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MoosyDoosy
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LightningStrike
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marvellosity
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Whatever you guys do, lynch koshi tomorrow. Don't get distracted. He is 100% mafia. Do that and then figure the rest out. | ||
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disformation
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On February 10 2016 07:29 LightningStrike wrote: Also dis what you wanted to talk to me about? Just had a spontaneous bout of "hey LS hasn't posted in a while, I want him to do stuff so I can figure out his alignment".  | ||
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disformation
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On February 10 2016 07:41 marvellosity wrote: Gonna shower and stuff. Probs not back before deadline. Whatever you guys do, lynch koshi tomorrow. Don't get distracted. He is 100% mafia. Do that and then figure the rest out. roger. *salutes* | ||
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Chezinu
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Please don't hurt me Kylo, what would Mr. Solo think? | ||
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marvellosity
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Chezinu
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On February 10 2016 07:43 marvellosity wrote: Ps I think ls is town PSPS: I think Chez is town and so did ritoky. | ||
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Rels
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On February 10 2016 07:40 MoosyDoosy wrote: Hey Rels, I may or may not experiencing with NM what I had to go through with you. (= | ||
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Rels
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On February 10 2016 07:44 Chezinu wrote: PSPS: I think Chez is town and so did ritoky. You're funny. (= | ||
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Chezinu
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LightningStrike
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On February 10 2016 07:42 disformation wrote: Just had a spontaneous bout of "hey LS hasn't posted in a while, I want him to do stuff so I can figure out his alignment". Okay I will. | ||
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Chezinu
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disformation
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On February 10 2016 07:47 Chezinu wrote: If I die tonight, know everything I said was pretty random.... almost. Also, Koshi started it. Nah, don't worry scum should shoot me over you. Or I'll just protect you with my body. | ||
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LightningStrike
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On February 10 2016 07:43 marvellosity wrote: Ps I think ls is town <3 you | ||
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disformation
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Chezinu
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NocturneMage
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marvellosity - duh Rels - duh disformation - duh Nooniansoong (same reasons cited by Marv, Koshi pushing hard for his lynch/similar scumreads as myself plus rationale to arrive at them) Pretty Sure He's Town (Only Lynch in a 2:1 lylo situation) darthfoley - wrong side of the Day 1 lynch, but pretty invested day 1, pretty substantial arguments days 1 and 3 Give Him More Time To Show Himself as Town LightningStrike - From experience with him in Dark Tournament, I found his town playstyle very scummy, I remember Rels and a few others correcting me on how to read him. I want to see him make more substantial reads on finding the two remaining mafia between Chez/BF/VA/Moosy. That should give you an answer I think. Gut Call - Town boxerfred - There's a few tells on his end and there's a few peripheral things I'm seeing. Things I don't like about him - the self-meta, the vote day 1. (If Palmar had flipped vig, he'd look significantly worse I would say.) For someone who might struggle as town, his response to me regarding Moosy's vote makes sense. Having mislynched him in Firefly, I can see the reasons his towngame might not be great if he's afk; in Firefly boxerfred was scumreading me all game for really dumb things, so it's very believable he's not focusing on the right things as town. Peripheral things - he's on a LOT of people's scumlists and most concerningly, he's on the scumlist of my two top scumreads (Koshi aside). Now I realise the last is unflipped association, but my remaining top scumreads have nothing townie about them - and I would lynch them any day above boxerfred. God Help Us All Chezinu - The two things Chezinu has going for him if I had to get ANYTHING from his filter - ignoring meta is that (1) he's not playing to survive - that "don't give a fuck" attitude and (2) he's on too many scumlists, particularly my scumreads. Even then I've been very frustrated with his Day 1 vote for God knows what reason and not making any sense with any of his reads, why he says certain reads are "interesting" MoosyDoosy - Get Your Red Flags Up - Probable Scum (1) Voting Analysis - Solo vote/off wagon (2) Repeated question dodging (3) Point taken from Nooniansoong - constant second guessing of his reads 99% Scum - Koshi - LYNCH HIM WITH FIRE DAY 4 (1) Voting Analysis - Made the vote to save flipped scum Palmar before Damdred switched again (2) Directionless reads on DF/Damdred/ritoky Day 1 (3) No followup on a scumread on me Day 1 (4) General scumclaim conversation with marvellosity Day 2 as Palmar was getting autolynched (5) Burnt out quip - in of itself it's not alignment indicative but taken with everything else it is 1000% SCUM - VAYNE AUTHORITY - LYNCH HIM WITH FIRE DAY 3 (1) Voting Analysis - Early vote on Palmar for towncred, lack of substantiation or investment in the lynch, points on Palmar were made (a) unrelated to the key arguments for this game and well after I meta-cased him. (2) Overall lack of direction/reads Days 1 and 2 - in particular you need to really read his filter. Look for lack of followup on me, DF, disformation and one other player. (3) Point from marvellosity - "post-hoc" explanation for reaction test. (4) Playing for survival/cruising on his town meta - just look at his day 2/night 2 responses to me - "this is my town meta". Both Nooniansoong and ritoky have called him on reasons he's mafia. (5) The "how did he know I was a good player" issue? I've never played with him. How would he know? (6) The Intangible - Finally, you've just got to trust me with this read. IF I DIE THIS NIGHT PHASE, VA IS CONFIRMED MAFIA. I AM NOT INSANE. THERE IS A REASON I AM SAYING THIS. ANYONE WHO CAN THINK A MODICUM OUTSIDE THE BOX SHOULD REALISE WHY I'VE BEEN PUSHING HIM HARD. I HAVEN'T STOPPED AFTER DAY 1. YES KOSHI IS MAFIA. BUT PLEASE LYNCH VAYNE AUTHORITY BEFORE KOSHI. IF I DIE, THAT SHOULD BE EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW. DO NOT LET HIM TALK YOU OUT OF IT. JUST DO IT!!!!!!!! | ||
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Rels
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BUT DONT FORGET BF. HE S SCUM. If I die please take the time to either read my case: + Show Spoiler + On February 10 2016 07:16 Rels wrote: BF is scum: a tell of dumb 1 + Show Spoiler + On February 08 2016 02:41 Rels wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/aoQJm6p.jpg) BF, there is a scum vig role. It was talked about in thread so I have no idea how you could miss it. 24 hours ago, BF made the "dumbtell" of not knowing there was a scum vig, when it was talked about at length at some point before. I reminded it to him. 2 24 hours later, BFmakes a post talking about the fact that there is three kills. He completely forgets the scum vig that I mentioned to him previously. We can be sure that he forgets it because he says "bad bad vig shot or did I miss stuff?", so either he doesn't remember there is a scum vig, or he's faking it. This is the first point as to why BF is scum: how can he forget there is a scum vig when I mention it to him 24 hours ago ? Furthermore, the open question "did I miss stuff ?" is an invitation to being corrected. Scum is likely to do that to (1) make a dumbtell, proving they are not scum 'cause they wouldn't forget that, and (2) that let him discuss with people, bringing activity. 3 BF says he didn't forget that there is a scum vig, that he simply didn't mention him to focus on the town vig. This is a lie. As seen in point 2, BF either forgot about scum vig, or faked it. It's not possible the sentence "bad bad vig shot or did I miss stuff?" is made with a scum vig in mind. It shows BF is scum because lie = scum. 4 BF finally admits he forgot abuot the scum vig. This is a lie, because in the posts quoted in point 3 he argueed he actually didn't forget to explain his behaviour. Lie = scum. BF => scum. Or the TLDR version (you'll need to open the spoilers if yuo want to read the BF posts though):
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Half the Sky
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