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On February 17 2016 08:30 Iwasrobik wrote:
Garga is the last scum and here is why.

The main reason: Vlad's interactions

Here is the ONLY mention of Garga in Vald's filter:

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Once, he's mentioned because it's a post about lurkers; and it's a slight townlean without explanations, which is partner indicative.

In comparaison, here is how Vlad' interactions with Kaenu makes Kaenu likely town:
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Questions / interactions with him

On February 11 2016 01:14 Valdiano wrote:

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so there's a few things I don't like about this reading your filter or that I don't understand. You are discussing the effects of nnn's scumhunting in this first quote but you are dismissing it as banter. what makes you think this presumably isn't alignment indicative?

And Wartruk:
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Questions / interactions with him

On February 11 2016 23:24 Valdiano wrote:

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On February 11 2016 05:33 Wartrukk wrote:

Wartrukk

On February 10 2016 21:11 Wartrukk wrote:

On February 10 2016 19:47 unholyflare wrote:

On February 10 2016 10:40 Wartrukk wrote:
So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol"

Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right?

I don't understand how you or anyone can believe this. If, somehow, we know the identities of all/most of the people in the game, it would be easier to scumhunt. I think you're pretty suspicious for this as it suggests you have something to hide.

I'm checking the thread before I go to bed but one more time, we can't know the identities of anyone for sure it only creates wifom

For some people we can be close to 100% sure of their identity. For instance, I am close to 100% sure that keanuisgod is shapelog.
Even if you disagree, wouldn't the obvious identity of a smurf be helpful for some rough but effective metaing? ie if keanu aka shapelog has a huge filter, that doesn't necessarily point to him being town.

On February 10 2016 11:50 Wartrukk wrote:
I'm going to take a break I think I'm tunneled on the smurf hunting idea too hard. I'm not taking back what I said as I still think there is a clear mafia motivation for it but I can't articulate them properly it seems

I didn't realize you were actually tunneled on me for smurf hunting. Exactly how sure were you that I was scum?

I guess if meta reads are all you are confident in making then a 99% smurf read is fine I just don't think it's 100% even if you truly believe you are the smurf detective.

I used the word tunneled because I was tunneled on the idea that smurf huntingis super scummy and since you seemed, in my eyes, to be fighting me for no real reason.

I'm over the smurf thing now. Bhaal lom is still in my leanscum pile, NNN is null because i admit he posted some stuff (like early game to saitama) that I was thinking. Vald is coming out of the gate strong andI think that's towny, especially if he replaced in on short notice. Saitama had a weird early game and I had him as leanscum last night but I haven't read too closely the 30 or so posts from last night.

another point that I feel needs some clarification - this sounds like mindmeld to me, which people from their perspective, view as towny, so why is he still null? just wondering.

also if you can further discuss saita, that might be great. he's the one active player I'm having difficulty understanding.

Scumread with reasonning on him

On February 11 2016 00:54 Valdiano wrote:
wartrokk - didn't like his opening post because the usa vs europe thing is obviously not scummy. his filer padding post, without knowing who he is, I think I know what he actually meant by that, but obv not going to put words in his mouth. (if it's what I think he meant, it's nai)

The gist of his post is that he's skeptical and whoever the player is, it is possible this person just doesn't metaread people, he's in the clear as long as he's not scumreading someone for something that isn't alignment indicative.

if wartrokk can explain why the way nnn is smurf hunting is scummy then I would feel a little better about his alignment. his final post didn't reach an absolute conclusion on nnn despite their ongoing conversation. regardless of who he was, he should have been able to do so. right now, it's a scumlean without a concrete conclusion

And Saitama:
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Questions / interactions with him

On February 11 2016 01:02 Valdiano wrote:

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this post is difficult to understand. if I understand it correctly this is a bad post.

if this is the definition you believe then why are you sure that this couldn't come from scum?
omgus can come from either alignment.

second if you are suggesting the play is more often town then why are you suggesting that they have not progressed from null? what is the conditional element that could make them scum (implied by your first sentence in the final quote, correct)?

Plus a scumread on him which you probably all remember, I'm tired of writing these spoilers.

Even unholyflare got a small reason for his read:
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On February 11 2016 23:31 Valdiano wrote:
if I had to lynch any of the severely low content posters for uselessness right now, I'd say that 77Gold would "win" over unholyflare, if only for unholyflare making that one slight observation.

Vlad's interactions with others makes Wartruk and Kaenu very unlikely partners, and Garga a likely partner.

The secondary reasons

1. The activity and lack of excuse for AFK
Garga's activity is indicative of scum; no posts during long stretches of time where scum has no interest posting.
He has 1 post N1 and 2 posts N2, and nights are periods where scum doesn't feel the need to post.

Furthermore, these AFK periods are not explained. This is scum indicative, as townie are waaaaay more likely to explain WHY they weren't there for some time than scum, like Wartruk did for example. Again, that seems dumb but it is true. It was true for Vlad, it is true for Garga.

Lastly, he seems to have given up right now, which is a scum indicator, especially right after a scum lynch.

2. No interest in the lynch
Garga and Vlad were the two players not posting the hour before deadline on both D1 and D2. Gold did it too but he clearly gave up the game, and probably would have been replaced if not lynched. If Wartruk was not around the D2 deadline, we would not even have been able to lynch Vlad.

3. His read on Vlad

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That's it. No comment on any of the two cases made on him.

So who is the last scum ?
Garga

I would add the mindless shit flinging toward me where he doesn't even know what he's calling me scum for before he posts

On February 14 2016 00:13 GargamelxD wrote:

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he also said the rom wagon looked like shit, was that after his flip`?

which was posted after he posts this:

On February 13 2016 23:10 GargamelxD wrote:

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incompatibility detected

Which means he read my filter but never looked at any posts in context. He obviously didn't read the end of day in order either.

He was looking for reasons to scumread me before he read the thread.

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