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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 18:26 GMT
#476
No >_>

But don't worry, I'm gonna get there soon
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 18:59 GMT
#478
How does the phrase "If you are town you are acting stupidly; therefore it's possible you are actually scum" not make sense?

And "acting stupidly" means parking a vote on someone with no reasonable justification on MYLO
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 19:13 GMT
#482
On February 15 2016 04:05 GargamelxD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2016 03:59 keanuisgod wrote:
How does the phrase "If you are town you are acting stupidly; therefore it's possible you are actually scum" not make sense?

And "acting stupidly" means parking a vote on someone with no reasonable justification on MYLO


So all the shit you said about warty was a complete lie since in your opinion voting him isn't reasonable even though he has a good shot at being mafia and you should think that too.


Stop with the strawman and look at the facts.

This is the first time you FOS Warty:

On February 14 2016 05:34 GargamelxD wrote:
im not sure yet about the other one but im pretty confident warty is mafia.


These are the only other times you mention him:

On February 13 2016 23:07 GargamelxD wrote:
the nk does implicate wartrukk, saitama wasnt really the shining beacon of townieness to warrant being NKd, so i suppose it was cause of his reads...


On February 13 2016 23:10 GargamelxD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 07:41 Wartrukk wrote:
Scumtama and lying LS on the same wagon on a lurker. Wowie


Show nested quote +
On February 13 2016 09:06 Wartrukk wrote:
So on first read I hate gargamel and want him to be died. He quite obviously cares less about this game than I do and that's just fucked


incompatibility detected


On February 14 2016 00:22 GargamelxD wrote:
Wartrukk also didnt comment on any of the reasons for why people went for the rom lynch.

why are you failing to notice this nnn? theres the feeling you are biased towards wartrukk


The reasons are:
- NAI speculation about the NK
- An "incompatibility" that was debunked by NNN
- "Wartrukk also didnt comment on any of the reasons for why people went for the rom lynch."

Since the first 2 are not strong nor valid, then I can only assume you are "pretty confident" Warty is mafia only because he "didn't comment on any of the reasons for why people went for the rom lynch".

I am supposed to believe you are confident Warty is mafia over anybody else (Valdi, robik, etc) ... just based on that ... on MYLO.

So all the shit you said about warty was a complete lie since in your opinion voting him isn't reasonable even though he has a good shot at being mafia and you should think that too


Your reasons for voting Warty never made mention of anything I've said about Warty

If I make a HUGE case against player X, and then you come and say "I'm voting X because he has a funny username", then I'm entirely justified in finding your vote suspicious, even if objectively there are other reasons for being suspicious of X.
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 19:17 GMT
#484
Also weird that whenever I press you about your read on Warty you somehow flip it around into an accusation of me >_>

On February 14 2016 04:32 GargamelxD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2016 03:59 keanuisgod wrote:
On February 13 2016 23:07 GargamelxD wrote:
the nk does implicate wartrukk, saitama wasnt really the shining beacon of townieness to warrant being NKd, so i suppose it was cause of his reads..

valdiano is hts and town imo.


I think I implicated suspicion on Wartuk on N1 far better than saitama. If the point of the NK was because of reads on a scum Warty, why not shoot me?

Saitama's posts about Warty on N1:

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 12 2016 10:20 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
Wartrukk is scum. Lynch tomorrow.


On February 12 2016 13:47 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
My PoE says wartrukk and then garg.

Barring that I'd have to say I am wrong and that's why I am so hesitant to give reads.


On February 12 2016 15:26 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
Your thinking I scumread you for omgus is like your having thought that with nnn


Compare to what I posted about him on N1:

+ Show Spoiler +
On February 12 2016 10:03 keanuisgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 07:39 Wartrukk wrote:
Wow this wagon looks like trash


Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 07:41 Wartrukk wrote:
Scumtama and lying LS on the same wagon on a lurker. Wowie


Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 07:53 Wartrukk wrote:
Deadline is now, isn't it? I'm voting saitama i have real reasons but am still busy.


It's really nice to come back to activity 1-2 hours before the lynch and shout how the "wagon looks like trash" isn't it?
It's also really nice to vote right at the last moment to someone who is OBVIOUSLY not getting lynched and making no effort to try to get him lynched

It also isn't suspicious at all to vote someone completely unrelated to the lynch and wait until the last second (when you KNOW your vote doesn't count and thus you can't be held accountable for anything) by just saying "I have real reasons but am still busy"


Anyways, we know Bhaal is town now, so please explain your read on him. These are your only posts about him

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2016 05:33 Wartrukk wrote:
Bhaal lom is still in my leanscum pile.


Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 06:20 Wartrukk wrote:
Why did halo lamb get a free pass?

Halo lamb types a lot like LS, to contradict my early game and smurfhunt


Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 07:41 Wartrukk wrote:
Scumtama and lying LS on the same wagon on a lurker. Wowie


Why exactly was he in your "leanscum" pile? What does the "lying LS" thing have to do with anything? Did you even pay attention to my case on him and the later change of heart of many people in the thread about him?


Saitama said "Warty is scum based on PoE, but I may be wrong so I'm hesitant to give out reads".
You think that is enough to implicate Warty?


i just think it looks bad on you if you post reasons for being suspicious about warty in something that looks like a defense of him.

for you the nk implication should be secondary since you already have arguments for being suspicious of him so why make the NK argument the center of your post here? it just doesnt seem to be in line with your apparent preferences. if you think the nk argument is bad you might as well think "doesnt matter i have other reasons to scumread him, i think they are better and heres why" which would have seemed like a more townie way of approaching this.

kita or bh


On February 15 2016 03:50 GargamelxD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2016 03:06 keanuisgod wrote:
Warty and Garga are acting so stupidly this MYLO that it wouldn't surprise me both being scum bussing each other for shit and giggles to be honest


This is a super odd post. Im voting my scumread, whom you suspect as well and that makes this post really scummy.

There's no reason for you to believe that either me or warty are doing something stupid unless you are confident we're both town, seems like tmi, on me at least.


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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 19:56 GMT
#490
The strawman is saying I implicate it's not reasonable to vote for Warty, when in fact my point is that you have no reasonable points (that you've posted) for voting Warty

Your votes are placed badly because they are not justified, and if they are they are with bad reasons (like "the NK implicating Warty").

Please provide some more meat on why you are voting Warty. You are still trying to skip around this issue.

Why is Warty scum? Why is Valdi town? What about robik? Are you suspicious of me?
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 19:57 GMT
#491
D1: Warty calls saita and Bhaal scum
N1: saitama and Bhaal die and flip town
D2: Warty can't possibly still call saita and Bhaal scum. He instead calls Garga scum.

This is pretty simple
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 20:45 GMT
#495
What had you convinced robik was town (before) again?
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 21:14 GMT
#502
On February 15 2016 06:00 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
So yeah valdi, robik final answer.


On February 15 2016 05:45 Wartrukk wrote:
Right now I'm thinking robik and garg is the most likely scumteam


We are getting to a point where FOSes get flung around and constantly change between different scumteams and the like, without much second thought nor posting thorough reasoning of it, etc

It feels like scum are having a field day with this.

@NNN, what's your thought process of believing Garga was scum, then Warty is scum (or was it the other way round?), now robik as scum? What made you change your mind in that way? Posts that were ocurring? Some reread of filters? I take it your read on Valdi doesn't change at all in this time then?

@Garga, ok, that's sound reasoning for FOSing Warty. Are you very confident in that Warty read? And again, what about robik and Valdi? Are you just unsure about them so you want to focus on Warty, or what?

@Warty: Your filter indicates some suspicion on Gargamel and robik, but please explain yourself more. Again, what about Valdi?


Valdi is indeed the weirdest link here. NNN and robik are sure sure he's scum. Warty and Garga are sure sure he's town. He's been inactive since the middle of D1 and hasn't posted anything at all, hell might even get modkilled today or something.
Wtf is going on really? Robik and NNN, there is nothing from Valdi that can actually indicate inactive townie so far (since he hasn't posted anything from D1 other than the "excuse" post)? Warty and Garga .... wtf please post actually meaningful reads on Valdi other than "At one point he made posts for me to read" and "He's HTS lol he's town".


Anyways I've been procrastinating a little bit so I'll get to those rereads
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 21:27 GMT
#505
Okay, I may end up sheeping into the Valdi wagon but first I'll finish rereading.

@Gargy: To be honest until right now I get the feeling you are more likely to be town and Warty to be scum, any "chainsaw defense" is actually an attack on your reasoning, not any actual defense. Anyways don't really worry about me
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 21:39 GMT
#507
Hmm...I have an idea though
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 21:48 GMT
#512
That was a question (I phrased wrongly):

"Robik and NNN, do you think there is anything at all from Valdi that could actually indicate inactive townie instead of scum?"
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 21:53 GMT
#514
Mainly because he hasn't actually had the "time" to properly respond to the cases against him, and to actually scumhunt. Dude's been inactive since the middle of D1, and a lot of interesting shit has happened since. I don't think him "not scumhunting" much at that point is THAT indicative, considering few people were at that point (again, the thread consensus at the time was "We don't know wtf is happening, let's lynch a lurker").

But the thing he did post can be indicative of scum so I don't oppose the D2 wagon on him ... at least not at this very moment (I would have wanted Valdi to be here at the start of D2 and then evolve it from there)
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 22:22 GMT
#524
On February 15 2016 07:20 Wartrukk wrote:
Hm, should I switch so scum can't last minute hammer or what? Probably


Wasn't robik and Garga scum?
Are you NOT confident in your Valdi scum read enough to switch then?
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 22:24 GMT
#525
EBWOP: Are you NOT confident in your Valdi town read enough to switch then?
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 22:27 GMT
#526
This is taking some time ...

I'll make a semi-serious semi-placeholder vote on Valdi.

I'm rereading Valdi and what I said above is still true. I can't really read him as scum based on the "feel" of his posts. But it's true he hasn't scumhunted, has been inactive/lurking for way too long, etc, so I'm willing to sheep NNN here.
Still have 30m to keep rereading.

##Vote: Valdiano
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 22:30 GMT
#528
NNN, you are scumreading robik right now.
Are you certain this is a bus then? Robik is pretty active right now at the deadline, seems eager to see what Valdiano flips and never made any intention to remove his vote off him, even when apparently he had a stronger scumread on me than him at some point
Is this a bus?

I can see town robik acting this way to a scum/town Valdi, and I can see scum robik acting this way to a town Valdi (i.e this is the misslynch that would "secure" the win for scum, so I'd be pretty pumped in the thread and active if I was him). Don't really see a scum robik and scum Valdi scenario though
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 22:34 GMT
#532
On February 15 2016 07:32 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
No I'm not sure. I'm at the grocery store. Don't ask me hard questions.


I'm getting this tingly sensation in the back of my head that scumteam is robik+Warty and Valdi is just inactive (personal reason apparently) and they are laughing their ass off so far.

Hopefully it's just a bad dream.

Valdi will most likely be modkilled if he isn't lynched anyways and we won't have his vote, so lynching him right now seems the only way to not get a NL.
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 22:36 GMT
#533
On February 15 2016 07:28 Wartrukk wrote:
How can I be confident in my reads if I've hardly been reading the thread?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/502905-new-smurf-mini-mafia?user=Wartrukk

You were very active and "cared" about the thread and read it in the first 12 hours of the game or so.
Ever since late-D1 you've been "I don't give a shit about the thread" and "I am not reading the thread".

If you are town, this surely has an explanation right? You don't go from being active and engaging with the thread to becoming whatever the heck you've become so far.
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 22:41 GMT
#537
On February 12 2016 15:00 Wartrukk wrote:
I didn't really care about this game before and now I REALLY don't care


Why don't you care about the game? Work just means less time, but well, even Valdi managed to post some walls of text with stuff and we all know how much "time" apparently he has (i.e NONE)
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keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 14 2016 22:44 GMT
#540
Right now the only 2 realistic lynches are Valdiano (if Warty swaps) or Warty (if me/robik/NNN, who seem active in the thread, swap).

To be honest I'm somewhat considering a Warty lynch right now, though it may be a little too late.
Warty just doesn't give a fuck about the game too much. He's too up-front with it. Would a townie act like this? Response to everything with "I don't want to read the thread" but still randomly appear right before the deadline?
If he cares enough to show up now, why not care enough to read filters that are 2 pages long (seriously, this game is VERY SMALL) and try to do some meaningful shit?
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