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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 14:20 GMT
#959
On February 05 2016 20:52 marvellosity wrote:
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On February 05 2016 20:47 justanothertownie wrote:
There are very few townreads I am married to if any. People be scummy or not playing.

well, it's just like. at the start i liked bf's zeal in going after ritoky. i can't tell if the continuing certainty is quite warranted, and if it's not warranted, i'm not sure that's scummy, but it's a little something.

kinda raised my eyebrow at him bringing up him being shot and ritoky looking bad. that's kinda a level or two too much for what's going on between them. again, could be pretty zealous town or mafia making too much out of that whole read

also i feel his treatment of disinformation is a little weird. like he's SO CERTAIN THAT he's town, SO EARLY AND CONSISTENTLY. saying he has "huge amounts of town cred" and also a post where he says he's "surprised disfo isn't here". Why? Why is he surprised? Should he be there at all times? Does it matter if he's not there if boxerfred is heavily townreading him?

It's just kinda odd tbh.

Overall, disformation's posting style feels town to me. The mod thingy just made that stronger. I was surpirsed disformation wasn't in the thread because it was afternoon in germany, same timezones and shit, and I expected him to be in the thread. And, as you can see if you read the following posts, he indeed was in the thread. And yes it does matter because disformation can basically lean back on my hard townread, rub his hands and say "look at this bf fool, he's townreading me, lol I don't even need to post shit". I expected him to instantly post after this if he really was town. which he did.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 14:23 GMT
#962
On February 05 2016 23:16 marvellosity wrote:
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On February 05 2016 23:15 boxerfred wrote:
Given that I agree on ritoky's/disformation's idea of one scum between NocturneMage and VayneAuthority, I feel like we should lynch one of them and shoot the other one at night. NM vs. Vayne didn't feel like town on town. Especially NM felt forced, his arguments weren't too good. However I liked his later explanations of them.

So. I'd say we lynch nooniansong. He's the "most likely to be mafia" player of all in my eyes. Chez is not worth a vig shot (yet), I'd rather use the vig shot to kill NM or Vayne. I'd prefer to lynch NM and shoot Vayne or the other way around.


If you think we very likely have a mafia between 2 people, why would you want to lynch outside that basically on policy?

I'm not lynching nooniansong on policy, I'm saying we lynch him due to his bad defences and his idgaf approach which makes me think he's the scum guy in the four guys I initially mentioned. Regarding NM and VA, I have no idea who of them is the scum one. If we lynch between them, we should shoot the other guy if the lynch flips town. I'm describing scenarios, I have not decided yet (or did you see a ##vote nooniansong somewhere?) stop nagging on me and instead get to the content on my psots, or just vote me and shut the fuck up
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 14:24 GMT
#965
On February 05 2016 23:21 justanothertownie wrote:
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On February 05 2016 23:15 boxerfred wrote:
I should elaborate. Just had a cigarette, calmed down a bit.


Basically, the way Chezinu and Moosy approach this game pisses me off. Given that nooniansong also seems to not give a fuck makes me re-think if I really want to put in the (little) time I already have in those games. I signed up for this game to have fun and participate a lot. Contrary to my latest games, I've fully read the thread despite rolling town which I normally do not like that much. I tend to not put any effort into the game if I am town, instead I go really low and don't watch the thread too closely. I do not have a problem with low activity players but I do have a problem with people that just screw up the thread. I can't believe that all four of Onegu, Chezinu, MoosyDoosy and nooniansong are mafia. However, Chezinu's and MD's posting styles make it really hard for me to stay calm and analyze shit. My case on ritoky might've not been the best one, but it was solid. The kind of one-liner conversation that we mainly had in the last 25 pages is something that I think does not bring town on a good way to find scum.

So, to stay constructive, I'd even refrain from my ritoky case now and leave it standing. People can bring that up later in the game. I strongly recommend to lynch between Chezinu, nooniansong, MoosyDoosy and Onegu, and I'd actually add Koshi to that list since I have the impression that he doesn't do much for town.

Among those four (five) players, nooniansong is the obvious lynch target. Bad defence, no contribution for town. Same goes for Moosy and Chez, those guys even derail the thread into plain bullshit. Onegue, while being sick (which I believe), is someone who I can hardly read anyways. MoosyDoosy has his dumbtell of 3 vs. 4 mafia going for him, can't see this guy actually pulling this play as scum. So there's Chezinu and nooniansong left. Well, nooniansong should IMHO, if he's town, indeed replace the fuck out of this game, while I don't feel that Chez will be usefull anytime soon.

Given that I agree on ritoky's/disformation's idea of one scum between NocturneMage and VayneAuthority, I feel like we should lynch one of them and shoot the other one at night. NM vs. Vayne didn't feel like town on town. Especially NM felt forced, his arguments weren't too good. However I liked his later explanations of them.

So. I'd say we lynch nooniansong. He's the "most likely to be mafia" player of all in my eyes. Chez is not worth a vig shot (yet), I'd rather use the vig shot to kill NM or Vayne. I'd prefer to lynch NM and shoot Vayne or the other way around.

Oh yeah, and I still haven't read 42+.

I don't understand. Why is chez not worth a vig shot exactly? Why should we lynch NM?

Gut. If we decide between NM/VA, i'd lynch NM because I feel if there is indeed a scum between those two, it's more likely to be NM than VA. Chez is not worth a vig shot because while he's being bad, he can still be ignored and lynched/shot later.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 14:30 GMT
#967
On February 05 2016 23:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 23:23 boxerfred wrote:
On February 05 2016 23:16 marvellosity wrote:
On February 05 2016 23:15 boxerfred wrote:
Given that I agree on ritoky's/disformation's idea of one scum between NocturneMage and VayneAuthority, I feel like we should lynch one of them and shoot the other one at night. NM vs. Vayne didn't feel like town on town. Especially NM felt forced, his arguments weren't too good. However I liked his later explanations of them.

So. I'd say we lynch nooniansong. He's the "most likely to be mafia" player of all in my eyes. Chez is not worth a vig shot (yet), I'd rather use the vig shot to kill NM or Vayne. I'd prefer to lynch NM and shoot Vayne or the other way around.


If you think we very likely have a mafia between 2 people, why would you want to lynch outside that basically on policy?

I'm not lynching nooniansong on policy, I'm saying we lynch him due to his bad defences and his idgaf approach which makes me think he's the scum guy in the four guys I initially mentioned. Regarding NM and VA, I have no idea who of them is the scum one. If we lynch between them, we should shoot the other guy if the lynch flips town. I'm describing scenarios, I have not decided yet (or did you see a ##vote nooniansong somewhere?) stop nagging on me and instead get to the content on my psots, or just vote me and shut the fuck up

Could you please explain in your own words why you think there is a mafia between NM and VA?

Basically, gut. And the fact that VA disappeared while NM had to defend himself heavily. Makes me think that one of them enjoys the other one being attacked.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 18:54 GMT
#1098
marv not scumreading noon and failing miserably in reading me makes me think he might've rolled scum. fuck this, gonna ##unvote ##vote nooniansong, and if any of you follows zyrre or marv into a "bf is afk let's lynch him"-lynch, great, do it. bye for today
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 18:55 GMT
#1100
also no idea about Palmar by the way, didn't even remotely look into it.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 19:03 GMT
#1112
a kush/bf team would mean that outlaw was rerolled, how likely is that? given my interaction with kush and my vote on him just now, how could I bring my scum fellow in a potential wagon situation? rofl
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 19:03 GMT
#1113
how do you associate kush and palmar with me?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 19:03 GMT
#1114
va probably mafia for this shit
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 19:04 GMT
#1116
lynch noon that's it. he did enough to not survive day 1.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 19:05 GMT
#1119
also i reviewed that va/nm thing and I come to the conclusion that my original thought (one of them being mafia) is bullshit. there's no indicator for that and I obviously followed disformation who had this thought first. funny enough, he had it from ritoky who's originally a scumread of mine so wow I should read more details.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 19:07 GMT
#1123
On February 04 2016 09:30 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 09:28 Damdred wrote:
On February 04 2016 09:22 ritoky wrote:
On February 04 2016 09:20 Damdred wrote:
Disf I think you did answer my question in a good manner that's in line with your past reasoning.

Which lends me to think of bad reasoning that dis us town.

Anyeay I thinkim just going to ignore jat today and read him during the night. Maybe if I had a hammer I would do it for lolz but not now.


no quick read on me, have you given up on it?


I have my quick read on you written down.

am trying to focus on scummy things like my hero palmar tells me to.

I think hero is a bit pompous for my taste, I think maybe a "savior" would be better suited for me.

uh-oh palmar, nomen est omen you better not be a tr8tor
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 19:13 GMT
#1131
On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf[ritoky] might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.

This post is good.
On February 04 2016 19:19 Palmar wrote:
ritoky did you ever explain why you have a dumb reason to TR jat?

This post follows up on an inquiry to ritoky. It is good.

On February 04 2016 19:28 Palmar wrote:
I am also somewhat close to starting to try to lynch marv, it's almost noon his time.

On February 04 2016 19:41 Palmar wrote:
I do like how I summoned marv though

This is also good.

On February 04 2016 19:48 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 19:43 marvellosity wrote:
On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.

is it me or does this post not make any sense?

he's pushing ritoky and the fact he's pushing the guy who's posting the most / doing the most stuff actually comes across rather townie to me

?

I ritoky is mafia and conjures up 6 points about a post from disformation, it is unlikely that every single one of them is genuinely disagreeable with bf. For example, he could have written the smiley = joke point off as meh.

It's similar to how mafia tend to way overquote when they build cases because they're trying to paint every single thing scummy, when in reality you usually catch people on one single thing or one post or some other minor subset of their entire filter.

Another follow up on the initial "ritoky is scum because of his shit about disformation" and it is good.

On February 04 2016 19:50 Palmar wrote:
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On February 04 2016 19:49 marvellosity wrote:
carry on with your business, gentlemen.

well what do you think?

Wants marv, gets marv, tries to get marv started, it's good.

On February 04 2016 20:01 Palmar wrote:
bf straight up ignoring me hurts a bit

coming back on me when I ignored one of his questions, this is good.

On February 04 2016 20:05 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2016 20:04 marvellosity wrote:
On February 04 2016 20:02 Palmar wrote:
On February 04 2016 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
On February 04 2016 20:01 ritoky wrote:
marv did you read the thread or just respond to palmar/click his filter?

i've read the thread

you chose the less enlightening option.

Does reading the thread include all of ritoky's big posts?

I've read them in a "my eyes went across all the words" kinda way, yes

so what do you think of ritoky?

comes back to ritoky, doesn't drop it although thread sentiment already dropped the ritoky topic, this is good.


And most interestingly:

On February 04 2016 22:50 Palmar wrote:
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On February 04 2016 22:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:36 Palmar wrote:
technically the "fake afk noted" post should make marv town.

That's also something I have trouble seeing Palmar believe. Yes, he did read and "catch" marv on small things like this before but that post is definitely not something only townmarv would say.

No, why not?

There is a very easy explanation (and there's also a reason I say technically).

When I'm town and marv is mafia, he doesn't like dealing with me. He generally sort of avoids it and tries to take the high road of "i'm always shit early / day 1". There's also a tone thing (which is usually how I catch him, he just sounds off) which often involves him lacking the standard marv sass, if only just slightly.

So when he actually sort of engages with me and questions me, while also remaining sassy enough to fire back a joke like that (it's a reference to me saying the same thing to him earlier in the game), it feels both tonally right and situationally right.

now the problem of course is marv is good at mafia, but seeing as he quit a game recently just because he rolled one, it's super hard for me to believe he'd actually try this game as scum, instead of just trying to afk through a day or two in hopes of picking off players who might get him lynched,.

Do you genuinely believe that this is irrelevant or do you think my explanation is reasonable?


tbh I don't see Palmar being scum for the reasons marv says. But I'm not impressed by marv so far. And Palmar says that marv doesn't like dealing with him, boom, Palmar not here, marv sets up Palmar for the lynch. marv are you scum?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 19:14 GMT
#1134
On February 06 2016 04:07 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:05 boxerfred wrote:
also i reviewed that va/nm thing and I come to the conclusion that my original thought (one of them being mafia) is bullshit. there's no indicator for that and I obviously followed disformation who had this thought first. funny enough, he had it from ritoky who's originally a scumread of mine so wow I should read more details.

This post looks bad. But w.e

oh sorry for correcting myself without having to do it sorry for not misleading town into further discussion about a wrong topic wow koshi get out
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 19:16 GMT
#1139
On February 06 2016 04:15 disformation wrote:
Shennanies onto no vote?^^ xD

What's wrong with you? Read into Palmar/noonian and drop some reads.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 19:19 GMT
#1142
On February 06 2016 04:17 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2016 04:16 boxerfred wrote:
On February 06 2016 04:15 disformation wrote:
Shennanies onto no vote?^^ xD

What's wrong with you? Read into Palmar/noonian and drop some reads.


He already did, and he couldn't read Noon for shit prior tbf.

Do it again then? Look into others?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 19:20 GMT
#1143
I want everyone's reads of noon and palmar and marv
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 19:21 GMT
#1144
I will locate scum among everyone who does not drop a fucking read now
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 20:00 GMT
#1215
marv lol
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 20:00 GMT
#1216
On February 06 2016 05:00 Zyrre wrote:
Voting Palmar for now.

Aaaand scum confirmed
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