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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 13:38 GMT
#1596
ARE YOU THE HERO THIS TOWN DESERVES ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 13:41 GMT
#1597
Fuck I actually have work to do, Onegu will have to wait. Be back later p:
And comments on my Alot case and Vivax' filter would be awesome
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 16:12 GMT
#1649
On January 21 2016 23:05 Palmar wrote:
I'm just gonna write off disfo as town for effort.

gj!

I've been fooled by his effort before. But he's town in this game because he helped organize picks before the deadline (good town indicator), because he went back to the thread to look if someone has taken Watson when someone told him to take it (small town indicator) and because he was OK picking the doctor, which is a super bad role for scum (strong town indicator).
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 16:15 GMT
#1650
On January 21 2016 23:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 20:52 Rels wrote:
I think GB is town, because I don't think scum would forget to send a pick number during the first phase. And there might be a simple way to check that.
GB claimed to have picked Flowey. Now Flowey is not a super good role, especially for scum. I think being the last pick as scum, GB would actually pick an super good role left unchecked. So we should rolecheck him; if he's not Flowey, he lied and we kill him. EZ


I've never claimed my role and I think it's pretty bad you want to know everybody's role.

I also don't understand why is everybody claiming? The dream flower should never ever claim, that's so fucking dumb.

Wait. What do you refer to with this then, if you didn't take flowey ?
On January 21 2016 13:59 GlowingBear wrote:
I've asked about how do I choose roles because I didn't really know. Palmar helped and I chose one of that list he made


Everybody claiming means everybody can be held accountable for their actions. Why do dreamflower should not claim ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 16:16 GMT
#1651
On January 21 2016 23:19 GlowingBear wrote:
You guys are discussing role and mechanics hoping this will help you find mafia when it helps nothing with the game. 99% of the time town tried to solve the game with mechanics, they lose

Can we stop talking about roles and let people do what they want with what they got and stick to actually playing the game how it is intended?

Did you not see some cases on Alot Vivax and kita just before that post ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 16:18 GMT
#1653
On January 22 2016 00:38 GlowingBear wrote:
Is anyone townreading Sicklucker?

Yep.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 16:24 GMT
#1654
GB I really would like to know why you didn't follow Palmar's plan, and what did you mean saying "I followed Palmar's list"
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 16:36 GMT
#1655
I read Onegu's filter, not much to say. Could lynch. I especially would like to know if he cooperated to the plan.

Onegu when you come back can you explain why you though SL was scum during the number pick phase, and what you think of him now.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 16:38 GMT
#1656
Going home soon, not gonna be super active tonight 'cause I got stuff to do. Make GB answer my question if he dodges it please.

And read this:
On January 21 2016 22:16 Rels wrote:
So. AlotSoMuch is scum.

1. He doesn't care about the game and is just going along. Scum will either do this to not attract attention, or they will try to subtly manipulate town to gain an advantage. Alot is doing the former.
Here is what I'm talking about:
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 20 2016 03:05 AlotSomuch wrote:
I have arrived. Skimmed through everything, tried to take note of non-mechanics discussion and failed for the most part, so no reads at this point, especially considering I know like none of you. Such is life. I put in for number 7 last night when I got my PM, which I think someone said they Might be going for but could go for a different one?

On January 20 2016 03:12 AlotSomuch wrote:
Guess I'll take 11.1 then.

On January 20 2016 09:52 AlotSomuch wrote:
I picked 11.1, just like I said I would.

On January 21 2016 01:02 AlotSomuch wrote:
Let me know what role to pick.
[...]
Just here for role madness fun and to shake off the rust.

On January 21 2016 04:50 AlotSomuch wrote:
I'm fine with Kitaman27.
/approved

On January 21 2016 09:43 AlotSomuch wrote:
I successfully got my assigned role. Going out for happy hour drinks, be back later.

Absolutely no involvement in town's plan. I can understand this for the number picking stuff (just picking the next free number), but he also doesn't care about what role he gets. It's not a role he chose, it an "assigned" role, like he himself call it.


2. He got his number ninja'd by VA, but he doesn't care about it
Here is his reaction:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 09:40 AlotSomuch wrote:
I don't really mind being assigned a role. Apparently Vayne thought I was scummy and knocked me down from number 11 to 16...so...well done Vayne?

Then nothing. No trying to know why VA did it, no trying to see if VA is scum targetting an easy target, or if he's town targetting his scumread.

3. Excuses. Scum love them excuses.
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 03:05 AlotSomuch wrote:
I have arrived. Skimmed through everything, tried to take note of non-mechanics discussion and failed for the most part, so no reads at this point, especially considering I know like none of you. Such is life. I put in for number 7 last night when I got my PM, which I think someone said they Might be going for but could go for a different one?

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 01:02 AlotSomuch wrote:
Let me know what role to pick. I'm at work but have internet access all through the day, just won't be on every minute. I'm not going to be a high volume poster and I have trouble telling alot of you apart right now, as the names just blur together on my readthroughs. I also don't have much experience with multiple mafia teams, especially at such a high ratio, so like someone said, I'm assuming for 1/3 posters is posting with mafia motivation. I admit I don't have much to contribute at this point since I don't have any ideas which people are being difficult for reasons and which are doing it because they are stubborn/really just want to be a certain role.

Just here for role madness fun and to shake off the rust.


4. The famous scum defense
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 12:59 AlotSomuch wrote:
Yes I have not been an active poster, but others have done the same with less content and/or actually been scummy.
[...]
I don't expect a townread on me, but to actually suggest trying to lynch me day1 when I have an investigative role that can be used as directed tonight or later and with there being much shakier people seems odd and suspicious.

I have no comments about the role picking and such, but while I think Kitoman's points about using the extra investigative roles were good, the tone I got off his responses struck me as non-town. Dunno.

WHY AM I BEING SCUMREAD WHEN OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING THE SAME THING
LOOK AT THEM THEY ARE BEING SCUMMY TOO
He doesn't name who he's talking about. Then he says kita might be scum; if kita is scum, it's obviously not for behaving like AlotSomuch.

AlotSoMuch: who are you talking about when you say "others have done the same with less content and/or actually been scummy." ?

##Vote AlotSomuch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 21:41 GMT
#1758
Yo. Catching up.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 21:44 GMT
#1759
On January 22 2016 04:42 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2016 20:36 Rels wrote:
OK caught up. First thing (shamelessly stolen from disfo + completed):

+ Show Spoiler [role list] +

1. Keirathi - house
2. Superbia - CPR doc
3. ObiWanShinobi - Nigella
4. Rels - Captain Malcolm
5. Palmar - arrow
6. geript - link
7. Breshke - holmes
8. Koshi - Werner von braun
9. Cephiro - dreamflower
10. kitaman27 - Dr. Sy N. Tist
11. Vivax - ???
12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???)
13. disformation - Watson
14. Fecalfeast - Moriarty
15. Damdred - doc
16. AlotSomuch - kitaman27
17. VayneAuthority - hero
18. The Shining - TTV
19. Onegu - ???
20. Sicklucker - ???
21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???)
22. GlowingBear - Flowey


Copcake said she was randomed a role so I assume it means she got a mysterious challenger.

If your role was stolen you need to claim it now. If you claim that after D1 we will lynch you first to check.

These person need to claim what role they got:
11. Vivax - ???
12. Tictock - Mysterious challenger (???)
19. Onegu - ???
20. Sicklucker - ???
21. Copcake - Mysterious challenger (???)


Lynch me today if all you care about is what my role is.

That can happen.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 21:47 GMT
#1762
On January 22 2016 05:33 AlotSomuch wrote:
I regularly catch up on the thread between calls at work Copcake. I just have trouble telling you all apart, have no meta to go off of, and am unfamiliar with this kind of setup, so I'm coasting for the most part until role actions start happening, a bunch of people get killed off n1 making the playerlist more manageable, and I can start really playing.

Did you read the while thread ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 21:49 GMT
#1764
On January 22 2016 06:47 sicklucker wrote:
Actually I was thinking of making some plays with my claim by claiming tommy the fireman or something(my original choice)
but If i die or something we would lose this valuable information so ill just hard claim my role now.

Im a mysterious challenged (acualy a nice role I was not lying about that)

I checked Knight Artorias, the Abysswalker he is in play mafia has him

Fucking fuck.
We cannot kill Alot then. Alot checks Artorias and we protect him. kita checks Alot to see if he's really kitaman.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 21:51 GMT
#1767
On January 22 2016 06:50 sicklucker wrote:
wait did i miss something about alot? did he claim it?

Yep he said he picked his assigned role following Palmar's plan, which was kitaman.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 21:53 GMT
#1774
On January 22 2016 06:51 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 06:49 Rels wrote:
On January 22 2016 06:47 sicklucker wrote:
Actually I was thinking of making some plays with my claim by claiming tommy the fireman or something(my original choice)
but If i die or something we would lose this valuable information so ill just hard claim my role now.

Im a mysterious challenged (acualy a nice role I was not lying about that)

I checked Knight Artorias, the Abysswalker he is in play mafia has him

Fucking fuck.
We cannot kill Alot then. Alot checks Artorias and we protect him. kita checks Alot to see if he's really kitaman.


It's extremely likely that either Vivax or TT has the busdriver based on the role claim list. I'd say probably Vivix.

fuck
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 21:54 GMT
#1777
OK. Alot claimed to have kita. We let him use it, if he lies about it we kill him. Simple.
We need to track roleblockers to be sure they're not blocking him if we're doing that, so he cannot lie about that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 21:58 GMT
#1788
On January 22 2016 06:56 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 06:54 Rels wrote:
OK. Alot claimed to have kita. We let him use it, if he lies about it we kill him. Simple.
We need to track roleblockers to be sure they're not blocking him if we're doing that, so he cannot lie about that.


Well I mean mafia has a busdriver so I'm not sure how reliable night checks are going to be when we publicly claim a plan like that.

I don't think kitaman's power is affected by busdrivers.
You're pretty cool p:
If you mean the tracks on roleblockers, OK. but that would mean scums got a roleblocker + arthas + a busdriver. We can kill them easily is that happens to be true I think ? Cannot be too many RB + busdrivers
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 21:59 GMT
#1791
On January 22 2016 06:56 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 06:49 Rels wrote:
On January 22 2016 06:47 sicklucker wrote:
Actually I was thinking of making some plays with my claim by claiming tommy the fireman or something(my original choice)
but If i die or something we would lose this valuable information so ill just hard claim my role now.

Im a mysterious challenged (acualy a nice role I was not lying about that)

I checked Knight Artorias, the Abysswalker he is in play mafia has him

Fucking fuck.
We cannot kill Alot then. Alot checks Artorias and we protect him. kita checks Alot to see if he's really kitaman.


no we dont. IM TELLING YOU HE IS IN THE GAME

we already know art is in the game. why would we waste kitas role on that? We need him to check someone less trustworthy to see who picked off the plan because that person has artorias. Im obviously not going to fake this rofl

kitaman tells who picks the role ...
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 22:06 GMT
#1801
K gonna finish catching up so I have all the info
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
January 21 2016 22:08 GMT
#1802
On January 22 2016 07:06 Keirathi wrote:
There's a small flaw in the plan to figure out who artorius is using the kitaman role: it might not be able to be busdriven, but it can certainly be roleblocked.

If Alot did actually pick kitaman, there are a couple of scenarios:

1) He's town. Someone on one of the mafia teams picked artorias. If they have any way to roleblock him they probably will? I don't think anyone took Yu for the anti-roleblock, right?

2) He's mafia WITH Artorias. He can just claim he was roleblocked forever.

3) He's mafia on the other mafia Team. Probably the best case scenario, becuase it has the lowest chance of being roleblocked, and if it isn't roleblocked he doesn't have any reason to keep the result to himself.

Yep. So let's just say trackers should track roleblockers / watchers should watch alot. No more precision, there cannot be a million busdrivers.
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