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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 13:17 GMT
#953
On January 20 2016 22:17 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote:
Yo real quick before I get back to work:

Gambler is the most hilarious badass role ever that we need to have in the game. Here's the plan:

1. Give gambler to some midling town-lean like kita/obi or maybe keir.
2. We pick a list of 2-3 possible mafia/lurk/bad-town that are not primary lynch candidates for d1 (like Vivax/Alot/Breshke or something, lots to pick from tbh).
3. We will force these 2 or 3 to vote outside of the primary wagons.
4. The entire list is forced to either: a) Play good town (if they're town) or b) Bus their partners (if they're mafia) due to how the role works (if they vote for mafia they live and we know who was mafia after gambler claims their target, or they die).

Hehe p: I like that idea. kita and keir are probably town though, kita for helping with the tier list, and keir for tryharding; neither of which scum wants to do, 'cause they're likely NK now.


Yeah but if they KP gambler other investigative/KP/Prot roles are fine.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 13:19 GMT
#954
On January 20 2016 22:17 Rels wrote:
Superbia what do you think of Breshke ?


Meh. I kind of liked him questioning my question but that's literally all I liked. Prob slight scum-lean.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 13:19 GMT
#955
On January 20 2016 22:17 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 22:17 Rels wrote:
On January 20 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote:
Yo real quick before I get back to work:

Gambler is the most hilarious badass role ever that we need to have in the game. Here's the plan:

1. Give gambler to some midling town-lean like kita/obi or maybe keir.
2. We pick a list of 2-3 possible mafia/lurk/bad-town that are not primary lynch candidates for d1 (like Vivax/Alot/Breshke or something, lots to pick from tbh).
3. We will force these 2 or 3 to vote outside of the primary wagons.
4. The entire list is forced to either: a) Play good town (if they're town) or b) Bus their partners (if they're mafia) due to how the role works (if they vote for mafia they live and we know who was mafia after gambler claims their target, or they die).

Hehe p: I like that idea. kita and keir are probably town though, kita for helping with the tier list, and keir for tryharding; neither of which scum wants to do, 'cause they're likely NK now.


Yeah but if they KP gambler other investigative/KP/Prot roles are fine.


safe*
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 13:20 GMT
#957
On January 20 2016 22:19 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 22:17 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 22:17 Rels wrote:
On January 20 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote:
Yo real quick before I get back to work:

Gambler is the most hilarious badass role ever that we need to have in the game. Here's the plan:

1. Give gambler to some midling town-lean like kita/obi or maybe keir.
2. We pick a list of 2-3 possible mafia/lurk/bad-town that are not primary lynch candidates for d1 (like Vivax/Alot/Breshke or something, lots to pick from tbh).
3. We will force these 2 or 3 to vote outside of the primary wagons.
4. The entire list is forced to either: a) Play good town (if they're town) or b) Bus their partners (if they're mafia) due to how the role works (if they vote for mafia they live and we know who was mafia after gambler claims their target, or they die).

Hehe p: I like that idea. kita and keir are probably town though, kita for helping with the tier list, and keir for tryharding; neither of which scum wants to do, 'cause they're likely NK now.


Yeah but if they KP gambler other investigative/KP/Prot roles are fine.


safe*


safer*
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 13:23 GMT
#961
All right I'm going to get back to work. Everyone read the gambler plan I posted and give some thoughts.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 14:41 GMT
#998
On January 20 2016 23:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Since Dr. Sy N. Tist seems to be flying under the radar I've decided to go with him at 10 so nobody overlap with me please. Tracker that can do other stuff is pretty useful, especially with the mafia kp working the way they do. Thank you kindly :D


Good. You are 100% Spybotting n1 then. This also frames everyone so alignments will be inversed (I believe).

Moreover I'm not sold on giving Breshke the Watson role. There's more than enough bullshit roles that can invert alignments or targets (dr sy n tist being one of them) so blame can always be shifted. Regardless of breshke's actual alignment. Watson needs to be 99% reliable.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 14:41 GMT
#1001
More people need to look at my gambler plan.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 14:44 GMT
#1006
On January 20 2016 23:41 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 23:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Since Dr. Sy N. Tist seems to be flying under the radar I've decided to go with him at 10 so nobody overlap with me please. Tracker that can do other stuff is pretty useful, especially with the mafia kp working the way they do. Thank you kindly :D


Good. You are 100% Spybotting n1 then. This also frames everyone so alignments will be inversed (I believe).

Moreover I'm not sold on giving Breshke the Watson role. There's more than enough bullshit roles that can invert alignments or targets (dr sy n tist being one of them) so blame can always be shifted. Regardless of breshke's actual alignment. Watson needs to be 99% reliable.

Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 14:45 GMT
#1009
On January 20 2016 23:44 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 23:41 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 23:34 kitaman27 wrote:
Since Dr. Sy N. Tist seems to be flying under the radar I've decided to go with him at 10 so nobody overlap with me please. Tracker that can do other stuff is pretty useful, especially with the mafia kp working the way they do. Thank you kindly :D


Good. You are 100% Spybotting n1 then. This also frames everyone so alignments will be inversed (I believe).


yep yep, I'll also claim during the night if I do choose to frame and then I'll show up on any watchers and stuff (I'm assuming I visit every player) to confirm no tomfoolery.


I don't think it's a choice. It's part of the action. You'll frame everyone.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 14:46 GMT
#1011
On January 20 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote:
Yo real quick before I get back to work:

Gambler is the most hilarious badass role ever that we need to have in the game. Here's the plan:

1. Give gambler to some midling town-lean like kita/obi or maybe keir.
2. We pick a list of 2-3 possible mafia/lurk/bad-town that are not primary lynch candidates for d1 (like Vivax/Alot/Breshke or something, lots to pick from tbh).
2.5) Gambler RNGs a target within this list.
3. We will force these 2 or 3 to vote outside of the primary wagons.
4. The entire list is forced to either: a) Play good town (if they're town) or b) Bus their partners (if they're mafia) due to how the role works (if they vote for mafia they live and we know who was mafia after gambler claims their target, or they die).

Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 14:49 GMT
#1014
I'm also probably picking the CPR doc.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 14:51 GMT
#1016
Oh yeah, we also should probably get Nigella Lawson, since she has a watch ability (I'm assuming). Watch is absurd.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 14:53 GMT
#1018
On January 20 2016 23:51 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2016 23:46 Superbia wrote:
On January 20 2016 22:09 Superbia wrote:
Yo real quick before I get back to work:

Gambler is the most hilarious badass role ever that we need to have in the game. Here's the plan:

1. Give gambler to some midling town-lean like kita/obi or maybe keir.
2. We pick a list of 2-3 possible mafia/lurk/bad-town that are not primary lynch candidates for d1 (like Vivax/Alot/Breshke or something, lots to pick from tbh).
2.5) Gambler RNGs a target within this list.
3. We will force these 2 or 3 to vote outside of the primary wagons.
4. The entire list is forced to either: a) Play good town (if they're town) or b) Bus their partners (if they're mafia) due to how the role works (if they vote for mafia they live and we know who was mafia after gambler claims their target, or they die).



This seems solid. For number three, I think it is important that we tell them exactly who to pick. If we leave it up to them then they can pick a townie of their choice to kill and try to justify it. Since those 2-3 players don't know if they were actually targeted, they can't move their vote off a mafia at end of day if they know they're caught.

Another option we have is to force the strongest scum suspect to be the gambler. If town feels that the gambler is still mafia by the end of day one, we force the gambler target to vote for the gambler, killing them both. Otherwise, we pick the target for the gambler voter. If either player refuses to follow through, we policy lynch since the final vote count will show the +0 and +2. I think I kinda like my version better. Thoughts?


I actually love your version. That's even better. It also leaves the roles open of townie-esque people to pick more powerful stuff. 100% on board.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 14:54 GMT
#1019
We haven't even lynched mafia and I already feel like we're winning rofl.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 14:58 GMT
#1022
All right I'm off for now. Everyone check Kita's post for gambler plan v2.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 18:16 GMT
#1075
Palmar can you take a look at the Gambler plan I proposed and Kita's version as well?
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 18:19 GMT
#1077
Also think VA's attack on SL makes him pretty scum. Still calling VA+Alot team.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 18:20 GMT
#1078
Link or House for Keir may be good.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 18:21 GMT
#1079
Sec.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
January 20 2016 18:37 GMT
#1085
Hijacking Palmar's old post to include my personal thoughts/opinion.

On January 20 2016 10:10 Palmar wrote:
1. Keirathi - Protective or investigative.
2. Superbia - CPRDoc
3. ObiWanShinobi - Investigative
4. Rels - Investigative or KP.
5. Palmar - Investigative or protective.
6. geript - Hardest time deciding tbh. I think investigative.
7. Breshke - Straight up protective, Doctor would be great.
8. Koshi - Protective or investigative. No shennanie weird role. Straight up something like Kitaman27 to check for a scummy role.
9. Cephiro - One of my primary lynch atm so don't really want to waste dreamflower.
10. kitaman27 - Don't mind him picking dr. sy n. tist as long as he always uses his spybot d1. No excuses/questions.
11. Vivax - prime dreamflower target else something that absolutely cannot hurt town.
12. Tictock - Gambler targeting 11/15/16/17/18/19/22 (and who is not dreamflower).
13. disformation - prot mayb investigative
14. Fecalfeast - prot
15. Damdred - prot
16. AlotSomuch - One of my primary lynch atm so don't really want to waste dreamflower.
17. VayneAuthority - One of my primary lynch atm so don't really want to waste dreamflower.
18. The Shining - check/maybe dreamflower
19. Onegu - check/maybe prot
20. Sicklucker - Investigative.
21. Copcake - check/maybe prot
22. GlowingBear - prot/maybe dreamflower


Meh. I'm confident in assigning maybe 6-7 hard roles to specific players. Rest idk.
Minimal effort.
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