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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 23 2016 23:30 GMT
#1681
On February 24 2016 08:24 nooniansoong wrote:
@Trfel what's up with your tumble read? Is it totally based on 1 game's meta?
Not just the meta, also normal scum/mafia traits. Tumblewood's filter feels very open and honest. He feels like a player being direct with his thoughts and approach to the game.

However, I don't like his approach to Day 1 and have one key question to Tumblewood, which will hopefully help me to place the perspective of his Day 1.

@Tumblewood:
Why did you have Palmar as a scum lean in this post?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 24 2016 00:08 GMT
#1682
now i'm thinking breshke + tt/tumble
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 24 2016 00:20 GMT
#1683
kush do you have a reason why tt/tumble couldn't be together?
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 24 2016 00:20 GMT
#1684
Breshke
-absent d2. afk voted scott. He didn't engage anyone on lynching gb.
-no posts that show he is thinking about the game
there's this case on tumble but i find it superficial
On February 18 2016 15:06 Breshke wrote:
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On February 18 2016 14:36 rsoultin wrote:
On February 18 2016 13:47 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, what? You changed your GlowingBear read?

Don't get this wrong, you know I'll actually listen to you this time...

Also, I didn't change my read on Tumblewood based on the pictures.

Why do GlowingBear and Tumblewood being town make you think that scott31337 is town? I don't get it.


lol >< like anyone ever listens to me on GB...although tbf i talk myself out of the right reads on him so maybe that's sometimes okay

eh this just reminds me of drams a bit and even though his lackluster posting made me fine with lynching him (on top of being absent) he became more reactive at EoD which is what i associate with his townplay more + trolling lol ><

nh, regarding scott...it's hard to explain really but i'll try

like if he's scum we should see scum either bussing him for the cred, piling on palmar or at the very least resisting lynching him. GB and tumble both fall into that piling on palmar or resisting lynching him cat...like he flips scum the association is strong there

but i'm fairly secure in my shape and eden townreads and the scott wagon looks pretty pristine disregarding sl

if i'm right on tumble it doesn't make a lot of sense that scum is both bussing and voting palmar

So he doesn't like how trefel just settles on a lynch saying there is a bunch of valid options but he isnt

a vote spread with my possible scum all over the place suggests to me that both are town or scum is really disorganized, which i suppose is possible with a mostly afk scum team, but given how the game state i kinda doubt that


I think the bolded is a bit messed up?

I agree with the essence of this post that the way EoD went down makes me feel that scott is probably town but thats also because I have a hankering that SL is scum but won't be discussing that until tomorrow

I also still really have a problem with these posts.
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On February 18 2016 05:24 Tumblewood wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:18 Trfel wrote:
Oh yeah, scott31337's in the game.

Maybe just lynch him?

This feels scummy to me... Town doesn't just settle for a lynch like that, especially when there are other valid options.


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On February 18 2016 05:30 Tumblewood wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:26 Breshke wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:24 Tumblewood wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:18 Trfel wrote:
Oh yeah, scott31337's in the game.

Maybe just lynch him?

This feels scummy to me... Town doesn't just settle for a lynch like that, especially when there are other valid options.


Who are the valid options? I think trefels post is perfectly justified. Right now my lynch list is shining, GB, scott and palmar. I have not mentioned any of these people before and it is mostly based on activity and how this EoD is turning out.

SL, Shape, gB, shining, Scott, and Palmar are all reasonable lynches; I don't see what makes Scott the better option in Trfel 's mind.


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On February 18 2016 05:56 Tumblewood wrote:
I can't sleep easy if I see any of the other wagons getting lynched over Palmar. ##vote: Palmar


SO the first quote he scums trefel for settling on a lynch claiming there are other valid options yet he isnt voting or pushing anyone at the time.

Then the next two quotes make no sense together as there is no explanation in between the two to explain why palmar suddenly became the better lynch. He basically did what he accused trefel of doing but in my opinion in a far scummier way.

ALSO there is this

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On February 18 2016 05:32 Tumblewood wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:31 Breshke wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:30 rsoultin wrote:
On February 18 2016 04:42 The Shining wrote:
On February 18 2016 04:41 Shapelog wrote:
Do I have to claim or can I wait till I post after my read list?


Don't claim minutes before deadline if you're a role.


actually yeah shining could totally be mafia for encouraging a claim and then disappearing -_-


how is that pro mafia?

Gives mafia information


He says that shining getting shape to claim is pro mafia because it gives them information WHEN HE ASKED HIM TO CLAIM ASWELL.
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On February 18 2016 04:42 Tumblewood wrote:
Claim now




Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 24 2016 00:21 GMT
#1685
or is it just that you think I am most likely scum
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 24 2016 00:27 GMT
#1686
On February 24 2016 09:21 Breshke wrote:
or is it just that you think I am most likely scum

This
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 24 2016 01:04 GMT
#1687
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nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 24 2016 01:10 GMT
#1688
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nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 24 2016 01:13 GMT
#1689
not exactly relevant but shut up
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 24 2016 01:37 GMT
#1690
BRESHKE POST COUNTS SCUM VS TOWN

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Conclusion: This kind of makes him look town...fuck. That Feb 17 with 35+ posts.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 24 2016 01:53 GMT
#1691
What magic are you using for those Kush?

and do you really think that's the best way to guage people's alignments?
I can take that responsibility.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 01:54 GMT
#1692
@Tictock:

1. At the start of the game, you said that you found sicklucker's posts interesting. However, you didn't follow up by asking any questions for him or working on your read on him until the night before the deadline, where you finally looked at his filter. If his play was so interesting, why this delay?

2. What happened to your suspicion of Shapelog on Day 1? This post doesn't show it, despite you showing suspicions of Shapelog not long before.

3. I'm having a lot of trouble understanding the thought process behind your tinfoil post. Before this post, you were thinking that scott31337 was town because of the spread vote count. So, you went into the tinfoil post with the assumption that scott31337 is scum, right? And came out with the conclusion that scott31337, Tumblewood, and nooniansoong is a sensible scum team. So, what I don't get is, why do you go with this assumption and vote for Tumblewood, if you had reason to believe that scott31337 is town and never showed why this is wrong? And why vote for Tumblewood and not scott31337 to begin with?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 01:55 GMT
#1693
On February 24 2016 10:53 Tictock wrote:
What magic are you using for those Kush?

and do you really think that's the best way to guage people's alignments?
Oh hey, nice timing
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 24 2016 02:03 GMT
#1694
I actually did manage to read your filter while at work over the past day or so and didn't find hardly anything behind your reads. What you told me here was actually one of the more in-depth reads I find in your filter.

On February 22 2016 07:53 nooniansoong wrote:
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On February 22 2016 07:32 Tictock wrote:
Actually It would be nice if everyone who is scumreading scott can give me a breif explanation why.


Process of elimination.
Complete lack of content.
Not a single scumread.


I'm wondering if you can finally explain why you've been scumreading me all game,
On February 19 2016 03:31 nooniansoong wrote:
Tt is still mafia though. Nothing townie in his filter. How tinfoil looks takes. I know he likes to tinfoil as scum I think. Opportunistic scum reads which I'll explain later.


but actually I'm most interested in what caused you to flip that read here.

On February 19 2016 12:31 nooniansoong wrote:
I agree tt. I thinking you're town now for reasons I'd rather not communicate (cause it would be hard to gather them)
But I agree ignoring the blue shit is probably the best course.
My take aways from the whole eon affair: Shining is confirmed town, shape probably town, and gbs shenanigans nai


Your filter is full of reads you'll explain later and you mostly just seem to be running PoE as far as I can tell.
I can take that responsibility.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 24 2016 02:22 GMT
#1695
Lol no I don't think thats a good way to judge someone's alignment but I was practicing my programming skills
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 24 2016 02:23 GMT
#1696
I will address your issues With me tomorrow tt.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 24 2016 02:24 GMT
#1697
On February 24 2016 10:54 Trfel wrote:
@Tictock:

1. At the start of the game, you said that you found sicklucker's posts interesting. However, you didn't follow up by asking any questions for him or working on your read on him until the night before the deadline, where you finally looked at his filter. If his play was so interesting, why this delay?

2. What happened to your suspicion of Shapelog on Day 1? This post doesn't show it, despite you showing suspicions of Shapelog not long before.

3. I'm having a lot of trouble understanding the thought process behind your tinfoil post. Before this post, you were thinking that scott31337 was town because of the spread vote count. So, you went into the tinfoil post with the assumption that scott31337 is scum, right? And came out with the conclusion that scott31337, Tumblewood, and nooniansoong is a sensible scum team. So, what I don't get is, why do you go with this assumption and vote for Tumblewood, if you had reason to believe that scott31337 is town and never showed why this is wrong? And why vote for Tumblewood and not scott31337 to begin with?


1) If I recall right I was talking about his opening posts, the dear diary interesting? It was a style of posting I've never seen SL do, so I mentioned it to remind me to check his filter later. It was pg 1 post 2 though? it wasn't worth interrogating him for

2) I townread Shape early on for reacting to your Eden case with almost exactly my thinking. There was other stuff too like how he was messing around with me a little but staying fairly focused. I was guessing from his last scum game that he'd prob run with the chance to talk nonsense and spam, but he didn't.

3) Yea, so basically the first part of that tinfoil (before the silly intermission pic) I was talking out my ass before I'd really caught up with the game. You are correct that I was taking the opposite stance from my initial conclusion that D1 was probably TvT. I realized that it was ofc stupid to do that before actually catching up with the game, so I went back to reread and filled in that post with what I found relevant to how the Shape wagon built and then how the votes went after shape claimed blue.

From that reading I came to my conclusions that Tumble was likely scum based on his voting and his reasons for doing so.

I've avoided making any more tinfoil posts due to how terribly I flowered that one up.

Though BTW, I do tinfoil as scum + Show Spoiler +
... but I also do it as town.
I can take that responsibility.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
February 24 2016 02:27 GMT
#1698
Could people please tell me what they are currently reading me as
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 02:29 GMT
#1699
On February 24 2016 11:27 Breshke wrote:
Could people please tell me what they are currently reading me as
I don't know. I guess I can try to read your filter before the end of the night, will probably save nooniansoong and rsoultin for later (yay procrastination!).

Tictock, thanks a bunch for answering my questions, I'll look through some stuff.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
February 24 2016 02:35 GMT
#1700
On February 24 2016 11:23 nooniansoong wrote:
I will address your issues With me tomorrow tt.


Ok, but can you also tell me about why you suggested a shot on Scott then changed to GB?

On February 18 2016 12:14 nooniansoong wrote:
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On February 18 2016 11:50 The Shining wrote:
On February 18 2016 11:32 nooniansoong wrote:
scumlist
ticktock
GB
scott
breshke
rsoul


Hmmm. Hypothetical. You have a gun. Who do you shoot?

Probably Scott. I'm a believer in shooting inactive people.

Again, in particular what caused you to TR Scott earlier, then what caused you to drop it?
On February 18 2016 20:09 nooniansoong wrote:
Shining ask a dumb question you gonna get a dumb answer.

I actually town read Scott at the time for a dumb reason.
Now my read is somewhere between scummy, dunno, and town.
So I change my imaginary shot to gb.


I'd also really like to know why you decided to pressure Shape to claim D1. You seemed pretty aggressive about it, but you were only voting him for a joke?
I can take that responsibility.
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