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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
February 08 2016 15:18 GMT
#2321
On February 07 2016 07:50 Trfel wrote:
_MexicanAlien is town because of my super duper special secret read

Why Trofl Why! Even in death you troll me with this secret read!
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
February 08 2016 15:30 GMT
#2322
Jeez PMT has not even wrote more than a page in filter for almost 6 days.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
February 08 2016 17:39 GMT
#2323
TIME TO GET REAL
[image loading]


Alright it is time I actually get real. As much as I am willing to delay this game till Friday, ain't nobody got time for that. (also other mafia obligations but shhh). So Shall we start?

Out of POE, the only 2 people who could be scum is MA and PMT. Lets start with Analyzing final votes shall we?
Day 1:+ Show Spoiler +



Final vote count:

Kuragari42 (6): Alur, darthfoley, PepperMintTea, darthfoley, PepperMintTea, Trfel, Shapelog, Eden1892
JesusIncarnate (3): nooniansoong, darthfoley, Ikidomari, Tumblewood
Tumblewood (2): Trfel, darthfoley, _MexicanAlien, Kuragari42
Ikidomari (0): Eden1892, _MexicanAlien, Eden1892, Shapelog
Trfel (0): Eden1892
Onegu (0): Eden1892, Shapelog, nooniansoong, Trfel, PepperMintTea
PepperMintTea (0): nooniansoong, Shapelog

Not voting (2): JesusIncarnate, Onegu



So Day 1, PMT is on the Kura Wagon and MA is on the Tumble Wagon. It makes no sense for scum (IMO) to even waste their vote D1 on a team mate. Especially when you could easily hide on the other wagon (Jesus) like the other 2 did. PMT votes also help tip the Kura wagon into favor.

Also lets talk about her reasonsing for a sec:
The reason I didn't vote for jesus was because I thought he was going to turn out to be a role or at least that is how I read his blatant lack of investment. iko didn't post but when he finally started playing it was apologetic.
Jesus by contrast was arrogant and he read like a role that didn't want to get townread to hard. I felt that if he was pushed then he would claim a role and I didn't want to get involved in that.

This is the same prob. I had with Tumble. Why is she even reading things and thinking about "Hmmm this person might have a role." As town? I could maybe see a town doing it, in trying to get a blue not lynched or revealed. But it seems very unlikely (especially when a dead scum has done it (tumble))

Day 2:+ Show Spoiler +



Final vote count:

Ikidomari (4): Trfel, darthfoley, Eden1892, PepperMintTea
Trfel (2): nooniansoong, _MexicanAlien, darthfoley
Eden1892 (1): Shapelog
Shapelog (1): Tumblewood
JesusIncarnate (0): Shapelog, PepperMintTea, Eden1892
Tumblewood (0): Trfel

Not voting (2): JesusIncarnate, Ikidomari



So D2, MA is on the Trfel Wagon and PMT is on the Ikido Wagon.

It might be strange that MA is on the town wagon, and PMT is on the scum wagon. But here is the thing. MA was on when the wagon was 4-2. I feel, that someone like MA, would go ahead and bus his team mate (even if he got it 3-3 Ikido would still get lynched) instead of not getting that bit of cred.

On February 01 2016 04:39 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Tumblewood, it is obvious voting for Shapelog won't affect anything. You should stop this flip flop and vote for one of your other scum reads. If you don't have any others that is very weird/suspicious. Come on, seriously

Lets ponder this for a sec. If MA & Tumbledore is a scum team. Shouldn't this go into the QT? Wouldn't he want (if he was let say going for a save on ikdio) want Tumble to vote on the wagon that Helps ikido? Even if he was not, Why would he not recommend that Tumble vote for Ikido due to the fact that Tumble was sus. at the Time?

PMT just hop on the ikido wagon because Ikido did not pay back his pass. Even though in the same post, she admits to NOT reading the thread. How can you not really read the thread and vote for someone? Sounds like a scum trying to find a semi-reasonable way to bus.

Day 3:+ Show Spoiler +



Final vote count:

Tumblewood (5): Shapelog, Trfel, scott31337, darthfoley, PepperMintTea, PepperMintTea
scott31337 (1): PepperMintTea, nooniansoong, darthfoley, PepperMintTea
nooniansoong (1): _MexicanAlien
Shapelog (1): Tumblewood
Trfel (0): nooniansoong



So D3, MA on the wagon of Kush (Tunneled) and PMT joins last on the Tumbledore wagon.

I have started to see that MA, for some reason, has always been on a wagon with 2 or less voters come the end of the cycle. He appears to not be on for the Dead line, But yet he always ends up in this. Maybe it is a considence?

MA reasoning:
On February 03 2016 18:03 _MexicanAlien wrote:
I think nooniansoong is quite weird concerning his play/activity.

thoughts on nooniansoong
+ Show Spoiler +

Early on in the game he refused to give explanations of his townreads time and time again, because he didn't want to ' give them a free defense'. This made a little bit of sense while the game was still young, but it doesn't later because you should want to prove to the rest of town that your townreads are true, so you can go on hunting scum.

With his scumreads, not posting them initially also makes a little bit of sense, but again, as the game goes on, you should be willing to prove/back up your reads. nooniansoong's play seemed very 'I read X, Y, Z as town and A, B, C as scum, but I don't want to tell you why. Because I'm too cool and I'm going to be right.'

It seems his apparent willingness to at least partially share his reasoning (however copied and repetitive it may be) now is the fact that he has been coming under increasing suspicion as the game moves along. So, to try to appear helpful and town, he posts a lot more.

also, nooniansoong seems almost too willing to let the newbs (me, shapelog, ect) direct the rest of town with bad reads and seems to go along with unspoken newb consensus. he seems to promote the suspicions and reads of the newbies as long as they don't conflict with his agenda.




I can see someone who is new making this case. He had good points throughout the mini case. And then Tunneled.

Now PMT Reasons:
On February 01 2016 07:03 PepperMintTea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 07:00 Trfel wrote:
Just please, please, give scott31337 a chance to be read one way or another. Not doing so is really stupid.


Here's what happens

He has no knowledge of the game so far

He isn't going to go through 70 pages in a detailed manner so he will skim read and come up with something not particularly useful. Just some basic surface stuff.

He will still be a massive question mark

Jesus was scummy and decided not to play. Scott won't remove that for me so I am lynching him regardless


Which if you think about it, goes against him thinking that Scott was a role. In fact, it goes against her whole day 1 voting reasoning. It is basically a P lynch. It even feels like she was trying to find a reason to vote off someone.

Day 4:+ Show Spoiler +



[blue]Final vote count:

nooniansoong (3): [blue] scott31337 , Trfel, PepperMintTea, Shapelog, _MexicanAlien
PepperMintTea (3): nooniansoong, Trfel, Shapelog



So both MA and PMT both voted for Kush. MA for the reasons stated in D3 (which caused him to tunnel)

Pmt Reason was:......P lynch and counter wagon? In fact PMT did not even state excellently why she was voting him off.



BUT SHAPELOG! WHAT DOES THEIR FILTER TASTE LIKE?


MA, 9 Pages: Strong determination to solve the game early on. MA wanted to progress town (even if he didn't know how to). His activity has drop servery during D2 or D3. BUT HE HAD REAL LIFE REASONS such as blackouts blah blah blah. His latest activity shows town intentions (which i guess could come from scum b/c of it being close to LYLO). If I had to pick one of the 2 as town. He would be it.

PMT 4 Pages, 1 Page over 6 days: PMT was very active the 1st day. She came into the game with enthusiastic Posts. However, her activity has drop servery. Which is a very common newbie mafia tell from what i have heard. (also for people who TR her due to not being active, you just supported her being inactive, to which I say thank you.)

On February 07 2016 06:33 PepperMintTea wrote:
Oh thought the game would be over. Don't know who the last mafia is but I have a good test

This post makes me feel weird. If she was town, instead of doing a test, she SHOULD be trying to prove which one of the Non confirm townies (Me and MA) was scum! She is letting us basically lynch us. I feel like if she is scum, that her play is a WIFOM play. Where she does not want to appear concern about the lynch, therefore does not seem scum.


Summary

I think that PMT is scum. I feel VERY confident that PMT is scum. If she comes back and posts town rainbows. Then we do a No lynch. Otherwise i think we can win tomorrow.

##Vote: PMT

I am still open to a No lynch btw scott.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
February 08 2016 18:05 GMT
#2324
I just realized if i was to take a shot for every page of my filter. I would die of poisoning.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
_MexicanAlien
Profile Joined January 2016
South Africa193 Posts
February 08 2016 19:42 GMT
#2325
Shapelog,I just want to say for all I think bad about you, is really hard not to just laugh at your posts (in a good, funny way). Thanks for being so non-boring man. Sorry for any angst coming your way from me.
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you criticize him, you're a mile away and you have his shoes.
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 08 2016 19:45 GMT
#2326
:popcorn:
nooniansoong
Profile Joined December 2015
1538 Posts
February 08 2016 19:45 GMT
#2327
::popcorn::
_MexicanAlien
Profile Joined January 2016
South Africa193 Posts
February 08 2016 19:48 GMT
#2328
Also, in response to your " Game Face" post above, I think you are really doing great with your reads, some of it is a bit.... Uhhhh you know it doesn't seem convincing, but most of it is spot on with how it feels. I agree with you and I really am wondering....

Where in the World is PepperMintTea?(aka Carmen San Diego)

Ah, the old days of geography.
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you criticize him, you're a mile away and you have his shoes.
_MexicanAlien
Profile Joined January 2016
South Africa193 Posts
February 08 2016 19:50 GMT
#2329
On February 09 2016 04:45 nooniansoong wrote:
:popcorn:


:fail:

::fail::
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you criticize him, you're a mile away and you have his shoes.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
February 08 2016 19:53 GMT
#2330
On February 09 2016 04:42 _MexicanAlien wrote:
Shapelog,I just want to say for all I think bad about you, is really hard not to just laugh at your posts (in a good, funny way). Thanks for being so non-boring man. Sorry for any angst coming your way from me.

That is the whole reason why i play mafia, to have fun and solve a game.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
February 08 2016 19:54 GMT
#2331
/ is what you are looking for.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
February 08 2016 19:54 GMT
#2332
>_< : lurk:
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
_MexicanAlien
Profile Joined January 2016
South Africa193 Posts
February 08 2016 19:59 GMT
#2333
I want to vote for PepperMintTea, but I think Hillary Clinton is a better option until PMT gives us her keynote speech on all those hard-hitting issues like abortion and Mafia tactics.
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you criticize him, you're a mile away and you have his shoes.
_MexicanAlien
Profile Joined January 2016
South Africa193 Posts
February 08 2016 20:01 GMT
#2334
That is not the droid you are looking for
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you criticize him, you're a mile away and you have his shoes.
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
February 08 2016 20:03 GMT
#2335
I think we just blame PMT for being bad if she is town and we lose and congrat MA

##Unvote
##Vote: PepperMintTea
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
February 08 2016 20:03 GMT
#2336
On February 09 2016 04:59 _MexicanAlien wrote:
I want to vote for PepperMintTea, but I think Hillary Clinton is a better option until PMT gives us her keynote speech on all those hard-hitting issues like abortion and Mafia tactics.

I heard that voting counts are a big issue in Iowa right now.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
February 09 2016 01:08 GMT
#2337
Hmmm....
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
_MexicanAlien
Profile Joined January 2016
South Africa193 Posts
February 09 2016 03:44 GMT
#2338
I'm just here thinking if PMT is town, scum is incredibly lucky there is such a scummy player when there is only 4 people left.
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you criticize him, you're a mile away and you have his shoes.
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
February 09 2016 07:55 GMT
#2339
Vote count:

PepperMintTea (2): Shapelog, scott31337

No lynch (0): scott31337

Not voting (2): PepperMintTea, _MexicanAlien

Currently, PepperMintTea is set to be lynched.
Deadline is Tuesday, Feb 09 8:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ).
Voting is mandatory!

If there are errors, please let us know.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5185 Posts
February 09 2016 13:04 GMT
#2340
On February 09 2016 12:44 _MexicanAlien wrote:
I'm just here thinking if PMT is town, scum is incredibly lucky there is such a scummy player when there is only 4 people left.

Yeah, idk PMT is either town is busy/unintrested or is scum trying to pull a WIFOM or troll.

Also @scott, she is not bad if she is town. Her D1 was really good regardless of aligment.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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