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rsoultin
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On February 18 2016 06:27 The Shining wrote: And then my stronger read Tumble voted him. And GB made a point about how votes piled on Palmar. only you voted for tumble long before tumble voted for palmar lol >< bs meter alert both of these things happened AFTER your vote on tumble | ||
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On February 18 2016 06:28 Shapelog wrote: + Show Spoiler [Tumble's Read progession] + On February 17 2016 11:11 Tumblewood wrote: @rsoul : I the only people I have any real insight on are Trfel, Eden (town), Tictock, kush (townlean), you, Shapelog (null), Palmar, SL (scum). The other four have been too absent for my tastes... Breshke has been moderately active, stay tuned for a filter dive. On February 17 2016 11:15 Tumblewood wrote: EBWOP: Palmar as a scum lean because I have little confidence in that read. On February 18 2016 03:42 Tumblewood wrote: No one's acting definitively scummy, so I'm going to POE this vote. The 'Do Not Lynch' List Eden, for putting a lot of effort into finding scum and moving the day along productively. Trfel, for similar reasons. Also, I stand by that mafia would not have gotten into an argument like that earlier in the game. Tictock, for making clear and useful points. The 'Bad Lynch' List Rsoul, for helping in a trolly manner. Palmar, for being overconfident and having huge changes of heart. Kush, but I don't know why. Breshke, for making clear and insightful points, though sparse. The 'Wait And See' List GB, Scott, and The Shining for showing up late. That leaves us SL and... other SL. I keep seeing things in sick's play that are scummy, but then you all assure me that those are just normal things for him. Sick's defense amounts to "don't lynch me because that's a bad idea / I'm an easy townread." Shape has been acting similar to his last game as scum. I had the privilege of being in the scum QT with him, and his gameplan was this: play the "too scummy to be scum" card, and spam the thread (especially with votes) to make it harder to follow. I think both are valid options for a lynch; whoever makes the better case in the next two hours dodges my vote. On February 18 2016 05:30 Tumblewood wrote: SL, Shape, gB, shining, Scott, and Palmar are all reasonable lynches; I don't see what makes Scott the better option in Trfel 's mind. On February 18 2016 05:56 Tumblewood wrote: I can't sleep easy if I see any of the other wagons getting lynched over Palmar. ##vote: Palmar So he scum leans Palmar, puts him in the bad lynch pile, then calls him a reasonable lynch. And then ends up votes for him. SO the real question is....Why did Tumble vote Palmar (with a passion) when he put palmar in the bad lynch list? a good question -_- | ||
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rsoultin
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between GB/shining right now their behavior just doesn't line up with how they voted i think i'm inclined to more or less believe you unless i have a reason to think otherwise bresh/trfel have been and likely always will be town for me unless eden's play has greatly changed i don't see him being scum here, either scott/tumble are kinda up in the air for me (;o; i really don't want tumble to be scum...it would be nice to be right on him) and i'd like them to answer questions yeah i need to reread tho | ||
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the bs about not townreading palmar when you're saying it's a mafia-pushed lynch, and then throwing your vote away | ||
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On February 18 2016 06:50 The Shining wrote: No voting for my stronger read happened before anything else. Even though I didn't think Palmar wasn't that bad of a lynch, he wasn't my preferred lynch. When I considered possibly switching, Tumble voted and GB made the point he made. It's pretty simple. hn...okay, could be don't leave the area lol >< | ||
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On February 18 2016 06:53 GlowingBear wrote: I wasn't townreading Palmar, then suddenly his wagon piled on and I thought could be Mafia driven, so I tried to lynch Kush I really don't know how to explain. Like, I thought he was an okay lynch but at the same time his wagon gaining torque felt off? tch yeah i think it just comes down to whether or not i believe that you feel strongly enough about the palmar wagon to ALL CAPS yet still don't feel strongly enough to vote the counterwagon sidelining all this and getting something to eat | ||
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Town breshke trfel shape (should put him higher but ye...see no reason to disbelieve him att) eden Townlean tumbler (going w/ first instinct though honestly the read changes for notes i don't quite get o.0) gb (the trollery mostly, will review later) from no fucking clue to scummy scott (tbh the sense that gb and tumbler are town makes me think scott could be, too, but i have no reasons to townread him based on his own play) sl (had him kinda townie for reasons but never am sure on him anyway...eod+other stuff) TT (still hasn't answered my questions unless i missed it @.@ plus the switch to palmar) noon (meh, timing on the lynch super convenient; if scott is town, doubly so) shining (need to review, gut said scum but his answers weren't horribad) ye -_- sorry i thought i'd get to it sooner | ||
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On February 18 2016 13:47 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, what? You changed your GlowingBear read? Don't get this wrong, you know I'll actually listen to you this time... Also, I didn't change my read on Tumblewood based on the pictures. Why do GlowingBear and Tumblewood being town make you think that scott31337 is town? I don't get it. lol >< like anyone ever listens to me on GB...although tbf i talk myself out of the right reads on him so maybe that's sometimes okay eh this just reminds me of drams a bit and even though his lackluster posting made me fine with lynching him (on top of being absent) he became more reactive at EoD which is what i associate with his townplay more + trolling lol >< nh, regarding scott...it's hard to explain really but i'll try like if he's scum we should see scum either bussing him for the cred, piling on palmar or at the very least resisting lynching him. GB and tumble both fall into that piling on palmar or resisting lynching him cat...like he flips scum the association is strong there but i'm fairly secure in my shape and eden townreads and the scott wagon looks pretty pristine disregarding sl if i'm right on tumble it doesn't make a lot of sense that scum is both bussing and voting palmar a vote spread with my possible scum all over the place suggests to me that both are town or scum is really disorganized, which i suppose is possible with a mostly afk scum team, but given how the game state i kinda doubt that | ||
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i just assumed between sl and eden vig had to have shot sl lol >< does that mean i actually have to read the thread now? pfft | ||
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On February 19 2016 11:56 rsoultin wrote: o.0 sl wasn't the vig shot? i just assumed between sl and eden vig had to have shot sl lol >< does that mean i actually have to read the thread now? pfft nh...i guess if anyone shoots eden here it's shining @.@ bueno, anything interesting or should i just catch up? | ||
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On February 19 2016 11:58 Tictock wrote: Well I'm caught up and pretty confused. GB why would you fake claim, the vote the person who counterclaimed you? But then that means Shining as town shot Eden? I guess scum shooting SL kus he hinted at being blue kinda makes sense... Idk this is really weird. you! On February 18 2016 15:56 Tictock wrote: Uhh if I remember this right I said I find you very hard to read and so don't have a real opinion. Your activity is nice, but it's not really indicative imo. I guess I actually agreed with SL, I just didn't understand the way he phrased it. You could be either town or mafia, but you'll at least give us plenty to read you on. I'm not sure what points of yours I was using... if I stole them you can have them back... i'm not sure how you don't get this...you proceed to call me null and then you use my reasoning and my reads to back up what you're saying about sl, which is pretty damn weird if you don't even have an opinion on my alignment it's like citing wikipedia for a paper | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:00 Tictock wrote: It's been a day man, and this business isn't helping. I think I'm gunna take a 30 from this and let my head clear a little. -_- coward | ||
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On February 18 2016 23:49 nooniansoong wrote: @shapelog, so tumble changed his opinions and broke his own rule on no meta. That's not convincing me of his scuminess. Furthermore, that quote that breshke brought up: I think it's clear that tumble thought that the disappearing afterwards was what made shining scummy, not the encouraging a claim part. Then breshke calls it contradictory because tumble also enouraged a claim. But it's not contradictory because the scumread wasn't based on merely encouraging the claim. yo, noon...what are you saying here? | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:02 Tictock wrote: For the Flowers though... Just gunna vote who I though was scum last night. ##Vote: Tumblewood -throws shoes at- if you're not gone i want an answer >< | ||
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not that we lynch into un-cc'd blues anyway lol >< but shining got all grr about it so...ye -shrugs- | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:19 nooniansoong wrote: Disappearing after was what made him scummy. Not wanting him to claim. So it wasn't exactly hypo critical i'm confused because you're quoting me there and attributing it to...bresh? tumble? who? or are you just saying i'm awesomesauce, cause that's like totally true ^^ | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:23 nooniansoong wrote: Dude you are just repeating your accusation again without providing evidence which was what he asked for. So show exactly what he stole from you. Ps I think you're probs scum but just ignore that for now please. that's because it's obvious and i'm lazy and cba to find it -_- | ||
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On February 17 2016 18:25 Tictock wrote: 4) Tumblewood 5) Breshke 6)nooniansoong 8) The Shining 9) Scott 11) Rsoultin 12GlowingBear 13) sicklucker Ok this was where I was at earlier, Shining's recent posts make me fairly convinced he is town, Bre and Tumble are also townleans for me. So that leaves me with.... 6)nooniansoong 9) Scott 11) Rsoultin 12GlowingBear 13) sicklucker Rsoul is pretty null to me, I see her mostly playing peacekeeper and her posting style makes it a bit hard to read her. Overall though she is pretty engaged and has been pretty open with sharing her thoughts so she's probably not a great lynch today. SL is kinda in the same boat for me, and I'm tempted to just put him on a back burner but I promised to filter dive him. So here I go... + Show Spoiler [FilterDive] + First 3 posts still feel off to me, but Rsoul pointed out that his early posts were probably in response to Trfel's open so that might explain the odd feels I'm getting. I'm actually not a fan at all of the vote on Eden. It looks really opportunistic to me, and the followup reasoning is pretty shit. On February 16 2016 09:07 sicklucker wrote: Edens never anything but vt or mafia with that post. I think are day one lynch is locked up see ya torm I also called this post out earlier because of the bolded, On February 16 2016 09:13 sicklucker wrote: because on a somewhat pointless day one if I suspect someone as being mafia and not a powerole I will target them always. I dont even have to be too sure its just always the safe play I actually shouldn't have dropped this point, kus SL was talking about THIS particular D1 being pointless in this post which doesn't really make sense. I'm kinda thinking this was just an excuse to leave his vote on Eden. This is kinda backed up by the fact that SL is now saying he was voting for information but got none since nobody else voted Eden. I do sorta agree with SL about the setup speculation point. It's more beneficial to mafia than town imo, least in a semi-open setup like this. This read progression looks odd to me as well. On February 17 2016 07:10 sicklucker wrote: shapelogs town. im sure its my only read of the game. and maybe ticktock That first post is pretty confident, so what's making him unsure about me in the next post? Also this Shape read is outa nowhere. Another odd post, so far SL has only given reads on me and Shape, so this is his first mafia read but he doesn't want to push Rsoul kus she can spew herself town? On February 17 2016 10:40 sicklucker wrote: rsoultin is giving me mafia vibes but I still wouldnt lynch her day one because like me she has a sick ability. Its called the spew yourself town ability its the best ability to have I'm not at all sure how SL came up with these names. I'd argue that GB, Kush and to a lesser extent Tumble have all been just as lackluster at this point in the game. On February 17 2016 11:45 sicklucker wrote: ya lets just lynch scott or shining. literally no one else should be up untill they participate There's a pretty good shot SL is scum here, he is playing the path of least resistance on the lynch today and the one scum read he seems to have he doesn't want to push. Neither Kush nor Scott have done much to warrant any townreads, but I also don't see much mafia motivation in their posts either. Kush is not as active as I've seen him in recent games, but that's not necessarily indicative of much. Been a long time since i played with Scott and his posts could come from either alignment. I don't know what to do about GB. On the one hand I think he could actually be town, but on the other I'm very unimpressed with what he has posted thus far. Policy lynch is an option. + Show Spoiler + Just to be clear I'm suggesting this because GB is clearly not making an effort to make himself readable this game, and if he is town I doubt he is going to be terribly helpful anyways So I think this all leaves me wanting to lynch SL, and possibly policy lynch GB. ##Vote: Sicklucker This post...it's in the spoiler most people probably didn't read cause ppl are awesome that way ^^ eh nvm it's actually prob nothing lol @.@ he accepts my interpretation of sl's first posts...for some reason i thought there was more in there than there was | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:28 nooniansoong wrote: O yeah I guess I thought bresh said that lol.nevertheless it's a bad reason to scumread him nh...idk i think i've played with tumble before...maybe...or i'm confusing him with another newbie...also possible noooooon i think you're scum ^^ just so you know <3 | ||
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On February 19 2016 12:31 rsoultin wrote: nh...idk i think i've played with tumble before...maybe...or i'm confusing him with another newbie...also possible noooooon i think you're scum ^^ just so you know <3 lol fuck >< not sure how i confuse tumble with TL cool or whatever, lovely | ||
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