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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 07 2016 15:32 GMT
#1674
On February 08 2016 00:12 Rels wrote:
I read Palmar's filter. He is the lynch today whatever happens. In addition of the "marv read" (him being active but with no direction the first 24 hours), the biggest thing is how he was AFK the whole Friday, and he never explained it. A townie would never do that; if he knew he needed to AFK 24 hours he would say it (especially since the pressure was on him before he disappeared), if it was unexpected he would have said a word in thread. This attitude is extremely scum indicative. This is what I and Superbia did during PyP; super active early, then having a much harder time to post all the time later.
I'm not saying he didn't have something to do BTW, maybe he did; I'm saying his attitude regarding how he AFK was scum.

Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.

This might indicate BF as town. It's early in the game, nobody is quite under suspicions yet, Palmar knows he's good at creating wagons, I don't think he would create suspicions on his teammate ? Plus I think he is known for not bussing, even if this can be broken for one particular game of course.

Later he rescinded this read so I'm not sure it is very AI actually.

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On February 04 2016 22:51 Palmar wrote:
I would feel a lot better about you defending me koshi if you actually explained what the tell is. I don't really care if you want to use it in the future.

Koshi explain your tell please.

Rels this does not indicate me being town. in this post:

On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.

Palmar refers to ritoky not me.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 07 2016 15:43 GMT
#1678
On February 08 2016 00:35 Rels wrote:
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On February 08 2016 00:32 boxerfred wrote:
Palmar refers to ritoky not me.

Yep that's what I said. My point is: Palmar said you might be scum at a time when noone was really suspected => you're not scum with him. Maybe ? It doesn't feel super strong actually.


I don't understand that.

On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.


This is what Palmar says. Instead of "bf", he wanted to say "ritoky". So no, he doesn't say I'm scummy, he says RITOKY is scummy. Am I dumb for not seeing what you mean?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 07 2016 17:27 GMT
#1740
On February 08 2016 00:55 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2016 00:43 boxerfred wrote:
On February 08 2016 00:35 Rels wrote:
On February 08 2016 00:32 boxerfred wrote:
Palmar refers to ritoky not me.

Yep that's what I said. My point is: Palmar said you might be scum at a time when noone was really suspected => you're not scum with him. Maybe ? It doesn't feel super strong actually.


I don't understand that.

On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.


This is what Palmar says. Instead of "bf", he wanted to say "ritoky". So no, he doesn't say I'm scummy, he says RITOKY is scummy. Am I dumb for not seeing what you mean?

He really said you were scummy. The sentence should read:
bf might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point ritoky made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.
You have to replace the "he", not the "bf".

lol okay. That means I have understood that sentence correctly for the first time just now.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 07 2016 17:31 GMT
#1742
On February 08 2016 01:14 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2016 01:13 Rels wrote:
Both ritoky and Damdred townread kush too.


Lol rels you are going way too deep with this vca. To me it looks like scum killed strong town players who weren't likely to be protected.

That would mean that scum hit with their weird big gun and no vig shot was fired. It feels a bit like TMI what you're saying. You're a bit too sure.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 07 2016 17:35 GMT
#1745
so we're all clean with a Palmar lynch now?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 07 2016 17:36 GMT
#1747
if I had to locate scum outside of chez/onegu/md, I'd say it's nooniansong/marv. Tbh I have no idea about Palmar but I think he should be the lynch so we can freely analyze votes from D1.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 07 2016 17:36 GMT
#1748
On February 08 2016 02:35 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2016 02:31 boxerfred wrote:
On February 08 2016 01:14 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 08 2016 01:13 Rels wrote:
Both ritoky and Damdred townread kush too.


Lol rels you are going way too deep with this vca. To me it looks like scum killed strong town players who weren't likely to be protected.

That would mean that scum hit with their weird big gun and no vig shot was fired. It feels a bit like TMI what you're saying. You're a bit too sure.

The big gun only kills power roles. None of the flipped ppl were a power role.

oh okay. lol what a bad vig shot then
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 07 2016 17:43 GMT
#1753
On February 08 2016 02:41 Rels wrote:
[image loading]
BF, there is a scum vig role. It was talked about in thread so I have no idea how you could miss it.

looks like I should read more then :<
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 07 2016 19:55 GMT
#1814
vayne, marv, palmar, x scum
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 07 2016 20:30 GMT
#1823
On February 08 2016 05:03 marvellosity wrote:
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On February 08 2016 04:55 boxerfred wrote:
vayne, marv, palmar, x scum

So you think I just randomly attacked 2 of my buddies in Va and palmar? Are you totally insane?

Why wouldn't you do this as mafia? Puts great light on you.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 08 2016 16:50 GMT
#2002
Hey guys. Just came back from carnival, am kinda drunk, won't do a thing now since we're all locked on Palmar anyways. I tend to be mislynched as soon as I afk from the thread, so keep that in mind if someone considers me a better lynch than Palmar.

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 08 2016 21:51 GMT
#2061
On February 09 2016 01:50 boxerfred wrote:
Hey guys. Just came back from carnival, am kinda drunk, won't do a thing now since we're all locked on Palmar anyways. I tend to be mislynched as soon as I afk from the thread, so keep that in mind if someone considers me a better lynch than Palmar.




On February 09 2016 02:05 Shapelog wrote:
Vote Count - Day 2


Palmar (10): marvellosity, disformation, Koshi, VayneAuthority, NocturneMage, MoosyDoosy, Rels, nooniansoong, darthfoley, boxerfred
boxerfred (1): Chezinu

Not voted (2): Palmar, Onegu

At this time, Palmar is slated to be lynched.
Day 2 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 08 2016 21:51 GMT
#2062
I'll play a game of Heroes, eat some pizza, then I'm off to bed. Have not cought up.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 08 2016 22:19 GMT
#2066
On February 09 2016 07:15 NocturneMage wrote:
boxerfred am I misunderstanding or why are you suggesting you'd be lynched?

you're misunderstanding. I'm just saying that I tend to be mislynched once I afk because I'm not great at establishing myself as town. Chezinu voted me which feels damn scummy to me. Im in bed now, gnite.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 09 2016 07:19 GMT
#2199
On February 09 2016 08:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2016 01:50 boxerfred wrote:
Hey guys. Just came back from carnival, am kinda drunk, won't do a thing now since we're all locked on Palmar anyways. I tend to be mislynched as soon as I afk from the thread, so keep that in mind if someone considers me a better lynch than Palmar.


:D lynch boxer!

Noted. This post is a great indicator that MD had not read the thread when he started to inquire reads from people. He also only follows others in his reads. Lots of pretended activity and participation. Koshi indeed feels wishywashy, would love to listen to his reads if there are any. Marv confirmed town after the Palmar flip, Rels and LightningStrike are not scum together for the reaction to the thread entry from Rels which makes me hard townread Rels. LS remains a null. Chez should be scum at this point. Scum probably Chez, nooniansong, MD, LS, Koshi. Maybe do some PoE?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 09 2016 09:15 GMT
#2206
On February 09 2016 18:10 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2016 16:19 boxerfred wrote:
On February 09 2016 08:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On February 09 2016 01:50 boxerfred wrote:
Hey guys. Just came back from carnival, am kinda drunk, won't do a thing now since we're all locked on Palmar anyways. I tend to be mislynched as soon as I afk from the thread, so keep that in mind if someone considers me a better lynch than Palmar.


:D lynch boxer!

Noted. This post is a great indicator that MD had not read the thread when he started to inquire reads from people. He also only follows others in his reads. Lots of pretended activity and participation. Koshi indeed feels wishywashy, would love to listen to his reads if there are any. Marv confirmed town after the Palmar flip, Rels and LightningStrike are not scum together for the reaction to the thread entry from Rels which makes me hard townread Rels. LS remains a null. Chez should be scum at this point. Scum probably Chez, nooniansong, MD, LS, Koshi. Maybe do some PoE?

The bold makes no sense. "LS and Rels not together, LS null => means Rels is town!" This post feels scummy TBH.

Yeah, it's kinda weird. Here's the thought process:

Premises:
Onegu => null/scummy
Rels => town lean

Actions:
Rels goes nuts on LS' entry because he didn't realize he replaced into the thread.

Conclusion:
Rels and LS are not both scum. Why: Rels would've checked in scum qt for the replacement, I guess scum qt would be full of "where's onegu omg" so he'd check that first and would not be surprised at all. That makes me think that Rels is town, in disregard of Onegu's actual alignment.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 09 2016 09:57 GMT
#2210
Chez:

On February 04 2016 13:13 Chezinu wrote:
Red 3 standing by.


His very entry to the thread. "Hey, my PM has some flavour to it, I am vanilla town." After that claim, he basically disappears into randomness. He's not participating in a good way D1. Here is a list of absolutely useless posts:

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 04 2016 14:54 Chezinu wrote:
I'll be threading the Stone Needle.

On February 05 2016 04:40 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 23:36 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 23:32 Palmar wrote:
On February 04 2016 23:29 Rels wrote:
On February 04 2016 23:10 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 23:05 Palmar wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:58 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:51 Palmar wrote:
I would feel a lot better about you defending me koshi if you actually explained what the tell is. I don't really care if you want to use it in the future.

no ty

plz

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

And for the people really paying attention they could find the reason.

So if we read Palmar's filter and know what to look for, we could find a tell that Palmar is town ?

We should just threaten to lynch him until he coughs it up

Lynching me just brings me my salvation. One of the things Jeezus and I have incommon.

I see a problem with this analogy. Did He need saving? Does one die to save himself or another? Well, one could die to self figuratively for the sake of another benefiting.. and by doing so.. loses himself and thus saves himself! It could be true for peoples... but for Him... He needed not saving to begin with. He died for another.. in fact for his enemies.. He showed the greatest love to his enemies.

So dear Koshi, how does us lynching you bring you your salvation?

On February 05 2016 04:41 Chezinu wrote:
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On February 05 2016 00:29 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 05 2016 00:23 Koshi wrote:
Ofc JAT puts the townie thinking in red and the dumb part in green. Just to make me think he is a dumbass till I read his explanation.

I always love to make you think you are a dumbass. It happens so rarely. The colors itself didn't mean anything - it was just to differentiate.

COLORS DO HAVE MEANING!!!

On February 05 2016 04:45 Chezinu wrote:
That's right guys. I R Chez.

He is a story: In the shadows, lurks my follower. He watches as I play. He learns the effort in which I play. Free from death, Free from shame, I post without restraint. For Chez himself knows not what will come next, but knows the methods to which he takes. He knows not what it fully entails, but each day posting learns a little more. Who am I, what is my method? How do I play? How do I win? One day, in a life to come, Chez will know the way he plays.

On February 05 2016 04:57 Chezinu wrote:
Hey guys,

Does anyone here know of any Jedi that can assist me? I was reading this book that says time is all relative and that the future can be the past or present. depending on the net time-forced applied on the system or medium you dwell. It speaks a a distance universe far far away. The author claims to have spoken to an inhabitant in a galaxy in this distant verse. I was wondering if a Jedi can help channel communication with this individual. I heard I needed to invest some resources and ship them to his galaxy in order to claim my interest in the future, but I lost the address when I lost the book. A Jedi would be useful to contact this individual. Could anyone here help me?



This is followed by derailing and trolling with the whole "disformation vs. the Chezinu rule":

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 05 2016 05:52 Chezinu wrote:
##unvote
##vote disformation


So, unfortunate for you...

Btw, you can help by finding me a Jedi so I can contact an individual in a galaxy far far away in a time long from now. I need to talk to him to find out the address, so I can send him my resources. He will have invest these resources and pay me more. I just need to send him money now. PLEASE HALPS!

On February 05 2016 05:56 Chezinu wrote:
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On February 05 2016 05:56 disformation wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:52 Rels wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:04 disformation wrote:
On February 04 2016 18:43 Rels wrote:
On February 04 2016 12:16 ritoky wrote:
On February 04 2016 12:11 darthfoley wrote:
On February 04 2016 12:07 ritoky wrote:
On February 04 2016 11:01 disformation wrote:
phone post from bed.
nearly forgot.
@NocturneMage:
care to remind me what you think of meta reads?


this post is terrible in so many ways.


Why?


1) notifying that he is going out of his way to post from an inconvenient place -> notice me senpai
2) "almost forgot" -> something he must tell us! must be important
3) deferring to nocturnemage
a) now confirmed not important
b) if town is deferring to someone who's alignment he doesn't know for no reason
4) trying to discredit meta which CAN be a useful tool
5) smiley face cuz clearly "i'm joking gaiz"

nothing about this post is good in any way. all of it is legit hot trash.

Mm this is good.

What does this mean for my alignment? I haven't seen you give a read on me in your filter.

I don't have a read on you. I agree with ritoky that the post in question was bad though.

Cool.
Do you have any idea of what is going on?


Rules are happening!

On February 05 2016 06:34 Chezinu wrote:
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On February 04 2016 10:48 disformation wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:35 darthfoley wrote:
On February 04 2016 08:25 Zyrre wrote:
Sweet, I like being town. A lot less pressure.


Wanted to point this out. To be fair, I have done this as town before, but it's worth noting.

On February 04 2016 08:12 Damdred wrote:
I hate this game already.

hi

hi, let me throw the weakest/easiest TR ever at you.


Likewise, I don't particularly like this "read." The explanation was basically hearsay, so I'm still not a fan

I followed the PYP game with Koshi and Palmar,[...][/QUOTE ]
Not sure I correctly understand that sentence. That with is kinda confusing me.
Also good to know since VA, Rels and me where also in PYP, so you I am interested in seeing how you read those three when compared to PYP. Rels hasn't posted yet here, so you don't need to do so now.
Mainly want this post in my filter to remember to ask you about those three. xD


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On February 05 2016 05:36 disformation wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:28 Koshi wrote:
lol you just claimed mafia

##unvote
##vote disformation

Since you are not actually voting for me in the voting thread, I assume this is a joke?
Really confused here.


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On February 05 2016 06:26 disformation wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:17 disformation wrote:
Also HtS got back to my PM: the strong arm thing appears to be a role and scum does not have a free strong arm shot for their faction.

Seriously ? The OP is very badly written then. Like every role is like "he can frame", "he can assassinate", but the strongarm is "the scumteam can uses the strongarm shot".

I agree and am kinda confused by this.


Confusion is of the darkside...



Followed by, wait for it, more uselessness:

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 05 2016 06:36 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 06:35 disformation wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:34 Chezinu wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:48 disformation wrote:
On February 04 2016 10:35 darthfoley wrote:
On February 04 2016 08:25 Zyrre wrote:
Sweet, I like being town. A lot less pressure.


Wanted to point this out. To be fair, I have done this as town before, but it's worth noting.

On February 04 2016 08:12 Damdred wrote:
I hate this game already.

hi

hi, let me throw the weakest/easiest TR ever at you.


Likewise, I don't particularly like this "read." The explanation was basically hearsay, so I'm still not a fan

I followed the PYP game with Koshi and Palmar,[...][/QUOTE ]
Not sure I correctly understand that sentence. That with is kinda confusing me.
Also good to know since VA, Rels and me where also in PYP, so you I am interested in seeing how you read those three when compared to PYP. Rels hasn't posted yet here, so you don't need to do so now.
Mainly want this post in my filter to remember to ask you about those three. xD


On February 05 2016 05:36 disformation wrote:
On February 05 2016 05:28 Koshi wrote:
lol you just claimed mafia

##unvote
##vote disformation

Since you are not actually voting for me in the voting thread, I assume this is a joke?
Really confused here.


On February 05 2016 06:26 disformation wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:17 disformation wrote:
Also HtS got back to my PM: the strong arm thing appears to be a role and scum does not have a free strong arm shot for their faction.

Seriously ? The OP is very badly written then. Like every role is like "he can frame", "he can assassinate", but the strongarm is "the scumteam can uses the strongarm shot".

I agree and am kinda confused by this.


Confusion is of the darkside...

I thought speaking in absolutes is of the dark side?

Welcome to the Brown Side, where Colors Do Matter!

On February 05 2016 06:43 Chezinu wrote:
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On February 05 2016 06:38 marvellosity wrote:
kinda scummy to misapply your own rule tbh.

Koshi started it!

On February 05 2016 07:49 Chezinu wrote:
Hey guys,

Do you think the force is real? like you know... the Jedi force.

On February 05 2016 07:57 Chezinu wrote:
UUMMMMMMMM

UMMMMMMM

UMMMMMMMMM


Jeeeediiiiii...
Jeeediiiiii...
Jeeeeeeediiiiiiiii...


This is the force speaking!
come and help Chez
He needs you to talk
Come to Chez


JeeediiiiiUUMMMMMMMM

JeeediiiiiUMMMMMMM

JeeediiiiiUMMMMMMMMM

On February 05 2016 07:59 Chezinu wrote:
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On February 05 2016 07:58 ritoky wrote:
On February 05 2016 07:57 Chezinu wrote:
UUMMMMMMMM

UMMMMMMM

UMMMMMMMMM


Jeeeediiiiii...
Jeeediiiiii...
Jeeeeeeediiiiiiiii...


This is the force speaking!
come and help Chez
He needs you to talk
Come to Chez


JeeediiiiiUUMMMMMMMM

JeeediiiiiUMMMMMMM

JeeediiiiiUMMMMMMMMM


[image loading]


Jedi? is that you?

On February 05 2016 08:08 Chezinu wrote:
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On February 05 2016 08:06 ritoky wrote:
my town is something like: ritoky, rels, jat, disfo, darth
maybe town is like: damdred, marv, koshi, kush
fuck you is: boxerfred

and i think there's probably a mafia between VA and NM.

You think Chez is town.



I'm actually stopping to quote the useless posts now, because I do not want to paste the whole page 2 of his filter here. Some blahblah about "I graduated from Jedi Academy", more bullshit.

But then, there's an interesting series of posts in his filter:

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=769&topic_id=503437
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=774&topic_id=503437
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=784&topic_id=503437
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=793&topic_id=503437


From a disformation vote (trolly or not, it was a huge derailing), he likes Palmar, the GF. Then throws in another name, nooniansong. Then ends up calling out Zyrre, a VT. And boom, at last, he says "I randomly copy pasted names" to render everything he just said useless. This is not "brown magic", this is not even non-valuable bullshit. This is clearly derailing the thread, actively creating confusion, trying to mislead people. I mean, those are his townreads, right?

Well, after rendering his list useless by "i just copy pasted", he goes again to it:
On February 05 2016 14:30 Chezinu wrote:
Here is a list of answer Chezinu provided in the game:

Chezinu
Palmar
nooniansoong
Zyrre

Interesting picks I must say.

"Hey, here are townreads. Hey, no, kidding. Hey, yes, indeed."
Had to think of this (00:59).

Like, what is this even?

A bit later, more on Palmar:

On February 06 2016 06:38 Chezinu wrote:
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On February 06 2016 06:36 disformation wrote:
Looking at the game you played with ritoky and MD:
I think you named both palmar and zyrre apparently at random. Why Zyrre over Palmar?

I don't like it when Palmar dies... it's makes me sad.

Can't say if it's bold "he's my scum buddy so I townread him" or if it's a real townread. Given that he was the only one voting outside of the Palmar train D2, I think it's "it's too scummy to be scum so people will townread me for that move lol". Exactly the stuff I'd expect out of Chez as far as I got to know him.

Note: up until now (D2), there is not a single scum read given from Chezinu.
But, finally, here they are:

On February 07 2016 22:17 Chezinu wrote:
Marv
boxer
disformation

On February 07 2016 22:30 Chezinu wrote:
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On February 07 2016 22:20 disformation wrote:
On February 07 2016 22:17 Chezinu wrote:
Marv
boxer
disformation

Is that your town list or your scum list?

interest list.

Marv and boxer scum team would be interesting.

I wonder how this would make sense. Marv would've bussed the shit out of Palmar, while I would've hard defended Palmar D1. I mean, I townread him, right? While I made a huge case on ritoky which was entirely wrong since ritoky was town. How would the combination of marv and me make sense in any way? How would you draw such a conclusion?
Interestingly enough, Chezinu paints a connection between a guy with a top reputation as town and someone who tends to be mislynched easily. If people had to decide between lynching me and lynching marv, I'd be dead.
In that context, the next post makes even more sense:

On February 08 2016 11:54 Chezinu wrote:
Guys,

Have you ever trolled a game and never have time to actually play the game? But every time you go to play, you end up trolling?

Troll problems.

Ok, it's time to get stuff done.

Boxer why you mafia?
Marv do you love me?


PAAAAALLLLLLMAAAARRR!!!!!!!

A direct attack on me - and an attempt to simply get marv's attention, almost like a 3-year-old running to papa, hugging him, "dad, do you love me? i love you too!". So at first, he says "boxerfred and marv, scum together, interesting", then he splits the scum dream team again into "boxer = scum" and "marv what you think of me"? If he really scumreads marv, why would he care for what marv thinks about him?

Oh, and in true Chezinu manner, this tiny little bit of "giving reads" is followed up by more useless stuff:

+ Show Spoiler +

On February 09 2016 06:09 Chezinu wrote:
Some may say that you are not deep.
Some may say that you are not an intellectual.
Some may say that you are not an artist.
Some may say that you are not a critic.
Some may say that you are not a poet.
Some may say that you just have internet access.

Well, know this.

Those some may sayers are not going to live with you long. So know that there are other some may sayers that can cheer you on.

You can Deep!
You can Intel!
You can Art!
You can Crit!
You can Poe!
You can and have internet access!



Next up, his reaction to the Palmar flip:
+ Show Spoiler [wtf] +

On February 09 2016 08:04 Chezinu wrote:


PAAALLLMAAAAR!!!! NOOO!!!!! WHY!!!!!


On February 09 2016 08:10 Chezinu wrote:
Guys, I would like to say that it was a honor to help form a second wagon on Day 1 to aid in the detection of mafia scum. I was secretly hoping Palmar would have died Day 1 but I couldn't vote for Palmar cause I likes him. This was also an opportunity to gain more information. We are doing great guys!

This post is so scummy.
Remember: at this point in time, Chez has done exactly NOTHING to help town. He didn't drop any hard town reads, he didn't push anyone for being scum, he did not participate in serious discussions, he did exactly nothing to help town. On the contrary, partially, he even derailed the thread into pure unreadable and useless garbage. Then, suddenly, he comes up with this post. I take the following points out of this post:

a. "I helped to form a second wagon on Day 1". This is weak. He's referring to the Zyrre wagon (imho). Yes, given that both have flipped now, we should indeed go back to some VCA of D1 votes. But was it indeed Chez' intention to create a second wagon to simply gain more information? And, way more important: did he REALLY help create that wagon? No! He did not.
b. "I was secretly hoping that Palmar died N1". If that is the case, why didn't Chez vote for Palmar D2? And, way more important:

Final Day 1 Vote Count


Zyrre (8): darthfoley, nooniansoong, Chezinu, boxerfred, marvellosity, Damdred, Koshi, justanothertownie, Palmar
Palmar (7): marvellosity, justanothertownie, VayneAuthority, NocturneMage, Rels, disformation, Zyrre, ritoky boxerfred, Damdred
justanothertownie (1): Palmar, Onegu
VayneAuthority (1):MoosyDoosy
nooniansoong (0): Koshi, marvellosity, justanothertownie, Rels, boxerfred
NocturneMage (0),disformation disformation
ritoky (0): boxerfred, Chezinu,
Onegu (0):, nooniansoong
Disformation (0): Chezinu,Chezinu
MoosyDoosy (0): nooniansoong

Not Voting (0):

Tonight Zyrre had been executed.
Day 1 has ended.


Why was he on Zyrre if he wanted to lynch Palmar? He could've made the difference. He could've hammered Palmar, and he even said the he wanted to do it! But he did not do it. Here is the progression:

D1:
1. He likes Palmar. Drops a townread.
2. Votes [color=green]Zyrre[/color], in a close 8-7 scenario, over [color=red]Palmar[/color].

D2:
1. Does not vote Palmar, being the only one not voting Palmar. "Too scummy to be scum", someone said.
2. Once Palmar flips, Chez says that he "secretly wanted Palmar to die D1". Which is an obvious lie.

...but, yeah, ends with:

We are doing great guys!

Now that is bold.

________________________________________________________________________________


Now, D3. Chez follows marv onto Koshi.

On February 09 2016 08:21 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2016 08:11 marvellosity wrote:
On February 09 2016 08:10 Chezinu wrote:
Guys, I would like to say that it was a honor to help form a second wagon on Day 1 to aid in the detection of mafia scum. I was secretly hoping Palmar would have died Day 1 but I couldn't vote for Palmar cause I likes him. This was also an opportunity to gain more information. We are doing great guys!

ok

what information did you gain, Chezinu?

That Koshi hop on Zyrre on Day 1, then that defensive jump on early Day 2 on Palmar.

On February 09 2016 08:22 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2016 08:16 marvellosity wrote:
I really can't get over those Koshi posts from earlier.

1. Koshi very rarely just goes afk as town, even on 'auto' days. he still does things.
2. The 'all going according to plan?' post that i explained why i took issue
3. the subdued and frankly both submissive and petulant tone of all his subsequent posts today
4. basically admitted he wasn't going to be able to shit townie rainbows

tldr: Koshi

d3 lynch

totes posted above before reading this.

I'm not believing this tbh. Like, if I go into a thread and decide not to read up, I at least read the last 2-3 posts. Your eye directly falls on it, and if you plan to say something about a guy, how can you ignore his bolded red name? So Chez scumreads Koshi, sheeping a guy who should be established and accepted town, marv. The same guy he tried to pocket earlier, by the way.

Chez does nothing to add substance to his Koshi read. He's simply following thread sentiment by marv.

And after this, he goes nuts about me, also without adding substance. Without mentioning even a single post besides my initial post where I have him in my scum list. And, look at that:

On February 09 2016 16:32 Chezinu wrote:
Come on Kylo Ren, you know you want to hit this. Show me your moves. Want to take this out the ring?

"You must be scum. It's just like it."

##vote Chezinu

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 09 2016 09:58 GMT
#2211
On February 09 2016 18:20 marvellosity wrote:
RIddle me this:

Show nested quote +
On February 08 2016 04:55 boxerfred wrote:
vayne, marv, palmar, x scum

Show nested quote +
On February 09 2016 16:19 boxerfred wrote:
On February 09 2016 08:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On February 09 2016 01:50 boxerfred wrote:
Hey guys. Just came back from carnival, am kinda drunk, won't do a thing now since we're all locked on Palmar anyways. I tend to be mislynched as soon as I afk from the thread, so keep that in mind if someone considers me a better lynch than Palmar.


:D lynch boxer!

Noted. This post is a great indicator that MD had not read the thread when he started to inquire reads from people. He also only follows others in his reads. Lots of pretended activity and participation. Koshi indeed feels wishywashy, would love to listen to his reads if there are any. Marv confirmed town after the Palmar flip, Rels and LightningStrike are not scum together for the reaction to the thread entry from Rels which makes me hard townread Rels. LS remains a null. Chez should be scum at this point. Scum probably Chez, nooniansong, MD, LS, Koshi. Maybe do some PoE?


These posts are barely any apart in boxerfred's filter.

In the first, he is assuming Palmar is flipping mafia and I could be mafia with him, and even asserts his read when i tell him he's insane to think it, because 'attacking Palmar puts me in a great light'

Now Palmar flips mafia, I am 'confirmed town' despite the fact he was already working on that assumption when he put me in a team with him and told me i'd look good for attacking him.

???

I can solve this. The "marv is scum with Palmar" thought was dumb. You called me out on that, remember? I slept a night over it, and yeah, it was a dumb thought.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 09 2016 10:00 GMT
#2212
I spent too little time looking into VA/NM and shouldn't drop reads on them until I filter dived both. Gonna put them to "null" simply because they went completely out of my focus.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 09 2016 10:05 GMT
#2213
oh, EBWOP to my case: Chez didn't want Palmar to be lynched, but to be shot N1. I fucking suck. I wanna cry now.
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