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On February 15 2016 13:53 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:So let's get back to this interrogation. Keanu, to me it looks like your reason for suspecting Warty is the same reason you refused to suspect Valdi. In fact, you admit using the same metric: Show nested quote +If we also go by the "being active and not scumhunting" metric, he's #1 in that aspect
Your reason paraphrased: Warty started out with lots of activity and it diminished as the game continued. My defense of Warty: The only time when Warty can be considered active is very early game, in his back and forth with me. Early game activity is a an entirely different beast than later activity. Early game activity is based on in the moment interactions, when later activity is based on reading the thread and filters. Early game activity is talking. Later activity is reading. So it makes sense to me that Warty can't be bothered to read the thread closely, but he has no problem having an early game shit fest with me.
The difference is Valdi was totally AFK (or faked being so apparently), but Warty was indeed posting in the thread throughout late-D1 onwards.
Valdi made it appear like he was into the game and shit but just didn't post anything because of some OOG stuff that didn't allow him to even be here (dunno how much of this is true now).
Warty was here, but his care for the game and activity diminished for no discernible reason if he's town.
So it makes sense to me that Warty can't be bothered to read the thread closely
To me it doesn't. I can certainly feel Warty genuinely doesn't care much about the game (and it's not faking it). If he's scum he just doesn't give a fuck and knows he can keep this up apparently. If he's town then I can't understand not trying to care a little bit, when he's not being pushed/bullied/whatever by anyone, the game is very small to read, and he did show signs of fun and care in early D1.
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What makes you suspicious of robik now?
I can't rule out an elaborate bus for D3 town-cred, but his behaviour last D2 seemed strangely convincing to me as town (check out what I posted above).
On February 15 2016 13:59 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Damn the soap opera with zombies pulled you away from me.
I really should get to watch it before going to sleep, but actually you are keeping me away from it >_>
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lol that was easy
all part of my masterplan mwahahaha
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At Mylo we have 1 more townie to help catch scum. If we misslynch doc has a chance to save the next night too. Plus NL is boring. But well dont really oppose NL if thats what people want
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Why NL now and not last D2? Situation feels exactly the same.
Don't see much benefit in having scum pick and choose which townie to kill in 2 nights in a row, unless your plan is to REALLY count on a doc save at some point (to confirm townies).
Plus I think doc should claim tomorrow. Him claiming makes no difference on who he can save at a potential N3 night, but we'll have a confirmed townie on D3, or the suspects get reduced to 2 (if there is CC).
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Also, Walking Dead was pretty sweet last night. Recommend it
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Doc can save tonight too. Maybe we should just wait.
.... though a NL will be VERY boring to be honest and be quite a drag :/
D3 and N3 will be put to a halt if so
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You seem to have forgotten I'm super mafia Shapelog!
Anyways, as scum I do find it VERY stressful ... unless everything is going my way and I have a plan put down in stone and it's going smooth as Smurfette's bellybutton. That rarely happens though
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On February 16 2016 07:34 Iwasrobik wrote:
So you posted "I will read valdiano's filter since he's getting a lot of flak".
Then you DIDNT READ his filter and waited 11 minutes doing NOTHING.
Then you posted "I'll buy that. Valdiano kinda won me over when he was posting because it was content for me to read."
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This actually makes sense if you think about it.
He had read Valdi as town when he had posted back in D1, but never reread his filter. We ask him about it and he says he's gonna read it. He fucks off and never reads it. When asked about Valdi he mentions the previous read he had
His "Ok I'll sheep onto Valdi" vote makes sense in the above state of mind too.
His actions are consistent with not giving a shit robik. The actual scummy thing is that exact apathy of his.
As well as this:
On February 12 2016 10:03 keanuisgod wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2016 07:41 Wartrukk wrote:
Scumtama and lying LS on the same wagon on a lurker. Wowie Show nested quote +On February 12 2016 07:53 Wartrukk wrote:
Deadline is now, isn't it? I'm voting saitama i have real reasons but am still busy. It's really nice to come back to activity 1-2 hours before the lynch and shout how the "wagon looks like trash" isn't it? It's also really nice to vote right at the last moment to someone who is OBVIOUSLY not getting lynched and making no effort to try to get him lynched It also isn't suspicious at all to vote someone completely unrelated to the lynch and wait until the last second (when you KNOW your vote doesn't count and thus you can't be held accountable for anything) by just saying "I have real reasons but am still busy" Anyways, we know Bhaal is town now, so please explain your read on him. These are your only posts about him Show nested quote +On February 11 2016 05:33 Wartrukk wrote:
Bhaal lom is still in my leanscum pile. Show nested quote +On February 12 2016 06:20 Wartrukk wrote:
Why did halo lamb get a free pass?
Halo lamb types a lot like LS, to contradict my early game and smurfhunt Show nested quote +On February 12 2016 07:41 Wartrukk wrote:
Scumtama and lying LS on the same wagon on a lurker. Wowie Why exactly was he in your "leanscum" pile? What does the "lying LS" thing have to do with anything? Did you even pay attention to my case on him and the later change of heart of many people in the thread about him?
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On February 16 2016 07:48 Wartrukk wrote:
I answered that post iirc keanu
Didn't make your actions any less scummy
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Wartuk, why did you scumread saitama at the end of D1?
On February 12 2016 06:19 Wartrukk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2016 23:24 Valdiano wrote:On February 11 2016 05:33 Wartrukk wrote:WartrukkOn February 10 2016 21:11 Wartrukk wrote:On February 10 2016 19:47 unholyflare wrote:On February 10 2016 10:40 Wartrukk wrote:
So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol"
Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right? I don't understand how you or anyone can believe this. If, somehow, we know the identities of all/most of the people in the game, it would be easier to scumhunt. I think you're pretty suspicious for this as it suggests you have something to hide. I'm checking the thread before I go to bed but one more time, we can't know the identities of anyone for sure it only creates wifom For some people we can be close to 100% sure of their identity. For instance, I am close to 100% sure that keanuisgod is shapelog. Even if you disagree, wouldn't the obvious identity of a smurf be helpful for some rough but effective metaing? ie if keanu aka shapelog has a huge filter, that doesn't necessarily point to him being town. On February 10 2016 11:50 Wartrukk wrote:
I'm going to take a break I think I'm tunneled on the smurf hunting idea too hard. I'm not taking back what I said as I still think there is a clear mafia motivation for it but I can't articulate them properly it seems I didn't realize you were actually tunneled on me for smurf hunting. Exactly how sure were you that I was scum? I guess if meta reads are all you are confident in making then a 99% smurf read is fine I just don't think it's 100% even if you truly believe you are the smurf detective. I used the word tunneled because I was tunneled on the idea that smurf huntingis super scummy and since you seemed, in my eyes, to be fighting me for no real reason. I'm over the smurf thing now. Bhaal lom is still in my leanscum pile, NNN is null because i admit he posted some stuff (like early game to saitama) that I was thinking. Vald is coming out of the gate strong andI think that's towny, especially if he replaced in on short notice. Saitama had a weird early game and I had him as leanscum last night but I haven't read too closely the 30 or so posts from last night. another point that I feel needs some clarification - this sounds like mindmeld to me, which people from their perspective, view as towny, so why is he still null? just wondering. also if you can further discuss saita, that might be great. he's the one active player I'm having difficulty understanding. You're honestly correct, we had a mindmeld on saitama's earlygame awkwardness but I was too stubborn to call it as such. nnn has been active in thread and looking towny since I last checked and read him pretty strongly as town now. Saitama is looking scummy to me still but at the time of that post it was only due to his awkwardness early game. I've gone through his filter (thanks to this question) and noticed a few things. He says that he finds NNN and myself null and, when called out on the fact that he said we were doing towny things, backed it up saying there isn't enough to go on. Then, after a while says we're both leaning town. Maybe nnn did some stuff but I've been AFK for 24hrs or something, what did I do that made me townlean? + Show Spoiler +On February 11 2016 02:58 saitamaofonepunch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2016 00:59 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 11 2016 00:28 saitamaofonepunch wrote:On February 11 2016 00:00 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:On February 10 2016 23:26 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
Unfortunately, it smacks a bit townie.
Also no I don't expect much alignment indication in the start of the game. Hence, so much stuff is NAI.
So is it correct to assume you have the same read on both Wartruck and myself: bad players who are leaning townie? And your definition of omgus is what? And we are leaning town because of the omgusing itself or because we omgused in a townie way? That assumption is not correct. You are players who have done a bad play that is more often town than scum in alignment indication. My definition of omgus is reading a player as scum simply because they read you as scum. Neither of you has progressed from null. Nothing you said here makes sense. That assumption is not correct. You are players who have done a bad play that is more often town than scum in alignment indication.
If we have done something that more often comes from town, then that should lead to a town lean. On the spectrum of scum to town, we should be on the town side of null. My definition of omgus is reading a player as scum simply because they read you as scum.
You are misrepresenting the reasons behind our suspicions. Wartrukk suspected me for smurf hunting. I suspected Wartrukk for being suspicious of smurf hunting. How did Wartrukk OMGUS at all? I can understand why you'd think I OMGUSed, but realize that if he was suspecting someone else for smurf hunting, my suspicion would have still been there. So the true reason behind that suspicion isn't OMGUS either. Coming into the thread early and saying "I'm town" also comes from town more often than scum. Do you seriously expect me to immediately give them a town lean? Please. I weigh my reads before I give them. And I took it on someone's word that wartrukk was omgusing you- so lynch me for not reading. Finally, you did specifically state at one time "you are scumreading me for X? Then you are scum" which is practically omgus. I will find it later. On phone. On February 11 2016 08:59 saitamaofonepunch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2016 08:16 keanuisgod wrote:On February 11 2016 07:47 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
What, being a smurf and unable to fall back on some meta got everyone scared?
It's kind of good in that the thread is not being subjected to spam, but there comes a point where as scum I'd totally be lurking right now. I think there's not much we can do now but try engaging in conversation with the current active players. saita, what are your thoughts on: Warty and Bhaal? I have to add on Warty, that on top of the "slight town" feeling I mentioned before, his "half-assed" semi-reads seem to mirror my half-assed semi-reads (except NNN I suppose), which in this abyss of content we call "thread" seems like a good sign (in the "it feels like a fellow townie" deal). Bhaal has quit role playing. Looking forward to the future on that. Wartrukk is still mostly null. I haven't formed strong reads yet. I will say kush mountain and wartrukk are slight townleans after more thought put into this game. The motive behind their posting does not look destructive to me at this time. It just feels like saitama is following thread sentiment. He calls out keanu for voting a scumread he's not confident in but once someone points out that voting is part of mafia saitama calls the subject of keanu's case (halo lamb) scummy.
Is the above only it?
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What about Gargy Warty? Post your exact thoughts right now about him, considering that apparently you are shifting into "robik scum" right now
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Damn, was really hoping for some hero doc save there
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You still want that NL robik?
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On February 16 2016 08:11 Iwasrobik wrote:Yep probably unless I'm convinced one guy is scum
But you have 48 hours to figure that out, that's the point of Day cycles.
How would 72 additional hours help you? Remember you are dealing with Warty and Gargy here, they won't post at all and it'l just be you and me arguing or whatever.
Nothing happens, then N3 comes, I or you die (most likely me) and then we are in the same exact spot, just with 1 less townie to make sense of things. If NNN died last night, then it means doc most likely protted me or you, so it's like throwing a dice to see whether doc will save someone on N3 or not.
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Ugh I think I'll rest a little bit too and get here with a fresh head.
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On February 16 2016 08:28 Wartrukk wrote:
Fuck it I'ma wifom the nk
nnn was the only one calling me town until a short time before deadline. The only one who wasn't here before deadline is garga.
That's all I really got but it makes sense to me
On February 13 2016 23:07 GargamelxD wrote:
the nk does implicate wartrukk, saitama wasnt really the shining beacon of townieness to warrant being NKd, so i suppose it was cause of his reads..
valdiano is hts and town imo.
On February 13 2016 08:13 Wartrukk wrote:
Wifoming the night kill to implicate (but not really implicate) the towny who said he has little time to play.
In MYLO.
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Why the change of heart regarding WIFOMing a NK on MYLO? Is it just because it benefits you at this very moment but didn't on N1?
On February 16 2016 08:35 Wartrukk wrote:
So I'm gonna place a vote on garga because I'm 90% sure he's the game winning lynch but if you two want a nl you just have to not vote with me.
I'll be back throughout the dayphase.
On February 16 2016 06:39 Wartrukk wrote:
Hrm... When I checked my phone this morning it said there were 0 new posts. Maybe I missed the refresh button or something.
So I'm here trying to figure out if robik or keanu is the scum trying to get the easy warty mislynch out of the way first.
On February 16 2016 07:46 Wartrukk wrote:
[to robik] Still kinda think you're scum so that makes sense
On February 16 2016 07:47 Wartrukk wrote:
[to robik] Is garga your next ml after me? That seems the easiest
Doesn't feel like you were 90% sure Garga was scum on N2. You sure WIFOMing the NK (which was pretty obvious) made it so you were 90% sure it was Garga?
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I'm at work. Either I'll find some time right now after lunch, or will do at night.
Right now I'm trying to figure out if Warty is genuine in a townie way or not. Don't really believe I could make any breakthrough read on Garga other than feels.
I also get a little paranoid that an inactive/apathetic Warty/Garga as town could give rise to a super-try-hard scum robik lol.
Fucking MYLOs/LYLOs always messing with my head
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Well, you did have that scummy stuff on D2 that I have to reread just to be sure. It's MYLO and all ...
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