EPTActually this begs the question, Tumble did you make those notes only after deadline?
I had been under the impression you were making them all day, but now see there wasn't one for Palmar.
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
Actually this begs the question, Tumble did you make those notes only after deadline? I had been under the impression you were making them all day, but now see there wasn't one for Palmar. | ||
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Tictock
United States6051 Posts
@ Kush + Show Spoiler + On February 24 2016 11:03 Tictock wrote: I actually did manage to read your filter while at work over the past day or so and didn't find hardly anything behind your reads. What you told me here was actually one of the more in-depth reads I find in your filter. I'm wondering if you can finally explain why you've been scumreading me all game, but actually I'm most interested in what caused you to flip that read here. Your filter is full of reads you'll explain later and you mostly just seem to be running PoE as far as I can tell. On February 24 2016 11:35 Tictock wrote: Ok, but can you also tell me about why you suggested a shot on Scott then changed to GB? Again, in particular what caused you to TR Scott earlier, then what caused you to drop it? I'd also really like to know why you decided to pressure Shape to claim D1. You seemed pretty aggressive about it, but you were only voting him for a joke? My VCA Post Here And @ Tumble: + Show Spoiler + On February 24 2016 15:16 Tictock wrote: You are either very confused or are lying out your ass right here. I also can't help but notice that you have a NULL read on me at this point? It's so weird to me that I've been pushing you all game and you keep saying I'm kinda towny... If you are town you should be fucking concerned about my alignment and trying to convince me that I'm wrong or lynch me respectively. On February 24 2016 15:27 Tictock wrote: Oh I guess he did post that after Palmar had flipped (but before Eden!?!) Actually this begs the question, Tumble did you make those notes only after deadline? I had been under the impression you were making them all day, but now see there wasn't one for Palmar. Oh and @ Breshke What gives? On February 24 2016 11:27 Breshke wrote: Could people please tell me what they are currently reading me as On February 24 2016 12:08 Breshke wrote: Does anyone know if we can no lynch? You are kinda just floating in the thread here but not doing anything. | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
On February 24 2016 15:16 Tictock wrote: You are either very confused or are lying out your ass right here. I also can't help but notice that you have a NULL read on me at this point? It's so weird to me that I've been pushing you all game and you keep saying I'm kinda towny... If you are town you should be fucking concerned about my alignment and trying to convince me that I'm wrong or lynch me respectively. There are two kinds of people in the game: town, and scum. [citation needed] If you are town, you could see me as scummy for my actions in this game. If you are scum, you could be trying to push a mislynch on me. I do not know which of those two is correct. You and Breshke could be pushing for a final mislynch on me, or one or both of you could be town. I cannot tell which is true, hence the null read. On February 24 2016 15:27 Tictock wrote: Oh I guess he did post that after Palmar had flipped (but before Eden!?!) Actually this begs the question, Tumble did you make those notes only after deadline? I had been under the impression you were making them all day, but now see there wasn't one for Palmar. After deadline, I was really confused what to think on everyone because I didn't know where everyone stood, so I sorted it on paper. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
I know you have talked about it all over your filter can we go through your kush scum-read like point by point. He is the person i think is most likely town at the moment. His general game has been great and rsoul made a good point about him and GB having to decide to bus straight away. On February 22 2016 10:48 nooniansoong wrote: ticktock are you named after kesha? also lol theshining remember when you used your vig against eden instead of scott...genius vig shot right there. I also really like this post. It was so out of the blue feel like it would be a weird thing for scum to post. On top of that he was taunting the confirmed town. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
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nnn_thekushmountains
1501 Posts
On February 24 2016 11:03 Tictock wrote: I actually did manage to read your filter while at work over the past day or so and didn't find hardly anything behind your reads. What you told me here was actually one of the more in-depth reads I find in your filter. I'm wondering if you can finally explain why you've been scumreading me all game, but actually I'm most interested in what caused you to flip that read here. Your filter is full of reads you'll explain later and you mostly just seem to be running PoE as far as I can tell. On February 24 2016 11:35 Tictock wrote: Ok, but can you also tell me about why you suggested a shot on Scott then changed to GB? Again, in particular what caused you to TR Scott earlier, then what caused you to drop it? I'd also really like to know why you decided to pressure Shape to claim D1. You seemed pretty aggressive about it, but you were only voting him for a joke? TT I was scumreading you because of associations + POE. You didn't want to lynch scott, and I was super sure scott was scum. I know that's terrible because scott hadn't even flipped but yeah. About that flip: I'm not sure exactly why I townread you for a little bit there. I was getting town feels from some of your posts around that time. Then sometime later I looked at all your posts and decided there wasn't enough there to town you unlike everyone else in my PoE and I started scumming you again. About my vig suggestion: I was on the fence. I thought they were both good shots. I changed my mind and decided that I'd shoot GB because I was scumreading him more at the moment I think? My dumb reason for townreading scott back then was this: On February 17 2016 04:32 scott31337 wrote: Because he's got his townie care free attitude - calling multiple mafia reads too many scumreads and the below- Which is true.  the last part, "which is true" It's hard to explain why I thought this was townie, which is why I said it was dumb. He was needling me in a laid back comfortable way maybe? | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On February 24 2016 22:45 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: TT I was scumreading you because of associations + POE. You didn't want to lynch scott, and I was super sure scott was scum. I know that's terrible because scott hadn't even flipped but yeah. About that flip: I'm not sure exactly why I townread you for a little bit there. I was getting town feels from some of your posts around that time. Then sometime later I looked at all your posts and decided there wasn't enough there to town you unlike everyone else in my PoE and I started scumming you again. About my vig suggestion: I was on the fence. I thought they were both good shots. I changed my mind and decided that I'd shoot GB because I was scumreading him more at the moment I think? My dumb reason for townreading scott back then was this: the last part, "which is true" It's hard to explain why I thought this was townie, which is why I said it was dumb. He was needling me in a laid back comfortable way maybe? | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
 Bad Trfel. Means I have to do it again On the bright side, hopefully I can do a proper job this time. Homework first though...Anyway, Tumblewood, thanks for the response. One more question, you say that my reads are well-reasoned, but earlier you were criticizing my reads (like my Palmar read and my Eden read)? What changed? | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
So when you went into that tinfoil post, before it you were thinking that scott31337 was town because the Day 1 votes suggested Town vs Town. Then you decided that making this conclusion was bad before you read more carefully, right? So, I'm assuming that by the end of the tinfoil post, you'd read everything? So, what was your conclusion about scott31337's alignment, and why? And how and why did your previous read on the Day 1 lynch being town vs town change? | ||
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Damdred
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On February 25 2016 03:43 Damdred wrote: <3town may no lynch, scum must shoot no happy endings here | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
d1, did you have any scumreads other than sl who i'm missing? | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 25 2016 05:16 Trfel wrote: Hey rsoultin, who is mafia? lol >< fuck if i know i'm pretty confident you and noon are town (barring some paranoia on the part of noon that is probably just silly) i actually think tt/bresh kinda have a hard time seeing either of them with tumble lol >< and tumble's fliter is really pretty direct like...it's kinda awful cause it's PoE, but honestly i went through breshke's filter again and the reasons i townread him (namely seeing a lot of the same things in things like shape's posts and sl's diary entries) are still there, but i'm not sure if i should have given them the weight i did. disregarding that, he's been extremely peripheral all game :/ as for tt, it's just a lot of swinginess that i can't really follow well and probably a bit of my natural inclination to really distrust anyone i have to ping half-a-dozen times to get an answer out of @.@ | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On February 25 2016 05:24 rsoultin wrote: I wonder if the fact that we agree means that we're right or that we're wrong?lol >< fuck if i know i'm pretty confident you and noon are town (barring some paranoia on the part of noon that is probably just silly) i actually think tt/bresh kinda have a hard time seeing either of them with tumble lol >< and tumble's fliter is really pretty direct like...it's kinda awful cause it's PoE, but honestly i went through breshke's filter again and the reasons i townread him (namely seeing a lot of the same things in things like shape's posts and sl's diary entries) are still there, but i'm not sure if i should have given them the weight i did. disregarding that, he's been extremely peripheral all game :/ as for tt, it's just a lot of swinginess that i can't really follow well and probably a bit of my natural inclination to really distrust anyone i have to ping half-a-dozen times to get an answer out of @.@ Or if it means that you're mafia and I'm stupid >< (though the two aren't mutually exclusive) I still feel like Tictock has been a reactive player and he hasn't been involved. I mean, I feel like he's been interactive but not involved, if that makes sense? And I don't like that at all. It's not related to his cases, but rather I don't feel like he's been pushing things... But the mafia!Breshke wouldn't save town!Palmar thing makes a lot of sense, though, right? Did Breskhe commit to it before it looked like scott vs Palmar? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 25 2016 05:28 Trfel wrote: I wonder if the fact that we agree means that we're right or that we're wrong? Or if it means that you're mafia and I'm stupid >< (though the two aren't mutually exclusive) I still feel like Tictock has been a reactive player and he hasn't been involved. I mean, I feel like he's been interactive but not involved, if that makes sense? And I don't like that at all. It's not related to his cases, but rather I don't feel like he's been pushing things... But the mafia!Breshke wouldn't save town!Palmar thing makes a lot of sense, though, right? Did Breskhe commit to it before it looked like scott vs Palmar? ummmm breshke committed to it when Palmar was at 3 GB was at 2 and...shining? i think was at 2? he went to scott with you then lol >< bringing a third wagon to 2 + Show Spoiler + and yes, it probably means it's noon and tumble >> lol you know how great our track record is when we agree \o/ | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On February 18 2016 05:26 Breshke wrote: So, giving Breshke too many townpoints for this isn't really good. If he's mafia, he left himself open to most any lynch. If the scott wagon didn't work out, he could have switched his vote to most anywhere.Who are the valid options? I think trefels post is perfectly justified. Right now my lynch list is shining, GB, scott and palmar. I have not mentioned any of these people before and it is mostly based on activity and how this EoD is turning out. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On February 25 2016 05:33 Trfel wrote: So, giving Breshke too many townpoints for this isn't really good. If he's mafia, he left himself open to most any lynch. If the scott wagon didn't work out, he could have switched his vote to most anywhere. ye that's why i was asking who he was scumreading other than sl, cause i didn't see anyone else...just oh sl looks like he may be blue okay let's list all these guys instead | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Breshke definitely hasn't been bad, he's been good, just not up to his best level as town. Of course this doesn't make him mafia, but I don't feel it's a good reason to townread him for this alone. I do feel that nooniansoong's scumread on GlowingBear is strongly town indicative, but not 100%. There are a few tonal things that make me think he is town, off the top of my head one of them is when he was hoping that scott31337 and GlowingBear aren't mafia together (so that the game wouldn't be too easy), but nowhere near as many as I remembered last game. Maybe he could be mafia here, even if it's unlikely, I'll take a look later (especially with a no-lynch to get extra time). For what it's worth, I think rsoultin is town? But the worth of this read is zero, so yeah. Saving for last. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
Rso Trfel Probably noon Maybe Tumble Lynch Bresh or TT. We honestly probably have a third blue, it just makes sense. Watcher is a weak role, especially with Lucifer role and having a scum rb on top of that means there's probably a vet roaming around somewhere. You should probably claim in lylo after I die, especially if you're being lynched. If you are a vet, know that scum wont waste a shot on you and there's no rb so there's only good that can come from you claiming. If I die GL town | ||
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