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On February 16 2016 09:55 disformation wrote:Thank god this is over. It is really hard to try and solve the game multiple days in a row, where nothing is happening and it did not matter that much because in the end the game solved itself. -.- If ppl have post game advise or stuff, you are welcome to hit me with that.  I liked doing that VCA stuff and think I had some good points with that (well after my first bad attempt at it). Was also happy to find that koshi <> noon association later on. Early game was my usual waffle a ton, find a TR to sheep game plan, but that also worked out. Still need to be way more confident, when I actually find stuff. I also had tons of fun with being able to figure out a few of Chez's posts, I feel other ppl had way more trouble with that. Balance wasn't too bad imo, but I somehow felt the night actions were screwing town over really hard. Got a bit salty over that.
Balance would have been fine with 1 KP less for mafia.
You played a really good game and were universally townread all game. I don't know where your problem is. In fact most of the townies played really well. Boxerfreds play was WAY improved this game, Rels and NM had very strong performances etc. etc.
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You played really well disf I can't say where you played badly you thought logically and would of won today either way imo
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Lol at Damdred's comment about me and same with JAT regarding my alignment lol.................
BTW HTS before Dark Tournament I did play with James(Fedii) in two games. One was Himalayas(I don't want to remember this game >.<) and the other was Season of the Witch 2.
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Also dis I did thought you were obvious town this game so good job on that!
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Also NM for MVP of the game he pretty much nailed the entire team Day 1.
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On February 16 2016 10:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Also NM for MVP of the game he pretty much nailed the entire team Day 1.
nah, cheers for the sentiment, but the town collectively played well, I think most of the town worked fine together, I mean towards the end of day 1 after I read a bunch of filters, I had reasons to think some people were mafia but there was no way I could get certain people lynched day 1.
my day 1 was 50% inactive because of real life and two of my scumreads I couldn't interact with, I just couldn't be in the thread at the same time they were so it was really hard for me to actually illustrate why they were mafia.
and yeah LS, I just have a rough time reading you but I was explained after Dark Tournament on how to appropriately read you. like in Dark Tournament I felt you were posting just to post, but you seem to be more townie when you interact with others. it's hard to articulate properly but I think I know what to look for now with you.
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wait, you are apparently the one who threw Himalayas, right?
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On February 16 2016 10:21 NocturneMage wrote:
wait, you are apparently the one who threw Himalayas, right?
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i have to say, that coaching in the newbie games has helped my town game significantly. for those who haven't or don't do it, they should. and when you do coach you should really try and impart as much as you can and pay a lot of attention. coaching has helped me differentiate lynch bait/bad play from mafia at an alarmingly high and successful rate. it also gets you little inside tells on certain players (darth and rels for me).
basically you should coach newbie games if you're up for it because there's tons of benefits.
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On February 16 2016 10:21 NocturneMage wrote:
wait, you are apparently the one who threw Himalayas, right?
Ugh yes that why I want to forget that game 
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On February 16 2016 09:55 justanothertownie wrote:
I feel bad for VA. Only mafia who played a decent game and he is the one getting owned by a questionable claim.
#rekt
its cool though, the one night i had complete control of mafia actions I rekt even if it didnt matter at all :D
and GG well hosted by hosts and well played by the town, a seriously hard town to play against. Im pretty sure thats my first time being lynched as mafia ever on this website.
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On February 16 2016 10:32 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2016 09:55 justanothertownie wrote:
I feel bad for VA. Only mafia who played a decent game and he is the one getting owned by a questionable claim.
#rekt its cool though, the one night i had complete control of mafia actions I rekt even if it didnt matter at all :D and GG well hosted by hosts and well played by the town, a seriously hard town to play against. Im pretty sure thats my first time being lynched as mafia ever on this website.
Yeah, was a bit waffly on you until that claim/check came along. Also as I said before: night actions wrecked town quite a bit outside that one check.
and yeah thanks to all the hosts. <3
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On February 16 2016 10:32 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2016 09:55 justanothertownie wrote:
I feel bad for VA. Only mafia who played a decent game and he is the one getting owned by a questionable claim.
#rekt its cool though, the one night i had complete control of mafia actions I rekt even if it didnt matter at all :D and GG well hosted by hosts and well played by the town, a seriously hard town to play against. Im pretty sure thats my first time being lynched as mafia ever on this website.
Pretty sure you got lynched in YOSO bro :p
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agreed with the disformation comments - I thought you really stepped it up late game and you were pretty obviously town early on, even if you tunnelled the shit out of me day 1. several others in day 3 and after also showed some fairly obvious town tells.
chezinu....I don't know I don't really understand his playstyle, until he started breadcrumbing his checks, he was difficult to read.
so disformation, keep it up, hopefully we'll roll another one as town together.
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naw VA or NM was always scum cuz of how they was fighting early on, wasn't town v town kinda fighting, i just thought it was NM before VA cuz he was defending me so hard which creeped me out 
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On February 16 2016 10:43 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2016 10:32 VayneAuthority wrote:On February 16 2016 09:55 justanothertownie wrote:
I feel bad for VA. Only mafia who played a decent game and he is the one getting owned by a questionable claim.
#rekt its cool though, the one night i had complete control of mafia actions I rekt even if it didnt matter at all :D and GG well hosted by hosts and well played by the town, a seriously hard town to play against. Im pretty sure thats my first time being lynched as mafia ever on this website. Pretty sure you got lynched in YOSO bro :p
oh yea you're right. day 9 lynch what a brutal fucking game lol
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LS - Rels saved marv night 1, disformation night 2, chez night 3
I had trouble deciding n1 between va and koshi to track that night. I switched 3-4 times. 2259 I settle on va.
looks like I'd have gotten a result on koshi too reading the mafia qt, though. damn. afterwards it was you, but regardless it'd have been a smattering of you/md/boxerfred/chez depending on how I felt.
regardless even as vt, I'd have been pushing both va and koshi pretty hard.
chez from his checks checked disformation night 1, then he was roleblocked either night 2 or night 3 but the night he wasn't roleblocked he checked disformation. I can't tell from his posts. I don't understand chez-speak lol.
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On February 16 2016 10:49 ritoky wrote:naw VA or NM was always scum cuz of how they was fighting early on, wasn't town v town kinda fighting, i just thought it was NM before VA cuz he was defending me so hard which creeped me out
didn't realise that was purely scummy...I've seen town try and defend someone they were absolutely sure of too.
someone else pointed out (forget whether it was in obs or the thread) that va dropped his scumread on me at odd times. really odd times. and then some of us saw how a decent chunk of his pushes weren't going anywhere, even Noon had a nice case on him end of day 2 I think.
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On February 16 2016 10:47 NocturneMage wrote:
agreed with the disformation comments - I thought you really stepped it up late game and you were pretty obviously town early on, even if you tunnelled the shit out of me day 1. several others in day 3 and after also showed some fairly obvious town tells.
chezinu....I don't know I don't really understand his playstyle, until he started breadcrumbing his checks, he was difficult to read.
so disformation, keep it up, hopefully we'll roll another one as town together.
ty <3.
TBH I don't really regret that D1 tunnel on you, I like to make sure ppl are town before sheeping them. 
Part of that tunnel was the fear you were trying to get a very good town player and potential threat out of the game right of the bat, you know after seeing Palmar getting 7/8 scummers in PYP.
Good thing Palmar decided to do jack all. xD
There was also one comment by VA that helped me reconsider. xD
Only was 100% tinfoil free regarding you, after you flipped. xD
I think I overall work fairly good with VCA and association stuff because that feels like hard evidence. Still struggling hard to see goals/motivation behinds posts when I read filters and I don't like using meta on ppl I haven't played with much, but stuff like:
"the timing + reason for that vote look really bad" or "confirmed scum was pushing player x all day" make tons of sense to me.
So dunno. Try to form a town circle D1, sheep someone, doing VCA and association later might be my playstyle or something. xD
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