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On February 17 2016 19:25 Iwasrobik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 19:14 Iwasrobik wrote:On February 17 2016 18:12 Iwasrobik wrote:On February 17 2016 15:57 GargamelxD wrote:
So this leads me to say: Why was Robik so confident about Valdi being scum when his other scumread was imo the main force behind that lynch? And that is another reason to me to suspect Robik more. This is bullshit. Who is that "other scumread of mine that was the main force behind Valdi's lynch" you're talking about ? Wait. You're talking about Kaenu here then. You're saying that it's weird that I scumread both Kaenu and Vald here: Show nested quote +On February 13 2016 07:00 Iwasrobik wrote:
Town:
Kush
Saimata
Probably town:
Wartruk
Maybe town:
Gargamel
Scum:
Keanu
Valdiano
Will explain in a little bit when I'm in front of my laptop During N1, because, Kaenu was the "main force behind Vlad's lynch". You cannot believe that for real. Kaenu at this point had only indicated Vlad as town.
Wtf are you talking about? Its super simple. At EoD 2 I was scumreading Keanu cause I thought he was covering Warty, he was voting Valdi and suspecting me additionally.
My point against you being that in this time your confidence into the valdi lynch never faltered even though your other scumread keanu was voting him, at least I believe you were scumreading him at the time.
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you just made me realize i was thinking that keanu was voting valdi back then:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 15 2016 04:48 GargamelxD wrote:
you call my argument a strawman and then proceed to post a strawman? hilarious.
youve never even made an accusation like the one on this page in the first place (which is the strawman), instead posted some theory how me and warty are mafia cause our votes are placed badly in your opinion. Why are they placed badly? Cause they're not on valdi.
Why are they bad and not on valdi? Cause you are voting valdi and not warty (even though you have a case for voting warty or me here).
For you to think that we are wasting our votes you have to think that we are town, which isn't in line with what you posted so far.
On February 17 2016 19:43 Iwasrobik wrote:
Why did you think Watruk tinfoiled on me ?
Cause you said you thought he town for tinfoil, which you by the way adressed as a joke not long ago so seems like an out of place question now (this makes it look like you're just spamming whatever you can in an attempt to make me look bad).
Why did you think Kaenu was the "main force behind Vlad's lynch" ?
Cause of my argument with him in which he went after me when I was wanting the warty lynch (this way actually preventing people from maybe wrongly going for warty ) and cause I wrongly believed he was voting for him earlier. For some reason I still give keanu most credit for that lynch, not you, cause he kept people on course while I didn't, and cause I don't remember you being particularly memorable or even around during our argument.
Why were you present 1h50 before D2 lynch and 30 minutes after it but AFK during it ?
Why did you never give a read on Vlad near D2's lynch when it was clear he was probably the lynch and you posted very close to the lynch ? Besides the "Vlad = HTS = town" read.
The afk arguments don't interest me, I see no reason why it should be an issue if I don't post during the night, I was around D1 to pick my lynch and push it, D2 to do the same, and at night I just couldnt be arsed to play mafia when we were awaiting the NK.
As for my Valdi read, it was a lazy read but I was somehow convinced I saw a town HTS posting there who was genuinely busy, I have nothing more to add to this. Im still convinced it was HTS but a busy and mafia one.
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On February 17 2016 21:54 keanuisgod wrote:
So Gargy, what do you think about my points about Warty? Do you agree with them (apparently)?
No, not really, cause I just read this:
On February 15 2016 05:45 Wartrukk wrote:
Right now I'm thinking robik and garg is the most likely scumteam
On February 15 2016 07:38 rsoultin wrote:Vote Count Valdiano (3): Iwasrobik, nnn_thekushmountains, keanuisgod Wartrukk (1): GargamelxD GargamelxD (1): Wartrukk Not Voting (1): Valdiano At this time, no one is slated to be lynched.
With 6 alive it takes 4 votes to lynchDay 1 ends in on 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here
Only votes there will be counted.
On February 15 2016 07:20 Wartrukk wrote:
Hm, should I switch so scum can't last minute hammer or what? Probably
On February 15 2016 07:41 Wartrukk wrote:
##unvote
##vote: valdiano
This makes warty still just as likely to be mafia (which would be nice so i didnt waste my energy on nothing yesterday actually  )
The reason for his switch doesn't make much sense if he believes me and robik to be mafia, he should have been confident that we were about to lose the game, not afraid that robik might switch to him leading to valdi being lynched anyway.
Imo this is still a strong point to be suspicious of him, mafia might have been afraid of ending up on the wrong wagon here, could easily have been tmi showing itself.
Btw the votecount is wrong, keanu voted just before that count, so try to count that in.
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On February 17 2016 22:18 Iwasrobik wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 20:21 GargamelxD wrote:you just made me realize i was thinking that keanu was voting valdi back then: + Show Spoiler +On February 15 2016 04:48 GargamelxD wrote:
you call my argument a strawman and then proceed to post a strawman? hilarious.
youve never even made an accusation like the one on this page in the first place (which is the strawman), instead posted some theory how me and warty are mafia cause our votes are placed badly in your opinion. Why are they placed badly? Cause they're not on valdi.
Why are they bad and not on valdi? Cause you are voting valdi and not warty (even though you have a case for voting warty or me here).
For you to think that we are wasting our votes you have to think that we are town, which isn't in line with what you posted so far. On February 17 2016 19:43 Iwasrobik wrote:
Why did you think Watruk tinfoiled on me ? Cause you said you thought he town for tinfoil, which you by the way adressed as a joke not long ago so seems like an out of place question now (this makes it look like you're just spamming whatever you can in an attempt to make me look bad). Again, for the third time, that didn't happen. I townread kaenu for tinfoil not Wartruk. Every point you said against me were false: "I used a dumbtell to townread wartruk and was apolegitic about it" => didn't happen "I townread wartruk because he tinfoiled me" => didn't happen. "I scumread Kaenu who was the main force behind Vlad's lynch" => didn't happen. Your recent suspicions against me are only starting now that I'm pretty sure you are the last scum, and are based on things that didn't happen. You're OMGUSing me. Nothing about Wartruk has changed, you didn't post any change to your read of him, but for some reason you're attacking me now. Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 20:21 GargamelxD wrote:Why did you think Kaenu was the "main force behind Vlad's lynch" ? Cause of my argument with him in which he went after me when I was wanting the warty lynch (this way actually preventing people from maybe wrongly going for warty ) and cause I wrongly believed he was voting for him earlier. For some reason I still give keanu most credit for that lynch, not you, cause he kept people on course while I didn't, and cause I don't remember you being particularly memorable or even around during our argument. You're wrong. I'm telling you you're lying when you're saying " I still give keanu most credit for that lynch, not you, cause he kept people on course while I didn't, and cause I don't remember you being particularly memorable or even around during our argument". Prove it's true or shut up.
If that didn't happen then what is the reason for you townreading Warty? The dumbtell was a joke, the tinfoil is wrong, so what are we left with for you to TR him all of a sudden?
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There's still the fact remaining that now that we've dug up to the point that we know you aren't confident on either me or Warty, you are confident enough to put all eggs in a basket at mylo instead of no lynching, all cause you've written one case, but while having other arguments on warty you didn't seem to want to dig up.
You also don't seem interested into what me and keanu bring up on warty, just into lynching me.
Overall it's not helpful that you and warty show a similar behaviour in this, makes it harder to figure out the last one between you.
Anyone can write a case on someone in this game and sound somewhat right, but there's only one solution, and you believe you found it after your echange with warty that still leaves me wondering why you let him off the hook so quickly if not for convenience.
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And the tactical afking is a pretty bad argument too, as activity is strictly individual and we're in a smurf game, doesn't matter if you mention others doing it.
I also don't see any relations between Valdi and me or warty that aren't relations Valdi wanted to be in the game.
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slam dunk? Is that goddamn BH?
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On February 17 2016 22:59 Iwasrobik wrote:
To add on "AFKing on tactical moments without explanation"
Rels and Superbia did it in PYP.
Palmar did it in Star Wars.
Vlad did it in this game.
It is something scum just feels the need to do sometimes as posting all the time as scum is super hard.
If activity is so predictive of mafia, why was the D1 lynch town? Sod off with such arguments, they are the kind of arguments that you can disprove with 1 example. They come from people who think can prove all apples are red by trying to find red apples....
@ Keanu
The no lynch thingy actually holds true (unless warty wasnt sure whether valdi would show up to vote), but even then last minute stuff is risky and he didnt know if I was actually around, so idk if I can just buy it so easily. It's a get out of jail free card if we apply it and he's mafia.
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On February 17 2016 23:08 keanuisgod wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 22:29 GargamelxD wrote:On February 17 2016 21:54 keanuisgod wrote:
So Gargy, what do you think about my points about Warty? Do you agree with them (apparently)? No, not really, cause I just read this:. What exactly about what I posted about Warty do you not agree with? I mentioned 4 points, please post what you disagree with them. Gargy, if you are town then from your POV robik should really be scum, so you really should find more incriminating stuff about him, not "dumbtell lies" or confusing shit. Either that or you are NOT making it clear why you think Warty could still be scum, in a believable way at least (based on what was already said about Warty).
If his confidence into me being mafia and warty being town that literally came out of the blue and before he actually posted the case on me isn't an argument to you, then lynch me, but lose the game.
I already didn't care on D2 when I believed we were going to lose, so I won't care today either. I will do stuff when Im arsed to, but asking me to just eat up your version of events and start posting cases on Robik is insanity. Don't worry however, I'm not done posting.
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Well fine, lynch me and then good luck with the save.
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But if you really care to win you should do some rereads on your own, not expect only me to read things and find the correct solution to why one of robik or warty is mafia.
Been in the situation before where you are the main suspect and supposed to be the one delivering cases on everyone else. No, fuck that, you have to do that too.
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Oh deadline is today? In that case I advise you to no lynch cause I don't plan on putting in any more effort today. Otherwise it's your loss, don't say I didn't warn you :>
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Meh will have to settle down for Robik to be town, I'm pretty confident he is, I'm also pretty confident its rels
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So yeah at least I was right on warty yesterday, keanus argument is pretty but dead wrong. Warty went for the endgame cred instead of a risky play.
And with this, since I figure you will never ever believe I am town, lynch me, good luck with the save (its a 50 50) and then lynch warty.
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im on phone, so ill be brief. i townread robik for some of his questioning of warty earlier on, and a few other posts that just seemed like he was genuinely pointung out stuff that did t make sense. call it feqr mongering but its just facts, qfter my lynch u kill warty if town survives the night
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On February 18 2016 03:33 Wartrukk wrote:
I feel like there's not much for me to say here as garg digs himself a nice cozy hole but hi rels
yours is already pretty deep too so enjoy the 50 percent chance of winning when the night is over
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