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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 31 2016 21:01 GMT
#1545
Fucking right.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 31 2016 21:01 GMT
#1546
JesusIncarnate is replaced by scott31337.

well bummer. Thought we could get the 2-for-1
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 31 2016 21:03 GMT
#1547
On February 01 2016 05:58 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 05:57 Eden1892 wrote:
Whatever, you're a dick and probably next anyway.
Okay, thanks, that was the reaction I was digging for.

I guess that might not have been the nicest thing to do, though, so I'm sorry.

digging for that reaction for what purpose? you done pretending to care about the game and satisfied just shit-stirring at this point?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 31 2016 21:14 GMT
#1552
This whole game is just annoying really. I feel like my schedule and the high density of uninspiring posts when I've been away from the game have virtually taken me out of it. Probably should have /outed but that's life.

At least we got one and my day 1 wasn't a total waste.

Anyway scott needs to do something quick now that the burden is on us to lynch Jesus's slot and we don't get any freebies.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
January 31 2016 21:15 GMT
#1554
The Iki flip makes me town because if I were Iki's partner we could have easily lynched Trfel together instead of shipping Iki out.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2016 01:08 GMT
#1604
My working theory before actually reexamining his reads is that, as I noted initially, the 3-3-3 reads were fabricated. I doubt he townread any of his teammates unless they were widely townread. Probably he left one of them off and null'd the other.

Of course the other thing to note is that he flip flopped on Jesus between his fabricated reads and his 3-3-3 reads. I can't reread that right now but I would bet it will clearly tell us Jesus's alignment.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2016 03:45 GMT
#1643
On February 01 2016 11:53 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 10:08 Eden1892 wrote:
My working theory before actually reexamining his reads is that, as I noted initially, the 3-3-3 reads were fabricated. I doubt he townread any of his teammates unless they were widely townread. Probably he left one of them off and null'd the other.

Of course the other thing to note is that he flip flopped on Jesus between his fabricated reads and his 3-3-3 reads. I can't reread that right now but I would bet it will clearly tell us Jesus's alignment.


How can you even say what he 'probably' did? You cannot put yourself in his position, not if you gro how to be accurate. And a flip flop for Jesus does not mean his read will 'clearly tell us Jesus's alignment.

Also, why can't you reread it right now?

Why are you being so goddamned difficult with everybody this game? Christ you're annoying.

I was at work when I posted that, so I couldn't reread it right then.
I can say what he 'probably' did because I've played a lot of games of mafia and have learned to recognize patterns in first-level scum behavior. It's how I caught Iki in the first place. I've more than proven myself on that front, so why are you being such a fucking twat when I submit a theory for review during a free minute at work?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2016 03:45 GMT
#1644
On February 01 2016 12:44 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 12:36 _MexicanAlien wrote:
On January 29 2016 09:43 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Scum quote of the year:
I switched my vote to him because his reads didn't seem very interesting


Courtesy of resident scumbag Trfel.


I know this isn't relevant anymore to the case, but let's not forget this gem.
See, this is what I'm getting at.

You can't blame me for avoiding you when you're rubbing my face in the mud every time you're in the thread. Calling me scum is one thing, this kind of attitude is different.

Yeah this guy is a piece of shit and makes me want to policy lynch him tbh.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2016 03:45 GMT
#1645
**this guy = Mex
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2016 03:46 GMT
#1646
On February 01 2016 11:49 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 11:08 nooniansoong wrote:
On February 01 2016 11:00 Trfel wrote:
Does anyone else think it's funny how often Eden has brought up his going back and forth with darthfoley last game?

And how adamant Eden and Ikidomari are that they can't be scum together?


no.
and no.

Going back and forth with darth last game is relevant because he did the same thing with ikido. Why wouldn't he bring it up as town?

He's adamant he can't be scum with Ikido because he sees himself as the principle pusher of ikido, which actually he was. There was a very complicated interaction with him in which he scumread ikido and then he didn't and then he did again. It's tinfoily to say that's scum vs scum.
Then there's the fact that he brought up of how he could have easily killed you rather than ikido today if he were scum.

Do you expect townEden to say "well I suppose I could be scum with Ikido"? Maybe but it would be kinda weird.


Oh please, he took 5 minutes to OMGUS, then he had me and darthfoley backing him, but he decided 'oh shame poor little Ikidomari hes just a little noob.' He wanted to look like he was fully scumming ikidomari. Then, after iki came back under town suspicion, eden1892 pretended he was scum reading the whole time.

to 'omgus'????

I accused him first you moron. He townread me in his big reads list.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2016 03:49 GMT
#1649
Don't do what? Rid the thread of a useless, toxic player?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2016 03:51 GMT
#1652
On February 01 2016 12:50 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 12:45 Eden1892 wrote:

Why are you being so goddamned difficult with everybody this game? Christ you're annoying.

I was at work when I posted that, so I couldn't reread it right then.
I can say what he 'probably' did because I've played a lot of games of mafia and have learned to recognize patterns in first-level scum behavior. It's how I caught Iki in the first place. I've more than proven myself on that front, so why are you being such a fucking twat when I submit a theory for review during a free minute at work?


How am I supposed to know that? Really.

You're not,

but you're not supposed to be a fucking twat to people every time they don't do exactly what you would want them to do right when you want it.

Dumbass.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2016 03:52 GMT
#1653
Like it's so fucking easy.

Someone says they can't do something right now.
Instead of getting in their face about it and coming after them aggressively like you do, you give them time to get back to it, and question them later if they don't.

Doing what you do only pushes scum agenda because it's substantially demotivating to play a game with stringent assholes that get in your face over irrelevant shit.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2016 03:53 GMT
#1656
On February 01 2016 12:52 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 12:49 Eden1892 wrote:
Don't do what? Rid the thread of a useless, toxic player?

I knowi can't be objective with this, but getting rid ofa player because he's useless is alwaysa bad idea, unless you have scumread on him/her.

Look at Shapelog. He's still in. Why have you not gotten rid of him? He's gotten slightly better since the beginning but still

Maybe you could just take a fucking hint and stop being an asshole so we don't have to pursue bad ideas then??
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2016 03:54 GMT
#1657
On February 01 2016 12:52 darthfoley wrote:
Eden, what do you think town's best course of action is over the next day or two?

Trfel, what do you think town's best course of action is over the next day or two?

MexicanAlien, what do you think town's best course of action is over the next day or two?

Man let me fucking vent at this kid for two seconds before I get back to it. This shit has been pissing me off all game and it's got to stop.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2016 04:02 GMT
#1665
It's just so frustrating. This whole game has been.

I've been super demotivated and not at all wanting to put in effort this game because every time I've had something to argue or what I felt was a good point, Onegu or this Mex kid or somebody else has to jump in and act like the big shot and show everyone how big his e-peen is with insults or dumb aggressive questioning.

It's the whole reason (besides reduced accessibility due to work) why I stopped playing for half a year in the first place. This place gets so fucking toxic with its games. Half the player base has no fucking clue how to have a civil conversation or pursue fair questions.

I don't have all day to play mafia, and I have additional personal issues when I play. Most notably I have a terrible issue focusing. It's why I tend to get talked out of good cases against scum (happened 2x in a row 2 games running) and the main reason I'm not as good as I potentially could be.

So when I come back on, and have a lot of information to process, and on top of that there are toxic jackasses flooding the thread with useless aggressive questioning, I reach the "fuck it" point really quick and just don't even bother trying to catch up. You'll notice a lot of my successful cases come when I happen to be online at the same time something scummy happens. I very rarely catch anything from rereading, because I don't reread much.

Is it too much to ask for people to stop being dicks so I can focus on what matters?? Please?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2016 04:02 GMT
#1666
On February 01 2016 13:00 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 12:56 darthfoley wrote:
I think the lack of useful discussion is something to be mindful of. Don't think it's simply random


Oh so like the scum are getting edgy because their teammate just got lynched, and now they want to promote useless talk. Makes sense, good thinking

Yeah the teammate I pushed into the spotlight in the first place and pushed over the top today.

Moron.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2016 04:03 GMT
#1667
Never mind that you started it to begin with. You promoted this line of conversation. If you hadn't been a pushy, self-righteous jackass we wouldn't be having this discussion.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2016 04:05 GMT
#1669
It's incredible to me that somebody can scumread people for "promoting useless talk" after actively provoking the conversation that he then goes on to call "useless talk." Just incredible.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
February 01 2016 04:06 GMT
#1671
On February 01 2016 13:05 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 13:00 _MexicanAlien wrote:
On February 01 2016 12:56 darthfoley wrote:
I think the lack of useful discussion is something to be mindful of. Don't think it's simply random


Oh so like the scum are getting edgy because their teammate just got lynched, and now they want to promote useless talk. Makes sense, good thinking
Basically every time that the thread is toxic, it's caused by town. Any game.

To both of you.

...huh. That's actually a pretty cool insight. I never thought about it, but this is actually true in my experience too.

I wonder why that is. But that's probably not a useful conversation. Maybe a postgame discussion.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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