum

my updated list is

breshke, darthfoley, vivax, obi, SL


...and Breshke has not. He's been filtering past games(?) of his cellmates, but that will not help a ton at the start of a game unless there are some serious meta patterns. Doubtful. He hasn't remarked on anyone outside his cell and it's important that he does.

We want FF and Breshke to do the same VA, and we want them all to go a bit more in depth about their lists before they leace the game. Still plenty of time.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 24 2016 19:58 GMT
#715
On February 25 2016 04:53 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 03:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
I work in an ENT office so i have very random internet access/downtime, so yea.

but anyways darthfoley looks even worse now, might be able to go 2-0 here.


Why do I look worse for saying, "I don't know why people are town reading FF after looking at his filter"

I found and still find his filter super underwhelming. It was at max null for me. I also don't know why this doesn't make Rels look worse for you, considering he basically drew the same conclusion as me regarding FF--> kinda useless, null or scum lean.

@Shapelog... Not sure what i'm supposed to say to you having a "weird" vibe from my #640 post.

@Rels I still think your "VA is being aggressive" line is bullshit. Your explanation was basically just him throwing a few names out early. How is that aggressive when there's NO explanation? I guess Kush plays every game aggressive then because of his random scum list 1.1 1.2 lists. Aggressively implies that he's pushing his reads. He's done no pushing, and seems very happy with me being scum read, stating over and over how great it's going to be when "we go up 2-0" we = ???

The VA town I've played with in Unoriginal didn't do much D1 and came out with a blockbuster read post that completely read my scum play, with reasoning and all. He just seems more willing to go with the flow in this game, which isn't how he played last time. His play reminds me more of the Star Wars scum game I played with him.

I find it ironic that i'm playing pretty much EXACTLY how I played Star Wars D1 last game and was universally (correctly) town read for it, but here all of a sudden everyone scum reads me. I was sort of a devil's advocate in Star Wars because I really didn't like the way the Palmar wagon was shaping up. It was basically one wagon with no alternative and everyone was jumping on; I feel similarly regarding Breshke and VA right now. Everyone scum reading the same person, especially in a game with 5!!!! scum, makes me suuuuper uneasy.

@Shapelog Meta reading me in Newbie vs. this game is completely different. This is themed, and I'm playing with much better and more experienced players. I am playing a similar game compared to Star Wars: I am willing to sheep people who are better at the game and I have read town, but I am also willing to point out logical inconsistencies and uneasy wagons when I see them.

Maybe Breshke is scum who has just gone AFK or whatever and people are trying to jump on him and get town cred, but it makes no sense for scum!darthfoley to be the only one willing to defend/challenge conventional wisdom.


you look worse for defending breshke and I now know 100% that breshke is scum, simple as that. Thats why you now look worse. dunno what tangent you were even going off on
I come in for the scraps
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 24 2016 19:59 GMT
#716
On February 25 2016 03:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Sorry I haven't posted much I had to do a exam online and couldn't spend time at all on other sites during the time. Darth is going after Rels. I liking Rels more than Darth even more from their interactions with each other. Once VA, FF, and Breshke are around I can try to talk to them so I can get some better formed reads on their Cells(I got Breshke null leaning town but not by much, FF prob town, VA null).


why do you like Rels > me when your reads line up more with mine than his?
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
February 24 2016 20:00 GMT
#717
Vote Count

Breshke (6): nnn_thekushmountains, Rels, ritoky, Shapelog, VayneAuthority, sicklucker,
VayneAuthority (1): Kuragari42 ,
Not Voted (8): Breshke, bumatlarge, darthfoley, LightningStrike, Damdred, Vivax, Fecalfeast, ObiWanShinobi

Currently, Breshke is slated to be lynched.
You have to place your vote here.
Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 24 2016 20:01 GMT
#718
On February 25 2016 04:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 04:53 darthfoley wrote:
On February 25 2016 03:42 VayneAuthority wrote:
I work in an ENT office so i have very random internet access/downtime, so yea.

but anyways darthfoley looks even worse now, might be able to go 2-0 here.


Why do I look worse for saying, "I don't know why people are town reading FF after looking at his filter"

I found and still find his filter super underwhelming. It was at max null for me. I also don't know why this doesn't make Rels look worse for you, considering he basically drew the same conclusion as me regarding FF--> kinda useless, null or scum lean.

@Shapelog... Not sure what i'm supposed to say to you having a "weird" vibe from my #640 post.

@Rels I still think your "VA is being aggressive" line is bullshit. Your explanation was basically just him throwing a few names out early. How is that aggressive when there's NO explanation? I guess Kush plays every game aggressive then because of his random scum list 1.1 1.2 lists. Aggressively implies that he's pushing his reads. He's done no pushing, and seems very happy with me being scum read, stating over and over how great it's going to be when "we go up 2-0" we = ???

The VA town I've played with in Unoriginal didn't do much D1 and came out with a blockbuster read post that completely read my scum play, with reasoning and all. He just seems more willing to go with the flow in this game, which isn't how he played last time. His play reminds me more of the Star Wars scum game I played with him.

I find it ironic that i'm playing pretty much EXACTLY how I played Star Wars D1 last game and was universally (correctly) town read for it, but here all of a sudden everyone scum reads me. I was sort of a devil's advocate in Star Wars because I really didn't like the way the Palmar wagon was shaping up. It was basically one wagon with no alternative and everyone was jumping on; I feel similarly regarding Breshke and VA right now. Everyone scum reading the same person, especially in a game with 5!!!! scum, makes me suuuuper uneasy.

@Shapelog Meta reading me in Newbie vs. this game is completely different. This is themed, and I'm playing with much better and more experienced players. I am playing a similar game compared to Star Wars: I am willing to sheep people who are better at the game and I have read town, but I am also willing to point out logical inconsistencies and uneasy wagons when I see them.

Maybe Breshke is scum who has just gone AFK or whatever and people are trying to jump on him and get town cred, but it makes no sense for scum!darthfoley to be the only one willing to defend/challenge conventional wisdom.


you look worse for defending breshke and I now know 100% that breshke is scum, simple as that. Thats why you now look worse. dunno what tangent you were even going off on


Okay, let's accept your premise that breshke is 100% scum. Why does my defense of him make me scum? You literally played with me last game and I did the same thing with Palmar when I was town. Not seeing why you are so attached with this being alignment indicative
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 24 2016 20:03 GMT
#719
On February 25 2016 04:55 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 04:42 ritoky wrote:
On February 25 2016 04:35 Kuragari42 wrote:
(Wiki)
On February 25 2016 04:33 ritoky wrote:
On February 25 2016 04:32 Kuragari42 wrote:
I must be a damn inept mafia player.. I don't understand why VA is essentially beyond suspicion.. like, at all..


if breshke is town, this guy is mafia.


Why is that?


thats the kinda soft-bus for credit later kinda posts i make when i am scum.


In a no flip game?


this cell is technically a flip cell, but point taken.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22079 Posts
February 24 2016 20:04 GMT
#720
This is where im at feels wise and before reading everything into the tiniest detail.

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Why I end up at these conclusions is PoE for Cell B and C. Vayne not scumreading bum, and cell A is something I need to work on still.

I also have to yet read any posts from Rels in detail, but I feel that LS is town, and got a townie feeling from darthfoleys most recent post.
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