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On February 22 2016 13:10 Trfel wrote: Rsoultin, is there any possible way that Breshke could be mafia here? given his d1 i wouldn't have said so, but i'll look back through all the filters tomorrow, too lol >< including yours! muahaha (just so i can be fairly certain of my townreads and make sure i'm not calling someone town too easily) noon is prob my least confident, but tbf he's also the one i'm least familiar with and that's why | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:07 Tictock wrote: My real issue here is that Scott/Tumble is just too fucking easy. Everything GB did was probably just pure WIFOM play but I'm sure he tried to go down in a way that would give his team a leg up. If GB/Scott/Tumble is the scumteam, and we lynched town!Palmar D1 and our vig shot town!Eden N1 then I'm submitting this game for worst town 2016. @.@ palmar getting lynched for that nonsense isn't "worst" anything, though i agree that the vig shot was pretty blah also this is just never an argument. scum teams are RNGd -shrugs- and a mostly inactive scum team would make a lot more sense with the d1 votecount, assuming that scott is scum | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:15 Tictock wrote: Yea, I townread Trfel, and he had a decent explanation for his townread on Palmar so I went with that when forming early reads. When it came time to consolidate in that crazy EoD I thought Palmar looked worse than Scott, I didn't take Trfel's word for it at that point. Plus I didn't and still don't see what the push on Scott D1 was about. I'll admit that I really only have D1 VCA to backup my read on Scott, but I think reading him by his activity/involvedness (shutup spell-check that is so too a word) is a terrible heuristic. yeah, see this is my problem -_- when i read your filter i got all of this but what i fail to see are the whys why did you think scott had a cleaner/better filter than palmar? don't just tell me that you thought it | ||
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On February 22 2016 12:07 rsoultin wrote: yet no vote until much later lol >< with gb on me and people bandying around the paranoia reads, it's possible scum was testing the waters here? the reluctance to push the counterwagons is pretty weird from both sides if scott is actually town also, the bolded smacks a lot of TMI to me, given the weirdest thing about GB's claim was how little it actually accomplished from a scum perspective (>> sorry shining, but seriously, if there's a known vig in the game who else would have shot eden like a moron lol >< or then proceeded to question shape so weirdly about the track?) why does scott immediately assume gb is just fucking around, and why doesn't he vote him if he's scumreading him? (plus i still say his early townread on me for things i do every single game which he always scumreads me for is pretty weird xP i would so love for that trash read to be right lol) comment on this, too, please ^^ if you can't see why scott is being scumread i'd like to know why you think our questions/reads are invalid also, what don't you understand about VCA not clearing scott? gb screams some bs about votes piling up on palmar and instead of voting scott as would make sense there, he votes off-wagon. like you say he should have voted palmar, but you do realize that by not voting scott he saved him just as surely as if he had voted palmar there, right? it's not rocket-science and ppl have been explaining to you that this EoD 1 analysis you've been doing is bad for quite some time now what don't you get? | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:21 Trfel wrote: The only reason I have at the moment to potentially scumread nooniansoong would be that his reads are too good for him to be town. But I'm thinking that this is really really stupid. So, this aside, if he's scum, he's playing a really incredible game and at this point I think I'm more sure of him than Breshke, though Breshke is still probably town. Tictock, do you mind explaining why you felt that Palmar's filter was worse than scott's on Day 1? I'd characterize scott's filter as simply not really being present, and Palmar's filter more of trolling/minimal explanations for reads. To me, this makes Palmar's filter feel more useful (if you ignore the useless posts, I felt that Palmar still had more content). I'm assuming you disagree, or are you thinking about it differently, or what? lol >< i've seen this thing about him lately in the games i've been hosting, but actually noon's been playing some pretty good games here latel...so yeah i wouldn't put too much weight on that well, i'll take another look at bresh...i'll be honest here and admit that though i noticed he was largely absent for at least the latter half of d2, i've kinda not been reading him too closely ever since i townread him earlier | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:29 Trfel wrote: No, nooniansoong is a terrible player who can never have his reads correct  I know, which is why I said it was a really stupid reason and I'm currently giving it exactly zero weight. The point I tried to convey was that I've played in most of the games with the "new style" nooniansoong and I that's the best reason I have to scumread him, and it's complete garbage. Plus he deserves a dig or two for last game (okay not really but I'll pretend)lol i was pretty sure you were joking but it can sometimes be hard to tell with you >> | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:35 Trfel wrote: So when we lynch scott and Tictock and they're both mafia and Tumblewood is town, do you admit that my meta reads aren't completely terrible any more? >> oh come now, as if you need further validation from me after i told you that someone with near perfect reads isn't horrible just because he has trouble getting people to listen to him lol >< you just want to lord it over me! well i hope tumblewood is scum just for that! | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:36 Breshke wrote: I can give excuses why I was gone D2 but it doesn't really matter because I'm fairly sure it won't affect anyone's reads and after looking at my filter you guys will still townread my anyway. I feel like if I was tumble Scott or TT the game is really easy and in not feeling that from their posts. Other than TT I don't see them actively questioning the like thread agreed townreads nor do I see them saying "this game is easy it's the other two". I think the best way to say it is keeping their options open? I'm not sure if I'm explaining myself right um, you mean, if we think it's easy and poe'd down to the three of them, shouldn't they think it's even more in the bag, since the town player presumably already knows who the scum are? essentially? | ||
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okay, yeah, i see where you're coming from lol >< just not really sure what we're supposed to get from it? like, if it's just scott and tumble here maybe they're having trouble finding a townie to push cause no thread pull/presence, but you'd think they'd either try something anyway or just buss -shrugs- idk | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:45 Trfel wrote: pssst Tumblewood isn't mafia I forget why but he isn't  My early townreads are almost never wrong. Remember PepperMintTea? Kuragari42? DoYouHas? I'll figure out why he is town later, but he's town.Next question, why is Tictock townreading scott31337? I think I know the answer... lol >< shhhh pre-flipped associates are baaaaad truffle wuffle | ||
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On February 22 2016 13:48 Trfel wrote: But when they're correct? Okay, you're right, I should stop being a jerk. And no, I'm nowhere near as confident as I'm pretending to be, but I'm finding it quite fun to taunt you Seriously though, let me catch up on the thread (1 page to go) then I'll go through their filters and make up some reasons to fit my pre-made conclusions.always the best way to | ||
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I don't know if it's how I phrase things or people aren't reading or what, but one of you has to be town, so I'll ask again, more simply: [b]SCOTT: Why did you wait so long to vote for GB D2? Why did you say his claim was "stirring the pot"? TICKTOCK: Why did/do you think scott's filter was/is cleaner than Palmar's? TUMBLE: Why when asked who you would have voted D1 if you didn't vote Palmar did you say GB? What were you doing/thinking for the 30 minutes you were in thread until you voted Palmar last minute? | ||
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ATTENTION I don't know if it's how I phrase things or people aren't reading or what, but one of you has to be town, so I'll ask again, more simply: SCOTT: Why did you wait so long to vote for GB D2? Why did you say his claim was "stirring the pot"? TICKTOCK: Why did/do you think scott's filter was/is cleaner than Palmar's? TUMBLE: Why when asked who you would have voted D1 if you didn't vote Palmar did you say GB? What were you doing/thinking for the 30 minutes you were in thread until you voted Palmar last minute? Edited for ugly coding @.@ | ||
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On February 23 2016 10:06 Tumblewood wrote: I woke up pretty late on the day of the deadline, so I spent most of the time catching up. I voted Palmar 5-10 minutes before deadline after realizing my Shape vote would be wasted. The question I answered was, "if you could do it again, who would you vote instead?" and yes I said GB. Lol >< I mean, why GB? I understand that you said him but why did you say him instead of someone else? I'm trying to understand your thought process if you're town, which I do think is quite possible tbh. | ||
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On February 23 2016 12:18 Tumblewood wrote: I just looked through my notes and chose the person with the most negative annotations on their page. Easier than actually reading the thread. okay, that tracks...actually your filter in general tracks pretty well lol >< which is leading me toward agreeing with truffle (and noon?) on his scumteam, but anyway can you talk to me about tictock? i see where your read progression went with noon and bresh but not with tictock (though i may have missed it in your filter) | ||
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i might scan the thread in the morning but like as not, at least after i go to bed in about an hour, i won't have a chance to until after EoD...shouldn't be a problem or anything but just letting y'all know | ||
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On February 24 2016 06:24 Trfel wrote: Well, if anyone wants to talk about anything, please let me know. I could use a bit more motivation. I'm town and The Shining is town. Two mafia in the following: Tictock Tumblewood Breshke nooniansoong rsoultin I should probably look through all of them at this point  And no more stupid associations.i really can't be around 'till later...just checked in to see the flip :/ break and compare notes tonight? | ||
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hey truffle what are you doing in those spoilers? cause you're coming to town conclusions but those points seem to be your issues with both filters? | ||
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