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playing my low post-count (i.e. lazy) way ^^ | ||
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 i've done it the last two games! meanies ;o; | ||
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On February 11 2016 22:30 GlowingBear wrote: /out :/ ;o; | ||
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On February 12 2016 03:39 GlowingBear wrote: Ok ok, /in because I love Pre game excuse: I'm busy as fucking hell <3 | ||
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On February 12 2016 09:22 justanothertownie wrote: Where did you guys see anyone fight? :p What I wrote to Gb was just meant as advice because I know from experience that if you join a game you do not have time for and still care about it it will only lead to problems. Ingame and out of the game. Rsoultin should know that too btw. If GB thinks he can manage it - sure, go for it. He can of course also just ignore me. lol -pokes jat- i also know that you come across differently than you intend you know i <3 you too ^^ | ||
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i'll still have class tues/thursoh well \o/ | ||
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On February 16 2016 06:07 Trfel wrote: I guess lynching you just became even easier  i know, right? :/ | ||
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-rolls around the thread- | ||
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On February 16 2016 06:12 The Shining wrote: But you /in'd last. The player list was the same when you did. Why are you just now experiencing these fears? he is the hero town doesn't deserve shining-san ^^ keep up! | ||
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On February 16 2016 06:13 Trfel wrote: Are you referring to GlowingBear, or the lack of people present? lack of people | ||
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nh, truffle wuffle, i has a problem with youse...namely, that you seem to be dropping reads instead of inviting comments on reads, which makes me antsy also, idk about palmar. every time i think i've got a good read on him he throws me off the scent @.@ not sure how you think you have a meta read on him. explain it more? the eden point on leaving an out to withdraw his read isn't a bad one, though tbf i can easily see a town eden believing that, too, cause it has been a year lol >< also this reminds me of a certain ooooother game where he focused on the same things <3s the rsoul's favorite devil's advocate for those of you slow on the uptake, sl posted his diary entries after truffle asked someone else to run point on being "scummy" enough to get reactions. not really sure that the actual reactions mean scum, tbh, cause townies are dumb all the time, but yeah | ||
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that's right lol forgot ^^ no problem with millers claiming | ||
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On February 16 2016 11:14 Eden1892 wrote: I find it hard to argue conclusively that sicklucker's initial posting was coming from town reaction testing. I didn't really think anything of it either way -- what did you see in it that I don't, such that you think it makes him town? i don't see that it makes him town i do see that, regardless of his alignment, it prob was in response to truffle's post, especially since he then went on to get reads from people's reactions | ||
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On February 16 2016 11:21 Eden1892 wrote: Never mind, I went back and reread Trfel's initial post, and my interpretation of what you were proposing doesn't make sense // isn't very useful/relevant. With that said, what is sicklucker's alignment? lol how the fuck should i know? xP assuming i'm even still around late-game (lol ><) i'll catch him by poe, if at all, if he's scum the point was there was nothing alignment-indicative about his diary posts ^^ | ||
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On February 16 2016 11:25 sicklucker wrote: It was plain english. Towns dont really care about that stuff they want to find scum. Power roles especially wont bring it up in thread. Mafia needs things to talk about so they sure will -pokes- and if i said he's done almost the exact same thing in a prior town game? would you drop it, or do you have other reasons to scumread him? | ||
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On February 16 2016 11:27 Trfel wrote: @rsoultin: I've described my meta read on Palmar before, in games where you've played. It's pretty simple. I described it here, too, in my post. What about that explanation do you not understand? My read on Palmar has been pretty good over the last several games by observing this trend. @Eden: I described using both quotes and explanations why I characterize your play as I did. @All: Look at how Eden started the game in his last two games as town. Both times, he was direct and to the point with insight and reads to get things going. Here, he's been all over the place. Instead of an early scumread or push to get the game started, there's "I want the miller to claim, does anyone disagree?" It's completely different and lacks direction. Eden has felt more involved since, but he still hasn't been doing anything, it feels like he is reacting instead of making things happen. Maybe there's something to do with his time of entrance to the thread, though, I'll check. yeah i haven't been paying attention to your meta-read on palmar >> no offense truffle-wuffle but i'm not really accustomed to paying much attention to your meta...though i realize you've started using it more all i noted was you said that it departed from the norm, which i don't agree with at all; his approach looked like classic palmar. what makes it town palmar instead of scum palmar? | ||
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i'd already said it earlier, sl ^^ horn of africa. eden did the same thing. it's a good plan because you just go from that to, not gonna listen to miller claims when people are being lynched/a red-check is claimed...and regardless, it's obvious if he's done this before as town he at least believes it's the best way to play with aware millers | ||
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On February 16 2016 11:33 Trfel wrote: Palmar is town because he doesn't do this as scum Simple. 100% correct.Well, okay, not 100% because he didn't actually do anything, but close to it for the other additional reasons that I gave. Anyway, Eden's entrance in his two latest games was significantly later than his posts in this game. Maybe I'm overestimating the interest of the thread early on. I'll look at Eden's filter again. yeah -_- this is not helpful truffle | ||
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On February 16 2016 11:32 rsoultin wrote: nh? was that at me? i'd already said it earlier, sl ^^ horn of africa. eden did the same thing. it's a good plan because you just go from that to, not gonna listen to miller claims when people are being lynched/a red-check is claimed...and regardless, it's obvious if he's done this before as town he at least believes it's the best way to play with aware millers ^ salient point | ||
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On February 16 2016 11:37 Eden1892 wrote: I forgot that I even did that! This must be the optimal line of play, since I independently thought of it twice over a year apart from each other. lol >< you're hopeless bueno, i was going to not spam this game :/ i'll check back in before bed but i really should actually do this paper i've been procrastinating | ||
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On February 16 2016 11:38 Trfel wrote: Change of subject. Most of my posts refer to focus with regards to solving the game, IE figuring out people's alignments. Making reads. I don't feel that asking for millers to claim accomplishes this. And regardless of opinion, it certainly doesn't replace sharing reads and solving the game. meh, i don't really expect people to go all gung-ho scum!hunter the instant the game starts, truffle...i think you're being premature at best here | ||
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i've already commented on sl and palmar, and as for ticktock...eh...i'm more curious about whether or not he and shapelog ever get off their epeens and actually take a stance on one another ^^ | ||
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On February 16 2016 11:47 Eden1892 wrote: I'm glad you did, but that doesn't make them of any objective interest in determining their alignments. You can also just come out and say that you think I'm mafia for failing to find these things interesting instead of using these veiled snippy rhetorical questions. chill -pokes- if he's scum, this is pointless, and if he's town you going all GROWL at him isn't going to get him to change his mind that was directed at me. you're in assault mode | ||
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On February 16 2016 11:51 Eden1892 wrote: If that was a sincere question to you, it's a pretty crappy one. What did he find interesting that he wanted you to comment on? Suppose you were mafia, that's just a free invitation to just say whatever about any of these guys and maybe even look townie for it. There's no direction to any of what he said, it's just literally "I think ABCD people did interesting things what do you think about these things I didn't even identify in my question?" -shrugs- ask him lol >< your point here kinda assumes he's either stupid town or scum partnering me and feels that i need the leg up by giving me a "free invitation" as you say | ||
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On February 16 2016 11:55 Trfel wrote: Eden, that's what I'm saying. That wasn't a veiled snippy rhetorical question because: I'm making my stance clear That wasn't a rhetorical question Though I suppose "snippy" is a matter of opinion. Though I am doubting that you would be annoyed as mafia here. It doesn't make sense. I guess it's more likely that I'm just being stupid I should really figure out that people don't place the same importance as I do in things.okay, you can join bresh lol ^^ | ||
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forced cheer vs. dumbtell damn you shape lol >< | ||
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what does a truffle sound like? truffle sounds like a truffle in this game #circularreasoningftw also not lynching a breshke...so i saw the points on shapelog, eden...the thing that was bugging me about his posting was it almost seemed over the top, like he's trying to sound cheery when he isn't. also, he clearly didn't understand what you were getting at lol >< if he didn't realize that any millers in the game would be aware millers disclaimer: i don't think i've ever played with shapelog, so the toneread is meh probably. for those who have played with him, is he always this OMG OMG sunshine!!! hahahaha! 2nd disclaimer: dumbtell lol...of course scum can also fail to read the op but eh | ||
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“A Very Rude, Rustic Man Carelessly Parks His Dirty Dodge® Van In Downtown Eden” >> << teehee ^^ (believe it or not that's actually how to remember irregular past participles in spanish) and...there was something else...oh, yeah, scott. he's townreading me o.0 scoooooottt whyfore you townreading your nemesis the rsoul? | ||
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On February 17 2016 10:33 Breshke wrote: rsoul why don't you want to lynch me and who do you want to lynch? <3s favorite devil's advocate ^^ truffle used to have this role, too, but he's an eeyore. or however that's spelled -bounces- nh yes i see you sl >> and i do remember that lol hard to forget when you were giving jack flack for defending me...jack flack, that's fun umm...well i'd say it's between shape and scott right now...lots of nullish nancies but scott townreading me for doing what he always scumreads me for is giving me the heebie jeebies and i still say shape's YAY!ness seems forced waiting for noon to kick in if he's town...i've actually been impressed with his play lately lol ^^ though i don't think i've played with the kushmonster since he turned over a new leaf, just observed | ||
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On February 17 2016 11:01 Tictock wrote: Do you have a read on him? Iirc I was getting mafia vibes from him in Outlaw D1, but before I was lynched I had changed my mind and thought he was town. Also I was SUPER sure he was mafia in Haunted Mansion, but he was town. So my read accuracy for GB is admittedly shit. mine rocks ^^ that said, he's posted nada. not sure why anyone would have a read on nada | ||
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On February 17 2016 11:00 Tumblewood wrote: SL, you're not going to convince anybody that they shouldn't lynch you by saying that you're an easy townread. If you were, perhaps we'd all be townreading you? no use lol >< it's sl tumblebumble hi! i've only been skimming...you still stuck at just eden and trufflewuffle? | ||
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On February 17 2016 11:06 Tumblewood wrote: I don't think that "I'm a bad lynch" is a townie defense. lol well tbh, it's a classic sl defense AND it's not uncommon to come from town anyway -shrugs- i don't have a particular issue with sl beyond i'm not sure what alignment he is yet...with someone else that might be concerning but he's like a mini-palmar without the added sexy | ||
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On February 17 2016 11:10 Trfel wrote: And you say that my reads are useless... lol yeah it's like your palmar one i know ^^ i can explain it more...essentially you approached eden in a way that meets my understanding of your core personality, in the way that you're apologetic and deferential and, yes, self-depreciating this is something i see way more often in your town games than in your scum games (though i don't remember ever seeing it in your scum games lol >< except maybe in a wall of text buried somewhere) like, seriously >< you sit there and tell me in your last game where your reads were mostly spot on that you're doing something wrong because you can't get people to listen to you? lol where is the fun TL mafia arrogance the rest of us have? but it's what makes truffle a truffle | ||
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On February 17 2016 11:15 Trfel wrote: Sicklucker, you do know that the "spew yourself town" ability is most easily activated while being lynched, right? shush you :/ i may just stop defending myself in lynches so this doesn't become the default way to deal with me | ||
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On February 16 2016 16:16 Tumblewood wrote: Trfel and Eden are town because mafia are usually afraid to get into a heated argument. I think everyone besides those two who has been active is making little town cred posts without substance. Shape was spammy as all hell last game. Is that just normal though? Maybe. Tictock, what do you think of Trfel and Eden arguing? Can you explain your townleans, tumble? cause this seems to suggest that the "active" people are posting just to post, which wouldn't lead me to think town | ||
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i'm all for lynching a palmar i think is scum, but a palmar i can't read? am i missing the strong scumread? nh bogus reads...lol well honestly, him and bogus reads is kinda par for the course, though i will say that when they don't match up well with mine that makes me wonder if i'm reading someone wrong or he's just the opposite alignment, and truffle and breshke are my definite do not lynches, so there's that i guess what i'm trying to say is i would think that unless you had a strong scumread based on something that couldn't easily come from a town palmar, i'm not sure why this is the tree you're barking up | ||
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On February 17 2016 11:22 Trfel wrote: I wasn't asking for an explanation, I was mentioning something that I thought was funny.... Anyway, I'm nearly caught up, so then I can go through the thread and once again completely fail to find mafia! Looking forward to it! Does anyone have someone they'd like me to give additional attention to? Maybe sicklucker and Palmar? lol >< no one is commenting on my shape toneread it's making me itch | ||
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On February 17 2016 11:29 Breshke wrote: ehh I have a problem with these two posts. the first one shows meaningful insight into why edens "setup speculation" wasn't scummy. This makes me think that he has obviously thought about what eden is saying and realised millers are self aware. then the second post he suddenly backtracks and says a bunch of words about not much. I know dumbtells almost always come from town and mafia hardly ever fake them but this isn't really a dumbtell because it isnt about the mafia roles. Like I don't get how the same person wrote these two posts. Scum lean on Shape <3! and this is why i love me some breshke | ||
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On February 17 2016 11:28 Trfel wrote: I thought you're not lynching Breshke because he is a good devil's advocate? In your above post, don't you imply that you not lynching Breshke has bearing on Palmar's alignment? (ie his main scumreads are town, and you don't like this) But if I am correct in your reason for not lynching Breshke, why would you be surprised that Palmar doesn't care about this reason if he is town? pfft i'm not lynching breshke because when he's a good devil's advocate and looking at everything from all sides he pretty much invariably is town -beats with a wet noodle- palmar having different reads from me is not related to why i'm reading anyone the way i am; we're just both tone-type players and i've noticed that our reads have been converging more and more as time goes on, even if for different reasons tbf though usually when we're both town and we differ he's right >> bastard | ||
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On February 17 2016 11:33 Tumblewood wrote: Pretend I quoted rsoul's question. At the beginning of the game (aka when I made that post) the active people (rsoul, Trfel, Eden, kush, TT, SL, Shape, Breshke) were about equally active, and few of their posts at the time provide anything of substance. Since then, rsoul, kush, and TT have taken on a role of facilitation-- that is, making sure the game progresses. I think that mafia are more content just to let this day pass slowly and quietly and would not actively try to prevent that. i buy this | ||
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On February 17 2016 11:35 Trfel wrote: Okay, that makes more sense. To be honest, I didn't see your scumreads on Shapelog and scott31337... yay for me. I'll take a look when I go through stuff again, but I thought that Shapelog genuinely enjoyed playing as mafia? So I'm not sure why his happiness would be forced regardless of alignment. But I'm really bad with this stuff anyway, you probably know what you're talking about. lol >< no clue about shape tbh, just that i got a forced feel from his "jocularity" i haven't played with him that i recall, which is why i've been trying to get people to talk about him :/ i'd like to hear more from scott before i string him up, though | ||
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shape is my preferred lynch who i'm trying to get people to talk about and scott i want to hear more from but he's the other there ^^ that's better also i think i like tumble, at least enough to remove him from the d1 lynch pool | ||
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On February 17 2016 11:40 sicklucker wrote: you think hes town right? nothing new me and everyone aparently does nope >> slllll if you're town you better not give me a reason to think you're not reading my pooooosts | ||
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On February 17 2016 11:40 Trfel wrote: To be honest, I have no memory of scott31337's play, really.... I have no clue how to read him, but I don't remember having any trouble reading him either. It's the weirdest thing. I'm just hesitant to lynch him because I love mislynching him as scum, his play has a few things that are a bit un-emotional and the same as either alignment, it makes him a bit harder to read IMO. And yes, I'm playing entirely with meta this game, just to annoy you I wonder how long I can keep this up for.the thing bugging me about scott is he hates my style of play...he always criticizes it in obs, and almost invariably scumreads me every single game lol >< something about being too spammy and "disruptive" and that's mafia or whatever. i want to know why he's townreading me | ||
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-bats lashes at- alternatively, if we're lynching players with pre-game excuses, gb is always fun to lynch lol | ||
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On February 17 2016 12:03 Trfel wrote: Like, right after this, The Shining vanished until I asked him a question. And then vanished again. It feels like his will to play, his desire to be involved, stopped after he got townread. See what I'm getting at? nh, ye i had no problem with his actual posts, but your points are good | ||
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shape scott gb shining but tbh the only ones i actually suspect are shape and scott...the other two are just eh to me. fine defaults if we can't find/agree on anything better. they're null-to-scummy as opposed to just null | ||
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On February 17 2016 12:45 scott31337 wrote: Catching up --- Don't forget about the Shining's Monday/Tuesday no net thing. Why don't you want to lynch breshke? You really didn't say anything here. I think you're aware of that... So this post from TW is slightly better - he gives his thoughts on what he's thinking - and beyond Breshke since he doesn't know his posting very well, I can agree with quite a bit of it. Maybe TW did roll town this game. Thank you for explaining this - I'd move TW slightly up and maybe noon - and I thought I had too many scumreads like Palmar... The nulls are well still nully - but I think GB has ample opportunity to come back, and Shining should be back in the morning too. also explained bresh, but basically it's a metaread in that when he's looking at things from all sides and voicing the opposite viewpoint (i.e. devil's advocate) he's pretty much always town...plus just a joy to have around but that's another matter altogether ^^ -pokes- i want to know why my nemesis is townreading me...has the world turned inside-out and upside-down? -throws things at shining- he's got a point. suck it up. you were around when you said you wouldn't be, but then poofed, so ye. i'm more interested in your reads once you catch up with the thread of dinky | ||
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de hecho, i prob won't hang around actually cause it's getting late lol >> is that my type of smile truffle >> i think that's my type of smile bad truffle wuffle, picking up the bad habits from the rsoul i believe in the town!shining (also carries are <3) | ||
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i was saying that sl was responding to your "call to arms" so to speak...i.e. doing something scummy to get the thread started lol | ||
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lol is it awful that i'm more happy with the later reads than the first ones? the play-by-play summaries of shape and tt were painful -flicks shining- also -shakes fist at damdy- i want a scott filter! lemme see if i can find the post again...it's basically that i'm used to scott scumreading me come hell or high water for being spammy -_- which ye i'm failing at again this game so i have no clue how it's different this time. he always thinks my "spam" is scummy or at best anti-town | ||
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On February 17 2016 04:23 scott31337 wrote: Palmar/Shape/Trfel leaning town Rsoul/TT lighter not has hard but townside of null GB/Noon/Shining/SL - not enough information Tumble/Breshke leaning mafia since Tumble looks just like his last game I played with him - and Breshke should have more light and shining and it's just not there. Eden usually shits town rainbows but there's a lot of fluff in his filter - so I'm still on the fence on him - wouldn't be the lynch today ye no explanation that's what i remembered | ||
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On February 17 2016 14:40 rsoultin wrote: nh lol is it awful that i'm more happy with the later reads than the first ones? the play-by-play summaries of shape and tt were painful -flicks shining- also -shakes fist at damdy- i want a scott filter! lemme see if i can find the post again...it's basically that i'm used to scott scumreading me come hell or high water for being spammy -_- which ye i'm failing at again this game so i have no clue how it's different this time. he always thinks my "spam" is scummy or at best anti-town blah posting this late is making me lose my train of thought palmar i agree on more or less...i don't see him as a d1 lynch more because of who he is than anything else tt was underwhelming for me, so that kinda lines up if i didn't microsleep too much through the summary lol >< your reads seem okayish tbh (more or less close to where i'm sitting) though the play-by-play gives me pause just cuz...ye, you and jeering about your shit wall of texts before that i have a tendency to townread you for when you're scum >< evil one | ||
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On February 17 2016 14:46 The Shining wrote: Ah yeah the no explanation is questionable. I dont want to give him an out here but you have approx the same filter length as someone else higher up on his town list, Shape. Maybe he doesn't think you're quite spamming yet? Scott, are these 2 spamming? -_- > doesn't want to give him an out > proceeds to give him an out i already asked for an explanation | ||
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On February 17 2016 14:50 The Shining wrote: Lmao yeah the tldr on TT was underwhelming, lots of TRs, no scumreads but confident we'll lynch scum becuz he's found so many town. Ignoring the play by play aspect of my read on Shape, though, do you agree or disagree with the weird flop read on Tumble? Like, the posts happen so close to eachother, sometimes within the same post. LOL @ being TRd as scum for WoTs. I only have 2 scum games but I've squeezed them into town games, too. I don't want to self-meta but my alignment should become more evident AFTER my catch-up WoTs. But I can understand where you're coming from with this since the last time we played together was I believe my last scum game(Drams?) ye heh >< you fooled me both times (drams, student V) with WoTs...i guess i'm just prime for falling for a shining i'd need to check that on shape re: tumble...prob in the morning, though objectively speaking i dunnae how alignment indicative waffling actually is. i'd gen say town is more reactive than scum. i already don't like shape though, and have a townlean on tumble, so -shrugs- | ||
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On February 17 2016 14:53 The Shining wrote: Rip. I'm also tired. There's another reasoning behind my question, though. But ya he should def start with explanations. It's also not that much of an out, since you already mentioned him calling your spam anti-town or scummy. Who gave him the out first? Outception. lol touche, though i'd argue i at least wasn't uber-direct about it @truffle, thanks for the look...and lol @ scumreads for agreeing with your reads. i understand but it's still funny >> | ||
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shape...i have no clue what your actual read on shining is after that post -_- palmar/sl not the lynch and tempted to townread noon by proxy pero...well he's not the d1 lynch anyway let's leave it at that lol >< palmar why you so bad? we're not lynching bresh | ||
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in your world being pretty open and sharing thoughts is null? and why are you using so many of my points/reads/thoughts to clarify your read on sl if you think i'm null? -_- | ||
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On February 18 2016 00:47 Palmar wrote: why are we not lynching bresh, give me 2 good reasons. This is possibly the scummiest post in the thread. because bresh is town ^^ or is that the point? | ||
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yup, totes i think we should lynch shape or scott and not town | ||
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shape is mafia cause tone (i.e. forced) which even he admits and cause i can't seem to get half the game to even talk about him though i mentioned my read like half a dozen times @.@ bresh started so yay bresh! and i think truffle looked briefly too if i recall | ||
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On February 18 2016 01:17 nooniansoong wrote: @GB did you read all of SL's filter or are you just going to stop there because you're 100% on him being scum already? | ||
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On February 18 2016 01:17 nooniansoong wrote: @GB did you read all of SL's filter or are you just going to stop there because you're 100% on him being scum already? -pokes- tbf though this actually makes me not want to lynch gb lol >< | ||
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On February 17 2016 04:23 scott31337 wrote: Palmar/Shape/Trfel leaning town Rsoul/TT lighter not has hard but townside of null GB/Noon/Shining/SL - not enough information Tumble/Breshke leaning mafia since Tumble looks just like his last game I played with him - and Breshke should have more light and shining and it's just not there. Eden usually shits town rainbows but there's a lot of fluff in his filter - so I'm still on the fence on him - wouldn't be the lynch today ye so cause i'm biased and don't think i'm ever fucking useless so want to call bs on your read instinctively >> i'm going to ask you about your TT and shape reads instead i think shape is scum ^^ you should be a hero and lynch him with me! \o/ or show me how i'm wrong | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:09 Breshke wrote: Yeah so why cant we lynch someone else then he claims his role tomorrow when we can actually verify what his power has done. this is a fair point though lol >< idk i'm kinda for lynching palmar even though earlier i said i wasn't...mostly cause he backed down from me which is really fucking weird from the norse god | ||
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though maybe that's not that strong in retrospect given how many people seemed to have piled on sl anyway pft -_- gb, where you at? | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:16 nooniansoong wrote: i think that's way too much to assume. i had no idea SL hinting at being blue and I'm reading the game. lol >< and here i was thinking your read on palmar had something to do with that i give you way too much credit, too, it seems yeah idk we could go the plynch route and pop onto gb or scott...not in favor of a tumble lynch though...and i still say palmar backing down like he did when i got in his face doesn't seem like a town palmar with a strong scumread at all lol >< | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:18 Shapelog wrote: Wait, So SL is talking about how i have to say the role and blah blah blah. Why has he not, come and say he is vet. I found this too.If he is Vet, why would he want to me claim his role. In fact, if he is Vet, why would he assume there is a medic in the game? either you guys both claim or you don't -_- the circling each other like hyper-active buzzards is gonna irritate me | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:20 Eden1892 wrote: Yo why aren't we lynching Shining? My one-point case was pure gas. Can't whiff. eh could lynch him, too, tbh...but the thing is he's a beast to have in the game after d1 if he's town and i can see him just not having the time here. i'm horribad at catching him when he's scum though so -shrugs- | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:24 Eden1892 wrote: Lets lynch Shining. Give me time to analyze the power role shenanigans. Don't try to resolve that without me. ESP since we might get more info about those shenanigans with the nightkill lol >< eden what's your stance on palmar? | ||
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is shining here and i'm missing him? like i think of gb, shining and scott i least want to vote scott cause he hasn't answered my questions yet :/ | ||
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On February 18 2016 04:42 The Shining wrote: Don't claim minutes before deadline if you're a role. actually yeah shining could totally be mafia for encouraging a claim and then disappearing -_- | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:29 Trfel wrote: I remember being willing to lynch him earlier. The reasons are in my filter. Basically he has no drive to lynch mafia. He went from "I'm scumreading Breshke" to "placing my vote on GlowingBear for now" without explanation. And his Tumblewood read doesn't feel natural at all. He's very uninvested and dry. The Shining's anger at being scumread felt a bit towny, maybe I'm misreading things, but I don't really think so? Damdred says that the best way to read The Shining is to look for his displays of emotion, and here those felt natural to me? I'll read his filter again, but I'd appreciate it if people would look at scott31337. nh, i can look at scott again, but palmar? | ||
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^ and mostly it just shows a complete lack of interest in the lynch...someone is talking about claiming, he encourages it and poofs. if you take both shape and sl at face value, we had spread votes and a lynch between two pr's, so mafia not being invested makes sense | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:34 Trfel wrote: I've looked at his filter and I only have one reason to think that he is mafia. The reason is that he had one very strong scum read, but then resorted to doing nothing and asking for people's cases, like he doesn't care about his earlier read. And as town, Palmar generally cares a whole lot about his early reads. Which is a pretty good argument, but other than this, Palmar seems like clear town. I'm worried that I'm just missing something. i know that i'm missing something we have a palmar being stubborn as hell on breshke, but not pushing it just harping, then scumreading me for calling bresh town and backing down when i tell him to put up or shut up, essentially...he does try to get my reads, but then does nothing with that either like i'm not sure what the "town" part of your read on him even is, truffle? | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:41 Trfel wrote: YES SOMEONE SEES THE LIGHT Plus maybe I'm not lynching Shapelog because of his claim, but I don't really want to vote with him.... @rsoultin, in simple words, trolling Palmar is town Palmar. Surely you remember this. You may not agree, and yes it's simple, but as a general rule it's a real thing. o.0 yeah um...no. like seriously, just no. if palmar were that easy to read i'd already have a godread on him @bresh...the only thing i could think of was that gb had a wagon on him and you and tumble didn't, but since he started the wagon it makes no sense | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:45 Trfel wrote: Okay, so why isn't it that simple? My read on Palmar has been pretty good ever since probably Linux/Assassination mafia, unless I'm being selective with my memory. I mean, okay, it's not quite that simple, but that's the basic idea. Can you show me a game of Palmar's Linux/Down Under level trolling where he is mafia? specifically that level? dunnae...he just fooled me his last scum game though where i thought he seemed pretty town for the not give a fucks | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:50 The Shining wrote: No one's down for a Tumblenanny? nope also not sure wtf you decide to park your vote on a non-existent wagon and bugger off if you actually want to place a useful vote | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:51 Trfel wrote: If you're talking about Outlaw, which I assume you are, then I read him as mafia in that game His trolling wasn't on the same level as the "interview" joke, or the three Palmars talking to each other. And his reads were more of a "standard" approach, aka giving reasons and then making reads based on those reasons. Again, the way he dropped his Breshke read makes no sense, but at the same time I don't feel very confident at all in lynching him, I'd still say he's more likely town. Given how this is gone I just want to cut losses, and scott31337 is a good lynch. nh :/ fine lol yolo...but i blame you if palmar turns out to be scum. you'll like...have to grovel at me and idk play a game with lex and myself later THE HORROR! | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:56 The Shining wrote: I've flipped him as town for low activity too many d1s to feel good about this -flings shoes at- answer me...if you really wanted to make your vote count why the fuck did you vote a non-existent wagon and then say you were going to bugger off? | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:57 Breshke wrote: Rsoul swap to scott. Seriously look at the resons for lynching scott and the reasons for lynching palmar. They are both weak as shit but noone is interested in the scott wagon but me and trefel who if i remember right are your two biggest townreads already did lol | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:58 GlowingBear wrote: LOOK AT HOW PALMAR'S WAGON SUDDENLY GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE ON IT VOTE KUSH VOTE SCOTT IF YOU THINK PALMAR IS TOWN YOU MORON | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:59 sicklucker wrote: tumblewood vote im out... ...wtf -_- | ||
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On February 18 2016 06:04 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, do you believe my Palmar read now? -slinks off into dunce corner- lol >< honestly i'm still not sure where the "troll" line is, but i do believe that your read on him is better than mine, fwiw | ||
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On February 18 2016 06:07 Eden1892 wrote: Oops. My bad reason, should anybody care, is that I'm used to Palmar caring out his early strong scum reads, and actively pushing them in the thread. There were obviously reasons to think this didn't per se mean anything this time, but it seemed good enough to consolidate under. nah i think that's where a lot of us were at? bueno, i'm gonna take a break...will prob review the thread tonight or first thing tomorrow morning, cause class all day @.@ joy | ||
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On February 18 2016 00:49 rsoultin wrote: ticktock, i find your read on me very confusing in your world being pretty open and sharing thoughts is null? and why are you using so many of my points/reads/thoughts to clarify your read on sl if you think i'm null? -_- ^ i still need you to answer this TT | ||
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On February 18 2016 06:12 GlowingBear wrote: I didn't townread Palmar, I was ok with the Palmar lynch but I preferred kush's lynch way better. Suddenly everyone piled on Palmar and it felt it was Mafia driven at that moment. i'm not sure how you can reconcile "mafia driven" with "not town" | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:48 The Shining wrote: Actually Palmar isn't bad either, he's done nothing towny and he could just be getting a pass because he posted direct stuff and fuxkwd off after ??? | ||
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On February 18 2016 06:27 The Shining wrote: And then my stronger read Tumble voted him. And GB made a point about how votes piled on Palmar. only you voted for tumble long before tumble voted for palmar lol >< bs meter alert both of these things happened AFTER your vote on tumble | ||
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On February 18 2016 06:28 Shapelog wrote: + Show Spoiler [Tumble's Read progession] + On February 17 2016 11:11 Tumblewood wrote: @rsoul : I the only people I have any real insight on are Trfel, Eden (town), Tictock, kush (townlean), you, Shapelog (null), Palmar, SL (scum). The other four have been too absent for my tastes... Breshke has been moderately active, stay tuned for a filter dive. On February 17 2016 11:15 Tumblewood wrote: EBWOP: Palmar as a scum lean because I have little confidence in that read. On February 18 2016 03:42 Tumblewood wrote: No one's acting definitively scummy, so I'm going to POE this vote. The 'Do Not Lynch' List Eden, for putting a lot of effort into finding scum and moving the day along productively. Trfel, for similar reasons. Also, I stand by that mafia would not have gotten into an argument like that earlier in the game. Tictock, for making clear and useful points. The 'Bad Lynch' List Rsoul, for helping in a trolly manner. Palmar, for being overconfident and having huge changes of heart. Kush, but I don't know why. Breshke, for making clear and insightful points, though sparse. The 'Wait And See' List GB, Scott, and The Shining for showing up late. That leaves us SL and... other SL. I keep seeing things in sick's play that are scummy, but then you all assure me that those are just normal things for him. Sick's defense amounts to "don't lynch me because that's a bad idea / I'm an easy townread." Shape has been acting similar to his last game as scum. I had the privilege of being in the scum QT with him, and his gameplan was this: play the "too scummy to be scum" card, and spam the thread (especially with votes) to make it harder to follow. I think both are valid options for a lynch; whoever makes the better case in the next two hours dodges my vote. On February 18 2016 05:30 Tumblewood wrote: SL, Shape, gB, shining, Scott, and Palmar are all reasonable lynches; I don't see what makes Scott the better option in Trfel 's mind. On February 18 2016 05:56 Tumblewood wrote: I can't sleep easy if I see any of the other wagons getting lynched over Palmar. ##vote: Palmar So he scum leans Palmar, puts him in the bad lynch pile, then calls him a reasonable lynch. And then ends up votes for him. SO the real question is....Why did Tumble vote Palmar (with a passion) when he put palmar in the bad lynch list? a good question -_- | ||
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between GB/shining right now their behavior just doesn't line up with how they voted i think i'm inclined to more or less believe you unless i have a reason to think otherwise bresh/trfel have been and likely always will be town for me unless eden's play has greatly changed i don't see him being scum here, either scott/tumble are kinda up in the air for me (;o; i really don't want tumble to be scum...it would be nice to be right on him) and i'd like them to answer questions yeah i need to reread tho | ||
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On February 18 2016 06:50 The Shining wrote: No voting for my stronger read happened before anything else. Even though I didn't think Palmar wasn't that bad of a lynch, he wasn't my preferred lynch. When I considered possibly switching, Tumble voted and GB made the point he made. It's pretty simple. hn...okay, could be don't leave the area lol >< | ||
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On February 18 2016 06:53 GlowingBear wrote: I wasn't townreading Palmar, then suddenly his wagon piled on and I thought could be Mafia driven, so I tried to lynch Kush I really don't know how to explain. Like, I thought he was an okay lynch but at the same time his wagon gaining torque felt off? tch yeah i think it just comes down to whether or not i believe that you feel strongly enough about the palmar wagon to ALL CAPS yet still don't feel strongly enough to vote the counterwagon sidelining all this and getting something to eat | ||
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Town breshke trfel shape (should put him higher but ye...see no reason to disbelieve him att) eden Townlean tumbler (going w/ first instinct though honestly the read changes for notes i don't quite get o.0) gb (the trollery mostly, will review later) from no fucking clue to scummy scott (tbh the sense that gb and tumbler are town makes me think scott could be, too, but i have no reasons to townread him based on his own play) sl (had him kinda townie for reasons but never am sure on him anyway...eod+other stuff) TT (still hasn't answered my questions unless i missed it @.@ plus the switch to palmar) noon (meh, timing on the lynch super convenient; if scott is town, doubly so) shining (need to review, gut said scum but his answers weren't horribad) ye -_- sorry i thought i'd get to it sooner | ||
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On February 18 2016 13:47 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, what? You changed your GlowingBear read? Don't get this wrong, you know I'll actually listen to you this time... Also, I didn't change my read on Tumblewood based on the pictures. Why do GlowingBear and Tumblewood being town make you think that scott31337 is town? I don't get it. lol >< like anyone ever listens to me on GB...although tbf i talk myself out of the right reads on him so maybe that's sometimes okay eh this just reminds me of drams a bit and even though his lackluster posting made me fine with lynching him (on top of being absent) he became more reactive at EoD which is what i associate with his townplay more + trolling lol >< nh, regarding scott...it's hard to explain really but i'll try like if he's scum we should see scum either bussing him for the cred, piling on palmar or at the very least resisting lynching him. GB and tumble both fall into that piling on palmar or resisting lynching him cat...like he flips scum the association is strong there but i'm fairly secure in my shape and eden townreads and the scott wagon looks pretty pristine disregarding sl if i'm right on tumble it doesn't make a lot of sense that scum is both bussing and voting palmar a vote spread with my possible scum all over the place suggests to me that both are town or scum is really disorganized, which i suppose is possible with a mostly afk scum team, but given how the game state i kinda doubt that | ||
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On February 19 2016 11:56 rsoultin wrote: o.0 sl wasn't the vig shot? i just assumed between sl and eden vig had to have shot sl lol >< does that mean i actually have to read the thread now? pfft nh...i guess if anyone shoots eden here it's shining @.@ bueno, anything interesting or should i just catch up? | ||
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On February 19 2016 11:58 Tictock wrote: Well I'm caught up and pretty confused. GB why would you fake claim, the vote the person who counterclaimed you? But then that means Shining as town shot Eden? I guess scum shooting SL kus he hinted at being blue kinda makes sense... Idk this is really weird. you! On February 18 2016 15:56 Tictock wrote: Uhh if I remember this right I said I find you very hard to read and so don't have a real opinion. Your activity is nice, but it's not really indicative imo. I guess I actually agreed with SL, I just didn't understand the way he phrased it. You could be either town or mafia, but you'll at least give us plenty to read you on. I'm not sure what points of yours I was using... if I stole them you can have them back... i'm not sure how you don't get this...you proceed to call me null and then you use my reasoning and my reads to back up what you're saying about sl, which is pretty damn weird if you don't even have an opinion on my alignment it's like citing wikipedia for a paper | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:00 Tictock wrote: It's been a day man, and this business isn't helping. I think I'm gunna take a 30 from this and let my head clear a little. -_- coward | ||
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On February 18 2016 23:49 nooniansoong wrote: @shapelog, so tumble changed his opinions and broke his own rule on no meta. That's not convincing me of his scuminess. Furthermore, that quote that breshke brought up: I think it's clear that tumble thought that the disappearing afterwards was what made shining scummy, not the encouraging a claim part. Then breshke calls it contradictory because tumble also enouraged a claim. But it's not contradictory because the scumread wasn't based on merely encouraging the claim. yo, noon...what are you saying here? | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:02 Tictock wrote: For the Flowers though... Just gunna vote who I though was scum last night. ##Vote: Tumblewood -throws shoes at- if you're not gone i want an answer >< | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:19 nooniansoong wrote: Disappearing after was what made him scummy. Not wanting him to claim. So it wasn't exactly hypo critical i'm confused because you're quoting me there and attributing it to...bresh? tumble? who? or are you just saying i'm awesomesauce, cause that's like totally true ^^ | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:23 nooniansoong wrote: Dude you are just repeating your accusation again without providing evidence which was what he asked for. So show exactly what he stole from you. Ps I think you're probs scum but just ignore that for now please. that's because it's obvious and i'm lazy and cba to find it -_- | ||
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On February 17 2016 18:25 Tictock wrote: 4) Tumblewood 5) Breshke 6)nooniansoong 8) The Shining 9) Scott 11) Rsoultin 12GlowingBear 13) sicklucker Ok this was where I was at earlier, Shining's recent posts make me fairly convinced he is town, Bre and Tumble are also townleans for me. So that leaves me with.... 6)nooniansoong 9) Scott 11) Rsoultin 12GlowingBear 13) sicklucker Rsoul is pretty null to me, I see her mostly playing peacekeeper and her posting style makes it a bit hard to read her. Overall though she is pretty engaged and has been pretty open with sharing her thoughts so she's probably not a great lynch today. SL is kinda in the same boat for me, and I'm tempted to just put him on a back burner but I promised to filter dive him. So here I go... + Show Spoiler [FilterDive] + First 3 posts still feel off to me, but Rsoul pointed out that his early posts were probably in response to Trfel's open so that might explain the odd feels I'm getting. I'm actually not a fan at all of the vote on Eden. It looks really opportunistic to me, and the followup reasoning is pretty shit. On February 16 2016 09:07 sicklucker wrote: Edens never anything but vt or mafia with that post. I think are day one lynch is locked up see ya torm I also called this post out earlier because of the bolded, On February 16 2016 09:13 sicklucker wrote: because on a somewhat pointless day one if I suspect someone as being mafia and not a powerole I will target them always. I dont even have to be too sure its just always the safe play I actually shouldn't have dropped this point, kus SL was talking about THIS particular D1 being pointless in this post which doesn't really make sense. I'm kinda thinking this was just an excuse to leave his vote on Eden. This is kinda backed up by the fact that SL is now saying he was voting for information but got none since nobody else voted Eden. I do sorta agree with SL about the setup speculation point. It's more beneficial to mafia than town imo, least in a semi-open setup like this. This read progression looks odd to me as well. On February 17 2016 07:10 sicklucker wrote: shapelogs town. im sure its my only read of the game. and maybe ticktock That first post is pretty confident, so what's making him unsure about me in the next post? Also this Shape read is outa nowhere. Another odd post, so far SL has only given reads on me and Shape, so this is his first mafia read but he doesn't want to push Rsoul kus she can spew herself town? On February 17 2016 10:40 sicklucker wrote: rsoultin is giving me mafia vibes but I still wouldnt lynch her day one because like me she has a sick ability. Its called the spew yourself town ability its the best ability to have I'm not at all sure how SL came up with these names. I'd argue that GB, Kush and to a lesser extent Tumble have all been just as lackluster at this point in the game. On February 17 2016 11:45 sicklucker wrote: ya lets just lynch scott or shining. literally no one else should be up untill they participate There's a pretty good shot SL is scum here, he is playing the path of least resistance on the lynch today and the one scum read he seems to have he doesn't want to push. Neither Kush nor Scott have done much to warrant any townreads, but I also don't see much mafia motivation in their posts either. Kush is not as active as I've seen him in recent games, but that's not necessarily indicative of much. Been a long time since i played with Scott and his posts could come from either alignment. I don't know what to do about GB. On the one hand I think he could actually be town, but on the other I'm very unimpressed with what he has posted thus far. Policy lynch is an option. + Show Spoiler + Just to be clear I'm suggesting this because GB is clearly not making an effort to make himself readable this game, and if he is town I doubt he is going to be terribly helpful anyways So I think this all leaves me wanting to lynch SL, and possibly policy lynch GB. ##Vote: Sicklucker This post...it's in the spoiler most people probably didn't read cause ppl are awesome that way ^^ eh nvm it's actually prob nothing lol @.@ he accepts my interpretation of sl's first posts...for some reason i thought there was more in there than there was | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:28 nooniansoong wrote: O yeah I guess I thought bresh said that lol.nevertheless it's a bad reason to scumread him nh...idk i think i've played with tumble before...maybe...or i'm confusing him with another newbie...also possible noooooon i think you're scum ^^ just so you know <3 | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:31 rsoultin wrote: nh...idk i think i've played with tumble before...maybe...or i'm confusing him with another newbie...also possible noooooon i think you're scum ^^ just so you know <3 lol fuck >< not sure how i confuse tumble with TL cool or whatever, lovely | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:29 Tictock wrote: Oh I'm not supposed to do that? Seriously where did I do this? Does the fact that I'm not sure about your alignment yet still read your posts mean something to you? + Show Spoiler [Hint] + Like right now, you are pestering me to talk about something you care about - Townpoints You insulate I'm stealing your reads or something somewhere, but refuse to backup where this happened - Scum points Simply put you are confusing, but not as interesting as some of the scummers >> at some point he'll realize this has already been adressed | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:35 Trfel wrote: I read the last few pages. I have actually no idea what is going on at all. If someone has something important, please yell at me to make sure I see it. Anyway, we're saying that mafia decided to roleblock Shapelog and then kill sicklucker? Presumably because they thought sicklucker was blue? And The Shining is the vigilante and shot Eden? Going with that for now, I guess, even if it makes no sense and I don't like it. it sounds retarded \o/ therefore we're looking for retarded scum! more seriously, though, shape's behavior around day start makes me want to call him town and dig my heels in, so the only other explanation is shining is scum ccing gb's fake claim thinking it's true, and that the real vig for some reason doesn't feel the need to cc himself... | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:37 rsoultin wrote: it sounds retarded \o/ therefore we're looking for retarded scum! more seriously, though, shape's behavior around day start makes me want to call him town and dig my heels in, so the only other explanation is shining is scum ccing gb's fake claim thinking it's true, and that the real vig for some reason doesn't feel the need to cc himself... ye, one-shot vig if vig isn't ccing here they're an idiot lol >< so retarded scum it is | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:48 Breshke wrote: no shining is definitely the real vigi here. I thought GB's claim was more believable at the time but wasnt aware of shinings situation. Idk if GB claiming the shot on the wrong player is alignment indicative or not. The take a bullet play certainly isn't because we are 2 ML from losing but yeah. Unless im wrong on my townreads on trefel or rsoul which im starting to get paranoid about the D1 votes really don't look that good for scott lol ye agreed like...GB will either do what a town GB would do at this point or he won't | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:59 Trfel wrote: Since you still seem to be here, I disagree with your analysis that mafia is stupid with regards to the night actions. I see it more like mafia who is more worried about power roles, thought that Shapelog and sicklucker were both power roles, and were worried about potential medic save on Shapelog (even if sicklucker is the medic). shhhh if i call them stupid and they start growling at me for unexplained reasons, we've found mafia! ye, i guess they could have thought getting rid of a medic sl was the best way to play that, but that still falls into the stupid cat...anyone thinking sl is actually blue with his posting at night and all that should have their head examined lol >< (tbf you're prob right) | ||
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On February 19 2016 13:26 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, I'm thinking that you are mafia Am I being stupid and wasting my time? The main reason is that I feel like the way you approached the last 45 ish minutes of Day 1 feels very mafia motivated. well seeing as that's impossible, maybe you should tell me what you don't understand | ||
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On February 19 2016 13:38 Trfel wrote: You didn't want to lynch The Shining because he's really good later on. But you were willing to lynch Palmar? Then as soon as Eden came back in and said he wanted to lynch The Shining, you suddenly produced a reason to be okay with lynching The Shining. And decided that despite wanting to lynch scott31337 earlier, you didn't want to lynch him because he didn't answer your questions (huh?) Then you switched from Palmar to scott31337, the main reason seeming to be trusting my read on Palmar? Which led you to talk to nooniansoong and GlowingBear in ALL CAPS telling them that wasted voting is stupid. For GlowingBear, you hinted (while using all caps) that he should vote to save Palmar, without actually telling him to save Palmar? And all this time, you don't have your own reason to townread Palmar? I really don't get it. zzz you're selectively reading again @.@ i said multiple times that how palmar was treating his breshke read and backing down from me did not look like a town palmar...i,e, scumread vs. the nullish read on shining and if you'd read my filter carefully at all you'd notice that i still wasn't keen on lynching shining when eden came back until i noticed that he'd pushed for shape to claim and then just disappeared >< for like 45 mins or something just poofed i'd tried to get scott to talk to me about his other reads and wanted that before lynching him, especially when i knew i was biased from the start against him and i had good reason to believe palmar was scum. yeah, i got cold feet on palmar, primarily cause i keep reading him wrong :/ but i'm not sure how that was scum-motivated? who ostensibly am i supposedly scum with that i'd rather lynch a scum-mate over palmar? lol >< and as for the ALL CAPS, that was just in response to GB's...also i don't actually remember saying anything to noon so what are you even talking about? | ||
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On February 19 2016 13:59 Trfel wrote: Okay, so it wasn't nooniansoong, it was The Shining. It seems like I'll have to keep working on this. Just, if you're mafia and you push your filter over 15 pages so I can't read it, then you're evil. well the mafia are demons xP (i think >> i've only been skimming the flavor lol ><) yeah, weird isn't it, that i don't like the throw-away votes? -gasps- | ||
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On February 19 2016 14:10 Trfel wrote: Meh, I'm being too lazy. What good is a super careful analysis if you're too lazy to actually read people's filters? XD It'll just come out exactly like I go into it thinking. Anyway, I'm pretty confident in Tictock being town, because he genuinely feels like he's trying to solve the game and he's been sharing good thoughts (one example being his vote analysis 21 minutes after EoD, which is an unnatural time for mafia to be providing critical thinking). In addition, his posts have felt quite free; looking through Tictock's mafia games, he feels more structured as mafia than I'm seeing in this game. I think I remember people being suspicious of Tictock, but I'm lazy, why? I get the Palmar vote being suspicious, I guess, but what else? nh, something about lack of scumreads...at least that was eden's reasons...noon doesn't like his tinfoil @.@ i can't remember if there was anything else. i honestly just feel meh on him...like i feel like sometimes his posts are interesting but a lot of times they feel disconnected from the thread. that said, he doesn't seem to have much time, so maybe that's why -shrugs- | ||
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On February 19 2016 14:21 Trfel wrote: I mean, I really liked Tictock's tinfoil! To me that felt very towny. Eden listed Tictock as obvious town, Shapelog also listed Tictock as confidently town. Were there any other notable EoD list posts I should be paying attention to? And I didn't feel a lack of scumreads from Tictock, he had a push on sicklucker and while he was gone until about an hour before EoD1, he's been systematically figuring things out and developing scum reads since. i really just need to poke through his and some other filters ^^ too lazy tonight though also need to take another look at tumble because i thought he was someone else @.@ which is just dumb but eh idk, i really think that unless i find a reason to think scott's town, he's prob the best lynch today, if only to better understand the d1 votes | ||
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On February 20 2016 06:15 rsoultin wrote: lexy says i should make a post i have nothing to post though #awesomersoul liar! you're scum! but...but...but...;o; | ||
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On February 20 2016 06:20 nooniansoong wrote: rsoul u like my lameass tt/gb/scott scumteam? hmmm tt idk but gb and scott yup ^^ like there's a chance gb isn't scum here but it's pretty small and getting smaller and nope not gonna explain, ha! i promise i might actually possibly really read filters tonight maybe >> noooooon i started yours and you has pages o.0 why do i not remember you being that involved? | ||
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On February 20 2016 06:26 nooniansoong wrote: dont meta me bro. you played like 1 game with me. i'm a guuuuurl!!! i promise >> ignore any rumors started by the lex >> HE DOESN'T KNOW (lol >< more seriously, noon, i'm not "meta-ing" you, but i have been pretty impressed with your play lately and yes i've hosted games you were in -flicks- maybe i'll see that shiny when i read your filter, but this is a far cry from super!town noon) | ||
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On February 20 2016 06:40 The Shining wrote: Can't. Resist. Is it cuz you have tmi? yup ![[image loading]](https://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbgja6amUA1qb9nyp.gif) tangentially, if i ever meet this guy in person, i'm leaving you, lex >> | ||
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On February 20 2016 06:41 nooniansoong wrote: 1. girls can be bros, you want me to call you sista? that's just weird. 2. i thought you were metaing me, saying that as town i'm not that invovled, therefore my involvement is looking scummy. So I misinterpreted you there.2 3. I suspect you haven't seen me as that involved because you usually start talking late at night, and I usually go to bed 10:30ish eastern. Whenever I wake up I see all these posts from you, trfel, shining and I'm like damn I wish I could have been there for that party. All I have for interactions is shittyass shapelog at lunch time. nh, that's fair so you're saying i have to read? :/ meanie | ||
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On February 20 2016 06:55 The Shining wrote: Lol @ #3 But ya RSo, Trfel threw a little doubt into me about you and it worries me that you're still producing posts even though you said you were trying not to spam, but your content doesn't look like it has any direction lol actually i've been around all day and only came on for this to play voice ^^ i've been trying not to use the game to procrastinate which results in... well, not getting anything done here or for school! \o/ (i suppose you can't play with us? everyone else is invited though, lol ><) | ||
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On February 20 2016 06:57 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, what the heck? I mean you can be as random as you like but it won't make me townread you. I still think that GB is mafia and scott really may not be, idk. oh, sweetie, what would life be like without truffle to scumread me every game cause he can't find the real scum?  >> come play voice >> | ||
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On February 21 2016 01:30 GlowingBear wrote: Rsoultin. Her flip on me doesn't make sense at all lol >< no? i mean, kudos for picking someone difficult to lynch over lynchbait, i have to give you that, but this just proves you've been reading ^^ i can totally see you not having time and making a play for reactions, but making a play that goes nowhere and having no reads? get rekt scum <3 | ||
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On February 21 2016 01:35 GlowingBear wrote: Truffle, my question is WHY people think I'm Mafia and not HOW people think I'm Mafia. I can understand being suspicious of me because I'm not doing much, but I can't understand what I DID that makes me certain Mafia as you say I am. All I see is broken meta. There are even two people saying that I'm Mafia for complete opposite reasons. One said I've faked anger and one said I'm not freaking out, therefore I'm Mafia. I sincerely don't know how to deal with this you're mafia cause in addition to not being around for anything, you aren't being reactive or making plays like a town!bear even when you are here you're mafia cause you spend hours trolling without putting any effort in, either by reading up or by trying to get reads on people currently present and if you're not mafia it's 100% your fault that you're prob getting lynched today. why do people think you're mafia? lol >< plz | ||
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On February 21 2016 01:37 Breshke wrote: Lynch Scott he doesn't care :/ you can't really think that gb is town here? | ||
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On February 21 2016 01:50 Trfel wrote: ....... But, you're voting for scott31337 still? uh huh and i'm incapable of changing my vote truffle 10/10 | ||
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On February 21 2016 02:11 GlowingBear wrote: What kind of plays do town bear does? You see, there is NOTHING in those reads of yours that is actually a Mafia trait. Just... broken meta, which has being proved that doesn't work on me. Instead, you're fucking scum reading me accordingly to thread sentiment after have being townreading me the whole game. My play hasn't changed since day1. Why scumreading me now? lol >< you can't have it both ways i'm either great at reading you or i'm not, so which is it, gb? and i'm talking about the type of plays that you pulled in drams, and in himalayas. conoces? you know, the ones that actually achieved something? | ||
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On February 21 2016 02:15 Shapelog wrote: Yeah I am semi-convinced that if GB flips scum. Then Rsoul/GB/X is the team. They are distancing themselves pretty hard now out of the blue. Meh could be wrong. @GB and Scoutt, Can I please for the love of (insert your leader of faith) get you reads list? lol >< why don't you just vote me off now then? because if gb is town and you fucktards yes, you, bresh, truffle and everyone else tinfoiling me for no reason cause i'm "good" at scum and not for anything that actually makes me scum (hint: there's not a god-damn thing that does) actually mislynch me in fucking lylo while i'm not here at deadline cause i can't be, i will skin you post-game >< if you're so fucking tunneled for nothing at all, yet alone some retarded idea that gb and i could be scum cause he said the word she like he'd really be talking about a convo from a scum qt IN THREAD mislynch me now where i can actually have a say and can laugh my asses off when scum rolls you after mislynching two of the STRONGEST TOWN PLAYERS on all fucking TL <3 bring it on bitches! you don't think it's at all convenient that GB's scumread is on someone scum ABSOLUTELY would LOVE to mislynch and who everyone is suspecting for no good reason? | ||
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On February 21 2016 02:21 GlowingBear wrote: Exactly, you're good at reading me, so this shift of your reads is so bad that can't come from a town Rsoultin. Well I've fake claimed vigi because I thought it could help town if it worked. I don't get why this is so scummy to the rest of you reads gb reads >< if you're town here and they try to lynch me next cycle i'm gonna be pissed at you | ||
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On February 21 2016 02:25 GlowingBear wrote: I'm sorry I'm not as helpful as I was at that game but I'm trying to do what I can. Yes I've been wasting time night1 with the paint drawings but I was just trying to have fun, which is the purpose for why I play Mafia In the other hand, I've been pointing out stuff that standa out to my eyes. The most important thing, to me, was kush's policy lynch which felt extremely off. And I've pointed that out. And I'm still doing this. So im not sure how I haven't being playibg at all old news ^^ | ||
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but here's my problem, truffle, shape, everyone i have been trying very hard to ignore and not get pissed off at all the scumreads over paranoia, unicorns and rainbows, toilet paper and farts on the wind. you may notice how little i've even said anything about any of it >< but it does piss me the fuck off that i can't even play a game on this site anymore without everyone suspecting me all the time for NOTHING, because YOU PEOPLE think i'm capable of anything as scum i can't be here next cycle for EoD. if we lynch town here and you fucktards persist on scumreading me over paranoia, town will 100% lose this game without lynching a single scum, and the only thing i hate worse than being mislynched is being mislynched in fucking lylo by my friends and hard townreads >< this is EXACTLY why i stopped playing while in school last year so if you idiots can't figure out how to play mafia and actually make reads based on more than OMG rsoul looks town but she could be MAFIAS! cause -insert tunneled narrative w/ no evidence- or -she looks town but she can do anything as mafia- do it now breshke shinking truffle shape right now. lynch me now so i don't have to put more emotion/effort into a game and let my schoolwork suffer when you're gonna lynch me anyway for nothing but paranoia ^^ or grow a couple brain cells and learn to fucking play the game cause i tell you one thing, i will 100% not fight any fucking lynch on me anymore that is over paranoia. it's not worth it, not the tears, the headaches, or the potential ulcers if you have a REAL accusation or question i'll address it but i will 100% let you fucktards lynch me over nothing without lifting a god-damn finger if you persist on this idiocy and i strongly suggest you do it today rather than in lylo ^^ i'll call you all idiots and bad either way but at least this way you'll have another chance at actually winning the game shape, i can just read how things will go >< and i'm not going to simply not go to school next cycle just so we don't lose the game because y'all are being morons. so yes, i'm angry. and yes, if you're gonna push me over unsupported narrative bullshit instead of actually playing the game, pull the trigger now so you have a chance to get out of your fucking demented tunneled mindset where you're playing off of WRONG pre-flipped associations ^^ i'll be back before flip -_- | ||
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On February 21 2016 02:55 nooniansoong wrote: Damn rsoul chill the fuck out. Everyone gets suspected. Its part of the game. And I saw on stats that you are almost never mislynched. Like I think you have been mislynched once or never? And you aren't even close to being lynched today. I almost want to lynch you just to teach you a lesson. i don't give a flying fuck what you think, noon when you actually get scumread for just being you every single game, you can have an opinion ^^ if you can't figure out where this is coming from, all i have to say is drams | ||
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On February 21 2016 03:02 nooniansoong wrote: I do lol. Day 1 of every game people want to lynch me. yeah, well, i doubt it's cause, and i quote: "she hasn't done anything that she couldn't do as mafia" viz a viz the amazing marv -_- blah -_- i still really mean it. i'm not gonna defend myself against nothing, and i would rather idiots lynch me today than in lylo if town is that determined to throw. i'll leave the thread and clear my head, though | ||
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On February 21 2016 03:07 GlowingBear wrote: Ok, rsoultin, dear, consider I'm not Mafia for a second. Who is then? if i think there's any way in hell you're not mafia here i'll lynch scott ^^ if there's one thing i'm confident of, though, gb, it's that you'll make it pretty obvious you're town if you actually are town | ||
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On February 21 2016 03:36 GlowingBear wrote: So if I'm not mafia and scott is, who is with him? I'm not mafia, dear, and I have no idea what you're expecting from me. I think you could be town after that post of yours, so at least try to work with me under the possibility I'm not scum. lol if you're not mafia it's basically auto ^^ unless one of the un-cc'd blues is actually mafia or i'm somehow wrong on truffle or breshke, scum is between the four remaining players, and i'm actually thinking noon may be town now but regardless...we'd be fine if we made a mistake | ||
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On February 21 2016 04:29 Shapelog wrote: There is a shitty meta point i could bring up about GB, but i am not sure about it being true and not. there are several of us here more familiar with him than you are; if you think it's relevant, go ahead | ||
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On February 21 2016 04:38 Shapelog wrote: So Rik talks about how GB is mafia because in this game (outlaw) GB called Ness Scum!. In this game. He does it with SL. Really Shitty meta read is really Shitty Rsoul. Or maybe I am on to something and just do not know it, :/ i think context is important here | ||
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On February 21 2016 05:57 Tictock wrote: What did Damdred do to your D&D game? Why do you only want to snuggle your vote up with those guys? cause they're my townreads and i haven't been reading? | ||
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bueno, i'm spending time with the bf and finishing up my schoolwork but i'll be around later can leave questions here for me; i'll find them | ||
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(actually sunday is my day with lex >> but shhh...i'm not a sap or anything >>) ' basically i'll entertain suspicions on trfel, bresh and noon 'cause i'd rather not be blind-sided but i'm fairly confident they're all town that just leaves two scum between three players \o/ and a mislynch before mylo/lylo shape and shining are just conf town forever and if you're a blue letting scum fake-claim here (much as that's doubtful in either case) you're a moron and we deserve to lose lol >< so i need whoever is town between tumble/scott/tt to just pull out all the stops and make this game especially easy for us plzthx <3 (for anyone still suspecting me i'd be happy to discuss anything?) will do some real filter diving either tonight after EoN or tomorrow when i get sick of studying for the grammar exam | ||
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On February 22 2016 02:55 Trfel wrote: My reasons to suspect rsoultin basically come down to associations. However, I'm pretty bad at associations So meh. I'll just accept rsoultin as town for now at least.Rsoultin, do you not agree with my townread of Tumblewood based on his play being dramatically different and the written stuff? Am I being incorrect in the strength I'm giving this read? lol obviously you're incorrect in the strength you're giving the read >< there's like literally no reason to be that sure of someone you've only seen play once...(or am i getting that wrong?) as for writing, i have and probably will continue to make notes as scum in the future...so no, i don't really see that as a CONF TOWN anything...i've said from the beginning that i didn't understand the notes reads like you could well be right but i think if you are in this case it's more luck than anything else >> | ||
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On February 22 2016 07:20 Tictock wrote: Kush can you explain your scumread on scott to me again? Also @ Rsoul who do you think we should be lynching today? I'm not really around till I get off work, should be a couple of hours gut reaction: scott but actually i'd rather look through filters first ^^ that's why i haven't dropped a vote already you still stuck on tumble? | ||
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On February 20 2016 01:52 scott31337 wrote: So GB fakeclaimed - lovely - I think he's stirring the pot Shining looks legit I love how rsoul still wants me dead I had a dream last night she was mafia with Trfel and GB so it must be true yet no vote until much later lol >< with gb on me and people bandying around the paranoia reads, it's possible scum was testing the waters here? the reluctance to push the counterwagons is pretty weird from both sides if scott is actually town also, the bolded smacks a lot of TMI to me, given the weirdest thing about GB's claim was how little it actually accomplished from a scum perspective (>> sorry shining, but seriously, if there's a known vig in the game who else would have shot eden like a moron lol >< or then proceeded to question shape so weirdly about the track?) why does scott immediately assume gb is just fucking around, and why doesn't he vote him if he's scumreading him? (plus i still say his early townread on me for things i do every single game which he always scumreads me for is pretty weird xP i would so love for that trash read to be right lol) | ||
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On February 18 2016 03:42 Tumblewood wrote: No one's acting definitively scummy, so I'm going to POE this vote. The 'Do Not Lynch' List Eden, for putting a lot of effort into finding scum and moving the day along productively. Trfel, for similar reasons. Also, I stand by that mafia would not have gotten into an argument like that earlier in the game. Tictock, for making clear and useful points. The 'Bad Lynch' List Rsoul, for helping in a trolly manner. Palmar, for being overconfident and having huge changes of heart. Kush, but I don't know why. Breshke, for making clear and insightful points, though sparse. The 'Wait And See' List GB, Scott, and The Shining for showing up late. That leaves us SL and... other SL. I keep seeing things in sick's play that are scummy, but then you all assure me that those are just normal things for him. Sick's defense amounts to "don't lynch me because that's a bad idea / I'm an easy townread." Shape has been acting similar to his last game as scum. I had the privilege of being in the scum QT with him, and his gameplan was this: play the "too scummy to be scum" card, and spam the thread (especially with votes) to make it harder to follow. I think both are valid options for a lynch; whoever makes the better case in the next two hours dodges my vote. On February 18 2016 05:30 Tumblewood wrote: SL, Shape, gB, shining, Scott, and Palmar are all reasonable lynches; I don't see what makes Scott the better option in Trfel 's mind. Also, re: Tumble, this is just interesting...I know that TT brought it up before, but the thing that caught my attention here is that Palmar is literally the only one on this second list that wasn't in his "wait and see" or "viable lynch" lists...though tbf I can at least see it being possible that he just genuinely didn't want to lynch the mostly afk players before they got a chance to play, and those were the only other ones up for lynch. Tumble, why GB in particular of the other three lynches and not, say, scott? ^ quote for reference to what i'm asking about | ||
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On February 22 2016 12:17 Breshke wrote: Tumbles filter really confuses me. Top post was pre D1 lynch second post was post lynch. First of all im fairly sure the lynches were never at 2 votes each especially not when tumble ended up voting for palmar and also in the first post he calls people good lynches and in the second he says the same people were bad wagons. I know there was a lynch inbetween so we got more information but i don't really see him using any of that information to make this change of reads. Ive pointed out other disconnects in his posts before and im not sure if it is just because he is a new player or not but he also doesn't feel very involved in the thread and when he is around i feel like he just takes pot shots at people. Still want to lynch scott first because cant risk bringing him to mylo Lol >< ninja'd a bit... but actually yeah breshke they were actually all around 2 i think when i just looked through the vote thread? | ||
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On February 18 2016 05:52 disformation wrote: Vote Count - Day 1 Palmar (3): Sicklucker(2): Ticktock, GlowingBear(2): scott31337 (2): The Shining (1): Eden1892, Breshke(1): Palmar Shapelog (1): Tumblewood (1): The Shining, Trfel (0): Eden1892 (0): Not Voting (0): At this time, Palmar is slated to be lynched. Day 1 ends in on 21:00 GMT (+00:00). The voting thread is here. Only votes there will be counted. here it is | ||
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On February 22 2016 12:25 rsoultin wrote: less than 10 minutes? ah, but looks liked he'd returned to the thread for the last 30 mins leading up to EoD :/ ye idk then it's a long time to sit on the shape vote lol >< | ||
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and an explanation of scott's EoD 2...why you didn't just vote GB when you were apparently already scumreading him and why the comment on "stirring shit up"...like what did you see that made you think that specifically? i'll prob have questions for TT too but his filter's longer so i started with the others @.@ also, the GB thing post-lynch tumble... | ||
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On February 22 2016 12:49 Tictock wrote: This is weird. I come back to find people talking about the same stuff I brought up N1. I can't even be upset that you guys ignored me then about it too kus we lynched mafia yesterday. I'm not sure I shouldn't just play some SC or something tonight and let you all do your thing. hold! i actually caught one of you in-thread! your palmar vs. scott read you flipped from a kinda townread based on truffle's read on palmar to saying palmar's filter was worse than scott's? elaborate | ||
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On February 22 2016 12:52 rsoultin wrote: hold! i actually caught one of you in-thread! your palmar vs. scott read you flipped from a kinda townread based on truffle's read on palmar to saying palmar's filter was worse than scott's? elaborate to add onto this, i know you're scumreading tumble but you're not sure on him and you keep saying scott is town, so i'm not sure how you're seeing this game right now tbh -_- what exactly were gb and (tumble?) doing at EoD1, then? also lol >> if you're gonna hyper focus on a list title it's prob worthwhile to point out that the only one outside his original PoE list on his lynch list later just so happened to be conveniently up for lynch. for some reason that just stands out a bit more than but but but he was on the bad lynch list! | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:10 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, is there any possible way that Breshke could be mafia here? given his d1 i wouldn't have said so, but i'll look back through all the filters tomorrow, too lol >< including yours! muahaha (just so i can be fairly certain of my townreads and make sure i'm not calling someone town too easily) noon is prob my least confident, but tbf he's also the one i'm least familiar with and that's why | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:07 Tictock wrote: My real issue here is that Scott/Tumble is just too fucking easy. Everything GB did was probably just pure WIFOM play but I'm sure he tried to go down in a way that would give his team a leg up. If GB/Scott/Tumble is the scumteam, and we lynched town!Palmar D1 and our vig shot town!Eden N1 then I'm submitting this game for worst town 2016. @.@ palmar getting lynched for that nonsense isn't "worst" anything, though i agree that the vig shot was pretty blah also this is just never an argument. scum teams are RNGd -shrugs- and a mostly inactive scum team would make a lot more sense with the d1 votecount, assuming that scott is scum | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:15 Tictock wrote: Yea, I townread Trfel, and he had a decent explanation for his townread on Palmar so I went with that when forming early reads. When it came time to consolidate in that crazy EoD I thought Palmar looked worse than Scott, I didn't take Trfel's word for it at that point. Plus I didn't and still don't see what the push on Scott D1 was about. I'll admit that I really only have D1 VCA to backup my read on Scott, but I think reading him by his activity/involvedness (shutup spell-check that is so too a word) is a terrible heuristic. yeah, see this is my problem -_- when i read your filter i got all of this but what i fail to see are the whys why did you think scott had a cleaner/better filter than palmar? don't just tell me that you thought it | ||
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On February 22 2016 12:07 rsoultin wrote: yet no vote until much later lol >< with gb on me and people bandying around the paranoia reads, it's possible scum was testing the waters here? the reluctance to push the counterwagons is pretty weird from both sides if scott is actually town also, the bolded smacks a lot of TMI to me, given the weirdest thing about GB's claim was how little it actually accomplished from a scum perspective (>> sorry shining, but seriously, if there's a known vig in the game who else would have shot eden like a moron lol >< or then proceeded to question shape so weirdly about the track?) why does scott immediately assume gb is just fucking around, and why doesn't he vote him if he's scumreading him? (plus i still say his early townread on me for things i do every single game which he always scumreads me for is pretty weird xP i would so love for that trash read to be right lol) comment on this, too, please ^^ if you can't see why scott is being scumread i'd like to know why you think our questions/reads are invalid also, what don't you understand about VCA not clearing scott? gb screams some bs about votes piling up on palmar and instead of voting scott as would make sense there, he votes off-wagon. like you say he should have voted palmar, but you do realize that by not voting scott he saved him just as surely as if he had voted palmar there, right? it's not rocket-science and ppl have been explaining to you that this EoD 1 analysis you've been doing is bad for quite some time now what don't you get? | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:21 Trfel wrote: The only reason I have at the moment to potentially scumread nooniansoong would be that his reads are too good for him to be town. But I'm thinking that this is really really stupid. So, this aside, if he's scum, he's playing a really incredible game and at this point I think I'm more sure of him than Breshke, though Breshke is still probably town. Tictock, do you mind explaining why you felt that Palmar's filter was worse than scott's on Day 1? I'd characterize scott's filter as simply not really being present, and Palmar's filter more of trolling/minimal explanations for reads. To me, this makes Palmar's filter feel more useful (if you ignore the useless posts, I felt that Palmar still had more content). I'm assuming you disagree, or are you thinking about it differently, or what? lol >< i've seen this thing about him lately in the games i've been hosting, but actually noon's been playing some pretty good games here latel...so yeah i wouldn't put too much weight on that well, i'll take another look at bresh...i'll be honest here and admit that though i noticed he was largely absent for at least the latter half of d2, i've kinda not been reading him too closely ever since i townread him earlier | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:29 Trfel wrote: No, nooniansoong is a terrible player who can never have his reads correct  I know, which is why I said it was a really stupid reason and I'm currently giving it exactly zero weight. The point I tried to convey was that I've played in most of the games with the "new style" nooniansoong and I that's the best reason I have to scumread him, and it's complete garbage. Plus he deserves a dig or two for last game (okay not really but I'll pretend)lol i was pretty sure you were joking but it can sometimes be hard to tell with you >> | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:35 Trfel wrote: So when we lynch scott and Tictock and they're both mafia and Tumblewood is town, do you admit that my meta reads aren't completely terrible any more? >> oh come now, as if you need further validation from me after i told you that someone with near perfect reads isn't horrible just because he has trouble getting people to listen to him lol >< you just want to lord it over me! well i hope tumblewood is scum just for that! | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:36 Breshke wrote: I can give excuses why I was gone D2 but it doesn't really matter because I'm fairly sure it won't affect anyone's reads and after looking at my filter you guys will still townread my anyway. I feel like if I was tumble Scott or TT the game is really easy and in not feeling that from their posts. Other than TT I don't see them actively questioning the like thread agreed townreads nor do I see them saying "this game is easy it's the other two". I think the best way to say it is keeping their options open? I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself right um, you mean, if we think it's easy and poe'd down to the three of them, shouldn't they think it's even more in the bag, since the town player presumably already knows who the scum are? essentially? | ||
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okay, yeah, i see where you're coming from lol >< just not really sure what we're supposed to get from it? like, if it's just scott and tumble here maybe they're having trouble finding a townie to push cause no thread pull/presence, but you'd think they'd either try something anyway or just buss -shrugs- idk | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:45 Trfel wrote: pssst Tumblewood isn't mafia I forget why but he isn't My early townreads are almost never wrong. Remember PepperMintTea? Kuragari42? DoYouHas? I'll figure out why he is town later, but he's town.Next question, why is Tictock townreading scott31337? I think I know the answer... lol >< shhhh pre-flipped associates are baaaaad truffle wuffle | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:48 Trfel wrote: But when they're correct? Okay, you're right, I should stop being a jerk. And no, I'm nowhere near as confident as I'm pretending to be, but I'm finding it quite fun to taunt you Seriously though, let me catch up on the thread (1 page to go) then I'll go through their filters and make up some reasons to fit my pre-made conclusions.always the best way to | ||
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I don't know if it's how I phrase things or people aren't reading or what, but one of you has to be town, so I'll ask again, more simply: [b]SCOTT: Why did you wait so long to vote for GB D2? Why did you say his claim was "stirring the pot"? TICKTOCK: Why did/do you think scott's filter was/is cleaner than Palmar's? TUMBLE: Why when asked who you would have voted D1 if you didn't vote Palmar did you say GB? What were you doing/thinking for the 30 minutes you were in thread until you voted Palmar last minute? | ||
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ATTENTION I don't know if it's how I phrase things or people aren't reading or what, but one of you has to be town, so I'll ask again, more simply: SCOTT: Why did you wait so long to vote for GB D2? Why did you say his claim was "stirring the pot"? TICKTOCK: Why did/do you think scott's filter was/is cleaner than Palmar's? TUMBLE: Why when asked who you would have voted D1 if you didn't vote Palmar did you say GB? What were you doing/thinking for the 30 minutes you were in thread until you voted Palmar last minute? Edited for ugly coding @.@ | ||
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On February 23 2016 10:06 Tumblewood wrote: I woke up pretty late on the day of the deadline, so I spent most of the time catching up. I voted Palmar 5-10 minutes before deadline after realizing my Shape vote would be wasted. The question I answered was, "if you could do it again, who would you vote instead?" and yes I said GB. Lol >< I mean, why GB? I understand that you said him but why did you say him instead of someone else? I'm trying to understand your thought process if you're town, which I do think is quite possible tbh. | ||
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On February 23 2016 12:18 Tumblewood wrote: I just looked through my notes and chose the person with the most negative annotations on their page. Easier than actually reading the thread. okay, that tracks...actually your filter in general tracks pretty well lol >< which is leading me toward agreeing with truffle (and noon?) on his scumteam, but anyway can you talk to me about tictock? i see where your read progression went with noon and bresh but not with tictock (though i may have missed it in your filter) | ||
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i might scan the thread in the morning but like as not, at least after i go to bed in about an hour, i won't have a chance to until after EoD...shouldn't be a problem or anything but just letting y'all know | ||
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On February 24 2016 06:24 Trfel wrote: Well, if anyone wants to talk about anything, please let me know. I could use a bit more motivation. I'm town and The Shining is town. Two mafia in the following: Tictock Tumblewood Breshke nooniansoong rsoultin I should probably look through all of them at this point And no more stupid associations.i really can't be around 'till later...just checked in to see the flip :/ break and compare notes tonight? | ||
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hey truffle what are you doing in those spoilers? cause you're coming to town conclusions but those points seem to be your issues with both filters? | ||
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On February 24 2016 12:41 Trfel wrote: I provided the majority of my comments, regardless of conclusion. Anything I felt was relevant. nh :/ oooookay. so i guess you don't generally find positive things relevant? lol >< nvm it's not that important, i just find it odd to read so much text about x is weird, y is weird, this could maybe be town, weird, weird, weird, conclusion: town mathematically your post is pretty skewed lol | ||
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Tictock: GB town for meta (inactive vs. more active scum game) + Show Spoiler + kinda awful way to meta considering GB had a pre-game excuse for low activity that would not have been effected by alignment, and one scum game is hardly enough to call it "meta", but awful doesn't necessarily equal mafia. GB plynch for being inactive + Show Spoiler + stating the obvious, but maybe early enough to be relevant? GB starting shennanies more likely town cause scum should want to mislynch palmar + Show Spoiler + could believe it WTFs at GB's play + Show Spoiler + fair...it was pretty @.@ Long nullish post read on GB leading to vote + Show Spoiler + on closer inspection it does seem like there were more reasons in favor of GB being scum, even if they were only small reasons...feels genuine, especially since scum lining up for the buss would probably go out of their way to be more definitive about it. prob too late in the phase to be angling to slide off the wagon Tumble: GB on wait and see list for not posting + Show Spoiler + reasonable Makes reasonable lynch list + Show Spoiler + also reasonable Scumreading GB for townread on shape, but scum can be correct for shitty reasons + Show Spoiler + closing the door on a flipped read came early with the scott and GB wagons tied up...town points Breshke Criticizes TT's townread on GB based on bad meta + Show Spoiler + mindmeld, town points GB in scumlist with 3 townies (palmar, scott, shining) all of them low activity + Show Spoiler + nh Vig prob is GB + Show Spoiler + power of suggestion or prior knowledge? that's awfully coincidental lol >< No real stance on GB, just talks about claim and asks others about claim + Show Spoiler + i can understand the confusion on the claim, but the lack of a stance still gives me pause in that if this was a play to get townread (and it seems like there can't be many other possible reasons for it) the wait and see approach is in line with scum motivation Noon Criticizes TT's townread on GB + Show Spoiler + less town points cause no reason, but still some town points GB plynch from available town plynches (scott, shining, etc.) + Show Spoiler + ballsy for scum, though of course he's not locked in Says whatever even though he townreads palmar, however he does keep pushing the GB lynch throughout that time + Show Spoiler + speaks for itself Directing shot (or check) onto GB + Show Spoiler + ballsy for scum to do with a scum RB GB scum cause paint drawings and no reads + Show Spoiler + still self-evident Reaction to fake-claim: hard scumread + Show Spoiler + lol at this point i'm thinking of not even continuing this. if noon is ever scum with gb in this game he's hard-bussing the shit out of him for no reason all game Trfel no mention of GB until shape's claim, possible plynch with noon?? + Show Spoiler + nh defaults to GB then slides over to scott when scott is mentioned + Show Spoiler + convenient after lynch is "fine" with GB being mafia + Show Spoiler + okay very wishy-washy on GB read but still votes early on it when scott is still viable + Show Spoiler + you were beginning to make me uber paranoid there truffle wuffle >> meta reason for poss town gb but continues voting him + Show Spoiler + problem here is the second post comes about 10-15 mins later after no real response to his meta reason @.@ truuuuuffle lol >< okay, so basically i think noon isn't worth looking into until we have a second scum flip, if then. he was riding GB's ass so hard that if he was scum with him they literally had to decide to buss one another from the get-go...which is something that GB has done with a scum buddy (Damdred) in the past, but I feel like he was more over-zealous about it then (caveat: hard double-buss is possible given GB's limited time, just don't really think so) after that tumble and ticktock's pushes on GB both actually feel okayish, although of the two i like tumble's better just because it's more consistent without weird hiccups in the middle bresh actually looks pretty bad from this angle -_- and truffle doesn't look much better. i'd almost swear up and down that truffle is town this game though so i'm beginning to wonder how valuable this approach even was lol >< TLDR: noon prob town unless hard double-buss is the play...not worth looking at w/ 2 scum left need to look at bresh closer to make sure my townread wasn't premature @.@ the way he treated GB could easily come from scum ye i'll take a different approach to this later, since it wasn't as valuable as i thought it would be...hopefully before EoN | ||
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On February 25 2016 05:16 Trfel wrote: Hey rsoultin, who is mafia? lol >< fuck if i know i'm pretty confident you and noon are town (barring some paranoia on the part of noon that is probably just silly) i actually think tt/bresh kinda have a hard time seeing either of them with tumble lol >< and tumble's fliter is really pretty direct like...it's kinda awful cause it's PoE, but honestly i went through breshke's filter again and the reasons i townread him (namely seeing a lot of the same things in things like shape's posts and sl's diary entries) are still there, but i'm not sure if i should have given them the weight i did. disregarding that, he's been extremely peripheral all game :/ as for tt, it's just a lot of swinginess that i can't really follow well and probably a bit of my natural inclination to really distrust anyone i have to ping half-a-dozen times to get an answer out of @.@ | ||
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On February 25 2016 05:28 Trfel wrote: I wonder if the fact that we agree means that we're right or that we're wrong? Or if it means that you're mafia and I'm stupid >< (though the two aren't mutually exclusive) I still feel like Tictock has been a reactive player and he hasn't been involved. I mean, I feel like he's been interactive but not involved, if that makes sense? And I don't like that at all. It's not related to his cases, but rather I don't feel like he's been pushing things... But the mafia!Breshke wouldn't save town!Palmar thing makes a lot of sense, though, right? Did Breskhe commit to it before it looked like scott vs Palmar? ummmm breshke committed to it when Palmar was at 3 GB was at 2 and...shining? i think was at 2? he went to scott with you then lol >< bringing a third wagon to 2 + Show Spoiler + and yes, it probably means it's noon and tumble >> lol you know how great our track record is when we agree \o/ | ||
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On February 25 2016 05:33 Trfel wrote: So, giving Breshke too many townpoints for this isn't really good. If he's mafia, he left himself open to most any lynch. If the scott wagon didn't work out, he could have switched his vote to most anywhere. ye that's why i was asking who he was scumreading other than sl, cause i didn't see anyone else...just oh sl looks like he may be blue okay let's list all these guys instead | ||
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On February 25 2016 05:38 Trfel wrote: And yeah, to be honest I stand by my earlier comment of Breshke not having as insightful comments or following them up as well as I might have expected. Breshke definitely hasn't been bad, he's been good, just not up to his best level as town. Of course this doesn't make him mafia, but I don't feel it's a good reason to townread him for this alone. I do feel that nooniansoong's scumread on GlowingBear is strongly town indicative, but not 100%. There are a few tonal things that make me think he is town, off the top of my head one of them is when he was hoping that scott31337 and GlowingBear aren't mafia together (so that the game wouldn't be too easy), but nowhere near as many as I remembered last game. Maybe he could be mafia here, even if it's unlikely, I'll take a look later (especially with a no-lynch to get extra time). For what it's worth, I think rsoultin is town? But the worth of this read is zero, so yeah. Saving for last. rofl >< if noon is scum here i've fallen for gb's gambit twice. which is probably why it bugs me, cause i know gb has done the hard double-buss thing before nh...i dunnae if i'm in favor of a no-lynch tbh, but that's just for personal, once the school week starts up i'm not gonna have any time again, reasons...lol, well, that and all it takes is one wrong townie in a pool already pretty uncertain with 5 players...at least with 6 the town still has the voting advantage alternatively, it could mean i get nk'd before i have to make a fool of myself trying to lynch the "least townie" scum lol >< so i don't really have a strong opinion on it ^^ | ||
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On February 25 2016 05:45 Trfel wrote: Haha, TL Mafia basically never uses three blue setups. The latest one I remember was masons + 1-shot cop. Aka, three really weak blues. And since it's no-lynch allowed, not no-shoot, it's almost certainly two-blue setup. Rsoultin, weren't you scumreading nooniansoong a few days back? What happened to that? What about Tumblewood, weren't you calling my townread of Tumblewood stupid? lol gb flipped? + Show Spoiler + it was actually how he reacted to my one post >> kinda flippant but still trying to calm me down. not sure how to explain that and it's probably just pure bias, but whatever i still don't think that your reasons are good enough for the hard townread you've had on tumble all game, but i have to grudgingly admit you're probably right >> just given the game state | ||
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On February 25 2016 05:42 The Shining wrote: Town Rso Trfel Probably noon Maybe Tumble Lynch Bresh or TT. We honestly probably have a third blue, it just makes sense. Watcher is a weak role, especially with Lucifer role and having a scum rb on top of that means there's probably a vet roaming around somewhere. You should probably claim in lylo after I die, especially if you're being lynched. If you are a vet, know that scum wont waste a shot on you and there's no rb so there's only good that can come from you claiming. If I die GL town >> i like that we're seeing the same game but i have to ask, shining...did you get a chance to really look at things or is this all off the cuff? | ||
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On February 25 2016 05:56 The Shining wrote: I've been keeping up with the entire game, I've just been slammed by work and school and not being allowed to use my phone at work anymore. Why's it matter? cause i wanted to know how much weight to put on it, given your late game reads are usually very good lol >< thanks for indulging me | ||
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On February 25 2016 05:57 Trfel wrote: The game state? What do you mean? Anyway, here's one example of the kind of thing that makes me think that Tictock is scum. Tinfoil post saying he wants to lynch Tumblewood, @4:36 EST [lots of commenting] [more commenting] [some reads but nothing pointed] Voting for who he thought was scum last night (Tumblewood), @22:02 EST So, a bit over 17 hours later, after a ton of commenting on things, he votes for the same person as he thought before, for the exact same reasons? Things to check: 1. How much did Tictock push Tumblewood relative to the wagon on GlowingBear? Did he throw out a read and not talk about it much while the GlowingBear wagon wasn't there, or was this after the GlowingBear wagon was already going? If the former, it's suspicious how his activity with regards to this push increased later. 2. Why didn't Tumblewood push any of the other lynches as much as he did the Tumblewood wagon? He seemed to be making a fuss over this, which I definitely don't remember him making Day 1 (would have thought he'd want to lynch sicklucker) or Day 3 (not lynching scott, lynching Tumble isntead). It's a bit hard for me to tell if he actually was trying to defend scott or not, but maybe comparing his push on Tumble D2 and the defense of scott D3 shows something. nh, just that it's hard for me to see tumble with either of the other two? shitty association, i know ^^ i feel his thought process on his reads are direct and fairly clean but it's just so minimal and in some cases pretty surface level that i have a hard time understanding a strong townread on him | ||
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anyway, i'm gonna finish up the schoolwork i need to have done for tomorrow today could actually be quite fun if we lynch ^^ -bounces- | ||
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i cant decide whether i should lynch tt for trolling in mylo or give him town-points for going after someone who is never going to be lynched today (prob ever)...though "going after" is a bit of an overstatement in this case no town points then! + Show Spoiler + if he isn't trolling i have no clue what that is supposed to be o.0 bueno, noon, nh is a bit of a place-holder? like a grunt >> i do weird things and write onomatopoeias cause habit. sorry about the confusion do you not have a preference as to lynch order, noon? | ||
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also, if you don't actually townread tumble, what is your real read on noon? like, i know that townies can get tunneled on a read, but you've been pushing tumble for several day phases now with no success or even much interest from the rest of us...i fail to understand why you're not trying harder to convince us or looking for the third scum if you don't think you can get tumble lynched -_- | ||
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On February 25 2016 21:18 nooniansoong wrote: I'd like to lynch bresh first I think but I don't feel really strong about it. A no lynch is theoretically a good idea but I'm with you in that i don't want to drag this out,even though doing so might be pro town, lol >< to be fair, noon, if i didn't disappear all day on tuesdays and thursdays which could mean an absent rsoul in lylo assuming we lynch scum and i'm not nk'd, i prob would be fine with it i'm a bit on the fence...like 100% if TT were just gonna drop that shit and move on he'd be the lynch today cause that looks a lot like scum giving up and maybe attempting a last-minute WIFOMy why would scum do something this scummy could be town! reaction from us idk may still lynch TT, but at least he's here to poke at. where the hell is bresh in mylo? @.@ like i know he's low activity, but this is getting to be ridiculous and i have a hard time seeing a town bresh sitting around with a thumb up his ass here if he's in danger of being mislynched | ||
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On February 25 2016 22:22 nooniansoong wrote: nnnnnhhhhhhhehhh...You bring up a point about how it looks townie that TT is pushing me, just becaue I'm an unlikely lynch. Who else is he going to push though? The obvious answer is bresh/tumble, but he's already townread bresh and scumread me earlier, so I think to keep his reads consistent he has to push kush/tumble. I would expect a town TT to think, "wait a minute. My read on breshke is not based on very strong evidence. I need to reasses it since kush is looking pretty townie and everyone else is townreading him." nah, i def agree his reads are super static lol >< should prob look up whether TT tends to tunnel or not just to be sure, but that's one of the biggest problems I've seen | ||
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On February 25 2016 23:23 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: then why are you basing your sorta townread of him on it.. ?? not sure where you get sorta townread from my post? translated into short it basically read: i saw something that might make tt town nvm disregard -shrugs- but maybe it'll help to explain where my head was at regardless...if tt is scum he basically has two options here...to give up or try to wriggle out of a lynch if he gives up you can expect him to: (1) not post much, (2) buss for disassociation and/or (3) "push" a clear town to not give information a trying tt scum would: (1) try to find a counter-lynch <- that was what i was thinking when i saw the post, and his townreading the easier of his two scumreads to lynch and then pursuing you, noon, is not a winning strat for getting someone other than himself lynched. it might get him townread, possibly, but who knows? as i thought it through while typing, though, his lack of explanation and no follow-through as of the time i posted made me consider that it wasn't a strong town indication after all cause he could just be giving up lol >< i don't know if that makes any sense at all? it does in my head! \o/ | ||
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On February 26 2016 04:32 Tictock wrote: Rsoul can you tell me, in a couple of sentences why you townread Tumble? I have a hard time finding stuff in your filter. PoE truffle/noon town...though i guess i can take another look at truffle even though i've never actually been fooled by him when he was scum lol >< can't hurt (re: noon i just don't care; if there's good reason to think he'd hard-buss i'll look into it after the second scum flips and probably not before cause it's tinfoily) and just this thing where almost every time i see something i don't understand from him, either presently or in review, when i look back through his filter the thought process and logic is there and easy for me to understand :/ + Show Spoiler + then this really bad association thing where if you or bresh were scum with tumble you've been bussing him all game 'cause why? actually, i think it's possible for bresh to be doing that just cause he's so absent i guess @.@ i mean tbh tt i really don't even remember your points on tumble, they made so little impact should prob go find them also, as an aside, i'm getting twitchy about bresh :/ he was/is in two games and hasn't/hadn't posted since his last post here which makes me think something came up and his absence isn't related to his alignment at all | ||
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that would make me randomly proud and sad at the same time lol >< like either this game is really super fucking easy and we're all over-analyzing everything and wifoming our way into stupid, or noon and/or truffle are playing kick-ass scum games | ||
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that comes from looking through his scum game to see if he had static reads or not? <- need clarification lol >< tbf tt's scumread on you makes a fair amount of sense tch the problem with tumble being scum is then i'm living in a world where scum is bussing each other to oblivion OR i'm misreading truffle >< fuck sidenote: tt pushing tumble is totally what he has to do if he's scum, though ^^ | ||
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On February 26 2016 13:49 Trfel wrote: I'm not scum I'm currently thinking that it's Tictock and then one of Breshke/nooniansoong, I guess. Heavily leaning towards Breshke over nooniansoong, but I haven't closely looks at either of them. I could just be completely missing the mark, though, help? well, frankly, i think we just need to read breshke's filter and decide once and for all if he's scum or not lol >< we kinda have to assume that he may not come back and we'll be playing with an inactive ??? next day phase, too, regardless of how this one goes (and i have to say that i completely understand why noon's getting freaked out that you won't read a filter that short, even if you are busy) | ||
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On February 26 2016 13:52 Trfel wrote: So why is it not Tictock/Breshke? They're not bussing each other? Am I misreading? tt/bresh is what my gut tells me? i'm trying to be open to the idea that i could be wrong on someone cause that kinda feels too easy and i know it's partially based on PoE/assumptions that there is no needless scum bussing | ||
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On February 26 2016 13:54 Trfel wrote: Okay, so my paranoia check on Tumblewood showed that Tumblewood's scumread on Breshke is primarily based on Breshke's lack of activity lately. Which is something that has been discussed in the time of Tumblewood's read change. It makes sense, even if it doesn't feel quite right to me? Meh. Not going to worry about it for now. the real question is does anyone see a scumteam without breshke in it? lol >< that and i suppose we can discuss a no-lynch i'm not in favor for: - personal reasons...won't be able to be active after the weekend (<-may not be relevant) - it doesn't give us another mislynch - 3v2 mylo means literally every town has to be voting scum i mean, if y'all want to anyway, go ahead lol >< i prob won't actually be alive by the time school starts kicking my butt again, assuming the game is even still going ^^ | ||
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On February 26 2016 13:59 Trfel wrote: I mean, Palmar said that Breshke is mafia. If we don't lynch Breshke and he wins, Palmar gets to taunt us forever. Is that really what we want? Seriously though, Breshke's filter may "only" be six pages, but that takes a while to go through I'll see how far I get.Anyway, I guess you don't like my non-association, independent reasons for Tictock being mafia? nh, my problem with tictock is the scattered filter, and it's an overall sense of things rather than anything particular, though i could find examples if you wanted like...i understood your case to be basically that you didn't feel he really pushed hard for the tumble lynch when he was townreading scott? | ||
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On February 26 2016 14:03 Trfel wrote: I mean, you know I've been commenting about Breshke's questions not being as meaningful or having as much direction as I would have expected, and no one's cared about it (ironically, no one but Breshke)? The only question is, is it important I kinda think that the "how insightful are his questions" read on Breshke isn't very good after all. But I'm not sure what to use instead. How much does Breshke push things when he's town? How involved is he with the lynch?lol >< well i think the fact that deadline is before any normal human being in australia in their right mind would be up might have some bearing on his lack of "presence" though generally insightfulness is how i read bresh >> i can't say that i'm always right, though, given noir @.@ insightfulness is kinda subjective like i feel in the beginning he was more like that, but even later during d1 that started falling off while he was still actively posting, and that's what made me reconsider | ||
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On February 26 2016 14:06 Trfel wrote: I don't have a case, it's more of a conclusion reached from continued discussion. The biggest reason I think he is mafia is because his involvement has fit mafia motivations. When all that's needed is activity, he's here and commenting, but not pushing. When he's needed to push things, he's pushing. When he's not, he's sidelines. All from a mafia perspective, not a town perspective. Most things I've brought up are just small examples of this at different times. tch this gets into narrative territory :/ i'm assuming you at least tried to consider it from both sides when you went through his filter? you and i make reads very differently lol >< for instance, i see you commenting on his pushing tumble during the scott lynch and how he didn't really push it and honestly i can see town sticking to his guns there but being demotivated when people basically haven't listened to him for a week? so i'm not really sure how strong that actually is what's the scum motivation for townreading scott there and not really pushing tumble, assuming tumble is town as you say? why not just go with the flow? | ||
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On February 26 2016 14:18 Trfel wrote: Oh yeah, I meant to ask you about Breshke. When he's town, does he say "I could be willing to lynch this guy because he's bad/useless/unreadable/whatever"? I remember him saying this as mafia, but I don't feel like Breshke as town is the kind of player to do this? i don't know? lol >< i don't remember him doing it, but i can honestly say that it's the sort of thing that i wouldn't remember anyway | ||
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as for the tt thing, the way he's handling today i've already pointed out is exactly what a scum tt has to do here lol >< right down to the opening the door on breshke bit i just don't really see your particular point...i'm assuming it's more an overall thing that i'm missing, though, cause the specific example alone is pretty meh | ||
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lol >< you know why i have trouble with this game? in tropical i dropped my vote on town when we were lynching scum and didn't really push it precisely because i knew what it would look like when whatsisface flipped scum, and stupid lex went in there and got the shenannies rolling on him ruining my dastardly plans >< but at the same time i really don't know if breshke is capable of the same. like, when i play mafia i don't really care that much what i look like cause i know i have a fair chance of talking myself out of lynches and playing against wincon often gets people wifoming you town :/ so you ask me and i go "well, i..." then "well, bresh isn't me..." i think i'd prefer to not go into the wifom of would he or wouldn't he and instead just focus on what he actually did/didn't do, personally and i'm rambling now cause it's late and they just ushered us all out to stand in the cold cause some idiot tried to smoke in here again ^^ | ||
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what i'm trying to say is i'd rather focus on why players did what they did rather than would they or wouldn't they as scum, because not only do we not have the whole picture, but both alignments are usually capable of anything in a vacuum | ||
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i've got a meeting tomorrow so i'll be gone until maybe...90 mins? 2 hours if i'm lucky? before EoD i think i'm gonna drop my vote on no-lynch actually just in case so y'all aren't forced to lynch if that's what y'all want to do. i can't imagine i'll miss deadline lol >< but yeah | ||
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the tinfoil's great and all and i'll indulge it if i have the time :/ but really this probably is just as simple as it seems | ||
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not the least of which because it would be going the exact same way if tt/bresh are the scum team :/ -twitches- anyone here? | ||
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On February 27 2016 06:33 nooniansoong wrote: IM NOT BEING LAZY IM BUSY. STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO. -me pretending to be trfel lol >< -kicks- evil one leaving me here to sweat by myself :/ | ||
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tumble: least active EoD (complaint) <- wasn't here noon: breshke afk (excuse) <- also wasn't here -twitches- at least truffle was open about having to leave -throws shoes at everyone- nooooon On February 26 2016 21:55 nooniansoong wrote: Today I'm going to look at tumble more. On the one hand bresh is afk and somewhat of a wild card, on the other hand nothing in his filter looks town. He's got mechanics discussion which is nai. And his one case on shape doesn't make sense. ^ whatever happened to this? | ||
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On February 28 2016 01:09 nooniansoong wrote: Rsoul how about you do something yourself instead of complaining about everyone else :p Thoughts on breshke vs tumble (vs me maybe)? ye lol i'm doing papers and reading for class next week ^^ and yes i do have thoughts on you but i'm prioritizing so pfffft but since you so kindly asked, talk to me about tictock...you've been contradictory about whether you actually thought he could be town or were just toying with him | ||
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On February 28 2016 04:45 nooniansoong wrote: What happened was I got paranoid for a second then I was like nahhh but I decided to not say anythibg why? | ||
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On February 28 2016 05:55 nooniansoong wrote: Why what? I decided to not say anything to see how people would react. I,changed my mind and unchanged it from,considering filters. nh, okay lol is that why your tumble read changed, or...? | ||
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On February 28 2016 05:58 nooniansoong wrote: Why tumble read didn't really change. Weak townread. didn't you say you thought a tumble/tt team was more likely? or am i making that up? | ||
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Town Truffle - duh...had the opportunity to close the door on TT and didn't, really don't think i need to explain this one Prob Town Noon* - still seems town but i could see his play last phase as being an attempt to find another lynch, given he said it was paranoia AFTER all the rest of us still scumread TT Townish Tumble - still think he's pretty straight-forward with his reads Pref lynch Bresh - afk is nai, but read development questionable (ojala he's really afk and just gets modkilled for an insta-win! \o/) | ||
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i mean i do think bresh is the most likely scum here, but all this auto-lynching stuff gives me the heebie jeebies. tumble, dude, what does that post really mean? i guess the better way to put it is...what do you get out of it, in the sense that what were you expecting to find to indicate a scum mate with TT? | ||
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On February 28 2016 13:41 Tumblewood wrote: Well, you know how sometimes people make association reads based on how a flipped scum acted toward suspects? I thought there would be something that TT did that could give me insight, but then I gave up and quit because I kept finding nothing in TT's filter (that was also 13 pages) to indicate the alignments of Trfel, Breshke, or you. well...yeah, i've gone through it, too, and the most i really got from it is he seemed to not really know what to do with gb lol >< which at least suggests that you're town? cause like...gb is a much easier buss than you would be i'd think, and it would be weird for his awkwardness with one scum mate to not be shared with the other. so there's that | ||
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On February 29 2016 14:25 Trfel wrote: Yeah, I doubt I will have time to do anything before the lynch. However, I am not going to end up being modkilled (talked to some comp sci person and got a fancy internet thing set up) and I would prefer to no-lynch if that is okay with everyone? ##vote no lynch I don't like how Breshke has vanished completely, I'm not confident that this is mafia indicative for him. I really wish he could be here to answer questions, I feel that it would help a lot. The only concern is, if we no-lynch and Breshke gets modkilled and he's town, we lose, right? But that's basically the same as if we lynched him, which is the alternative anyway, so I don't think this matters? honestly, truffle, i think you're town lol >< and if bresh gets modkilled and is town then yes...pretty sure that means we lose do you honestly think this will help? like, either bresh will come back and can answer questions or he won't and the game's already decided one way or another...if you think either tumble or myself could be scum, then maybe you should just look into that? | ||
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On February 29 2016 16:24 Trfel wrote: I think it's possible that I'm wrong? I'm really good at being wrong? I mean, I kinda want to look at things again because regardless of who is mafia, it's a very winnable game. I just feel bad not doing so I get that it drags out the game and is super boring and makes the obs QT really mad if it actually is just Breshke (which I still think is really likely), but we all know it's technically the correct play?Like, I don't need to no-lynch, but I feel really guilty not doing so, if that makes sense? Because then it's very much my fault if we lose. + Show Spoiler + Also, I kind of wonder if Breshke is mafia, how was there a night kill? It didn't seem like Breshke was present at all, so was the kill randomized, or did he submit a kill and not actually post anything (feels out of character)? Or is he actually town? + Show Spoiler + given damdy said kills are mandatory and the hosts just discussed RNGing the lynch with HTS's last game if scum doesn't submit a kill? not sure that the nk says anything one way or another lol >< well i mean, technically we can no lynch but it's not fundamentally different? then you know assuming bresh doesn't get modkilled you or i get shot lol >< and i personally can't play next day phase cause EoD falls on a thursday...which is really awful in lylo so no i don't really want to no-lynch, especially when bresh is still afk...i could see the point if he were here and we wanted the extra time -shrugs- | ||
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a no-lynch is tantamount to a concession :/ i am making sense, right? | ||
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On March 01 2016 00:31 Tumblewood wrote: What I gather is that the best way to do this is to lynch someone (rsoul?) and let Breshke get modkilled. From my perspective, that's a 90%ish chance we hit mafia. lol >< no, the best way to do this is to lynch scum. that's the only thing that guarantees we win this today. there have been last minute scum votes in the past | ||
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On March 01 2016 00:31 Trfel wrote: Like, rsoultin, I think that you're town because of having a much larger post count than necessary to survive early on. And for many of those posts like "I'll vote for Palmar but if you're wrong, you'll have to play a game with Lex and I", which don't feel like they're part of a natural town mindset. But it's also quite possible that this is completely incorrect, and this isn't really a possibility that I've looked into yet well, i mean, i can answer any questions you have, but i'm not scum @.@ and i'm still not sure why you'd ever be more sure of tumble than me this game but whatevs...i guess it's a backhanded complement i don't really think tumble is scum here anyway...like, it's possible, but just not likely and if you're scum i'll eat my hat | ||
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On March 01 2016 03:38 Trfel wrote: I'm not so good at reading more experienced players, I think I'm better at reading newer players? And you're an enigma anyway. And I don't have time. So that's that XD Breshke, please be scum. lol >< well i'm pretty sure that if you're right on tumble we're set...and i can't even blame you if you're wrong on tumble cause i'd still lynch breshke over him anyway ^^ | ||
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he'd have made me break my no fake claim rule in that case lol >< | ||
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sorry, dude, but i actually think it's pretty bad for someone to get auto townread based on something like AoE cause they just can't do it as scum, and i never want that to be the reason people townread me again...that was part of why i did it this time so people can't "meta" me town when i get frustrated, which i do frequently lol >< ^ watch this bite me in the ass | ||
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edit: okay, you're forgiven lol | ||
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On March 01 2016 07:11 Tictock wrote: Good job convincing them not to no-lynch Rsoul. Knew you would pull it through for us. Apparently my townreads as scum are lethal... Kush played really well this game his scumreads were spot on for most of the game. Only mistake made was townreading Rsoul for the GB lynch. Also btw, my tarot was 100% legit... expect I pulled cards for everyone D1. I was originally going to share them with the whole game but I decided not too as the cards I drew for Rsoul and GB linked really well with their roles and I didn't want to throw that much spin on the interpretation. I even drew Death for Breshke... which hopefully doesn't indicate anything in regards to his RL situation. I'd be willing to share the cards I drew for people and their supposed meaning as well as my interpretation if people would like. I know it's a weird thing to do for Mafia but I've toyed around with Tarot for years and it's always interesting for me to use it for stuff like this. if you'd like ^^ i'm curious | ||
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and all the town did a pretty good job of looking town yeah maybe y'all should have caught me based on meta reasons, idk, but honestly i've noticed that in general i get townread more as scum, prob cause i'm less obnoxious or something not sure like maybe i'm biased rit, jat, but i do think that even though i don't completely emulate my town game, this sort of play still manages to work for me. i'm not good with cases. some of my best games i've been completely ignored in, one where i even got the whole scum team and cased them all without a single flip and was still ignored like...you say "scum could have led town!" but the truth is i think noon and truffle in particular played a kick-ass town game between getting townread and pushing who they needed to push, and both can be very stubborn. my play worked for this particular town -shrugs- i can lead town but it does depend on who is actually playing, too lol | ||
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On March 01 2016 09:58 sicklucker wrote: gg tho ~.~ I thought you had her when i stoped reading. only one i was sure of really. Didnt think it was ticktock at the time lol >< you were the only one who seemed to really think i was scum sl ^^ truffle did tinfoil me scum for a bit, but it didn't last. largely because gb did a great job with his disassociation | ||
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-amused- i didn't want to. that was gb i actually had a blue read on bresh and wanted them to rb/nk him totally the right move but it prob would have lost us the game lol >< the irony | ||
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On March 01 2016 10:17 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: btw rsoul you are super lucky that scott is never playing with you again. lol >< i was sad when i read that, even if i think he's scumread me in literally every game i've ever played cause "spam" ^^ | ||
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On March 01 2016 10:22 sicklucker wrote: does not really sound like breske that and thats like a 3 gameban lol nah lex and i are worried about him too :/ | ||
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On March 01 2016 10:26 justanothertownie wrote: I had a look at this game from time to time during the last days and you blatantly didn't care about what happened at all. If you are town you care. lol >< you're not wrong? i actually knowingly play different from my town game cause it works...i also don't try to generate discussion much as scum when town isn't doing it themselves cause it's to my advantage for them to be that complacent -shrugs- if you were in the game i prob would not have played the same...or maybe i would have cause you'd prob be dead by the time it mattered xP | ||
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On March 01 2016 10:28 sicklucker wrote: I think you did a good job covering it up. but your town game is just so weird that its probably impossible to immulate well as scum lol yeah >< this is very true. i can get some tonal things right and amp up the posting until people are drowning in filter, but the actual scum-hunting i can't emulate very well tbf though...people insist on scumreading me when i'm town cause i'm "not doing anything rsoul couldn't do as scum" so somehow there's a disconnect between my perception and everyone else's | ||
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thanks for putting it up! tbh i'm not really into fortune-telling or things like that, but i can definitely see how it might help you know your own mind since you get out what you put in | ||
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i said if sl were anything he was vet...the attempt to draw a shot = blatantly obv <3s gb he was so afraid you had an investigative role and might check him sl lol | ||
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On March 03 2016 00:25 marvellosity wrote: kinda just assumed one of rsoul/trfel was mafia when kush died. hadn't really read anything to know anything more, mind you. nh tbh idk that it was actually that bad a kill given the three of us had led town all game and were about equally townread, and both truffle and i didn't have much time during the week whereas kush did but then my perception of kush's play may have been skewed just cause i knew he was playing very well lol >< (that and tbh even if kush had a harder townread on me than truffle, i get the feeling that if he ever started scumreading me i'd have a much harder time talking him out of it than i would trfel) -shrugs- i don't really play the game to fool the people not in it | ||
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On March 03 2016 09:35 Shapelog wrote: Should of committed to saying that was a scum slip. Should of so much..... lol it wasn't ^^ gb was drunk with his drama friends...he's always hitting on the pretty girls when he's drunk | ||
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