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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 11:17 GMT
#310
I consider myself answered reasonably unless Palmar wants to explain why does my read on ritoky, regardless of if i am right or wrong, make me mafia. "wrong reasons" is not a reasonable answer.

Again, the argument about Xatalos post is just bullshit and i don't care how he is going to try to push it.

The argument about me thinking he is mafia is also bullshit since this is one of the two ways Palmar approaches me when he is scum. He makes it 1v1 and i am willing to take the challenge. I don't care if i get lynched. If i do, i will make sure the last hours of D1 is me finding every single bit of proof and explaining myself as clearly as possible why he is scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 11:18 GMT
#312
Really Xatalos?
On January 14 2016 18:37 Xatalos wrote:
I guess so...

VE: I also didn't really like the things ritoky was pushing. It was just the way he posted that made me think he could be town after all. He was so bold and didn't really seem to care what others thought of him. Fits better with a town mindset.

This is basically the same thing i said except you used different words...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 11:19 GMT
#313
On January 14 2016 20:17 Palmar wrote:
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On January 14 2016 20:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I consider myself answered reasonably unless Palmar wants to explain why does my read on ritoky, regardless of if i am right or wrong, make me mafia. "wrong reasons" is not a reasonable answer.

Again, the argument about Xatalos post is just bullshit and i don't care how he is going to try to push it.

The argument about me thinking he is mafia is also bullshit since this is one of the two ways Palmar approaches me when he is scum. He makes it 1v1 and i am willing to take the challenge. I don't care if i get lynched. If i do, i will make sure the last hours of D1 is me finding every single bit of proof and explaining myself as clearly as possible why he is scum.

I have never engaged you 1v1 as mafia.

If i prove this to be incorrect do you agree you are scum?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 11:21 GMT
#316
On January 14 2016 20:19 Palmar wrote:
In fact, last game I was mafia with you I pocketed the hell out of you until I could shoot you:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494010-completely-normal-generic-mini-mafia

This is, yet again, you just making up things as we go.

I know that very well, are you again not reading very well?
On January 14 2016 20:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The argument about me thinking he is mafia is also bullshit since this is one of the two ways Palmar approaches me when he is scum. He makes it 1v1 and i am willing to take the challenge. I don't care if i get lynched. If i do, i will make sure the last hours of D1 is me finding every single bit of proof and explaining myself as clearly as possible why he is scum.

tsk tsk...

I repeat my question, if i prove you have 1v1'd me as scum do you agree you are scum?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 11:26 GMT
#319
Here is one game:
Thug Life

Another game is the big game that started after XXX which for some reason is not in the database, where you attacked me straight up from the start of the game (we were even BOTH fucking mafia and i told you in scum QT there is nothing wrong with what i said).

In both situations you failed to read the ACTUAL motivation behind my posts, and think behind the words.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 11:36 GMT
#321
In both situations you failed to read the ACTUAL motivation behind my posts, and think behind the words.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 11:38 GMT
#322
But it doesn't matter, i don't need to argue about this until the EoD1.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 11:40 GMT
#323
The only thing i am going to say is that Thug life game is pretty much the same as here. Where you take certain posts of mine out of the context and/or invent a conclusion and then start putting things into place so they fit. FYI it's one of the best cases i have ever made in that game, because it actually showed a complete lack of critical thinking from you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 11:46 GMT
#324
On January 14 2016 19:23 ritoky wrote:
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On January 14 2016 19:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 14 2016 19:10 ritoky wrote:
On January 14 2016 19:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 14 2016 19:07 ritoky wrote:
nearly 8 months and i think i can count the number of times my kid has slept silently through an entire night on 2 hands....fml

It gets better I promise.


probably gonna be a bit, wife wants a 2nd in the near future; and believe it or not "i want a good night's sleep" doesn't convince her to the contrary.

+ Show Spoiler +
Good luck with that. Try the "worldwide overpopulation" argument, and if/when that fails try the "the world is a dark and depraved place and you don't want to bring another child here" argument. If both fail then your wife has no soul and you're doomed to have more babies.

Can you explain in further detail your read on Trfel?


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On January 14 2016 19:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 14 2016 19:12 ritoky wrote:
rayn you wanted the associative shit explained right?

not really.
I'd rather see you reconsider your read on Trfel based on what i said about his meta, since that's what your scumread on him is based on.


pretty much this is the read: i was mafia with trfel and town when he was mafia both recently. both times he came into the thread hot and focused on 1 particular issue in particular and got town reads because of it. in the most recent game where he was town he was much more mild and weak immediately upon entry. so from just that recent play perspective he is currently more mafia sided.

the other reason i made the read is i basically made some bullshit read on him last game that misrepresented a lot of his play and was just a load of turd. he corrected me saying his meta as mafia is far more aggro particularly early, he came in immediately somewhat aggro so i wanted to call him mafia and see how he carries it as opposed to last game where i bs'd him.

So do you still agree with your earlier read?
Did you even look at my post where i disagree with you?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 11:50 GMT
#326
On January 14 2016 20:48 Palmar wrote:
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On January 14 2016 20:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The only thing i am going to say is that Thug life game is pretty much the same as here. Where you take certain posts of mine out of the context and/or invent a conclusion and then start putting things into place so they fit. FYI it's one of the best cases i have ever made in that game, because it actually showed a complete lack of critical thinking from you.

nice narrative scum

It's only a "narrative" if i can't prove it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 11:51 GMT
#328
Just humor me a moment Palmar. Where did VE agree with you?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 11:52 GMT
#329
Rayn often makes completely insane cases on people (see XXX for example) when he's mafia.

I also want an example of this.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 12:01 GMT
#331

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On January 14 2016 19:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Then you have your Xatalos post misrepresentation shit. That doesn't make any sense at all since first of all you didn't even read my further elaboration on it. When people pointed out you are actually approaching the situation with false premises, instead of taking this into account and re-thinking your stance on the original accusation -- you make a stretch on saying "well you did that first, now you are just covering up when it didn't fly" which is literally just bull-fucking-shit.
IT is pretty fucking clear that's NOT what i did, nor is it anything i would EVER do.



This is not true, I was very clear from the beginning what I was saying, which is why VE immediately understood and actually compounded my arguments.

Then what do you mean by this?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 12:10 GMT
#332
+ Show Spoiler +
To be perfectly honest Palmar, i love to argue with you especially when i am almost definitely sure you are scum! So bring it on! Let's do the dance <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 12:39 GMT
#334
I don't think Alot's posts make him anything yet. I need more posts from him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 12:45 GMT
#336
I have absolutely no idea where Xatalos stands on anything...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 13:34 GMT
#340
On January 14 2016 18:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2016 18:44 Xatalos wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
On January 14 2016 18:37 Xatalos wrote:
I guess so...

VE: I also didn't really like the things ritoky was pushing. It was just the way he posted that made me think he could be town after all. He was so bold and didn't really seem to care what others thought of him. Fits better with a town mindset.

This describes ritoky as either alignment as far as I'm aware.


Really? Hm...

I mean, have you ever read a game where ritoky gives a shit what anyone thinks?

Xatalos did you agree with this or not?
If you didn't, why aren't you investigating into this further?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 13:39 GMT
#342
I would rather hear why there isn't Cephiro or Holyflare on your list at all, especially since marv is there?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 13:48 GMT
#351
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43269 Posts
January 14 2016 13:50 GMT
#354
Well don't worry. I'll prove my case later. I am gonna see people's stances on it first.
I am not in a rush and Plammer is not the only scum in the game.
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