EPTAbout scott, it's harder to build a convincing case against him because of his lack of content. I can say that his reasoning for wanting to lynch tumble looks made up. Then there was Jesus implying Eden was town then saying he was up in the air.
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
About scott, it's harder to build a convincing case against him because of his lack of content. I can say that his reasoning for wanting to lynch tumble looks made up. Then there was Jesus implying Eden was town then saying he was up in the air. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
Present your case | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On February 02 2016 21:56 _MexicanAlien wrote: Why don't you give your opinion and then ask for others'? Present your case My opinion should be abundantly clear. As for my case, I've been making it. On Scott, I just made it. His reads are bs. There's nothing more that needs to be said. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5188 Posts
If I don't live to see the night, I want to go down a hero. It's time... time for the BIG OL' POSTS [url=http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/blackberry-10-os-f269/364758d1432847742t-phonearena-blackberry-has-given-up-bb10-os-o-boy.jpg]ohhhh boy[/url] Do you ever tunnel so hard that you get to the other side? Because I think I see the light. Shapelog + Show Spoiler + We're starting way too early. + Show Spoiler + On January 27 2016 06:37 Shapelog wrote: Its a dumbtell I guess it is the best way to say it. I mean it doesn't auto make him town if he does do it, it just something I see him do as vt. It's like syrup on a sundae, it's a condiment. Also When I Town/mafia read him I will say what it is. This is a weird way to establish a presence. I can't point to this directly as mafia, but there's something... off about it. + Show Spoiler + On January 27 2016 06:41 Shapelog wrote: I am not trying to read him lol. I am just saying there is something he does and as the day(s) goes on I will look for it, if it is absent, I will comment on it. Unless your scum team kills me, in which case i can just use it later on  .I am of the opinion that an out-of-place town slip is a mafia slip in disguise. The second line has no purpose except for that "your scum team". + Show Spoiler + On January 27 2016 07:39 Shapelog wrote: I am just trying to help solve/point into a direction this game b/4 I have to get off at 6 ish. He had made one post tops trying to do that by then, and it was just stating the obvious. Shapelog is also really eager to explain things away, even if his explanation doesn't quite have the support. + Show Spoiler + On January 27 2016 07:05 Shapelog wrote: OH I see why everyone is confused. I joked that Kush was scum while saying that. This explanation doesn't make sense to me. Does it make sense to you? + Show Spoiler + On January 27 2016 16:34 Shapelog wrote: Like sure his above posts are good. But they are 2 posts. And one of them is about set up (which thank you btw Eden for taking the time to explain) I don't think that warrants a strong TR. Idk you have played with Eden b/4. But to me it sounds like your trying to buddy/pocket him. Trying to buddy/pocket him? Do people even do that? + Show Spoiler + On January 28 2016 10:50 Shapelog wrote: Who knows maybe Tumble suffers from what i suffer from which is he reads the thread and at the end feels lost. Nah He tried to explain my actions, and with no evidence, but then he entirely un-committed. + Show Spoiler + On January 30 2016 08:00 Shapelog wrote: So if he knew/guess/predicted that darth was bread crumbing....... Would he, as scum, not rb/nk darth? I mean maybe he got talked out of it but idk. it is weird that he saw it as a bread crumb in the first place, but it is even weirder that it turned out true AND darth has been unscaved. idk tbh what to think about it He didn't even bother to check whether I was right. He made the connection between a comment on breadcrumbing and a blue role, but there's nothing there. There were some things he said and not followed up on... + Show Spoiler + On January 27 2016 06:39 Shapelog wrote: Btw I will log off around 6 pm in my local time and won't get on till 8 am since I won't have a home Cp. till tomorrow. He didn't log off for any significant time until half a day later. + Show Spoiler + On January 27 2016 17:04 Shapelog wrote: Eh i let you guys duel. It is 3 am. I am done. For shapelog in da future: Catch up Filter Drive: Onegu Deathfy Kush TW - I want to vist that scum case on me again. Low active people. He only followed up on one of those filters. ...until I pointed it out. Only after I noticed did he start following up on his promises, which only happens when someone's concerned about being scumread. His reads are also all over the place. + Show Spoiler + On January 29 2016 01:14 Shapelog wrote: Actually that scum slip is ridiculously huge if he is scum and gets lynched. Maybe I am wrong about my Tinfoil Team, Maybe one of Eden/Darth isn't scum and instead Kura is scum. Goes from Eden/Darth to Kura On January 29 2016 02:26 Shapelog wrote: On Ikido, goes from scum to town to scum again to "let me consider it". Gave himself backdoors to vote any of three different people, now including Jesus but only after others had read him significantly. He voted Ikidomari then Kuragari, said (and I quote) "Ikido is mafia", called me "opportunistic scum", and votes Jesus out of the blue (citing kush's post as reasoning)... he had the single most votes of anybody that day, and he's still going with PMT/Trfel/me/Jesus as his scum reads (Eden, too, before she was killed). I usaullay reach the light on the otherside of the tunnel just to find myself in townville instead of mafiaville. | ||
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nooniansoong
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Shapelog
United States5188 Posts
Like most of your stuff is just either wrong or not even a scummy thing. Section "There were something he said and not followed up on: 1st, i said that i got a new GPU and thank the USP gods for it. That does not even make me scum if i didn't. 2nd, I followed up on Onegu, PMT, and someone else (i can not remember who) Desperate scum is Desperate, aren't you Tumbledore? | ||
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Shapelog
United States5188 Posts
On February 02 2016 22:22 nooniansoong wrote: shape, the preview button is your friend Fuck. That. Shit. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/KVuxioh.jpg) ^You people ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/XWDaOSg.jpg) ^Me | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
His case doesn't make you scum, but I can see the confirmation bias making him believe that it does. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5188 Posts
On February 02 2016 22:32 nooniansoong wrote: Shape, step back for a sec and realize that you and tumble are two townies tunneling each other. His case doesn't make you scum, but I can see the confirmation bias making him believe that it does. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xxDkFId.jpg) I am town he is scum | ||
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Shapelog
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Shapelog
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If we are going to use the newbie card for everything. There be too many yellow cards being thrown. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
Why did the Mafia kill Eden1892? How does this benefit the Mafia? I've thought of two answers. 1. Eden1892 was getting too close to the truth. 2. Killing Eden1892 somehow made scum less suspicious. On answer #1 + Show Spoiler + Eden decided(with his town reads), that the Mafia must come from PepperMintTea, nooniansoong, and Tumblewood. {post #1691} He went on to scum read Tumblewood and nooniansoong. Eden saw that •Ikidomari was flip floppy on Tumblewood •Ikidomari thought Trfel was for sure Mafia •Ikidomari attacked Trfel for Trfel's tumblewood read He used this information to associate Ikidomari with Tumblewood. Eden does the same thing with nooniansoong, using the weirdness of noon's attack on Trfel, his town read on Eden, and his being on IKidomari's null/watch list. I actually this this is good case. Due to my association read of Eden1892 (which was completely wrong), I thought by more association that Trfel was scum. But definitely less likely now. If reason #1, I can believe a Tumble wood and nooniansoong scumteam. On answer #2 + Show Spoiler + Let's think of the people who would look less suspicious if Eden1892 were to die and flip town. This would include: • Eden's town reads •People who had a lot of interaction with Eden (especially near the end) The people who fit best into those categories are: _MexicanAlien Trfel darthfoley MexicanAlien. Eden1892 flying off the handle at me (loads of useless talk) but near the end giving me a 'basically confirmed town' would really help me as scum. Trfel. This guy seems to have been really buddying Eden a lot, especially for having scum read Eden. He mostly stayed in the background early in the game without making many connections, but then came out and agreed with almost everything Eden says. Also, Eden was town reading Trfel for a good amount of time, so this could leave Trfel with still a clear name. darthfoley. He's vigilante. 'Nuff said. I feel much less confident in this reason than in #1, mostly because of less powerful logic. If reason #2, Trfel is Mafia. I don't have any idea as to who his scummate would be, too tired at this point. Just some reasoning. Really tired and need to do some application forms for summer programs, catch y'all later. | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
Scumteam killed eden because of the nk analysis WIFOM. Also Eden put in a lot of discussion and analysis which helps town. Maybe they couldn't kill DF because of the doctor? They didn't want to kill me because that would implicate the scumteam. | ||
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nooniansoong
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On February 02 2016 22:55 _MexicanAlien wrote: OK, so on the night kill. Why did the Mafia kill Eden1892? How does this benefit the Mafia? I've thought of two answers. 1. Eden1892 was getting too close to the truth. 2. Killing Eden1892 somehow made scum less suspicious. On answer #1 + Show Spoiler + Eden decided(with his town reads), that the Mafia must come from PepperMintTea, nooniansoong, and Tumblewood. {post #1691} He went on to scum read Tumblewood and nooniansoong. Eden saw that •Ikidomari was flip floppy on Tumblewood •Ikidomari thought Trfel was for sure Mafia •Ikidomari attacked Trfel for Trfel's tumblewood read He used this information to associate Ikidomari with Tumblewood. Eden does the same thing with nooniansoong, using the weirdness of noon's attack on Trfel, his town read on Eden, and his being on IKidomari's null/watch list. I actually this this is good case. Due to my association read of Eden1892 (which was completely wrong), I thought by more association that Trfel was scum. But definitely less likely now. If reason #1, I can believe a Tumble wood and nooniansoong scumteam. On answer #2 + Show Spoiler + Let's think of the people who would look less suspicious if Eden1892 were to die and flip town. This would include: • Eden's town reads •People who had a lot of interaction with Eden (especially near the end) The people who fit best into those categories are: _MexicanAlien Trfel darthfoley MexicanAlien. Eden1892 flying off the handle at me (loads of useless talk) but near the end giving me a 'basically confirmed town' would really help me as scum. Trfel. This guy seems to have been really buddying Eden a lot, especially for having scum read Eden. He mostly stayed in the background early in the game without making many connections, but then came out and agreed with almost everything Eden says. Also, Eden was town reading Trfel for a good amount of time, so this could leave Trfel with still a clear name. darthfoley. He's vigilante. 'Nuff said. I feel much less confident in this reason than in #1, mostly because of less powerful logic. If reason #2, Trfel is Mafia. I don't have any idea as to who his scummate would be, too tired at this point. Just some reasoning. Really tired and need to do some application forms for summer programs, catch y'all later. Using read #1, isn't the Eden NK the perfect one from PMT's perspective? If you believe that he was too close to the truth, his scum association read-- which, by the way, I really like too-- is Tumblewood + Kush. However, he lumped PMT into this category, but ended up kind of nulling/slightly clearing her (have to re-look at that). So, Eden dies, and if you believe reason #1, everyone latches onto Kush and Tumblewood. Everyone focuses in on Tumblewood and Kush because of the association read, and most forget about PMT being in that category. It would be great for her, because let's say we mislynch Kush or Tumblewood who flip town. People will probably then decide that reason #2 is the real reason Eden was NK'd. Town turns its attention to people who may have looked less suspicious from the Eden NK, and PMT coasts even farther into the game without having contributed any reads over the past two days. This is simply a hypothesis, but one I intend to pursue, on the off chance that I find anything. | ||
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_MexicanAlien
South Africa193 Posts
Also, if you look at her play, it has gone from "good analysis/trying to solve"(which looks very pro-town) to this sort of 'I don't care what happens I'll lynch whoever' attitude. From very pro town, good analyzing, little activity To bad/unexplained reads and votes, half-assed play, almost no activity. | ||
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darthfoley
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nooniansoong
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Look back at her cases. Those are townie and good. And she's not wrong about scott. | ||
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nooniansoong
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Shapelog
United States5188 Posts
Not posting is a bit sus. though. | ||
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But two mafia down gives us 192 hours to find the last mafia, so there shouldn't be any rush 
