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nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 13:26 GMT
#313
On February 12 2016 21:57 keanuisgod wrote:
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On February 12 2016 21:29 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 12 2016 10:03 keanuisgod wrote:
On February 12 2016 07:39 Wartrukk wrote:
Wow this wagon looks like trash


On February 12 2016 07:41 Wartrukk wrote:
Scumtama and lying LS on the same wagon on a lurker. Wowie


On February 12 2016 07:53 Wartrukk wrote:
Deadline is now, isn't it? I'm voting saitama i have real reasons but am still busy.


It's really nice to come back to activity 1-2 hours before the lynch and shout how the "wagon looks like trash" isn't it?
It's also really nice to vote right at the last moment to someone who is OBVIOUSLY not getting lynched and making no effort to try to get him lynched

It also isn't suspicious at all to vote someone completely unrelated to the lynch and wait until the last second (when you KNOW your vote doesn't count and thus you can't be held accountable for anything) by just saying "I have real reasons but am still busy"


Anyways, we know Bhaal is town now, so please explain your read on him. These are your only posts about him

On February 11 2016 05:33 Wartrukk wrote:
Bhaal lom is still in my leanscum pile.


On February 12 2016 06:20 Wartrukk wrote:
Why did halo lamb get a free pass?

Halo lamb types a lot like LS, to contradict my early game and smurfhunt


On February 12 2016 07:41 Wartrukk wrote:
Scumtama and lying LS on the same wagon on a lurker. Wowie


Why exactly was he in your "leanscum" pile? What does the "lying LS" thing have to do with anything? Did you even pay attention to my case on him and the later change of heart of many people in the thread about him?


When wartrukk came into the thread, the 77goldrom lynch was inevitable. Why does it matter who he voted?
Who he voted was obv not getting lynched, but 77 was just as obv getting lynched.
So youre pushing him on something he couldn't control.


From what I remember Wartruk was posting and stuff when I left, and I think before saitama and Bhaal have made their votes (thus it'd be 4 votes on Gold by then).

Either way, him making sporadic posts here and there but not following up what town is doing (like ... lynching someone, and having a previous wagon on Bhaal too) is scummy to me. Wasting your vote, depending on the situation is scummy too ... and I believe this is one of those situations.


So you are calling him scummy for not pushing his lynch harder. That's all I see in this argument.
Because at the point in time when he said 'this wagon sucks" and threw his vote away, there was nothing he could do. It's not fair to criticize him for his actions at that point.
How could he have NOT wasted his vote??

His scumreads look fine to me. Bhaal was straight up lying about his real identity. He was acting like a newb who hadn't played since 2013. He was pretty clearly LS who is not a newb and has played many games since 2013. I see a lot of scum motivation behind pretending you're a newb when you're not.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 13:50 GMT
#314
Look at NM's scum filter from newbie 18. Remind you of anyone?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/500060-newbie-student-mafia-xviii?user=NocturneMage
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 15:03 GMT
#317
Look at vlad's day 1.
He is tunneled on saitama but it never goes anwywhere. If he has a scumread, why not push that lynch? He never communicated why he doesn't want to push a saitama lynch.

Actually what he's doing looks like high level nitpicking. He is pointing little stuff wrong with what saitama is saying, but never actually connecting it to saitama being scum..
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 18:02 GMT
#320
So shape aka keanu, so agree with my on valdi. Do you agree that he's probably nm in which case it matches a lot of how he played in newbie 18?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 18:08 GMT
#322
On February 13 2016 03:07 keanuisgod wrote:
Ehmm, yeah, can't really answer that.

why not
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 18:11 GMT
#324
well shape you did leave that game early. hold on let me get a quote.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 18:17 GMT
#325
smurf hunting is allowed. How could you smurf hunt without confirming you aren't someone by saying someone else is...
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 18:25 GMT
#326
basically he focusing on things that he doesn't "understand' in peoples posts but doesn't really push scumreads.


On December 30 2015 10:26 NocturneMage wrote:
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On December 29 2015 20:17 Fidei86 wrote:
On December 29 2015 18:32 mderg wrote:
Meh, reading this thread is difficult when you don't know most of those names.

People are quick to jump on GB, I like that because his opening was fishy but I also don't like it because it feels too easy. I'll have to see how that continues.

Don't like GiygaS so far... Has made like 7 posts but I didn't see anything of substance. The fist reads also don't really seem that strong.

I have a slight townread on NocturneMage, he's being out there and being open about his thoughts. He's also asking lots of questions which makes me think he's trying to solve the game. He is a dirty league player, though...

I don't understand your read on Gigya versus your read on ShapeLog. I read Gigya's thread and I agree with what you say - it's basically soft town reads on a couple of people based on activity with the rest OOC filler. But then, look at ShapeLog's filter. It's mostly the same, except three times longer.


Can you explain this post when you can? You are saying that you agreed with the read on GigyaS, and thus you scumread him (????) but then you are making a like to like comparison to Shapelog who you are townreading? Can you explain if this affects your townread on Shapelog or whether it should because I don't otherwise understand what you are getting at here?

On January 05 2016 04:02 NocturneMage wrote:
FF, I had to read his list post several times to understand and I'm not sure I understand your analysis of your last post. the way I read that day 1 was him trying to look at it f<script id="gpt-impl-0.4290662574845557" src="http://partner.googleadservices.com/gpt/pubads_impl_79.js"></script>rom two different perspectives particularly on the Irish read:

(1) you have a new player not familiar with scott or TL for that matter scumreading scott under his own set of criteria and then
(2) you have Fidei who knows Scott and uses his own knowledge of Scott (see null list) to read him.

Furthermore Fidei uses other criteria to townread Irish. The question should be, what read/approach should make sense for Irish given his background and knowledge of the players and I can't see how Fidei's prior knowledge of Scott causing the difference in reads is a problem.

Basically I'm trying to understand what wording in that range of reads is reading as "paranoid" or even trying to appease someone.

The Cow interpretation - I am assuming the "weak read" comes from the ordering of the reads, so I had to read the Shapelog post again, to see if that justified a "stronger' townread from his worldview.

Having gotten coached as town before I've been told that list posts don't go over well with people so I'm not sure if Fidei has an inherent bias towards that, but I could argue at least between the Shapelog and the Cow posts, the Cow should have been ranked above Shapelog, since it appears that Shapelog read is based on tone, but this is also an area of extreme subjectivity for me, I know some people on this site really rely on tone reads and especially for day 1.

You might need to break it down to me line by line.

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this is getting lame and I think I'm starting to look for evidence that fits my conclusion rather than using the evidence t ocome to my conclusion but it really feels like fidei is trying really hard to show where his reads are coming from, moreso than he's trying to show his reads, if that makes sense.


Fidei could be mafia, don't get me wrong, but it wouldn't be for this.

nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 18:31 GMT
#327
Shape I dont give a fuck about playing in the spirit of the a smurf game. I just want to catch some scum.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 18:59 GMT
#330
Wartrukk is a townread.

This is kind of a dumbtell. It shows an unscumlike state of mind to mix people up. I think scum is more likely to pay attention to who scumreads them. It meshes with his idgaf attitude.
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On February 12 2016 15:20 Wartrukk wrote:
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On February 12 2016 15:10 keanuisgod wrote:
On February 12 2016 14:59 Wartrukk wrote:
lol nice omgus this is funny.


... how can it be OMGUS if you never accused me of anything ...

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wait what I thought saitama posted the other thing

oh well


On February 12 2016 15:20 Wartrukk wrote:
yeah it was you, saitama is the probe




Here he comes in the thread pre EoD and shits on the lynch. This is kind of a weird, tooscummytobescum point, but I don't think scum would come out against the lynch like this. They would be afraid it would look like tmi when he flipped town.
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On February 12 2016 07:39 Wartrukk wrote:
Wow this wagon looks like trash

On February 12 2016 07:41 Wartrukk wrote:
Scumtama and lying LS on the same wagon on a lurker. Wowie


nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 19:01 GMT
#331
valdi/iwasrobik
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 19:36 GMT
#335
On February 13 2016 04:25 keanuisgod wrote:
Now that you are here, what about Gargy?

I get the feeling he's too confrontational and "in-your-face" to be scum, but based on PoE he's up there, at least considering the facts (the vote on a lurker without many other contributions regarding scum, etc)


Yes. It is suspicious how he showed up right after bhaal mentioned him, deflected onto 77, then fucked off.

But I don't see him as especially scummy actually. He had solid points against 77.
Awkward opening, bad vt claim, late to the party, etc.
Plus you can't really fault someone for a lurker lynch..

It's a very weak read. Hopefully garg gives us more content to judge him off of.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 19:45 GMT
#336
On February 13 2016 04:27 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
Lol kush who am I?


You are cocky as hell so I'm gonna say SL.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 20:44 GMT
#338
On February 13 2016 05:42 keanuisgod wrote:
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On January 27 2016 06:46 Onegu wrote:
Activity:
You must post in this thread once per day/night cycle and vote every day while you are alive. If you fail to do so, you will be modkilled.


If you are town better not get modkilled Valdi


once per day/night cycle, not once per day and once per night.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 20:52 GMT
#340
On February 13 2016 05:48 Iwasrobik wrote:
So we're in MYLO if there is no save during the game. Will read the thread now


this is gonna be good
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 21:28 GMT
#344
On February 13 2016 06:26 keanuisgod wrote:
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On February 13 2016 06:15 Wartrukk wrote:
I can't believe every time i get town I get swamped witg work stuff. Have you figured out valdi's identity, NNN, or is there a case on him that i skipped? Who is iwasrobik is that another replace?


Pfff do like me and sneak in here while in work every 10 minutes lol


or do like me and pretend you are working but you are actually spamming refresh in the thread
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 21:40 GMT
#352
On February 13 2016 06:31 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2016 04:45 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On February 13 2016 04:27 saitamaofonepunch wrote:
Lol kush who am I?


You are cocky as hell so I'm gonna say SL.

Sicklucker?

But does my logic look anything like his?


either that or boxerfred?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 21:41 GMT
#353
On February 13 2016 06:15 Wartrukk wrote:
I can't believe every time i get town I get swamped witg work stuff. Have you figured out valdi's identity, NNN, or is there a case on him that i skipped? Who is iwasrobik is that another replace?


did youread what i wrote even... my entire case is pretty much assuming he's nocturnemage.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 23:06 GMT
#360
wow interesting nk
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
February 12 2016 23:07 GMT
#361
implicates wartrukk
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