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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7456 Posts
February 05 2016 00:57 GMT
#721
Ok, guys I have a confession to make... I may have graduated from the Academy...

I have defected. But you guys can trust me. My dearest friend is, I believe, a Jedi in the making.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
February 05 2016 01:02 GMT
#722
Well, VA is talking meta. Says he wants a lazy D1 and that he discussed named VT to bait someone out. Doesnt seem scummy to me and I have no meta reads.

NM is also hard to read. I dont agree with this though, about bf reads on ritoky/disinfo exchange:
"My only beef with boxerfred is the last part - he's saying "lynch anyway" but the very next sentence says he's going to ignore him and trust someone else's read on him. That's a towny trait to defer to - why BF ignores it or doesn't see it right away - I'm also going to place it under the "bad" category rather than "mafia" since I would think mafia would be a bit more careful about that."

I felt like ritoky was leaving it open to lynch disinfo at any opportunity, regardless of alignment as he said. Cant see why that is towny play.

Not saying ritoky is scummy, after reading his later posts I actually think he is more town. Still doesnt make NM's reasoning better though.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 05 2016 01:57 GMT
#723
Yea i'm also having trouble getting a read worth a damn with NM and VA. I'm unfamiliar with this style of play from VA so I don't have strong feelings either way so far. I don't think VA is silly enough to actually suggest having the named VT reveal on D1, but I don't understand what he means by lazy D1... Null

I haven't been a fan of Koshi's posting so far tbh. A 4 page filter after 1/2 of D1 with lots of one sentence "cheeky" answers (like his ass rebuttal of NM's semi-case against him with ritoky) just seems a little too glib for my taste. He also doesn't explain his pro Zyrre read either. Maybe koshi's just trololing like the PYP game, but in that game he was quite clear from the start that the setup was the reason he was taking it not seriously, which doesn't really hold water here.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 05 2016 02:08 GMT
#724
I am here. 3am here and everyone in the house is asleep. Finally I have a few hours to play this game proper.

Just started reading and catching up again, I want to talk about Koshi, and I see DF's beat me to the punch.

When I saw his response to me, he scumread it for being long winded. I saw no specifics from him, I would have expected more considering bf went on about ritoky and he townread bf (quote, I forget the post reference but offhand "bf is town bro" or something) and I mean he went on.

As for long winded, it was a progression. How did he get from point A to point B was what I was asking.

I felt it was important to ask that because I get information from that and furthermore he didn't answer the question either.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 05 2016 02:19 GMT
#725
On February 05 2016 02:57 Koshi wrote:
ritoky is Damdred mafia?


On February 05 2016 03:04 Koshi wrote:
Damdred his posts have been really bad. Holy mozes.


This also has me scratching my head. I read his filter and this is not the impression I'm getting at all.

Looking for further interactions with him:

On February 05 2016 08:09 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 07:59 Damdred wrote:
Honestly rit it is a bit of policy concerning one. He hasn't done anything to be town read as of yet and yeah.

As for va I think he's town, the meta he used he has done before and it's somewhat true but I am aware of it. Either way I do think va is town.

My biggest problem as well. Normally you can just read it in the tone of his posts.


On February 05 2016 08:10 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 08:05 Damdred wrote:
That zyrre post is so bad for so many reasons

It actually isn't. I can see him believe that. I can believe it.


I read for context too and I can't understand these after he's clearly saying his posts are bad. Is (from Koshi's perspective) Damdred bad or mafia?

The last quote is a stretch but he's not even using that to find out Damdred's alignment.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 05 2016 02:19 GMT
#726
EBWOP: I read Damdred's filter and this is not the impression I'm getting at all.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
February 05 2016 02:35 GMT
#727
I think atm you are doing what HTS does when she is mafia, NM - directionless rambling. Are you going to call Koshi mafia or what? If so please make a case with a few short bullet points as to why.

No questions, no summarizing of what Koshi did just your read on Koshi with the specific reason for it as short as possible. Because from your posts I can't distinguish between the things which you think are scummy and things which don't match your expectations of how Koshi should play.

If you have more scumreads do the same for them.

Good night.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 05 2016 02:38 GMT
#728
Reading more filters....

On February 05 2016 01:59 darthfoley wrote:
@Rels, and a tiny bit of Koshi shade

I think you're reading too much into a few cheeky posts at the beginning of the game. Nothing was really going on by that point, so I didn't feel the need to be super serious. I'm just not understanding why you aren't holding others to this similar standard of scum indicativeness; Zyrre, who made the "woo i'm town" post hasn't posted since and only NM seems to notice. He's also EU time which makes it even more sus imo. Not sure why other people can post shit memes and make jokes, but when I say "roger Gold leader" in a Star Wars themed game early D1, you scum read me for it. I literally said "i am here guyzzz"... like why would I ever be so literal in my phrasing if I were mafia?

This whole poke on me seems a little overzealous to me. I understand probing, but this is pointless. When I say that I'll be back in some hours, but still make a post, I simply don't have the time to make in depth posts or filter dive, but I have enough time (~5 minutes) to defend myself from rather toothless accusations.

@Koshi I appreciate your compliment. I hope I will continue to impress later, when I have time to actually analyze interactions in a meaningful way. Put me in, coach.


On February 05 2016 05:33 darthfoley wrote:
Idk I find it perhaps a little suspect that bf (kinda), ritoky and damdred have all defended me already, using variations of the experience card to help me. I especially find it ironic, because if I were to use the defense, I would be immediately scum read. I think i'm a fairly obvious pocket opportunity for experienced mafia, so i'm particularly wary when a bunch of vets start defending me off the bat from rather average pokes by Rels. It just seems off.


Darth, do you have an actual read on Rels?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 05 2016 02:40 GMT
#729
On February 05 2016 11:35 justanothertownie wrote:
I think atm you are doing what HTS does when she is mafia, NM - directionless rambling. Are you going to call Koshi mafia or what? If so please make a case with a few short bullet points as to why.

No questions, no summarizing of what Koshi did just your read on Koshi with the specific reason for it as short as possible. Because from your posts I can't distinguish between the things which you think are scummy and things which don't match your expectations of how Koshi should play.

If you have more scumreads do the same for them.

Good night.


Fair question, I am going through filters and coming up with a town circle/do not lynch list today. And the reason I haven't put my vote on Koshi yet is because I've been out of thread for awhile - I want to make sure I am not missing someone that I think will be a better lynch.

If I had to put my vote on someone now, gun to my head, it'd be Koshi.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
February 05 2016 03:07 GMT
#730
(FYI, I am still here. I am reading filters, and I am reading filters from other games for both Palmar and Koshi. I expect to be here for another 2h from the time of this post until about 6am. So if anyone is around, please talk.)
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
February 05 2016 03:07 GMT
#731
On February 05 2016 11:38 NocturneMage wrote:
Reading more filters....

Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 01:59 darthfoley wrote:
@Rels, and a tiny bit of Koshi shade

I think you're reading too much into a few cheeky posts at the beginning of the game. Nothing was really going on by that point, so I didn't feel the need to be super serious. I'm just not understanding why you aren't holding others to this similar standard of scum indicativeness; Zyrre, who made the "woo i'm town" post hasn't posted since and only NM seems to notice. He's also EU time which makes it even more sus imo. Not sure why other people can post shit memes and make jokes, but when I say "roger Gold leader" in a Star Wars themed game early D1, you scum read me for it. I literally said "i am here guyzzz"... like why would I ever be so literal in my phrasing if I were mafia?

This whole poke on me seems a little overzealous to me. I understand probing, but this is pointless. When I say that I'll be back in some hours, but still make a post, I simply don't have the time to make in depth posts or filter dive, but I have enough time (~5 minutes) to defend myself from rather toothless accusations.

@Koshi I appreciate your compliment. I hope I will continue to impress later, when I have time to actually analyze interactions in a meaningful way. Put me in, coach.


Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 05:33 darthfoley wrote:
Idk I find it perhaps a little suspect that bf (kinda), ritoky and damdred have all defended me already, using variations of the experience card to help me. I especially find it ironic, because if I were to use the defense, I would be immediately scum read. I think i'm a fairly obvious pocket opportunity for experienced mafia, so i'm particularly wary when a bunch of vets start defending me off the bat from rather average pokes by Rels. It just seems off.


Darth, do you have an actual read on Rels?


Yea i'm town reading Rels right now. I think that he has been quite pro-active, probing to make people flesh out their reads more. I was kind of annoyed with him for his pressure on me, but I think it came from town POV who was looking to pressure, what he considered, a scummy entrance.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
February 05 2016 03:19 GMT
#732
On February 04 2016 08:02 disformation wrote:
Sup fellows.
present and accounted for.

good news for NM and MD: I am probably not going to shoot one of you N1. probably.

w0w such bm
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
February 05 2016 03:21 GMT
#733
On February 04 2016 08:12 nooniansoong wrote:
yo watsup im town. im going to be voting exclusively for plynches day 1 and 2. That's my new strategy. If you don't like it you can lynch me.
##vote mooseydoosey

LMAO HE LEARNED QUICKLY
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
February 05 2016 03:31 GMT
#734
Do any of you read Russian Fiction
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
February 05 2016 03:34 GMT
#735
On February 04 2016 12:34 NocturneMage wrote:
yo....

up a bit late but let's see what I can get out of the first few pages before I crash

page 9/10

Zyrre - says he's town in the opening salve and then apparently bails. Don't know the guy, seems new to the forums. He could have gotten something of the rest of page 9 or at least something behind but didn't. For now a light scum lean. Contrast that with marvellosity who just checked in and I got a "whatever" vibe from him. Mind you it's late for both of them, so IDK.

ritoky I'm feeling town from the way he's interrogating disformation.

The Damdred/disformation interaction appears based on meta - I will defer to something else to read them (I don't like using meta I'm not sure of).

Don't have good reads on either Palmar/Noon/DF pages 9/10.

Koshi's behaviour through page 11 can come from either alignment.

Don't like VayneAuthority's post 238 asking Damdred's methodology. Why can't he just separate the pre-game whatever and judge what Damdred has actually done? Seems a bit forced there.

No good read on JAT either. Latter is saying he wants to hang back on day 1. Reactive games are usually a scum tell for someone I don't know that well, but he's not new either it seems. Not sure if this is his normal meta.

yesss was looking for u )))))))))
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
February 05 2016 03:35 GMT
#736
ok now i go afk goodfbye
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
February 05 2016 03:49 GMT
#737
i lie i have liek town reads and scum reads lolol
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 05 2016 04:22 GMT
#738
On February 05 2016 10:02 Zyrre wrote:
Well, VA is talking meta. Says he wants a lazy D1 and that he discussed named VT to bait someone out. Doesnt seem scummy to me and I have no meta reads.

NM is also hard to read. I dont agree with this though, about bf reads on ritoky/disinfo exchange:
"My only beef with boxerfred is the last part - he's saying "lynch anyway" but the very next sentence says he's going to ignore him and trust someone else's read on him. That's a towny trait to defer to - why BF ignores it or doesn't see it right away - I'm also going to place it under the "bad" category rather than "mafia" since I would think mafia would be a bit more careful about that."

I felt like ritoky was leaving it open to lynch disinfo at any opportunity, regardless of alignment as he said. Cant see why that is towny play.

Not saying ritoky is scummy, after reading his later posts I actually think he is more town. Still doesnt make NM's reasoning better though.


which posts? what did i do?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 05 2016 04:25 GMT
#739
On February 05 2016 12:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i lie i have liek town reads and scum reads lolol


useful. as always.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
February 05 2016 04:27 GMT
#740
On February 05 2016 12:07 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 11:38 NocturneMage wrote:
Reading more filters....

On February 05 2016 01:59 darthfoley wrote:
@Rels, and a tiny bit of Koshi shade

I think you're reading too much into a few cheeky posts at the beginning of the game. Nothing was really going on by that point, so I didn't feel the need to be super serious. I'm just not understanding why you aren't holding others to this similar standard of scum indicativeness; Zyrre, who made the "woo i'm town" post hasn't posted since and only NM seems to notice. He's also EU time which makes it even more sus imo. Not sure why other people can post shit memes and make jokes, but when I say "roger Gold leader" in a Star Wars themed game early D1, you scum read me for it. I literally said "i am here guyzzz"... like why would I ever be so literal in my phrasing if I were mafia?

This whole poke on me seems a little overzealous to me. I understand probing, but this is pointless. When I say that I'll be back in some hours, but still make a post, I simply don't have the time to make in depth posts or filter dive, but I have enough time (~5 minutes) to defend myself from rather toothless accusations.

@Koshi I appreciate your compliment. I hope I will continue to impress later, when I have time to actually analyze interactions in a meaningful way. Put me in, coach.


On February 05 2016 05:33 darthfoley wrote:
Idk I find it perhaps a little suspect that bf (kinda), ritoky and damdred have all defended me already, using variations of the experience card to help me. I especially find it ironic, because if I were to use the defense, I would be immediately scum read. I think i'm a fairly obvious pocket opportunity for experienced mafia, so i'm particularly wary when a bunch of vets start defending me off the bat from rather average pokes by Rels. It just seems off.


Darth, do you have an actual read on Rels?


Yea i'm town reading Rels right now. I think that he has been quite pro-active, probing to make people flesh out their reads more. I was kind of annoyed with him for his pressure on me, but I think it came from town POV who was looking to pressure, what he considered, a scummy entrance.


no offense but i don't really want to know your town reads. tell me who is potentially mafia and why.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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