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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 13:29 GMT
#920
On February 05 2016 06:55 nooniansoong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 02:25 Rels wrote:
On February 05 2016 02:08 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:59 marvellosity wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:50 Koshi wrote:
On February 04 2016 22:45 Rels wrote:
On February 04 2016 19:35 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 04 2016 19:31 Koshi wrote:
##vote Kush

Best lynch by far.


I'm not a bad lynch

Could scum post that ? It's soooooooo scummy that I'm kinda thinking it's town indicative. Like, kush does nothing for 10 hours; comes back with this post; then GTFO. Scum are generally trying to be more careful with their posts.

Kush plays bold as mafia. This post makes him more likely mafia.

not sure it makes him more likely mafia, but i definitely don't think it's townpoints either


agree. my shitty attitude this game has nothing to do with my alignment.
Anyway I don't think I play bold as scum. In my last scumgame I opened with a shitcase on vayne or something. Usually I'll give some effort to look townie day 1 before I completely stop giving a fuck by day 2.

Here is a quote from you from Outlaw mafia:
On January 13 2016 02:38 nooniansoong wrote:
The benefit is people make arguments like you're making and base your scumread on it.

Shit players like me and onegu do that as scum sometimes. Just do something that makes no sense. Its a lot easier than making content that looks townie.

Explain ?


I will usually start off playing a more standard scum game, then I'll try to do some bold stuff to make up for my lack of actvity.
So d1 = standard. d2+ = bold.

But this game is under special circumstances, so I'm not arguing that you should be townreading me. Because I could easily do this as scum. IN fact if I were scum this game, I'd probably be playing exactly how I'm playing now.

Nevertheless, I'll defend myself.
1 There are probably people who have put less effort than even me into this game. You might want to lynch them instead of me.
2 There is a slight possibility that d2 or 3 I will start to care. The caveat to this is that I will still be pretty useless because I'll have no idea what's going on.


This is so bad.

1) gives a feeling of "lazy scum". "Hey guys, lynch the afk'ers. I mean, yes, you could lynch me, but there are still the
afk'ers."

2) "slight possibility I will start to care"? At this point, if you're town, I want you to play for your fucking win condition. Which means, a) read the thread and WORK, or b), replace the fuck out.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 13:32 GMT
#922
On February 05 2016 22:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 22:24 boxerfred wrote:
Also I don't count Kush among the lurkers/inactives, amirite?

Well, Kush is posting and not contributing. Basically the same as chezinu according to your logic. Same goes for moosy.
The only hardcore lurker is Onegu.

Give me a second. I'm on page 35. I'm not liking Kush even a tiny bit (see my latest post). Don't pin me down on that "who'd you prefer" thing, I don't really see the sense of that question. I'd prefer to lynch a scum member over an inactive one (especially since Onegu said in this and in the other game he's in that he's ill (afaik, might confuse something) so I believe him).
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 13:33 GMT
#923
On February 05 2016 08:06 ritoky wrote:
my town is something like: ritoky, rels, jat, disfo, darth
maybe town is like: damdred, marv, koshi, kush
fuck you is: boxerfred

and i think there's probably a mafia between VA and NM.

wow almost missed this gem. can I put this in my tl sig?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 13:35 GMT
#925
Zyrre is kinda hard to get a grip on. Feels like "minimum activity scum" tbh, such a small filter, and only picking up things that have been said already. Can also be lazy town pretending to have read the thread.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 13:36 GMT
#926
On February 05 2016 08:10 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 08:05 Damdred wrote:
That zyrre post is so bad for so many reasons

I got parroting, looks constructed and pushing/scum reading the most convenient target in noon. Also the timing of that post + lotsa excuses. Did I miss something?

Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 08:06 ritoky wrote:
my town is something like: ritoky, rels, jat, disfo, darth
maybe town is like: damdred, marv, koshi, kush
fuck you is: boxerfred

and i think there's probably a mafia between VA and NM.

Gut agrees with one scum between VA and NM. Head can't figure out which one is more likely.

Can you guys (ritoky, disformation) elaborate on why there is one scum between VA and NM?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 13:37 GMT
#927
On February 05 2016 08:12 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 08:09 darthfoley wrote:
On February 05 2016 08:05 Damdred wrote:
That zyrre post is so bad for so many reasons


enlighten us


The post is cherry picking things to make people look bad in a simplistic way.

For w ample when he looks at me he takes my first post of the day and acts like I have no reads after that? Why do I have to talk about town reads specifically.

The Ritoky scum lean is also bad because it's over simplistic approach to how Ritojy is handling the game just isn't true. Rit has been pressuring people and giving space to some etc. To say what he did is just a misconception

And kush feels like low hanging fruit at this point and the thread is going against him.

Overall it doesn't feel like he's really read the thread in context

I totally agree with this except the ritoky part. I feel like he's getting away too easy from my points. Kush being the top lynchbait currently makes sense, yep, but I'm wondering why noone jumped on him easily if he's town. I mean, scum could easily push him now.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 13:40 GMT
#928
On February 05 2016 22:36 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 08:10 disformation wrote:
On February 05 2016 08:05 Damdred wrote:
That zyrre post is so bad for so many reasons

I got parroting, looks constructed and pushing/scum reading the most convenient target in noon. Also the timing of that post + lotsa excuses. Did I miss something?

On February 05 2016 08:06 ritoky wrote:
my town is something like: ritoky, rels, jat, disfo, darth
maybe town is like: damdred, marv, koshi, kush
fuck you is: boxerfred

and i think there's probably a mafia between VA and NM.

Gut agrees with one scum between VA and NM. Head can't figure out which one is more likely.

Can you guys (ritoky, disformation) elaborate on why there is one scum between VA and NM?


Okay, seen ritoky:

On February 05 2016 08:21 ritoky wrote:
idk i have never been town in a game with NM in it. i guess i expected him to be more compelling and i am thus far underwhelmed.

On February 05 2016 08:22 ritoky wrote:
plus their fighting just doesn't feel like town v town. it's not super tunnely, it's not shitfighting, it's not full of conviction...it just lacks that edge of someone who is married to a terrible read fighting with someone for a clearly dogshit reason.

hm. not sure if those are good or bad explanations.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 13:43 GMT
#929
p37 MoosyDoosy makes me want to puke
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 13:43 GMT
#930
okay. chez, md, and kush should replace the fuck out of this game.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 13:44 GMT
#931
they play clearly against town win condition which makes them scum.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 13:46 GMT
#934
On February 05 2016 14:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
VayneAuthority
Onegu
Koshi

And we have our Mafia

##Vote: VayneAuthority

afaik we have four mafia
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 13:46 GMT
#935
On February 05 2016 22:45 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 22:44 boxerfred wrote:
they play clearly against town win condition which makes them scum.

no it doesn't.

and you should know better than to think that

I know but I'm pissed at this shit
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 13:48 GMT
#936
On February 05 2016 14:50 Damdred wrote:
Surprised you and nm didn't catch it playing the game.

moosey scum team is va, oneg and koshi.

Ehats wrong with that team

yeah
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 13:49 GMT
#938
stopping on page 42 since chez and md's shit makes me want to puke. Don't want to play this game now.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 13:50 GMT
#939
would vote chezino, nooniansong, ritoky
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 13:53 GMT
#942
On February 05 2016 22:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 22:49 boxerfred wrote:
stopping on page 42 since chez and md's shit makes me want to puke. Don't want to play this game now.

A little over the top, don't you think?

no. I failed at my last two or three games early on since I haven't had time. Now this happens. I'd love to vote for MD/Chez and I can isntantly pop up questions like "why those guys now, why not ritoky, why not kush?" those guys ruin the game. No way Onegu, Chez, MD, Kush are all mafia. So every single townie among those four should get the fuck out of this game.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 13:54 GMT
#944
On February 05 2016 22:53 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 22:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On February 05 2016 22:49 boxerfred wrote:
stopping on page 42 since chez and md's shit makes me want to puke. Don't want to play this game now.

A little over the top, don't you think?

especially from a player who occasionally does less than nothing as town himself.......

oh, same goes for scum, check my last scum game.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 13:54 GMT
#945
really, fuck those four people, bye.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 14:15 GMT
#954
I should elaborate. Just had a cigarette, calmed down a bit.


Basically, the way Chezinu and Moosy approach this game pisses me off. Given that nooniansong also seems to not give a fuck makes me re-think if I really want to put in the (little) time I already have in those games. I signed up for this game to have fun and participate a lot. Contrary to my latest games, I've fully read the thread despite rolling town which I normally do not like that much. I tend to not put any effort into the game if I am town, instead I go really low and don't watch the thread too closely. I do not have a problem with low activity players but I do have a problem with people that just screw up the thread. I can't believe that all four of Onegu, Chezinu, MoosyDoosy and nooniansong are mafia. However, Chezinu's and MD's posting styles make it really hard for me to stay calm and analyze shit. My case on ritoky might've not been the best one, but it was solid. The kind of one-liner conversation that we mainly had in the last 25 pages is something that I think does not bring town on a good way to find scum.

So, to stay constructive, I'd even refrain from my ritoky case now and leave it standing. People can bring that up later in the game. I strongly recommend to lynch between Chezinu, nooniansong, MoosyDoosy and Onegu, and I'd actually add Koshi to that list since I have the impression that he doesn't do much for town.

Among those four (five) players, nooniansong is the obvious lynch target. Bad defence, no contribution for town. Same goes for Moosy and Chez, those guys even derail the thread into plain bullshit. Onegue, while being sick (which I believe), is someone who I can hardly read anyways. MoosyDoosy has his dumbtell of 3 vs. 4 mafia going for him, can't see this guy actually pulling this play as scum. So there's Chezinu and nooniansong left. Well, nooniansong should IMHO, if he's town, indeed replace the fuck out of this game, while I don't feel that Chez will be usefull anytime soon.

Given that I agree on ritoky's/disformation's idea of one scum between NocturneMage and VayneAuthority, I feel like we should lynch one of them and shoot the other one at night. NM vs. Vayne didn't feel like town on town. Especially NM felt forced, his arguments weren't too good. However I liked his later explanations of them.

So. I'd say we lynch nooniansong. He's the "most likely to be mafia" player of all in my eyes. Chez is not worth a vig shot (yet), I'd rather use the vig shot to kill NM or Vayne. I'd prefer to lynch NM and shoot Vayne or the other way around.

Oh yeah, and I still haven't read 42+.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 05 2016 14:18 GMT
#957
On February 05 2016 20:52 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 20:47 justanothertownie wrote:
There are very few townreads I am married to if any. People be scummy or not playing.

well, it's just like. at the start i liked bf's zeal in going after ritoky. i can't tell if the continuing certainty is quite warranted, and if it's not warranted, i'm not sure that's scummy, but it's a little something.

kinda raised my eyebrow at him bringing up him being shot and ritoky looking bad. that's kinda a level or two too much for what's going on between them. again, could be pretty zealous town or mafia making too much out of that whole read

also i feel his treatment of disinformation is a little weird. like he's SO CERTAIN THAT he's town, SO EARLY AND CONSISTENTLY. saying he has "huge amounts of town cred" and also a post where he says he's "surprised disfo isn't here". Why? Why is he surprised? Should he be there at all times? Does it matter if he's not there if boxerfred is heavily townreading him?

It's just kinda odd tbh.


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