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AlotSomuch
Profile Joined January 2016
95 Posts
January 15 2016 16:31 GMT
#121
Trifle, I just said I'm not sure what I meant there. I think I attributed someone's else's actual game related post to him.
And yes, as I said, I'm not used to observers posting in a game. We havne't heard from people so I assumed they were on the new playerlist.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 15 2016 16:33 GMT
#122
Apologies. Your post had two sentences, saying two different things. And I misread both of them.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 15 2016 16:35 GMT
#123
AlotSomuch,

Many people have said that my post here is very scummy. But no one has explained why.

Please explain to me why this post is scummy.
AlotSomuch
Profile Joined January 2016
95 Posts
January 15 2016 16:40 GMT
#124
You first say that because I misspelled holeyflairs name, I'm probably town because why would mafia try to antagonize him?
But I was misspelling everyone's name last game as well. Then when Ritokey is mocking Holeyflair's posts about the mods raping him and consent and such, you ignore what you said made me town and said it made Ritokey scum. That bugged me. The "what the fuck is going" on post was about 2 more people /out'ing if I remember right, which is an appropriate response the game seeming to be ending before it started...again.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 15 2016 16:45 GMT
#125
On January 16 2016 01:40 AlotSomuch wrote:
You first say that because I misspelled holeyflairs name, I'm probably town because why would mafia try to antagonize him?
But I was misspelling everyone's name last game as well. Then when Ritokey is mocking Holeyflair's posts about the mods raping him and consent and such, you ignore what you said made me town and said it made Ritokey scum. That bugged me. The "what the fuck is going" on post was about 2 more people /out'ing if I remember right, which is an appropriate response the game seeming to be ending before it started...again.
That read makes sense. Thanks for answering my question.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 15 2016 16:54 GMT
#126
@Trfel
I like Palmar's reason for thinking you're mafia. I agree, if you were really suspicious of ritoky, that would be what the post is about. There should be no reason to call someone else town in that same post, and certainly not BEFORE scumread given that there was a vote in the post. The whole thing just feels disingenuous and contrived.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 15 2016 16:57 GMT
#127
##Vote: Trfel

So let's assume for now that ritoky is never getting lynched today. Let's further assume that you could only kill one of three people, and those three people are the MOST active people in the game so far. Which one would you lynch and why?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 15 2016 17:08 GMT
#128
There's an outside chance that he doesn't actually find ritoky suspicious as town and is just trying to get the thread moving in a productive direction, but who wants to consider town motivations when we're looking for MAFIA?!?!?!?!?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 15 2016 17:17 GMT
#129
On January 16 2016 01:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote: Trfel

So let's assume for now that ritoky is never getting lynched today. Let's further assume that you could only kill one of three people, and those three people are the MOST active people in the game so far. Which one would you lynch and why?
I don't know.

Raynpelikoneet, how confident are you in your scumread of Holyflare?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 15 2016 17:38 GMT
#130
On second thought, maybe it's best to say this now.

Holyflare is mafia

Holyflare's play fits mafia motivation and doesn't have the same drive to solve the game that Holyflare shows as town.

No flow to his scumreads
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 15 2016 09:45 Holyflare wrote:
Well I'm town but now have 0 time so next time pm me that a new game was gonna start before rolling me into it!

ty, gg no re


##vote damdred


^ free mafia
On January 15 2016 16:52 Holyflare wrote:
Well initially I was annoyed and then I didn't like that ritoky and damdred didn't respond to anything meaningfully or even post responses and so I wanted to vote damdred for not even engaging me = mafia.

But then trfel came and posted that post which was ridiculous.

##vote trfel

And I would absolutely write everything i wrote as mafia so anyone even thinking it makes me an alignment is dumb or mafia (trfel).
On January 15 2016 17:29 Holyflare wrote:
Yeh you're 100% mafia then. The first post I was annoyed and then saw no reactions and made it into a plan. Quite evident by my posts and my vote on damdred but you're not even looking into that.

(to raynpelikoneet)
On January 15 2016 17:41 Holyflare wrote:
I mean thinking about it I don't actually dislike trfel all that much anymore. Rayn has easily become top mafioso.

It doesn't feel like Holyflare is interested in finding mafia. He seems to be portraying an attitude that is whatever is best for him at the moment, which feels like more playing to survive instead of genuine emotions.
On January 15 2016 22:48 Holyflare wrote:
Um no rayn you're dumb. I can tell you my plan whenever I feel like it, I don't have to do it in some guidelines that you lay out, especially when I was asleep and it was impossible.

This game is also dumb because artanis confirmed me as town so do what you want with that info. If I was mafia there would be no confusion and it just looks like a mafia rage quit tactic. Now I'm confirmed town.

Deal with it bro. You need to stop living in black and white details because I definitely haven't lied once this game.
This post is a key example of it. Holyflare is scumreading raynpelikoneet, but instead of caring that he caught mafia, he's telling raynpelikoneet why his scumhunting approach as a whole is incorrect.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 15 2016 17:50 GMT
#131
You don't need to make a fake case to lynch me, just lynch me.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 15 2016 18:03 GMT
#132
On January 16 2016 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
You don't need to make a fake case to lynch me, just lynch me.
On a phone, so I can't really get quotes, but...

Holyflare, you said that you were suspicious of ritoky, and then said that my scumread of ritoky was garbage. Why were you suspicious of ritoky, and why was my read garbage?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 15 2016 18:18 GMT
#133
No trfel. Lynch me. There's no reconsidering now, you're committed. If you don't lynch me today and save me for a mislynch later in the game you just become obvious mafia. Take your free opportunity.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
January 15 2016 18:33 GMT
#134
Someone help me?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 15 2016 18:50 GMT
#135
I don't understand what you need help with? You think I'm mafia so you should lynch me.

Just remember there's evidence I'm confirmed town everywhere.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 15 2016 19:02 GMT
#136
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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 15 2016 20:55 GMT
#137
Evening all, catching up.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 15 2016 21:01 GMT
#138
Alright, to start, do not like that Trfel post (#51) at all. Read on ritoky - everything is banter, so how you get disinterest given the timing relative to the start...that's meh at best. Final two questions, you could have just asked to clarify, I know I would if I see someone post "I nothing him". That's not ever proper English.

The argument about addressing Damdred - forget about it, nothing to even be addressed because what Damdred said was truly NAI.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
January 15 2016 21:10 GMT
#139
I'm pretty sure that ASM is mafia too. His post made like 0 sense whatsoever.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
January 15 2016 21:17 GMT
#140
Rayn v Holyflare is looking town on town to me.

the rayn breakdown makes sense, I know he is someone that thinks logically, sometimes a bit linearly, but there's no mafia motivation I can see in his posting. He has nothing to hide. Holyflare could very well be thinking along different lines here. He tried to draw a reaction, it was off an NAI post, but it doesn't exclusively make him mafia.

Trfel's post on lack of emotions, plus the post with six questions does look fairly contrived.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
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