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Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 15 2016 22:40 GMT
#641
On February 16 2016 07:38 Iwasrobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 07:36 Wartrukk wrote:
On February 16 2016 07:35 Iwasrobik wrote:
It doesn't make sense EVER and you're only posting this because you affirmed earlier you didn't read his filter:
On February 15 2016 07:58 Wartrukk wrote:
On February 15 2016 07:55 Iwasrobik wrote:
On February 15 2016 07:53 Wartrukk wrote:
On February 15 2016 07:51 keanuisgod wrote:
What do you think Valdi will flip right now?

Tell us ALL your thoughts about Valdi, before he flips and this will be invalid

Off the top of my head 'he posted a few times day 1 and I liked the posts at the time'


I'll have a gander at his filter if you want but if you think I'm scum I don't see the point since I would just use TMI and make a case calling him his true alignment

Don't remember doing this already ?
On February 13 2016 09:07 Wartrukk wrote:
I will read valdiano's filter since he's getting a lot of flak

On February 13 2016 09:18 Wartrukk wrote:
I'll buy that. Valdiano kinda won me over when he was posting because it was content for me to read. robik do you think valdiano is the most likely scum now or is your top scummer still keanu?


Never did it


So if it doesn't matter what I answered what are you trying to prove?

I was waiting for "Oh this post right there was a mistake I actually read his filter but forgot" if you were town.



Which would make me a liar

Which is why you're calling me scum

k
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 15 2016 22:40 GMT
#642
On February 16 2016 07:38 Wartrukk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 07:37 Iwasrobik wrote:
On February 16 2016 07:34 Iwasrobik wrote:
So you posted "I will read valdiano's filter since he's getting a lot of flak".
Then you DIDNT READ his filter and waited 11 minutes doing NOTHING.
Then you posted "I'll buy that. Valdiano kinda won me over when he was posting because it was content for me to read."
?????????????????????

This does not make sense. It CANNOT happen. There is NO explanation I can imagine for why you would go "I'll read Vlad's filter", NOT doing it, then go "OK I agree with the case Vlad can be scum".

Laziness, low attention span, lack of motivation....

I came up with three off the top of my head

Doesn't explain why you go from "I'll read his filter" to "I'll buy the case" if you did NOTHING in between but play video games.
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 15 2016 22:41 GMT
#643
On February 16 2016 07:40 Wartrukk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 07:38 Iwasrobik wrote:
On February 16 2016 07:36 Wartrukk wrote:
On February 16 2016 07:35 Iwasrobik wrote:
It doesn't make sense EVER and you're only posting this because you affirmed earlier you didn't read his filter:
On February 15 2016 07:58 Wartrukk wrote:
On February 15 2016 07:55 Iwasrobik wrote:
On February 15 2016 07:53 Wartrukk wrote:
On February 15 2016 07:51 keanuisgod wrote:
What do you think Valdi will flip right now?

Tell us ALL your thoughts about Valdi, before he flips and this will be invalid

Off the top of my head 'he posted a few times day 1 and I liked the posts at the time'


I'll have a gander at his filter if you want but if you think I'm scum I don't see the point since I would just use TMI and make a case calling him his true alignment

Don't remember doing this already ?
On February 13 2016 09:07 Wartrukk wrote:
I will read valdiano's filter since he's getting a lot of flak

On February 13 2016 09:18 Wartrukk wrote:
I'll buy that. Valdiano kinda won me over when he was posting because it was content for me to read. robik do you think valdiano is the most likely scum now or is your top scummer still keanu?


Never did it


So if it doesn't matter what I answered what are you trying to prove?

I was waiting for "Oh this post right there was a mistake I actually read his filter but forgot" if you were town.



Which would make me a liar

Which is why you're calling me scum

k

Yep but that would be believable. Your version is "I changed my read when I did nothing that would warrant changing it", which doesn't make sense unless you don't care about your read.
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 15 2016 22:41 GMT
#644
On February 16 2016 07:40 Iwasrobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 07:38 Wartrukk wrote:
On February 16 2016 07:37 Iwasrobik wrote:
On February 16 2016 07:34 Iwasrobik wrote:
So you posted "I will read valdiano's filter since he's getting a lot of flak".
Then you DIDNT READ his filter and waited 11 minutes doing NOTHING.
Then you posted "I'll buy that. Valdiano kinda won me over when he was posting because it was content for me to read."
?????????????????????

This does not make sense. It CANNOT happen. There is NO explanation I can imagine for why you would go "I'll read Vlad's filter", NOT doing it, then go "OK I agree with the case Vlad can be scum".

Laziness, low attention span, lack of motivation....

I came up with three off the top of my head

Doesn't explain why you go from "I'll read his filter" to "I'll buy the case" if you did NOTHING in between but play video games.

Hm, to me it does.
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 15 2016 22:42 GMT
#645
On February 16 2016 07:41 Iwasrobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 07:40 Wartrukk wrote:
On February 16 2016 07:38 Iwasrobik wrote:
On February 16 2016 07:36 Wartrukk wrote:
On February 16 2016 07:35 Iwasrobik wrote:
It doesn't make sense EVER and you're only posting this because you affirmed earlier you didn't read his filter:
On February 15 2016 07:58 Wartrukk wrote:
On February 15 2016 07:55 Iwasrobik wrote:
On February 15 2016 07:53 Wartrukk wrote:
On February 15 2016 07:51 keanuisgod wrote:
What do you think Valdi will flip right now?

Tell us ALL your thoughts about Valdi, before he flips and this will be invalid

Off the top of my head 'he posted a few times day 1 and I liked the posts at the time'


I'll have a gander at his filter if you want but if you think I'm scum I don't see the point since I would just use TMI and make a case calling him his true alignment

Don't remember doing this already ?
On February 13 2016 09:07 Wartrukk wrote:
I will read valdiano's filter since he's getting a lot of flak

On February 13 2016 09:18 Wartrukk wrote:
I'll buy that. Valdiano kinda won me over when he was posting because it was content for me to read. robik do you think valdiano is the most likely scum now or is your top scummer still keanu?


Never did it


So if it doesn't matter what I answered what are you trying to prove?

I was waiting for "Oh this post right there was a mistake I actually read his filter but forgot" if you were town.



Which would make me a liar

Which is why you're calling me scum

k

Yep but that would be believable. Your version is "I changed my read when I did nothing that would warrant changing it", which doesn't make sense unless you don't care about your read.

'changed my read' meaning 'had town feels because the posts were big but read a case and decided to sheep'

then yeah I guess I did
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 15 2016 22:42 GMT
#646
@wartrukk.
usually people complain when filters are too long. It takes a lot of time to read them.
You are saying you are having trouble caring because filters are too short.
Don't short filters make the game easier to follow than long filters?
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 15 2016 22:43 GMT
#647
On February 16 2016 07:42 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@wartrukk.
usually people complain when filters are too long. It takes a lot of time to read them.
You are saying you are having trouble caring because filters are too short.
Don't short filters make the game easier to follow than long filters?

I never said that, I said the low volume of posting is making it hard to care. I like seeing the little ()> filled with numbers when I check my subscribed threads.
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 15 2016 22:44 GMT
#648
On February 16 2016 07:42 Wartrukk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 07:41 Iwasrobik wrote:
On February 16 2016 07:40 Wartrukk wrote:
On February 16 2016 07:38 Iwasrobik wrote:
On February 16 2016 07:36 Wartrukk wrote:
On February 16 2016 07:35 Iwasrobik wrote:
It doesn't make sense EVER and you're only posting this because you affirmed earlier you didn't read his filter:
On February 15 2016 07:58 Wartrukk wrote:
On February 15 2016 07:55 Iwasrobik wrote:
On February 15 2016 07:53 Wartrukk wrote:
On February 15 2016 07:51 keanuisgod wrote:
What do you think Valdi will flip right now?

Tell us ALL your thoughts about Valdi, before he flips and this will be invalid

Off the top of my head 'he posted a few times day 1 and I liked the posts at the time'


I'll have a gander at his filter if you want but if you think I'm scum I don't see the point since I would just use TMI and make a case calling him his true alignment

Don't remember doing this already ?
On February 13 2016 09:07 Wartrukk wrote:
I will read valdiano's filter since he's getting a lot of flak

On February 13 2016 09:18 Wartrukk wrote:
I'll buy that. Valdiano kinda won me over when he was posting because it was content for me to read. robik do you think valdiano is the most likely scum now or is your top scummer still keanu?


Never did it


So if it doesn't matter what I answered what are you trying to prove?

I was waiting for "Oh this post right there was a mistake I actually read his filter but forgot" if you were town.



Which would make me a liar

Which is why you're calling me scum

k

Yep but that would be believable. Your version is "I changed my read when I did nothing that would warrant changing it", which doesn't make sense unless you don't care about your read.

'changed my read' meaning 'had town feels because the posts were big but read a case and decided to sheep'

then yeah I guess I did

Yes but actually no.
You read the case.
Went "I'll read his filter".
Did nothing.
Went "OK he's maybe scum".
I think we're rehashing the same thing over and over so if it's the only things you've got to explain this we gotta stop.
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 15 2016 22:45 GMT
#649
What i've said is what happened, sorry it doesn't fit your narrative
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 15 2016 22:45 GMT
#650
Plus that's only a third of the things I've said. You've also completely forgot this and went "Garga and robik are scum" as soon as kaenu talked to you.
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 15 2016 22:46 GMT
#651
Still kinda think you're scum so that makes sense
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 15 2016 22:47 GMT
#652
Is garga your next ml after me? That seems the easiest
keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 15 2016 22:47 GMT
#653
On February 16 2016 07:34 Iwasrobik wrote:
So you posted "I will read valdiano's filter since he's getting a lot of flak".
Then you DIDNT READ his filter and waited 11 minutes doing NOTHING.
Then you posted "I'll buy that. Valdiano kinda won me over when he was posting because it was content for me to read."
?????????????????????


This actually makes sense if you think about it.

He had read Valdi as town when he had posted back in D1, but never reread his filter. We ask him about it and he says he's gonna read it. He fucks off and never reads it. When asked about Valdi he mentions the previous read he had

His "Ok I'll sheep onto Valdi" vote makes sense in the above state of mind too.

His actions are consistent with not giving a shit robik. The actual scummy thing is that exact apathy of his.

As well as this:

On February 12 2016 10:03 keanuisgod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 07:39 Wartrukk wrote:
Wow this wagon looks like trash


Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 07:41 Wartrukk wrote:
Scumtama and lying LS on the same wagon on a lurker. Wowie


Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 07:53 Wartrukk wrote:
Deadline is now, isn't it? I'm voting saitama i have real reasons but am still busy.


It's really nice to come back to activity 1-2 hours before the lynch and shout how the "wagon looks like trash" isn't it?
It's also really nice to vote right at the last moment to someone who is OBVIOUSLY not getting lynched and making no effort to try to get him lynched

It also isn't suspicious at all to vote someone completely unrelated to the lynch and wait until the last second (when you KNOW your vote doesn't count and thus you can't be held accountable for anything) by just saying "I have real reasons but am still busy"


Anyways, we know Bhaal is town now, so please explain your read on him. These are your only posts about him

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2016 05:33 Wartrukk wrote:
Bhaal lom is still in my leanscum pile.


Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 06:20 Wartrukk wrote:
Why did halo lamb get a free pass?

Halo lamb types a lot like LS, to contradict my early game and smurfhunt


Show nested quote +
On February 12 2016 07:41 Wartrukk wrote:
Scumtama and lying LS on the same wagon on a lurker. Wowie


Why exactly was he in your "leanscum" pile? What does the "lying LS" thing have to do with anything? Did you even pay attention to my case on him and the later change of heart of many people in the thread about him?

Whoa!
Iwasrobik
Profile Joined February 2016
190 Posts
February 15 2016 22:48 GMT
#654
Meh you're scum. I owe the game a reread though, didn't have time so I will have to do that before doing anything tomorrow, assuming I don't die. Will wait for night result then sleep.
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 15 2016 22:48 GMT
#655
I answered that post iirc keanu
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 15 2016 22:49 GMT
#656
On February 16 2016 07:48 Iwasrobik wrote:
Meh you're scum. I owe the game a reread though, didn't have time so I will have to do that before doing anything tomorrow, assuming I don't die. Will wait for night result then sleep.

meh, thread sentiment is going your way so you don't need to throw any more shit that won't stick. I hear you
keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 15 2016 22:50 GMT
#657
On February 16 2016 07:48 Wartrukk wrote:
I answered that post iirc keanu


Didn't make your actions any less scummy
Whoa!
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 15 2016 22:50 GMT
#658
Fair
Wartrukk
Profile Joined February 2016
152 Posts
February 15 2016 22:52 GMT
#659
HAHA AT LEAST I KNOW I'M NOT DYING TONIGHT AMIRITE BOYS
keanuisgod
Profile Joined February 2016
271 Posts
February 15 2016 22:53 GMT
#660
Wartuk, why did you scumread saitama at the end of D1?

On February 12 2016 06:19 Wartrukk wrote:
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On February 11 2016 23:24 Valdiano wrote:
On February 11 2016 05:33 Wartrukk wrote:
Wartrukk
On February 10 2016 21:11 Wartrukk wrote:
On February 10 2016 19:47 unholyflare wrote:
On February 10 2016 10:40 Wartrukk wrote:
So saying you're going to out smurfs, I say I think that's scummy (I still do) and after you go about trying to out smurfs you come back to my post and say "Joke phase lol"

Yeah, I'm the one fabricating reads, right?

I don't understand how you or anyone can believe this. If, somehow, we know the identities of all/most of the people in the game, it would be easier to scumhunt. I think you're pretty suspicious for this as it suggests you have something to hide.

I'm checking the thread before I go to bed but one more time, we can't know the identities of anyone for sure it only creates wifom

For some people we can be close to 100% sure of their identity. For instance, I am close to 100% sure that keanuisgod is shapelog.
Even if you disagree, wouldn't the obvious identity of a smurf be helpful for some rough but effective metaing? ie if keanu aka shapelog has a huge filter, that doesn't necessarily point to him being town.

On February 10 2016 11:50 Wartrukk wrote:
I'm going to take a break I think I'm tunneled on the smurf hunting idea too hard. I'm not taking back what I said as I still think there is a clear mafia motivation for it but I can't articulate them properly it seems

I didn't realize you were actually tunneled on me for smurf hunting. Exactly how sure were you that I was scum?


I guess if meta reads are all you are confident in making then a 99% smurf read is fine I just don't think it's 100% even if you truly believe you are the smurf detective.

I used the word tunneled because I was tunneled on the idea that smurf huntingis super scummy and since you seemed, in my eyes, to be fighting me for no real reason.

I'm over the smurf thing now. Bhaal lom is still in my leanscum pile, NNN is null because i admit he posted some stuff (like early game to saitama) that I was thinking. Vald is coming out of the gate strong andI think that's towny, especially if he replaced in on short notice. Saitama had a weird early game and I had him as leanscum last night but I haven't read too closely the 30 or so posts from last night.


another point that I feel needs some clarification - this sounds like mindmeld to me, which people from their perspective, view as towny, so why is he still null? just wondering.

also if you can further discuss saita, that might be great. he's the one active player I'm having difficulty understanding.

You're honestly correct, we had a mindmeld on saitama's earlygame awkwardness but I was too stubborn to call it as such. nnn has been active in thread and looking towny since I last checked and read him pretty strongly as town now.

Saitama is looking scummy to me still but at the time of that post it was only due to his awkwardness early game. I've gone through his filter (thanks to this question) and noticed a few things. He says that he finds NNN and myself null and, when called out on the fact that he said we were doing towny things, backed it up saying there isn't enough to go on. Then, after a while says we're both leaning town. Maybe nnn did some stuff but I've been AFK for 24hrs or something, what did I do that made me townlean?
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On February 11 2016 02:58 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2016 00:59 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 11 2016 00:28 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
On February 11 2016 00:00 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 10 2016 23:26 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
Unfortunately, it smacks a bit townie.

Also no I don't expect much alignment indication in the start of the game. Hence, so much stuff is NAI.



So is it correct to assume you have the same read on both Wartruck and myself: bad players who are leaning townie?

And your definition of omgus is what? And we are leaning town because of the omgusing itself or because we omgused in a townie way?

That assumption is not correct. You are players who have done a bad play that is more often town than scum in alignment indication.

My definition of omgus is reading a player as scum simply because they read you as scum.

Neither of you has progressed from null.


Nothing you said here makes sense.
That assumption is not correct. You are players who have done a bad play that is more often town than scum in alignment indication.
If we have done something that more often comes from town, then that should lead to a town lean. On the spectrum of scum to town, we should be on the town side of null.

My definition of omgus is reading a player as scum simply because they read you as scum.
You are misrepresenting the reasons behind our suspicions. Wartrukk suspected me for smurf hunting. I suspected Wartrukk for being suspicious of smurf hunting. How did Wartrukk OMGUS at all?
I can understand why you'd think I OMGUSed, but realize that if he was suspecting someone else for smurf hunting, my suspicion would have still been there. So the true reason behind that suspicion isn't OMGUS either.

Coming into the thread early and saying "I'm town" also comes from town more often than scum.

Do you seriously expect me to immediately give them a town lean? Please. I weigh my reads before I give them.

And I took it on someone's word that wartrukk was omgusing you- so lynch me for not reading.

Finally, you did specifically state at one time "you are scumreading me for X? Then you are scum" which is practically omgus.

I will find it later. On phone.

On February 11 2016 08:59 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2016 08:16 keanuisgod wrote:
On February 11 2016 07:47 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
What, being a smurf and unable to fall back on some meta got everyone scared?

It's kind of good in that the thread is not being subjected to spam, but there comes a point where as scum I'd totally be lurking right now.


I think there's not much we can do now but try engaging in conversation with the current active players.

saita, what are your thoughts on: Warty and Bhaal?

I have to add on Warty, that on top of the "slight town" feeling I mentioned before, his "half-assed" semi-reads seem to mirror my half-assed semi-reads (except NNN I suppose), which in this abyss of content we call "thread" seems like a good sign (in the "it feels like a fellow townie" deal).


Bhaal has quit role playing. Looking forward to the future on that.

Wartrukk is still mostly null. I haven't formed strong reads yet.

I will say kush mountain and wartrukk are slight townleans after more thought put into this game. The motive behind their posting does not look destructive to me at this time.




It just feels like saitama is following thread sentiment. He calls out keanu for voting a scumread he's not confident in but once someone points out that voting is part of mafia saitama calls the subject of keanu's case (halo lamb) scummy.




Is the above only it?
Whoa!
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